New Pope Is A Commie

Governments are elected, so they aren't using force.

I had to laugh here. Governments work solely by force.

Our government works by elections.

And you keep losing them because your party only represents the extraction companies and the 1%.

Ask the people of North Carolina how they feel about having a 70 mile pile of toxic sludge in the Danville river because the governor used to work for Duke Energy.

So because we elect the people who get to use the force they don't use force?

It's because people fail to recognize this simply concept and others like this that we have problems in this nation.
 
Socialism doesn't mean taking money from those who work hard and giving it to those who don't.

You're thinking of CAPITALISM.

No, that's socialism. Taking isn't allowed under capitalism.

Bullshit.

Capitalism is all about taking. Greed is good.

No. Capitalism is about people making mutually beneficial deals to put themselves in a better position than they would be if they were working for themselves.

In fact, the only way to make alot of money in a sustainable way under a capitalistic system is to provide goods and services to the most people as efficiently as possible. In order to make money, you have to improve the lives of others in some way.

Which is precisely why when people trying to get money through deception we have economic downturns. Because they aren't doing it the right way.

People work together to bless their own lives and help others. that's how the free market works.
 
Wrong. Under capitalism all transactions are entirely voluntary. Only government is allowed to use force.

Now you are changing your logic.

:lol:

And yet, he hasn't changed his argument in the slightest. You've just failed to understand it.

Actually it's you who have failed to understand why he HAD to change the logic.

Capitalism is ALL about taking.

Voluntary or not.

See, this is a field I actually work in, and have for some 20 years.
 
breaking the rules is just stupid. Even if you had some valid point, by breaking the rules you make sure no one feels obligated to acknowledge it.
 
No, that's socialism. Taking isn't allowed under capitalism.

Bullshit.

Capitalism is all about taking. Greed is good.

No. Capitalism is about people making mutually beneficial deals to put themselves in a better position than they would be if they were working for themselves.

In fact, the only way to make alot of money in a sustainable way under a capitalistic system is to provide goods and services to the most people as efficiently as possible. In order to make money, you have to improve the lives of others in some way.

Which is precisely why when people trying to get money through deception we have economic downturns. Because they aren't doing it the right way.

People work together to bless their own lives and help others. that's how the free market works.

No it's not.
 
Now you are changing your logic.

:lol:

And yet, he hasn't changed his argument in the slightest. You've just failed to understand it.

Actually it's you who have failed to understand why he HAD to change the logic.

Capitalism is ALL about taking.

Voluntary or not.

See, this is a field I actually work in, and have for some 20 years.

If it's voluntary, it's not taken. Taking requires compulsion.
 
And yet, he hasn't changed his argument in the slightest. You've just failed to understand it.

Actually it's you who have failed to understand why he HAD to change the logic.

Capitalism is ALL about taking.

Voluntary or not.

See, this is a field I actually work in, and have for some 20 years.

If it's voluntary, it's not taken. Taking requires compulsion.

Again.

You guys completely fail to understand capitalism.

Hostile takeovers? Do you think that's capitalism or not?

Poison pills? Do you think that's capitalism or not?

Corporate raiding? Do you think that's capitalism or not?

Hint. They all are capitalism.
 
Bullshit.

Capitalism is all about taking. Greed is good.

No. Capitalism is about people making mutually beneficial deals to put themselves in a better position than they would be if they were working for themselves.

In fact, the only way to make alot of money in a sustainable way under a capitalistic system is to provide goods and services to the most people as efficiently as possible. In order to make money, you have to improve the lives of others in some way.

Which is precisely why when people trying to get money through deception we have economic downturns. Because they aren't doing it the right way.

People work together to bless their own lives and help others. that's how the free market works.

No it's not.

Yes it is, numskull.

You do nothing but disparage capitalism, but you'll swear upside and down that you're not a communist.
 
Now you are changing your logic.

:lol:

And yet, he hasn't changed his argument in the slightest. You've just failed to understand it.

Actually it's you who have failed to understand why he HAD to change the logic.

Capitalism is ALL about taking.

Voluntary or not.

See, this is a field I actually work in, and have for some 20 years.

Nope. Taking requires the use of force. Only government is allowed to use force to achieve its aims in this country.
 
Actually it's you who have failed to understand why he HAD to change the logic.

Capitalism is ALL about taking.

Voluntary or not.

See, this is a field I actually work in, and have for some 20 years.

If it's voluntary, it's not taken. Taking requires compulsion.

Again.

You guys completely fail to understand capitalism.

Hostile takeovers? Do you think that's capitalism or not?

Poison pills? Do you think that's capitalism or not?

Corporate raiding? Do you think that's capitalism or not?

Hint. They all are capitalism.

Aside from the poison pills, you are correct, and I don't have a problem with it. "Hostile take overs" and "corporate raiding" are good for our economy. For one thing, they keep management from becoming entrenched and thereby allowing them to pay themselves 500 times what the average worker earns. I think poison pills probably violate the rights of the share holders, so I wouldn't call them part of capitalism.
 
No. Capitalism is about people making mutually beneficial deals to put themselves in a better position than they would be if they were working for themselves.

In fact, the only way to make alot of money in a sustainable way under a capitalistic system is to provide goods and services to the most people as efficiently as possible. In order to make money, you have to improve the lives of others in some way.

Which is precisely why when people trying to get money through deception we have economic downturns. Because they aren't doing it the right way.

People work together to bless their own lives and help others. that's how the free market works.

No it's not.

Yes it is, numskull.

You do nothing but disparage capitalism, but you'll swear upside and down that you're not a communist.

Well, no..I am no communist.

And I don't try to say that Barter is Capitalism.

Like you.

It's a extremely simple minded view of a very complex economic system.

You really should put away the crayons.
 
If it's voluntary, it's not taken. Taking requires compulsion.

Again.

You guys completely fail to understand capitalism.

Hostile takeovers? Do you think that's capitalism or not?

Poison pills? Do you think that's capitalism or not?

Corporate raiding? Do you think that's capitalism or not?

Hint. They all are capitalism.

Aside from the poison pills, you are correct, and I don't have a problem with it. "Hostile take overs" and "corporate raiding" are good for our economy. For one thing, they keep management from becoming entrenched and thereby allowing them to pay themselves 500 times what the average worker earns. I think poison pills probably violate the rights of the share holders, so I wouldn't call them part of capitalism.

And now?

You've changed your position, yet again.

When exactly do you feel embarrassed?

Or is that not a part of your makeup?
 
And yet, he hasn't changed his argument in the slightest. You've just failed to understand it.

Actually it's you who have failed to understand why he HAD to change the logic.

Capitalism is ALL about taking.

Voluntary or not.

See, this is a field I actually work in, and have for some 20 years.

Nope. Taking requires the use of force. Only government is allowed to use force to achieve its aims in this country.

No it doesn't.
 
No it's not.

Yes it is, numskull.

You do nothing but disparage capitalism, but you'll swear upside and down that you're not a communist.

Well, no..I am no communist.

And I don't try to say that Barter is Capitalism.

Like you.

It's a extremely simple minded view of a very complex economic system.

You really should put away the crayons.

Yes, you are a communist. You spout Marxist dogma in virtually every post.

For the record, I have never said barter is capitalism. Save your advice from your Komrades.
 
Again.

You guys completely fail to understand capitalism.

Hostile takeovers? Do you think that's capitalism or not?

Poison pills? Do you think that's capitalism or not?

Corporate raiding? Do you think that's capitalism or not?

Hint. They all are capitalism.

Aside from the poison pills, you are correct, and I don't have a problem with it. "Hostile take overs" and "corporate raiding" are good for our economy. For one thing, they keep management from becoming entrenched and thereby allowing them to pay themselves 500 times what the average worker earns. I think poison pills probably violate the rights of the share holders, so I wouldn't call them part of capitalism.

And now?

You've changed your position, yet again.

When exactly do you feel embarrassed?

Or is that not a part of your makeup?

What have I changed my position on?

I think you have me confused with someone else.
 
Yes it is, numskull.

You do nothing but disparage capitalism, but you'll swear upside and down that you're not a communist.

Well, no..I am no communist.

And I don't try to say that Barter is Capitalism.

Like you.

It's a extremely simple minded view of a very complex economic system.

You really should put away the crayons.

Yes, you are a communist. You spout Marxist dogma in virtually every post.

For the record, I have never said barter is capitalism. Save your advice from your Komrades.

This coming from a Theocrat?

Comedy gold.
 
Well, no..I am no communist.

And I don't try to say that Barter is Capitalism.

Like you.

It's a extremely simple minded view of a very complex economic system.

You really should put away the crayons.

Yes, you are a communist. You spout Marxist dogma in virtually every post.

For the record, I have never said barter is capitalism. Save your advice from your Komrades.

This coming from a Theocrat?

Comedy gold.

I'm a "theocrat?"

That's utterly hilarious considering the fact that I'm an atheist.

Comedy gold.
 

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