No one is even talking about Trump calling and congratulating a murderer.

[PixieStix]

Good stuff right here

 

[ABikerSailor]

Confuse situations much? Obama said he would have more flexibility just before the election back in 2012, and he more than likely said that because the Russian diplomat asked him about something that would take several months to accomplish, and Obama couldn't commit to anything because he didn't know if he was going to win or not. I got news for you, negotiations between countries takes time.

And, as far as the diplomats being kicked out? That was 4 years later in 2016, and Obama kicked them out because he had information that Russia was messing with our elections.

Obama said he would have more flexibility just before the election back in 2012,

That was 4 years later in 2016, and Obama kicked them out because he had information that Russia was messing with our elections.

thank you for making my point

The only "point" you have is the one at the top of your skull. Those are two separate incidents that took place over 4 years apart. They are not related, except in your own little fevered mind.

Those are two separate incidents that took place over 4 years apart.

and, somehow, you believe them to be unrelated?


(Perhaps the point s at the top of your skull)

Yeah the two are unrelated. One was favorable to Russia (2012) when Obama said that he would talk to them after the election.

The other one was NOT favorable to Russia, as 45 of their diplomats were kicked out of the country and they lost their little compound here in the States.

Go ahead................tell me how they are related.

hmmm....

being more flexible, if reelected, was in Russia favor

How did kicking out the diplomats affect Obamas reelection?

How did kicking out the diplomats affect Obama's reelection? Quick answer, it didn't. Obama kicked them out of the country at the end of his second (and last) term. In other words, he wasn't up for reelection after he kicked out the Russians.

Try again.

 

[Auld Phart]

thank you for making my point

The only "point" you have is the one at the top of your skull. Those are two separate incidents that took place over 4 years apart. They are not related, except in your own little fevered mind.

Those are two separate incidents that took place over 4 years apart.

and, somehow, you believe them to be unrelated?


(Perhaps the point s at the top of your skull)

Yeah the two are unrelated. One was favorable to Russia (2012) when Obama said that he would talk to them after the election.

The other one was NOT favorable to Russia, as 45 of their diplomats were kicked out of the country and they lost their little compound here in the States.

Go ahead................tell me how they are related.

hmmm....

being more flexible, if reelected, was in Russia favor

How did kicking out the diplomats affect Obamas reelection?

How did kicking out the diplomats affect Obama's reelection? Quick answer, it didn't. Obama kicked them out of the country at the end of his second (and last) term. In other words, he wasn't up for reelection after he kicked out the Russians.

Try again.

Dont' need to, you just made my point.

Obama was NOT up for reelection.

Unlike when he promised more flexibility.

(keep going, you're getting close to seeing the light)

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

thank you for making my point

The only "point" you have is the one at the top of your skull. Those are two separate incidents that took place over 4 years apart. They are not related, except in your own little fevered mind.

Those are two separate incidents that took place over 4 years apart.

and, somehow, you believe them to be unrelated?


(Perhaps the point s at the top of your skull)

Yeah the two are unrelated. One was favorable to Russia (2012) when Obama said that he would talk to them after the election.

The other one was NOT favorable to Russia, as 45 of their diplomats were kicked out of the country and they lost their little compound here in the States.

Go ahead................tell me how they are related.

hmmm....

being more flexible, if reelected, was in Russia favor

How did kicking out the diplomats affect Obamas reelection?

How did kicking out the diplomats affect Obama's reelection? Quick answer, it didn't. Obama kicked them out of the country at the end of his second (and last) term. In other words, he wasn't up for reelection after he kicked out the Russians.

Try again.

Didn't Obama go meet with a murderous Cuban regime responsible for 30,000 - 40,000 murders of its own citizens?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is Hillary gonna send back the $145 million Putin sent her?

So that's a no?

It's a - DIDN'T HAPPEN

Really? No Russian money in the Clinton "Foundation"?

 

[TheParser]

As a moderate, I can see the validity of both sides.

*****

1. Presidents usually congratulate the winner of foreign elections.

a. As many posters have pointed out, President Obama congratulated President Putin on one of his many reelections.
b. Officially, at least, the United States and Russia are still "friends." (We are NOT "friends" with Cuba, Venezuela, etc.)

2. As other posters pointed out, this time things were different: the United States has indicted several Russian officials for allegedly interfering in the 2016 election, and our friend the United Kingdom claims that Russian agents are responsible for poisoning people on British soil.

a. I voted for President Trump and think that he's doing a very good job.

b. Personally, I wish that he had NOT congratulated President Putin under the circumstances. Silence on the part of President Trump would have been appropriate.

 

[Harry Dresden]

putin was the same type of guy back then as he is now.....yea i was shocked too....

Not really - he's become WAY worse in terms of election meddling and the murder and imprisonment of political opponents.

And Trump the Enabler is responsible for this behavior.

sure he has....the guy was the head of the FSS for christ sakes....yea he was a nice guy back then...

 

[DrLove]

Is Hillary gonna send back the $145 million Putin sent her?

So that's a no?

It's a - DIDN'T HAPPEN

Really? No Russian money in the Clinton "Foundation"?

Bubba was paid to give a speech - that's it so don't go all U-1 on us if you please.

Assessment: Yes, the foundation received money and Bill Clinton was paid to give a speech, but there’s no evidence the Clintons were paid by Russians to push through the uranium deal.

Fact check: No, the Clintons were not paid millions by Russia

 

[Care4all]

I wish we knew what Putin has over Trump....whatever the stranglehold is, President Trump really really really does not want us to know about....

Never in my life have I seen any grown man kiss the butt of another man in public for all to see, including children as I have seen with Trump and his groveling before Putin!

The only person benefitting from Trump's ass kissing, is Putin.

Putin and Russia become STRONGER with every weak move, and submission to Putin with every single action he takes...

can you spell

KOMPROMAT

President Trump needs to suck it up and leak the compromising information the Russians have on him.....so the Russians can no longer have this Kompromat hanging over him, and his presidency, which affects our entire nation's safety and stature as a strength in the world.... Putin is running over trump and our Nation and it has to stop!

 

[airplanemechanic]

Is Hillary gonna send back the $145 million Putin sent her?

Is your google broken?

FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow

Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

Yet again, accusations of Trump Russia collusion and yet the collusion with with Clinton and Obama himself.

 

[Mac1958]

BREAKING!: Trump just had the audacity to do what every president before him did. Details at 10, along with a new supply of pacifiers.

The fake outrage machine is very well-oiled.

Here's what I wonder: There can't be many people who knew about the all-caps thing. Seems like there's at least person very near him who wants to see him fry.
.

 

[Rambunctious]

Did Putin meddle in either of Obama's elections?

Thought not

According to the NSA and the CIA he did and he was also accused of murder in 2011....kind of blows your whole line doesn't it?...do your homework before you post dummy....

 

[DrLove]

Is Hillary gonna send back the $145 million Putin sent her?

Is your google broken?

FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow

Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

Yet again, accusations of Trump Russia collusion and yet the collusion with with Clinton and Obama himself.

NO uranium went to Russia - please stop with your 2010 stupidity.

FACT CHECK: Hillary Clinton Gave 20 Percent of United States' Uranium to Russia in Exchange for Clinton Foundation Donations?

 

[DrLove]

Did Putin meddle in either of Obama's elections?

Thought not

According to the NSA and the CIA he did and he was also accused of murder in 2011....kind of blows your whole line doesn't it?...do your homework before you post dummy....

NO ----> Dumber Dummy

 

[xyz]

 

[Rocko]

You know, when Putin won last time, he actually had someone run against him when he won.

This time? One competitor was killed, and the other one was banned from participating in the election, which means that Putin basically ran unopposed, which is how dictators all over the world end up running their elections.

Trump congratulating Putin on his "win" legitimized his election.

And then, there is also the fact that Putin had poisoned an expatriate and his daughter a week before the election with some nerve agent that is only made in Russia, and the Russians are the only ones who have it. The attack happened on British soil, and Britain is one of our strongest and closest allies, yet Trump didn't mention anything about it to Putin. In addition to being told to NOT congratulate Putin on his election win, he was also told that he needed to chastise Putin for the attack in Britain, but Trump never did.

Pootin just didn’t become a thug recently...

 

[airplanemechanic]

Is Hillary gonna send back the $145 million Putin sent her?

Is your google broken?

FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow

Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

Yet again, accusations of Trump Russia collusion and yet the collusion with with Clinton and Obama himself.

NO uranium went to Russia - please stop with your 2010 stupidity.

FACT CHECK: Hillary Clinton Gave 20 Percent of United States' Uranium to Russia in Exchange for Clinton Foundation Donations?

And that's not what the link was even about you fucking liberal dipshit. Read the first fucking sentence you fucking idiot:

Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium

That would mean BEFORE. Meaning....IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

I highlighted where MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WERE FUNNELED DIRECTLY TO HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON FROM RUSSIA.

And on top of that, it says CONTROL of our uranium, which IS TRUE. No, we never shipped it to them via FedEx, but they were given CONTROL of it. Our NUCLEAR ENEMY was given control of 20% of our uranium by the same people alluding to collusion between Russia and Trump.

If it wouldn't be so fucking serious it would be funny. So there is your fucking link. That's probably why people ignore you on this forum. You play pussy games, demanding "links" then when they are provided, you wiggle and worm your away around ignoring what it actually says and taking the goalposts to the other end of the field.

Liberal dipshit would be a nice way to describe you.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is Hillary gonna send back the $145 million Putin sent her?

So that's a no?

It's a - DIDN'T HAPPEN

Really? No Russian money in the Clinton "Foundation"?

Bubba was paid to give a speech - that's it so don't go all U-1 on us if you please.

Assessment: Yes, the foundation received money and Bill Clinton was paid to give a speech, but there’s no evidence the Clintons were paid by Russians to push through the uranium deal.

Fact check: No, the Clintons were not paid millions by Russia

All told, $145 million went to the Clinton Foundation from those linked to Uranium One and UrAsia, but it went to the charity organization and not the Clinton family.

Hillary going to return this filthy Russian money?

 

[airplanemechanic]

Of course not, it would require her to admit she has it first.

 

[DrLove]

So that's a no?

It's a - DIDN'T HAPPEN

Really? No Russian money in the Clinton "Foundation"?

Bubba was paid to give a speech - that's it so don't go all U-1 on us if you please.

Assessment: Yes, the foundation received money and Bill Clinton was paid to give a speech, but there’s no evidence the Clintons were paid by Russians to push through the uranium deal.

Fact check: No, the Clintons were not paid millions by Russia

All told, $145 million went to the Clinton Foundation from those linked to Uranium One and UrAsia, but it went to the charity organization and not the Clinton family.

Hillary going to return this filthy Russian money?

FAKE NEWS ^ ^ ^ Bla La

Do enjoy the highly awkward soft shoe however!