the other mike
Diamond Member
If you can be drafted into the fucking military when you're 18,
I don't see a problem with 16 being the driving and voting age.
Only Republicans hate the idea -- I wonder why.
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Just another idea from the left. If they had their way, it would be all non english illegal immigrants and 10 year olds.
Just my humble opinion.
I am okay with it.
If you are old enough to drive a car - and you are in most states - you are old enough to vote.
It seems pretty silly to allow a 16 year old to legally drive a two ton vehicle at roughly 1/10'th the speed of sound on public roads...yet we don't allow them to vote?
And forget the notion they are too ignorant. With the internet - I bet you the average 16 year old knows 10 times more about the world then most people here over 50 did at 18.
Naaa...give 'em the vote.
Just another idea from the left. If they had their way, it would be all non english illegal immigrants and 10 year olds.
Just my humble opinion.
I have three teenage grandsons. One is a history buff but application to todays politics is not there yet and the other two can tell you all the songs on youtube but that is it. And all are bright...So, I say a resounding NO.Just another idea from the left. If they had their way, it would be all non english illegal immigrants and 10 year olds.
Just my humble opinion.
I am okay with it.
If you are old enough to drive a car - and you are in most states - you are old enough to vote.
It seems pretty silly to allow a 16 year old to legally drive a two ton vehicle at roughly 1/10'th the speed of sound on public roads...yet we don't allow them to vote?
And forget the notion they are too ignorant. With the internet - I bet you the average 16 year old knows 10 times more about the world then most people here over 50 did at 18.
Naaa...give 'em the vote.
There is no justification in these times for allowing 16 year olds to vote. The average 16 year old public school victim is no more than a barely-functional moron.
Yeah, right. Turn off the internet and see how much they know.
Nothing is wrong with that poster. They are right.demrats are desperate
desperate for votes
It won't work you losers ....demrat scum
What is wrong with you?
Not the worst idea I’ve ever heard.
While I’m against it myself…I think there is a valid argument that could be made to have the youth voting especially since we have a President who runs up trillion plus dollar yearly deficits that will have to be paid for by the youth…at some point.
LMAO. Until you can serve you cannot vote
I can understand why you think all black people are on welfare, but that isnt actually the case. The truth is, 42% of them receive government assistance.Welfare! Thats the one that killed black culture and created tremendous poverty.Why don't take a minute out of your tricky day and enlighten me, oh holy one ?Haha, you think those are social programs! Haha, youre dumb! Your stupidity amuses me.National Parks, roads and bridges, schools, clean water and breathable air, affordable healthcare, and veterans hospitals...social projects are stupid.No, we are going to raise the voting age to 30 and then youll have to learn how to convince bread winners to give up their hard earned money for all your dumbass social projects.
Yeah because all black people are on welfare.
Can you imagine how much worse our schools will be with hateful little leftist teachers pressuring their students to vote “D”?
Well maybe for class "officials"........It's a terrible idea. Children should not be able to vote.
Not even that. Why teach them to be corrupt politicians in their tender years?
I have three teenage grandsons. One is a history buff but application to todays politics is not there yet and the other two can tell you all the songs on youtube but that is it. And all are bright...So, I say a resounding NO.Just another idea from the left. If they had their way, it would be all non english illegal immigrants and 10 year olds.
Just my humble opinion.
I am okay with it.
If you are old enough to drive a car - and you are in most states - you are old enough to vote.
It seems pretty silly to allow a 16 year old to legally drive a two ton vehicle at roughly 1/10'th the speed of sound on public roads...yet we don't allow them to vote?
And forget the notion they are too ignorant. With the internet - I bet you the average 16 year old knows 10 times more about the world then most people here over 50 did at 18.
Naaa...give 'em the vote.
There is no justification in these times for allowing 16 year olds to vote. The average 16 year old public school victim is no more than a barely-functional moron.
Yeah, right. Turn off the internet and see how much they know.
What about 14? Why not allow 14 year olds?I have three teenage grandsons. One is a history buff but application to todays politics is not there yet and the other two can tell you all the songs on youtube but that is it. And all are bright...So, I say a resounding NO.Just another idea from the left. If they had their way, it would be all non english illegal immigrants and 10 year olds.
Just my humble opinion.
I am okay with it.
If you are old enough to drive a car - and you are in most states - you are old enough to vote.
It seems pretty silly to allow a 16 year old to legally drive a two ton vehicle at roughly 1/10'th the speed of sound on public roads...yet we don't allow them to vote?
And forget the notion they are too ignorant. With the internet - I bet you the average 16 year old knows 10 times more about the world then most people here over 50 did at 18.
Naaa...give 'em the vote.
There is no justification in these times for allowing 16 year olds to vote. The average 16 year old public school victim is no more than a barely-functional moron.
Yeah, right. Turn off the internet and see how much they know.
I said 'knew more about the world'...not history. You don't need to know history to vote (though it helps). But you DO need to know about the present.
And every teenager I know knows a TON more then most of my friends when I was in high school.
But besides all that...general knowledge is not a prerequisite for voting. You could live under a rock your entire life and still be eligible to vote.
And if a 16 year old can produce and raise a child and drive a car and fly a plane (which they can legally) then they can vote. It is - no offense - ridiculous to allow a 16 year old to do all that...but say they cannot vote.
It takes a HELL of a lot more knowledge and responsibility to fly a plane then it does to vote. I have flown a plane - I know.
What are the main thoughts of a 16 year old?I have three teenage grandsons. One is a history buff but application to todays politics is not there yet and the other two can tell you all the songs on youtube but that is it. And all are bright...So, I say a resounding NO.Just another idea from the left. If they had their way, it would be all non english illegal immigrants and 10 year olds.
Just my humble opinion.
I am okay with it.
If you are old enough to drive a car - and you are in most states - you are old enough to vote.
It seems pretty silly to allow a 16 year old to legally drive a two ton vehicle at roughly 1/10'th the speed of sound on public roads...yet we don't allow them to vote?
And forget the notion they are too ignorant. With the internet - I bet you the average 16 year old knows 10 times more about the world then most people here over 50 did at 18.
Naaa...give 'em the vote.
There is no justification in these times for allowing 16 year olds to vote. The average 16 year old public school victim is no more than a barely-functional moron.
Yeah, right. Turn off the internet and see how much they know.
I said 'knew more about the world'...not history. You don't need to know history to vote (though it helps). But you DO need to know about the present.
And every teenager I know knows a TON more then most of my friends when I was in high school.
But besides all that...general knowledge is not a prerequisite for voting. You could live under a rock your entire life and still be eligible to vote.
And if a 16 year old can produce and raise a child and drive a car and fly a plane (which they can legally) then they can vote. It is - no offense - ridiculous to allow a 16 year old to do all that...but say they cannot vote.
It takes a HELL of a lot more knowledge and responsibility to fly a plane then it does to vote. I have flown a plane - I know.
What are the main thoughts of a 16 year old?I have three teenage grandsons. One is a history buff but application to todays politics is not there yet and the other two can tell you all the songs on youtube but that is it. And all are bright...So, I say a resounding NO.Just another idea from the left. If they had their way, it would be all non english illegal immigrants and 10 year olds.
Just my humble opinion.
I am okay with it.
If you are old enough to drive a car - and you are in most states - you are old enough to vote.
It seems pretty silly to allow a 16 year old to legally drive a two ton vehicle at roughly 1/10'th the speed of sound on public roads...yet we don't allow them to vote?
And forget the notion they are too ignorant. With the internet - I bet you the average 16 year old knows 10 times more about the world then most people here over 50 did at 18.
Naaa...give 'em the vote.
There is no justification in these times for allowing 16 year olds to vote. The average 16 year old public school victim is no more than a barely-functional moron.
Yeah, right. Turn off the internet and see how much they know.
I said 'knew more about the world'...not history. You don't need to know history to vote (though it helps). But you DO need to know about the present.
And every teenager I know knows a TON more then most of my friends when I was in high school.
But besides all that...general knowledge is not a prerequisite for voting. You could live under a rock your entire life and still be eligible to vote.
And if a 16 year old can produce and raise a child and drive a car and fly a plane (which they can legally) then they can vote. It is - no offense - ridiculous to allow a 16 year old to do all that...but say they cannot vote.
It takes a HELL of a lot more knowledge and responsibility to fly a plane then it does to vote. I have flown a plane - I know.
1. Getting a car
2. Getting a date
3. Going to college (most)
4. Getting a job so he can get 1,2,3
5. Avoiding doing chores at home
6. Going out with friends and experiencing drinking, smoking and some (drugs)
7. Avoiding their parents
So how do you think they would vote? The party of personal responsibility making our society strong and free or socialist values that requires little of the citizen but giving him free (but limited) free college, free insurance, free healthcare...conning him into taking from the government while later in life it means getting less out of life because everything is taxed to the extreme and the goal of making a good living has been taken away.
Boedicca, what is your ideal un-socialist government? In terms of government responsibility, what would you like to see? How would roads, bridges, dams, food/drug inspections etc be funded? Would 'eminent domain' be legal? Or military used as police? If you are thinking of powerful iron-fisted leadership over governance that provides military power only, maybe Kim Jong Un is the guy for you. You hate public schools, so what do you suggest? You hate public healthcare, so what do you offer? Do you think those in need should just lay down and die and/or watch their kids suffer because they are too proud to ask for help? In your world, would that help be available?Can you imagine how much worse our schools will be with hateful little leftist teachers pressuring their students to vote “D”?
Well maybe for class "officials"........It's a terrible idea. Children should not be able to vote.
Not even that. Why teach them to be corrupt politicians in their tender years?
Well...that's only a few degrees more totalitarian than where we are now.
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but they are considered to know enough shit to go and fight some war in some godforsaken country on the other side of the world.....It should be 21. 18 year olds don't know shit.
Hell, realistically it should be raised to 25 actually. Not that 18 - 25 year olds really vote anyway.