No Intellectuals allowed!!!!

As I said, people don't get to be President if they're unintelligent. Well not lately anyway.

Hands up, all the people here at USMB who think Obama isn't intelligent and who also graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law.

Anyone? Anyone?

Obama worked at the law firm Sidley & Austin. You don't work there being unintelligent.

I don't know... wouldn't it be nice to be able to READ some of what obama wrote in college? Or maybe see his college transcripts. Too bad we won't if he has his way though. He's had all that hidden, along with his birth certificate. Wonder why... :eusa_eh:

For one thing, when the man can't even say "good morning" without the rabid dogs picking that apart, why on earth would he be eager to produce his college papers? He is, after all, rather busy and must get a little sick of constantly having to defend himself against you assholes whose entire life is dedicated to bringing him down, no matter what.
 
Be one of several dozen 4.0's and the only one who happens to be part black and do it in a department in which grading tends to be more subjective than objective and rewards parroting your profs answers back to him rather than any actual critical thinking on your part. Which by the way would describe most poly sci classes history classes and under graduate law classes these days.

Oh and for what it's worth in Amerca these days all too frequently one's opinion of another's intellectual capabilities is often formed not upon any actual testable standards but upon how closely their opinions mirror one's own.

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Not really not these days. You need should read more of Dinesh D'Souza.

Thanks.

I did a search and there are some great debates between D'Souza and Hitchens over "mysticism". I'm still watching them.

Funny that they try to use the same argument, but it succeeds for one and not the other.

Hichens points out that religious violence is motivated by "religion" and even refers to 9/11 as a "faith based initiative".

S'Souza fails to make the same case with atheism. Now, if atheism were a religion, then such a case could certainly be made, however, there is no connection between those that have a lack of mystical beliefs. There is nothing to connect. The argument is like, "the lack of evidence is proof".

Now, I certainly don't agree with Hitchens on many levels. For one, I think invading Iraq was an enormous disaster, a view shared by Pat Buchanan, a man we know has mystical beliefs. However, Hitchens believes it was a very good thing. Go figure.
 
D'Souza makes the argument - and I agree with him - that Affirmative Action can hinder minorities because standards are lowered for minorities to enter University, but once in University, standards of intellectual rigor are not. Thus, many minorities do poorly or drop out.

This, of course, destroys the argument that Obama was not cut out for Harvard Law, having graduated top of his class.
 
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D'Souza makes the argument - and I agree with him - that Affirmative Action can hinder minorities because standards are lowered for minorities to enter University, but once in University, standards of intellectual rigor are not. Thus, many minorities do poorly or drop out.

This, of course, destroys the argument that Obama was not cut out for Harvard Law, having graduated top of his class.

I couldn't find any evidence that Obama received Affirmative Action. Not saying he didn't, just couldn't find proof that he did.

Also, for the Harvard Law review, papers are submitted and chosen by panel. No names are attached so they don't even know if it were written by a man or woman.

Clarence Thomas and Sonya Sotomayor both benefited from Affirmative Action.

Both George Bush and John McCain benefited from Affirmative Action. Neither had grades good enough to get into Harvard or the Naval Academy. In both cases, Daddy called in favors and the "boys" were jumped over thousands more qualified. Bush graduated with a below average GPA and McCain 5th from the bottom out of 899 cadets. It wouldn't surprise me if Daddy had to call several times to keep the "kids" in those institutions, especially for McCain. 5th from the bottom out of 899? That's like in the top 99.55percentile. Another example of Republican excellence. And they question Obama? Seriously? Ha ha ha ha ho ho ho tee hee.
 
I couldn't find any evidence that Obama received Affirmative Action. Not saying he didn't, just couldn't find proof that he did.

Yeah, I don't know if he did either, but that's the argument that is being made.

And even if you accept that Obama got into Harvard Law because of affirmative action, he didn't rank at the top of his class because of it.
 
Yes jillian we believe you -not.

I have no idea what your definition of intelligence could possibly be? I am guessing you think George Bush and Sarah Palin are intelligent.

There are valid criticisms of Obama. To say he is not intelligent is not one of them.

To make the argument shows you to be ignorant.
 
I couldn't find any evidence that Obama received Affirmative Action. Not saying he didn't, just couldn't find proof that he did.

Yeah, I don't know if he did either, but that's the argument that is being made.

And even if you accept that Obama got into Harvard Law because of affirmative action, he didn't rank at the top of his class because of it.

When people keep bringing up Affirmative Action and Obama, they are desperately trying to make a connection.

Obama graduated "magna cum laude". More than half his class graduated "cum laude", but when you graduate "magna cum laude", it means that you are very near the top of your class.

I haven't seen any evidence that he was "at the top", but the evidence exists that he was very near the top.
 
Hands up, all the people here at USMB who think Obama isn't intelligent and who also graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law.

Anyone? Anyone?

Obama worked at the law firm Sidley & Austin. You don't work there being unintelligent.

No, just cannibalistic.

Republicans don't respect "achievement", only ideology.

Very interesting, I make a quip about lawyers and law firms and suddenly it's: "Republicans don't respect achievement, only ideology." Kinda reminds you of an comment an ideologue would make. Nah, not kinda, spot on.
 
No, just cannibalistic.

Republicans don't respect "achievement", only ideology.

Very interesting, I make a quip about lawyers and law firms and suddenly it's: "Republicans don't respect achievement, only ideology." Kinda reminds you of an comment an ideologue would make. Nah, not kinda, spot on.

Unless someone was responding to "cannibalistic"? Would that make a difference?
 
Okay for every true intellectual such as William Buckley, there are a least 100 pseudo intellectuals, aka pretenders or wannabes. The left is dominated by such idiots. The Urban dictionary's definitions of intellectuals is actually far more suited to pdeudo intellectuals from top to bottom.

Gary D, there is no doubt that you are a pseudo intellectual.

You try very hard to appear intelligent. In your effort to appear intelligent you come across as a pseudo intellect at best.
 
For one thing, when the man can't even say "good morning" without the rabid dogs picking that apart, why on earth would he be eager to produce his college papers? He is, after all, rather busy and must get a little sick of constantly having to defend himself against you assholes whose entire life is dedicated to bringing him down, no matter what.

Yeah, You pukes got an excuse for hiding everything. And you finally have got something right Maggie, We are dedicated to bringing him down. For atleast the next 3 1/2 years anyway. He will go down too. Even a number of nutcases who voted for this International Socialist lying fraud are starting to wake up. :eusa_shhh:~BH
 
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"Boi"? lol. My, you are the perceptive one, aren'tcha?

Why do you ask? Is there some clue in your leaden writing style that tips off your gender? :cuckoo:

You truly aren't very bright.

A little advice. If you have the odd desire to attempt gender-based insults online when you don't know someone's gender, then at least do a google search on the user name or something. Better yet, just avoid gender based insults, since the whole "boi" and "man-love" thing would have been dinkish even I were a guy.

Very ironic that you're trying to blame me for you being a dink, though. :lol:
 
One makes magna cum laude because of Affirmative Action? I thought that Affirmative Action got you in the door. Where you ranked in your class was a different matter, is it not?

Rank? People are given Lofty positions in the Liberal Statist world all the time for "White Guilt", that the Liberals cling to, no matter thei performance. We see it all the time in Government positions, and when Government awards contracts...

And while we're on the subject/ Why did Obama's campaign back in 2008, REFUSE to allow release of his College courses, grades, papers when requested by certain media groups?

I don't consider your comments valid. Obama's performance to date is telling as to why those records we'ren't released, and in some cases missing.

Why don't you fringers stick with "proving" Obama wasn't born in the U.S. before you go on to his formative years spent in college? We keep waiting for the revelations. :lol:

And you assume that i am a "BIRTHER", by your comments?

How can this be? Do you take such LARGE leaps in real life? For if you do? I want to be NO WHERE NEAR your sorry ass.
 
Republicans don't respect "achievement", only ideology.

Very interesting, I make a quip about lawyers and law firms and suddenly it's: "Republicans don't respect achievement, only ideology." Kinda reminds you of an comment an ideologue would make. Nah, not kinda, spot on.

Unless someone was responding to "cannibalistic"? Would that make a difference?

If you want to take it out of context, sure. Of course "cannibalistic", in this usage is a relative term. Humor or descriptive, humor or descriptive, uuuummmmm....... Choices, choices.
 
Very interesting, I make a quip about lawyers and law firms and suddenly it's: "Republicans don't respect achievement, only ideology." Kinda reminds you of an comment an ideologue would make. Nah, not kinda, spot on.

Unless someone was responding to "cannibalistic"? Would that make a difference?

If you want to take it out of context, sure. Of course "cannibalistic", in this usage is a relative term. Humor or descriptive, humor or descriptive, uuuummmmm....... Choices, choices.

I got it.

I used to make fun of lawyers back in the day. But then I entered the world of professional financial services and realized I had no right whatsoever to make fun of anyone else's profession. You can say what you want about the lawyers but at least they didn't bring the world to the brink of collapse.
 
Be one of several dozen 4.0's and the only one who happens to be part black and do it in a department in which grading tends to be more subjective than objective and rewards parroting your profs answers back to him rather than any actual critical thinking on your part. Which by the way would describe most poly sci classes history classes and under graduate law classes these days.

Oh and for what it's worth in Amerca these days all too frequently one's opinion of another's intellectual capabilities is often formed not upon any actual testable standards but upon how closely their opinions mirror one's own.

More subject than objective grading. Evidence?

Critical thinking not encouraged. Evidence?

Most undergrad classes these days. Evidence?

Testable standards? How are students evaluated these days?
 
For one thing, when the man can't even say "good morning" without the rabid dogs picking that apart, why on earth would he be eager to produce his college papers? He is, after all, rather busy and must get a little sick of constantly having to defend himself against you assholes whose entire life is dedicated to bringing him down, no matter what.

Yeah, You pukes got an excuse for hiding everything. And you finally have got something right Maggie, We are dedicated to bringing him down. For atleast the next 3 1/2 years anyway. He will go down too. Even a number of nutcases who voted for this International Socialist lying fraud are starting to wake up. :eusa_shhh:~BH

The Swiftboaters are coming for Obama :lol:
 

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