National Geographic on 9/11

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    Anyone here watch the new 9/11 debunking tactic on Nat Geo last night?

    I am putting together detailed and comprehensive information that will show what a farse it was all the while setting a mood or atmosphere of "what makes people want to believe".

    It was basically a "magic show" tactic with psychological propaganda.

    At least thay admitted 1/3 of Americans think 9/11 was an inside job.....by the way which is likely a much higher number now...

    Can you believe they start off with some propaganda BS right off the bat that 50% of all Americans in 1941, right after it happened, thought Pearl Harbor was intentionally allowed to happen by the government?

    I know I never thought that and where did they get those bogus numbers to start their propaganda piece?

    Don't you find it a bit odd that our government now resorts to television propaganda to try and sway people instead of having new official investigations?
     
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    In 1941 there was the question of why the carriers weren't there. There was the big argument between the Roosevelt administration and the Japanese over our embargo against them on strategic metals, and the fact that Perl was caught flat footed.

    There was also the fact Yamoto was, as Attache here, part of an exercise doing in 1928 exactly what he did in 1941, fly over the top of Oahu from the north because there were no defensive assets on that side. Worked in 28 too.

    Things that make people ask questions now that they didn'tn know back then was the fact we were able to read their diplomatic traffic faster than they could. The poor schmucks at the Japanese embassy were not told ahead of time, and their code guy was off that morning, so when they got traffic that day they had to find the code guy to translate the final Japanese message. Roosevelt had it two hours before the Japanese ambassador did. (We couldn't do military traffic in 41, but we broke that by April of 42. The Japanese were so full of themselves they couldn't believe we could read their messages.)

    That doesn't mean Roosevelt was culpable. The Japanese had their hands full, and he didn't believe they were serious.

    But lots of folks had problems with the official story at Pearl too.

    I don't have TV. I will have to wait for You Tube.

    There have been lots of serious investigations. Serious lunatics refuse to believe the facts of physics, chemistry and any other science that gets in the way of their silliness.
     
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    National Geographic is not a government owned media outlet :cuckoo:
     
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    people want to believe it was an inside job...because if it wasn't it means we are an inept bunch of twits and that we are not safe and our government can't protect us.....

    the police won't stop your murder but they will notify next of kin and call the morgue.....
     
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    They place a 1/2" thick horizontal metal beam over the fire with no fireproofing and the same alleged heat. Not only is this a farse because it was NOT placed vertical like the actual support columns....but it was only 1/2" thick compared to the actual vertical core columns that are up to 4.91" thick........that somehow cut themselves and blew out of the way fast enough all the way down so the top floor of each building would hit the ground almost as fast as a ball would if dropped right beside them.

    We will get more into how much fireproofing could have been lost and what sides, areas, etc later.

    This has nothing to do with the 47 tree trunks, vertical support columns that run from bedrock to the top floor which are welded together fusing them to be one tree trunk each or 47 tree trunks all the way up.

    The horizontal beam they heat up could only represent a tree branch, floor truss on the perimeter of the core columns.

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    They have this same demolition "expert" on every debunking propaganda...

    He portrays the dinosaur methods of controlled demolition using dynamite, one of the oldest forms of explosives ever made. There are now countless forms of explosives that have been developed and they play dumb using dynamite with miles of wires. This method of demolition may be more cost economical when bidding demolition contracts instead of using exotic explosives...but don't play it off as the ONLY type of explosives EVER developed.

    They play it out like the ONLY way to use explosives is with miles of wires. So your telling me that the cave dwellers in Afghanistan, Iraq etc are more advance than our best military technology when they can use a cell phone wireless signal to detonate bombs? With todays wireless technology they play it out like there MUST have been some evidence of wires.

    They clear out the entire floor of the building to show what it's like when controlled demolition explosives go off. This produces thunderous loud bangs trying to prove what it should have sounded like if explosives were used in the WTC buildings.

    All the vertical support columns were in the core of the WTC buildings and the outer shell would actually act like a muffler keeping decibels way down. Like the difference on how loud your car before or after the muffler falls off.
    Or the difference how loud a gun is with our without a silencer...etc.

    I have thoroughly researched controlled demolitions and it is far different than the dinosaur method the debunking propaganda portrays.

    There has been extensive research developments on controlled demolition methods. These are in areas of controlling sound decibels, ground vibration, and even controlling horizontal direction of debris. This is to prevent damaging nearby buildings windows by keeping sound decibels down and protect underground pipes by keeping ground vibrations down.

    This is accomplished by using many smaller explosives that produce a harmonic rumbling sound and not the loud bangs with fewer larger explosives.

    I distincly recall seeing episodes on the learning channels like 15yrs ago where they were showing new technology. One of the things I seen was where they put only one droplet of a substance on an ink pen that was powerful enough so when someone clicked it would have blown their head off. It was liquid form and dried.

    I really love the part where they use 5/8" thick cement board which is used for tile backing and call it a scaled down pentagon wall and fire a 500 mile an hour projectile through it...LOL

    I really love how they use a lb. of explosives on the whole cement board apparatus and blow the whole thing to smithereens and portray it like another segment of the scaled down experiment...OMFG!!!

    They kept showing footage of flight 93 crashsite where there was no sign of a plane and I was really looking forward to hearing that part but they didn't address it.

    So why did they try and portray it like those are the only types of explosives available (first type invented) and there have been no further developments in explosives and wireless technology?

    There is technology to wireless control several Unmanned Planes with various flight paths and destinations now completely automated with computers but this doesn't cross over to controlling explosives?
     
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    I watched that, at the insistence of the wife.
    What I saw, even during the 'experiments', was a show designed to show how stubborn and quick to discredit information that doesn't fit their narrative that "truthers", the hard core ones, can be.

    The truthers on the show did the same thing you are doing, going out of their way to "prove" the 'debunking' is wrong. debunking the debunking.

    The show was successful in showing that. At the end they even said that some of the truthers would never believe anything, despite how or who proved it.

    Now, carry on with all your point by point arguments for or against your favorite 911 theories.....

    It is I who knows what really happened.
    If your not talking about space aliens, midgets and elvis, your on the wrong track.
     
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    So what manipulating steps were taken to slowly evolve our country to have "debunking propaganda" instead of new official investigations when the citizens ask for one?
     
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    Thus far, the NIST investigation and both this 'debunking' and the one done by popular mechanics were considered garbage by the truthers.(wait for it, I know you want to say they are)
    The show i watched last night did say that maybe a new investigation would happen, but it likely would not as no investigation would ever be accepted by the truther movemnet
    It would be a waste of time and money.
    Are you the exception?
     
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    How can you look at this and believe this is just a collapsing building?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_B_Azbg0go"]YouTube- South Tower Smoking Guns[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBVhxnkK6s8"]YouTube- South Tower Smoking Guns (Follow-up)[/ame]

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    You are absolutely right, I already know what really happened though.
    Ok, I am going to go through this one more time;
    Evil aliens abducted the planes, and all the passengers on 911. They had abducted humans before, to breed a super race of humans. Unfortunately they abducted a midget, thus they were only able to breed a race of evil midgets. They had also abducted Elvis, but he was impotent and his dna was damaged by drugs, so all he was good for was training the evil midgets. The evil midgets were the ones that cleaned up the mess on the ground, killed a few people to make it look real and likely planted the explosives that actually took down the buildings since when they abducted the planes they could not have hit the buildings. (yes, that exactly why you don't see any wreckage in PA, it was all staged by the midgets.) Now that was just the beginning, the abducted plane passengers are being used to breed a race of normal sized super humans to take over the world.
    Now all we need to figure out is how long it takes to breed, raise and train a race of normal sized super humans.
    Now doesn't that just make much more sense than either the official story or the wired together theories that are casually tossed around by the conspiracy theorists?
    Yes there is a conspiracy, but our government simply isn't smart enough or skilled enough to pull it off.
    Therefore, it must be evil midgets, its the only thing that makes sense.


    For more information, see my thread entitled "prepare for your new midget masters"
    http://www.usmessageboard.com/conspiracy-theories/73624-prepare-for-your-new-midget-masters.html
     

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