New Zealand: First They Took Their Guns.....Now They're Removing Jesus From Their Lives

[idb]

no compromise from me even if I had the power . The name Jesus is Traditional , feck 'allah' . I prefer the example of what YOU leftys have done to remain visible . [I can't stand compromise as a general rule as it is weakness IBD] Maybe one or many of your 'new zealanders' will grow some Guts and get to work IBD .

Compromise is weakness?
You get your own way in everything everyday PIMSOE?
You sound like a sulky toddler.

 

[idb]

no compromise from me even if I had the power . The name Jesus is Traditional , feck 'allah' . I prefer the example of what YOU leftys have done to remain visible . [I can't stand compromise as a general rule as it is weakness IBD] Maybe one or many of your 'new zealanders' will grow some Guts and get to work IBD .

You can say 'Jesus' as often and as loud as you want in New Zealand.
Neat, huh?

 

[pismoe]

no compromise from me even if I had the power . The name Jesus is Traditional , feck 'allah' . I prefer the example of what YOU leftys have done to remain visible . [I can't stand compromise as a general rule as it is weakness IBD] Maybe one or many of your 'new zealanders' will grow some Guts and get to work IBD .

 

[Correll]

But Christians do. And they have the right to publicly celebrate their faith and heritage.

Not through tax payer funded government.

Is the government supporting other cultures and faiths and heritages with tax money?

 

[Correll]

Purging Christian references while celebrating Islam, is religious discrimination.

I love the sight of snowflakes melting in the sun.

Pointing out real discrimination is not "melting".


Words have real meanings, and the way you are stringing yours together, does not make sense.


That you feel you have to lie, should tell you something....


But it won't. Because otherwise, you would not be a liberal in the first place.

 

[Correll]

Is the purging of any Christian references from the public prayer per the OP, a singular event, that will never be repeated or built upon?

Are there other Christian references we can purge? Woo hoo!

DO you believe that your ridicule will trick people into not seeing that you will be looking to purge more Christianity/Christians as I said?

 

[mudwhistle]

no compromise from me even if I had the power . The name Jesus is Traditional , feck 'allah' . I prefer the example of what YOU leftys have done to remain visible . [I can't stand compromise as a general rule as it is weakness IBD] Maybe one or many of your 'new zealanders' will grow some Guts and get to work IBD .

You can say 'Jesus' as often and as loud as you want in New Zealand.
Neat, huh?

Yeah....you just can't do it in public in a government building now.
But the Muslims can throw out their prayer rugs anywhere, hold up traffic, shut down airports, you name it.
But to you this is "DIVERSITY".

You're such a con artist......and not even an effective one.

 

[Correll]

But Christians do. And they have the right to publicly celebrate their faith and heritage.


Why are you offended by that? Why do you oppose that?

You realise that they still have that right...don't you?

Is the purging of any Christian references from the public prayer per the OP, a singular event, that will never be repeated or built upon?

I might be mistaken but I'm getting the distinct impression that you think the rights of Christians are being eroded.
Can you please identify where?
They can follow their faith openly and without impediment from the government.
They can wear t-shirts with a picture of Jesus in public, they can wear a cross around their necks, they can gather in buildings dedicated to the express worship of their chosen deity, they can perform ceremonies for noted social events such as weddings, births and deaths in the manner of their choosing...I'm not too sure where you think the oppression comes in.

When you have people pretending that any public mention of Jesus is "Discrimination" against non-Christians,


it is obvious that the goal is to discriminate against Christians,


AND that people who are so bigoted against Christians are probably already discriminating against them is what ever way they can get away with.

I don't believe anyone has said that using Jesus' name is discriminating against anyone.
The idea of the change was to be more inclusive of all religions.
....

cnm said that very thing. And I've heard other liberals hold that basic position, so it is not just him.


And that is my point. The stated reason might be to be more inclusive. They always say some such shit.

But it is revealed to be a lie, by the way they are happy to have other efforts made to celebrate other SPECIFIC religions, such as the Muslim Call to Prayer as per the op.

 

[Correll]

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Joe certainly is a touchy-feely kind guy. Too many pictures of him doing just what was described for him to deny it.

Note the double standard.


Islam is observed nation wide, and that is fine.


Meanwhile any reference to Christianity is considered discrimination against everyone else.

I'd be interested in your best evidence of Christianity being discriminated against in favour of Islam in NZ.
Removing Jesus from the parliamentary prayer doesn't count because it hasn't been replaced with any Islamic reference.

Whys all of a sudden is Jesus offensive in NZ?

As far as I know he isn't.
Why do you think otherwise?

The behavior of the government in the op. THe words of the New Zealander lib in this thread.

God is still in the parliamentary prayer.
What's the issue again?

Same one it was before.


The double standard of the Left.


Christianity is purged, while Islam is celebrated.


That is not diversity. That is religious discrimination.

 

[Correll]

Joe certainly is a touchy-feely kind guy. Too many pictures of him doing just what was described for him to deny it.

I'd be interested in your best evidence of Christianity being discriminated against in favour of Islam in NZ.
Removing Jesus from the parliamentary prayer doesn't count because it hasn't been replaced with any Islamic reference.

Whys all of a sudden is Jesus offensive in NZ?

Liberals. They always find Christianity offensive. But now they have an excuse for their bigotry.

Why are you upset?
Where are Christians being offended against in NZ?

It bothers me to see Western Civilization declining in front of me. That is why I am upset.


The double standard and discrimination demonstrated in the OP, is an offense against Christians in NZ.

There's no discrimination shown in the OP.
God is still in the prayer, Christians are still free to practice their faith.

You'll have to explain where you see a double standard I'm sorry.

Christianity is purged while Islam is celebrated.


That is not diversity, that is religious discrimination.

 

[Correll]

Is the purging of any Christian references from the public prayer per the OP, a singular event, that will never be repeated or built upon?

I might be mistaken but I'm getting the distinct impression that you think the rights of Christians are being eroded.
Can you please identify where?
They can follow their faith openly and without impediment from the government.
They can wear t-shirts with a picture of Jesus in public, they can wear a cross around their necks, they can gather in buildings dedicated to the express worship of their chosen deity, they can perform ceremonies for noted social events such as weddings, births and deaths in the manner of their choosing...I'm not too sure where you think the oppression comes in.

When you have people pretending that any public mention of Jesus is "Discrimination" against non-Christians,


it is obvious that the goal is to discriminate against Christians,


AND that people who are so bigoted against Christians are probably already discriminating against them is what ever way they can get away with.

I don't believe anyone has said that using Jesus' name is discriminating against anyone.
The idea of the change was to be more inclusive of all religions.

Do you think God will disappear if we don't say the name of His son in the halls of power?
Isn't He supposed to be all-powerful?

-------------------------------------- The entire issue is simply the REMOVAL of the name Jesus IDB .

So, how is that discrimination?
The removal of Jesus as a favoured name above all others is the opposite of discrimination...it's being more inclusive.
You're objecting to the loss of discrimination in favour of your deity, if anything.

Show to be a lie by the national observation of the specific Muslim Call to Prayer.

 

[mudwhistle]

When you have people pretending that any public mention of Jesus is "Discrimination" against non-Christians,


it is obvious that the goal is to discriminate against Christians,


AND that people who are so bigoted against Christians are probably already discriminating against them is what ever way they can get away with.

I don't believe anyone has said that using Jesus' name is discriminating against anyone.
The idea of the change was to be more inclusive of all religions.

Do you think God will disappear if we don't say the name of His son in the halls of power?
Isn't He supposed to be all-powerful?

-------------------------------------- The entire issue is simply the REMOVAL of the name Jesus IDB .

So, how is that discrimination?
The removal of Jesus as a favoured name above all others is the opposite of discrimination...it's being more inclusive.
You're objecting to the loss of discrimination in favour of your deity, if anything.

Bullshit!!!!
Forcing people to adhere to the Islamic Call To Prayer while erasing Jesus from prayers in the state house is the very definition of discrimination.
You really need to stop with this play-acting at ignorance nonsense.......or is it an act??

Wait...what?!!!
When were people forced "to adhere to the Islamic Call To Prayer"?

You really are an ignorant asshole. New Zealand observes Muslim call to prayer to mark mosque attacks
Maybe you need to be more aware of current events.
They made it look like it was a collective agreement to do this, but in reality, anyone who refused would come under peer-pressure to comply. For now it's coercion.....later it will become law.

 

[pismoe]

'new zealanders' looks like youse guys are 'dhimmis' as if 'subjects' wasn't bad enough eh IBD !!

 

[pismoe]

But Christians do. And they have the right to publicly celebrate their faith and heritage.

Not through tax payer funded government.

Is the government supporting other cultures and faiths and heritages with tax money?

------------------------------- probably the muslims and the 'maoris' are subsidized is my guess .

 

[Correll]

But Christians do. And they have the right to publicly celebrate their faith and heritage.

Not through tax payer funded government.

Is the government supporting other cultures and faiths and heritages with tax money?

------------------------------- probably the muslims and the 'maoris' are subsidized is my guess .

It is not like celebrating "diversity" and "Multiculturalism" started with this.

So, yes, I am sure there are other examples, of this standard left double standard in New Zealand and more coming.

 

[mudwhistle]

But Christians do. And they have the right to publicly celebrate their faith and heritage.

Not through tax payer funded government.

Is the government supporting other cultures and faiths and heritages with tax money?

------------------------------- probably the muslims and the 'maoris' are subsidized is my guess .

It is not like celebrating "diversity" and "Multiculturalism" started with this.

So, yes, I am sure there are other examples, of this standard left double standard in New Zealand and more coming.

Yeah but everything they did last month was done in a vacuum and everything done last year does not matter anymore, says the dumbass liberal.

 

[idb]

no compromise from me even if I had the power . The name Jesus is Traditional , feck 'allah' . I prefer the example of what YOU leftys have done to remain visible . [I can't stand compromise as a general rule as it is weakness IBD] Maybe one or many of your 'new zealanders' will grow some Guts and get to work IBD .

You can say 'Jesus' as often and as loud as you want in New Zealand.
Neat, huh?

Yeah....you just can't do it in public in a government building now.
But the Muslims can throw out their prayer rugs anywhere, hold up traffic, shut down airports, you name it.
But to you this is "DIVERSITY".

You're such a con artist......and not even an effective one.

Oh...now I understand...you're wrong about everything.

 

[mudwhistle]

no compromise from me even if I had the power . The name Jesus is Traditional , feck 'allah' . I prefer the example of what YOU leftys have done to remain visible . [I can't stand compromise as a general rule as it is weakness IBD] Maybe one or many of your 'new zealanders' will grow some Guts and get to work IBD .

You can say 'Jesus' as often and as loud as you want in New Zealand.
Neat, huh?

Yeah....you just can't do it in public in a government building now.
But the Muslims can throw out their prayer rugs anywhere, hold up traffic, shut down airports, you name it.
But to you this is "DIVERSITY".

You're such a con artist......and not even an effective one.

Oh...now I understand...you're wrong about everything.

Nope.
You agree that the Muslim call to prayer is acceptable if government is involved, but not Christ. Jesus = Oppression
Islam = Peace & Love

And it doesn't matter if they did this on March 30th 2019 or October 30th 2018. They're still favoring one religion over another.

 

[idb]

You realise that they still have that right...don't you?

Is the purging of any Christian references from the public prayer per the OP, a singular event, that will never be repeated or built upon?

I might be mistaken but I'm getting the distinct impression that you think the rights of Christians are being eroded.
Can you please identify where?
They can follow their faith openly and without impediment from the government.
They can wear t-shirts with a picture of Jesus in public, they can wear a cross around their necks, they can gather in buildings dedicated to the express worship of their chosen deity, they can perform ceremonies for noted social events such as weddings, births and deaths in the manner of their choosing...I'm not too sure where you think the oppression comes in.

When you have people pretending that any public mention of Jesus is "Discrimination" against non-Christians,


it is obvious that the goal is to discriminate against Christians,


AND that people who are so bigoted against Christians are probably already discriminating against them is what ever way they can get away with.

I don't believe anyone has said that using Jesus' name is discriminating against anyone.
The idea of the change was to be more inclusive of all religions.
....

cnm said that very thing. And I've heard other liberals hold that basic position, so it is not just him.


And that is my point. The stated reason might be to be more inclusive. They always say some such shit.

But it is revealed to be a lie, by the way they are happy to have other efforts made to celebrate other SPECIFIC religions, such as the Muslim Call to Prayer as per the op.

The change to the parliamentary prayer would remove reference to SPECIFIC religions so any point you're making about discrimination is obviously wrong.
There was no national call to prayer.
There was a nationwide screening of a Christian memorial service for the 9/11 victims in 2001.
National holidays are held for Christian Easter and Christmas.
Christian ANZAC Day services are held across the country in April.

 

[idb]

Joe certainly is a touchy-feely kind guy. Too many pictures of him doing just what was described for him to deny it.

I'd be interested in your best evidence of Christianity being discriminated against in favour of Islam in NZ.
Removing Jesus from the parliamentary prayer doesn't count because it hasn't been replaced with any Islamic reference.

Whys all of a sudden is Jesus offensive in NZ?

As far as I know he isn't.
Why do you think otherwise?

The behavior of the government in the op. THe words of the New Zealander lib in this thread.

God is still in the parliamentary prayer.
What's the issue again?

Same one it was before.


The double standard of the Left.


Christianity is purged, while Islam is celebrated.


That is not diversity. That is religious discrimination.

Christianity has not been purged.
Where do you get your information from?