My encounter with a census workers

[Hamlet]

Because I decided to take the initiative and looked at her clipboard

Do none of you consider the fact that I am VISITING HERE??? AND that my Mother is at t.he hospital day and night with my sister and these freaks are pushing the limits of their power to such an extreme that they did not see the need to identify themselves, first and foremost.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Right.
And what makes you think her clipboard wasn't a fake?

If someone sketchy showed up at my door asking questions about who lives in the house and they did not show me an ID badge, I'd shut the door and report it to the police.

And the LAST THING you want to do is tell a stranger with no ID that the owner is in the hospital.....I smell a scam, possible casing of the premises and the OP is so fogged by hatred of the government that she fails to see the real issue.

Both the census worker and the patrons can have their bad days. In 2000 I stopped at a lady's house and it was a bad time. Her washer was out of balance and thumping and a baby had a poopy diaper. So I got her number and called her back later and did the interview over the phone. Census workers are required to make the first visit to the site in person but after that can arrange to do it by telephone.

We try to work with the patrons and don't want to be a burden or any more intrusive than is necessary. I think this year's questionnaire is less intrusive than earlier ones were.

 

[Hamlet]

So yesterday, I was at my Mom's house, in the most socialist state of our country. Why I am here is irrelevant.

Anyway, this woman knocks on my Mom's door, and I was almost afraid to answer it because she looked like some sort of creek creature/methhead?????

I opened the door and she started grilling me immediately, "who are you,?" "Why are you here?" "wheres the woman of the house?" She did not identify herself,and I had to look at the clipboard she was carrying before I realized that she was a census worker aka redcoat.

I told her I was at my mothers house and I dont live here so I could not answer her questions. She persisted, and I said it it none of your damned buisness what I am doing here. She then told me that I MUST tell her. MUST.

I became quite enraged at this point and told her that my is mother at the hospital with her daughter who is undergoing a life threatening procedure. Then I told her to get out of my face.

In the next post I will tell you of my second encounter with said census worker AND her husband AKA another census worker, on the same property, the following day.

Needless to say, I am livid, considering what is happening to my sister and my families state of affairs

Cool, maybe they'll stop fixing the roads and sidewalks in your mom's neighborhood.

Curious ... what is the department of transportation for, the dept of education etc etc ?

The census data can be used to help allocate funds to areas based on the population count and other information gathered by the workers. For example, the data can be
analyszed to determine which areas are in need of bilingual capability and which are not.


I think the basic objective of the population count is to allocate representatives to the Congress, and this must be a relative allocation process as my state has lost two reps. ovrer the years where a state that has grown might get more reps over the years. I assume the total number of reps is contant at 435 but I don't know that for sure. This number of reps would then be allocated or distributed to the areas based on population count or density.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Fuck you too.

Not a chance, hack...

Everyone with a different opinion is a hack according to House.

House swings both ways?

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I thought I was the only one he was making passes at. Oh well, House is a swinger and I'm not so special.

sigh

 

[Ravi]

I encourage all Republicans, those that lean right, and tea partiers to absolutely refuse to answer the census.

 

[Hamlet]

And just think, instead of shooting them, you could have just mailed in the form instead!Better go buy some more bullets then!

My Mom DID mail in the form.
These people looked like they crawled out from under a rock, it was like I was in a special episode of deliverance
And they did NOT identify themselves, I am out in the real boonies here

the census does hire some people of ill repute because the job is temporary.

They are probably workfare people, who are recovering drug addicts.

Some census workers may be the elderly, retired. But the job is temporary so
the people who do it are the temporary type.

It can and does cause hard feelings, but if a census worker wants to conduct an interview even though the patron has mailed it in then there is a reason. One possible reason is that the mail-in questionnaire didn't update the books before the worker's address listing was printed. She or he works from an address listing that tells where to go and who to interview.

There can also be processing errors, and as a retired computer analyst/programmer I can relate to processing errors. Hopefully these errors impact only a minute portion of the population.

Let's look at the high percentage of some 130,000,000 addresses that are done correctly rather than making a mountain out of a mole hill. And when you got some 300,000 workers doing the process under pressure then give them some slack as mistakes will be made and tempers can be short. We are only human, and for the most part are part time novices at this game.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I encourage all Republicans, those that lean right, and tea partiers to absolutely refuse to answer the census.

I say we then make them nonpersons, and this way when we send them to the camps we can deny holding them. It is of course in the national interest to lock up those who cannot be accounted for in the national census. Why, they're no better than invading aliens.

 

[Hamlet]

My Mom DID mail in the form.

These people looked like they crawled out from under a rock, it was like I was in a special episode of deliverance

And they did NOT identify themselves, I am out in the real boonies here

Um.... They were not census workers. Do you not watch the news?
I heard on the news about 20 times, that they will not come to your house if you fill it out. And it is a scam if they do.

That's not true. They will come for a variety of reasons--missing information being primary.

There are various census activities going on simultateously in a given area a a point in
time. Some people do surveys on a routine basis throughout each year, some are we decennial workers, and others are quality control people who follow up on our work or work on obvious cases of fraud or boo boos. There are also situations that can trigger a visit from a specialist, so try to be patient and trust that these various people mean no harm.

 

[Dr.House]

Not a chance, hack...

Everyone with a different opinion is a hack according to House.

House swings both ways?

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I thought I was the only one he was making passes at. Oh well, House is a swinger and I'm not so special.

sigh

Dainty's man-love travels across threads...

Dainty has the Dr.House Fevah!

 

[Hamlet]

I think Bones probably has given the best response to the OP. Census workers should have IDs and should be able to provide something that says they are a census worker. In any event it doesn't make any difference whether it's a census worker or not, there's no excuse for anybody displaying the type of conduct described by PixieStix if they are on some kind of legitimate business.

I don't care what situation is put out, there's a scam artist at the ready to take advantage of it and do their dirty deeds.

As for "creek creatures," there's a lot of people out there that could fit the description - I've just never heard them called "creek creatures." Pixie, you coined a great phrase there!! I like that!!

At the bottom line on this year's census, the anger is over the evasiveness of the information asked. There are questions that are entirely inappropriate and non-essential for counting heads." Some people are getting short forms and some are getting these long forms. I'm grateful that I got a short form, but even there I had questions. I understand asking for race - perfectly fine. But the next question asked for ethnicity. What the hell does that have to do with anything? Hell, being of Irish, Polish, Greek, Bosnian or any other descent has nothing to do with anything as far as I can tell - they're all generally classified as "white" or "caucasian." "Hispanic" doesn't matter whether you're Mexican, Puerto Rican or Columbian.

I don't believe there was any such thing as a "long form." There was one floating around that was bogus, so perhaps you saw that. But everyone got the same short form.

As for ethnicity vs. race, it does indeed matter, because a Puerto Rican would not appreciate being called a Mexican wetback as just one example. People of Spanish origin are proud of their separate heritages. The same goes for Orientals. If a person is Chinese, s/he does not like to be called a Korean.

Ten years ago there was a long form sent to each tenth patron, but this year the long form is not being used as part of the decennial census effort, which is the main effort of trying to follow up on mail out forms that have not been returned by a certain cut off date.

That long form was a bone of contention and took up a lot of time for the decennial worker who had hundreds of cases to work in a short time, maybe less than a week.

Now the long form is done by specialists on a year round basis that are not part of the decennial effort, and it could happen that some people might get both the long form and the short form although they are coming for two different reasons. Decennial census workers are not trained to handle the long form this time around.

 

[Anguille]

You'd think part of that training would include identifying themselves as census worker...

Get bent, lady....

So you're taking Pixi's word for it that they did not? I don't. Not for one moment. I've had temp jobs like that, though nowhere near the training involved, and you are first and foremost scripted with an opener which of course is introducing yourself and who you represent.

I have known Pixie for a long time and have no reason to doubt her account...

And who the hell are you?

Anonymous posters on a message board vouching for each other's honesty.

Too funny!

 

[Anguille]

the census does hire some people of ill repute because the job is temporary.

They are probably workfare people, who are recovering drug addicts.

Some census workers may be the elderly, retired. But the job is temporary so
the people who do it are the temporary type.

Gee, they sound like a bunch of losers. I hope I never encounter one!

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

So you're taking Pixi's word for it that they did not? I don't. Not for one moment. I've had temp jobs like that, though nowhere near the training involved, and you are first and foremost scripted with an opener which of course is introducing yourself and who you represent.

I have known Pixie for a long time and have no reason to doubt her account...

And who the hell are you?

Anonymous posters on a message board vouching for each other's honesty.

Too funny!

and the Doctor has a bad case of Dante Fevah.

in the real world he'd be prosecuted for practicing medicine without a license or the balls to stop hiding behind women

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

the census does hire some people of ill repute because the job is temporary.

They are probably workfare people, who are recovering drug addicts.

Some census workers may be the elderly, retired. But the job is temporary so
the people who do it are the temporary type.

Gee, they sound like a bunch of losers. I hope I never encounter one!

I hope all census workers are really plants for the Obama take over machine.

 

[Dr.House]

So you're taking Pixi's word for it that they did not? I don't. Not for one moment. I've had temp jobs like that, though nowhere near the training involved, and you are first and foremost scripted with an opener which of course is introducing yourself and who you represent.

I have known Pixie for a long time and have no reason to doubt her account...

And who the hell are you?

Anonymous posters on a message board vouching for each other's honesty.

Too funny!

Someone who knows Pixie and stated his opinion of her account... Nothing more - nothing less...

You're welcome to your own opinion of her account...

Who the fuck are you?

 

[Dr.House]

I have known Pixie for a long time and have no reason to doubt her account...

And who the hell are you?

Anonymous posters on a message board vouching for each other's honesty.

Too funny!

and the Doctor has a bad case of Dante Fevah.

in the real world he'd be prosecuted for practicing medicine without a license or the balls to stop hiding behind women

 

[Anguille]

I encourage all Republicans, those that lean right, and tea partiers to absolutely refuse to answer the census.

That would be great. Then the Red States could possibly lose representation altogether. Blue states would become the Nanny states of the Red states and all would be well in the world.

 

[The T]

I have known Pixie for a long time and have no reason to doubt her account...

And who the hell are you?

Anonymous posters on a message board vouching for each other's honesty.

Too funny!

and the Doctor has a bad case of Dante Fevah.

in the real world he'd be prosecuted for practicing medicine without a license or the balls to stop hiding behind women

So? In other words you're admitting you're fantasising...and you're actually GAY and have it in for The Good Doctor...

Let me tell you el-Dante? The good Doc doesn't swing that way...no matter how much you wish he was. I've known the DOC for a few years...

He's a He-Man...and would flick you off like the gnat in the face that you are. You're a nuiscience, nothing more.

 

[Harry Dresden]

come to your house if you mailed it in too late or it gets lost in the mail.

nothing gets "lost" in the mail....

 

[bodecea]

So you're taking Pixi's word for it that they did not? I don't. Not for one moment. I've had temp jobs like that, though nowhere near the training involved, and you are first and foremost scripted with an opener which of course is introducing yourself and who you represent.

I have known Pixie for a long time and have no reason to doubt her account...

Ditto.

Well then.....

 

[bodecea]

Of course you don't need my advice. I'm also writing what I want to write and am highlighting your typical 'quality' of input - pissing.

And your 'quality' of input is pissing about my pissing. You're really so funny. But I do realize that it ruins your entire day when you can't have the last word, so I won't keep this going. You can have it, sweetie.

Pixie Dusthead made up the story or embellished one in such a way that only a wingnut would take it at face value

Well...look who did. There's your answer.