NBC/WSJ Poll Shows 64% Dissatisfied With Economy, 79% Dissatisfied With Direction

[Avorysuds]

And this is why I'm a libertarian. One side claims to end wars and cut massive military spending, yet Dems add more wars and spend more on military. Republicans claim to cut regulations and lower the annual deficit yet they manage to add more to both.

The congress and President is a general reflection of the citizens that make up this country, and this country likes to be told one thing but openly know that it will not be done. The general (majority) of people in this country are greedy, hypocritical, ignorant life wasting fools, and thus we have a congress and President that reflect just that.

 

[Erand7899]

I'm willing to listen to Democratic suggestions as well.

But I don't think either party has any ideas. They just count on their cultists to go out there and perpetuate partisan bickering. And as long as the discussion is partisan bickering, then no one has to do the hard work of sorting through all this and coming up with a real plan with real measurable objectives and real benchmarks so we can assess the program as we go.

Yo, geniuses. It's not much different from what Reagan did. You know why? Because it's tried and true. Except for modifications here and there, it's either basically a supply side approach, or a demand side approach (Keynes).

Or put an even simpler way...generally tax and spend....or generally cut taxes and cut spending. Notice I said generally. Of course some of you will display your inability to read, but for those who are actually trying to learn and not spout union talking points.

I don't think incurring more debt is the correct solution.

You have that right, but I am not sure that we have a choice any longer. The major cost drivers in the budget are Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and now Obamacare. How much pain are you willing to inflict on the people who rely on those programs, just to balance the budget?

That is the main problem with socialistic programs. Even when they are a mistake, and beyond what we can afford, they are almost impossible to reverse without considerable pain to those already on the edge.

 

[paulitician]

And this is why I'm a libertarian. One side claims to end wars and cut massive military spending, yet Dems add more wars and spend more on military. Republicans claim to cut regulations and lower the annual deficit yet they manage to add more to both.

The congress and President is a general reflection of the citizens that make up this country, and this country likes to be told one thing but openly know that it will not be done. The general (majority) of people in this country are greedy, hypocritical, ignorant life wasting fools, and thus we have a congress and President that reflect just that.

Yeah the Two-Party System really is just two sides of the same coin. In my opinion, both parties are All-In on Big Government. I don't see much difference between Communists/Progressives and Neocons. They both lead you to the same place... Big Brother control and domination.

 

[saveliberty]

Yo, geniuses. It's not much different from what Reagan did. You know why? Because it's tried and true. Except for modifications here and there, it's either basically a supply side approach, or a demand side approach (Keynes).

Or put an even simpler way...generally tax and spend....or generally cut taxes and cut spending. Notice I said generally. Of course some of you will display your inability to read, but for those who are actually trying to learn and not spout union talking points.

I don't think incurring more debt is the correct solution.

You have that right, but I am not sure that we have a choice any longer. The major cost drivers in the budget are Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and now Obamacare. How much pain are you willing to inflict on the people who rely on those programs, just to balance the budget?

That is the main problem with socialistic programs. Even when they are a mistake, and beyond what we can afford, they are almost impossible to reverse without considerable pain to those already on the edge.

Reference Greece...Portugal.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Did he do worse than all other white presidents?

Econchick simply wants to pontificate without having to prove anything. Doesn't work like that on this board.

Laugh my ass off, Fakey, what do you call this unequivocal poll in the OP I just showed you that follows months of consistent data?? And data from polls AND economic stats I might add. Btw, you DO realize that a lot of econ stats also come from......wait for it, wait for it, wait.........surveys!! Sometimes they survey workers, sometimes they survey businesses, etc.....that's where econ stats come from.

And you pontificate. What did tell you? We gave you surveys and you said "no". You wan't it both ways.

As long as you are on this board, you will find it does not work that way.

 

[EconChick]

Econchick simply wants to pontificate without having to prove anything. Doesn't work like that on this board.

Laugh my ass off, Fakey, what do you call this unequivocal poll in the OP I just showed you that follows months of consistent data?? And data from polls AND economic stats I might add. Btw, you DO realize that a lot of econ stats also come from......wait for it, wait for it, wait.........surveys!! Sometimes they survey workers, sometimes they survey businesses, etc.....that's where econ stats come from.

And you pontificate. What did tell you? We gave you surveys and you said "no". You wan't it both ways.

As long as you are on this board, you will find it does not work that way.

Doesn't work what way, Fakey? I've been doing a lot of posting for about a week now. This "does not work that way" meme of yours is hollow, just like you are.

I can't help you're too much of an intellectual lightweight to understand my arguments. Plenty other people seem to get it.

And the American people by overwhelming numbers get it too!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Laugh my ass off, Fakey, what do you call this unequivocal poll in the OP I just showed you that follows months of consistent data?? And data from polls AND economic stats I might add. Btw, you DO realize that a lot of econ stats also come from......wait for it, wait for it, wait.........surveys!! Sometimes they survey workers, sometimes they survey businesses, etc.....that's where econ stats come from.

And you pontificate. What did tell you? We gave you surveys and you said "no". You wan't it both ways.

As long as you are on this board, you will find it does not work that way.

Doesn't work what way, Fakey? I've been doing a lot of posting for about a week now. This "does not work that way" meme of yours is hollow, just like you are. I can't help you're too much of an intellectual lightweight to understand my arguments. Plenty other people seem to get it. And the American people by overwhelming numbers get it too!

Yes, they do, such as you lightweight fools on the far right are dismissed for your lack of relevance. Consumer confidence is at a seven year high, for instance, yet your pout. Not cute

 

[saveliberty]

The OP states polling facts and as such it is on the opposing point of view to present facts disproving the OP. Ball is in your court Jake.

 

[saveliberty]

The Thomson Reuters/University of Michigan's preliminary July reading on the overall index of consumer sentiment came in at 81.3, down from a final 82.5 in June. Consumer expectations fell for the third straight month. Published on 2014-07-18

United States Consumer Sentiment | Actual Data | Forecasts | Calendar

Really Jake?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Thomson Reuters/University of Michigan's preliminary July reading on the overall index of consumer sentiment came in at 81.3, down from a final 82.5 in June. Consumer expectations fell for the third straight month. Published on 2014-07-18

United States Consumer Sentiment | Actual Data | Forecasts | Calendar Really Jake?

The expectations are still at seven year highs.

Go check these numbers against those of seven years ago.

Really saveliberty?

 

[auditor0007]

Obama Hits All-Time Low in Polls


Pres. Obama hits all-time low in The NBC/WSJ poll

People's view of the economy is a funny thing. Generally, people parrot what they hear over and over again, but when it comes time to go to the polls, they actually vote with their wallet. The funny thing about all of these bad Obama numbers involving the economy is that most people are working and making money. I know one person who has been unemployed for a while, but everyone else I know is working if they want to be.

 

[saveliberty]

The Thomson Reuters/University of Michigan's preliminary July reading on the overall index of consumer sentiment came in at 81.3, down from a final 82.5 in June. Consumer expectations fell for the third straight month. Published on 2014-07-18

United States Consumer Sentiment | Actual Data | Forecasts | Calendar Really Jake?

The expectations are still at seven year highs.

Go check these numbers against those of seven years ago.

Really saveliberty?

I wouldn't have a disagreement with you if you had said near instead of at.
Of course we should have completely recovered in less than three years, except Obama handled it so poorly.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Your problems are yours, not mine.

Who says we should have recovered in three years: the far right?

The 1994 to 2006 congress nearly toppled America economically.

The damage was severe.

 

[saveliberty]

Most economic recoveries from recessions have not taken longer than three years. I guess economists and history say so Jake.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Most economic recoveries from recessions have not taken longer than three years. I guess economists and history say so Jake.

You guess? We are in a new world of business, technology, and banking.

If you have any hard evidence, love to see it.

 

[Iceweasel]

Most economic recoveries from recessions have not taken longer than three years. I guess economists and history say so Jake.

You guess? We are in a new world of business, technology, and banking.

If you have any hard evidence, love to see it.

The moving goal post defense. We can only judge economies by your standards I suppose? I've never heard anyone, libs included, that say we are in a good recovery mode. Struggling or slow, at best. After all this time and money spent. How many times do liberals need to see that we can't spend our way into prosperity for it to take hold? It defies logic. You can't do it. No business can do it. The government can't do it. The upper echelons pushing leftist agendas lie and the lemmings repeat what they're told.

 

[saveliberty]

According to economists, since 1854, the U.S. has encountered 32 cycles of expansions and contractions, with an average of 17 months of contraction and 38 months of expansion.

A 1 December 2008, report from the National Bureau of Economic Research stated that the U.S. has been in a recession since December 2007 (when economic activity peaked), based on a number of measures including job losses, declines in personal income, and declines in real GDP.[74] By July 2009 a growing number of economists believed that the recession may have ended.[75][76] The National Bureau of Economic Research announced on 20 September 2010 that the 2008/2009 recession ended in June 2009, making it the longest recession since World War II.

Recession - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hmmm...looks twice as long as most.