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And the fact remains that no matter the myriad reasons a leader declares war , the common man has fought and died more for his gods than for any other reason
Were the Vikings motivated by religion? Hell no!
Egypt? Hell no!
'The Greeks? Hell no!
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YOu anti-religious folks just fucking make history up to make your point and frankly I tire of this myth.
Read your fucking history, boys.
It isn't all about the Hebrewic fanatics, Jewish, Christian and Islamic
Religon SELDOM played a major factor in going to war, power OFTEN did.
I would blame the man's mental illness or reason for doing it as well.
Islam is one of those religions that has brought prosperity to the world.
Your argument of blaming the man not the hatchet would apply to all the benefits as well. It was the nice man not the tool. If religion is a corruptable tool that can be replaced by other means why wouldn't we want get rid of it?
then what has been the leading cause of death in the world....it would have to be territorial rights....moving ethnic groups enslave or killed the group on the land they wanted....nothing has really changed about that now has it? pirates exist to this day. greed, lust are two of the 7 deadly sins
religion as a uniting factor..i just dont see that...seems most churches here will split over anything.
I've seen many a simpleton opine that religion is the single greatest cause of war. This is simply not true. Religion is however, one of history's most successful tools for unifying a populace and maintaining public order. And yes, this very element has oft been exploited by leaders of men as a means to arrouse support and justifcation for going to war. But that makes evil those that exploit the tool for evil, not the tool itself. If a man hacked up your family with a hatchet, would you blame the hatchet or the man? On the whole, religion has been an absolute boon for humanity in terms of both survival and prosperity. Without which we may very well not be here talking about it today. To categorically dismiss religion as a scourge of humanity is to betray a marked dearth of wisdom and maturity.
Were the Vikings motivated by religion? Hell no!
Cowards never saw the halls of Valhalla
Vikings came for booty and stayed for the land.
They didn't come to pray they came to prey.
Who cares what they told themselves, they weren't there to SPREAD THEIR FAITH, which the benchmark of a RELIGIOUS war.
Egypt? Hell no!
IN many of their campaigns, the gods were invoked and the honor of both ewgypt and her gods became a rallying cry for the comon soldier
How do you know that? You don't, but let's assume it's true anyway, shall we?
Now, was the religion of Egypt spread to the people of the lands Egypt dominated?
Hell no, it was not.
The captive lands of the Pharohs could pray to anything they wanted, just as long as they paid tribute to Egypt.
Ergo, religion was NOT the cause of Egypts wars of expansion
You're playing (or falling for) a revisionist game.
And the way the game is played is this...
If the people fighting believed in a GOD, credit their every move as being motivated by that religion.
Sheer fucking revisionist (and thoughly anti-religious) nonsense.
Everyculture or tribe believed in some religion in those days.
But not every religion sought converts and if conversion isn't the point of the war their war isn't a religious war.
What you and others who believe this myth seem to be doing is viewing every war every culture and every people through the (presumed, incorrectly) religiously fanaticism of the Judeao-Christian lens of rationalizg why they had the RIGHT to slaughter people who got in their way.
The ancient Hebrews didn't have religious wars even if they c they claimed they were backed by GOD.
They had wars of domination for territory. Anyone who stood in their way happened NOT to be in the tribes.
Sure they killed all non-believers, but not because they were non-believers, but because they were on the land that the Jews wanted.
That's not a RELIGIOUS war, sport, that's a tribal war for territory, plain and simple.
Religion caused everyone to divide into little groups , who each called the other liar and fool, and is still a dividing force today. A lot of the friction and war in today's world are religion based.
Religion caused everyone to divide into little groups , who each called the other liar and fool, and is still a dividing force today. A lot of the friction and war in today's world are religion based.
But you've brought them all back together Al. Everyone thinks you're a liar and a fool.
Way to go!
Religion caused everyone to divide into little groups , who each called the other liar and fool, and is still a dividing force today. A lot of the friction and war in today's world are religion based.
The pursuit of power and wealth is the leading cause of war and bloodshed in human history
The biggest reason for bloodshed is Imperialism and precious stones; religion has only been a useful tool in that conquest, and that is an undeniable fact. How many millions of natives lost their lives "In the nme of god"? How many more were enslaved "in the name of god"? How many Christians and Muslims slaughtered each other "in the name of god"? The casualties are countless, and while it might not have been THE real reason, it was more often than not the justification, because it's easier to say that people must die to defend god than to defend those who "defend god" to maintain their power and wealth. And in the meantime, the representative of Christ on Earth sits in his golden palace reaping the benefits of fountains of red blood.
then what has been the leading cause of death in the world....it would have to be territorial rights....moving ethnic groups enslave or killed the group on the land they wanted....nothing has really changed about that now has it? pirates exist to this day. greed, lust are two of the 7 deadly sins
religion as a uniting factor..i just dont see that...seems most churches here will split over anything.
The catholic church is full of homo pedophiles and is one of the, if not the richest business on the planet, yet they still demand money from you just to be a part of their religion. Just like the mob. They've killed more people over the years than any other organization, except the us army maybe, and continue to enslave women, discriminate against gays, and condone and promote overpopulation.