My encounter with a census workers

[MaggieMae]

I think Bones probably has given the best response to the OP. Census workers should have IDs and should be able to provide something that says they are a census worker. In any event it doesn't make any difference whether it's a census worker or not, there's no excuse for anybody displaying the type of conduct described by PixieStix if they are on some kind of legitimate business.

I don't care what situation is put out, there's a scam artist at the ready to take advantage of it and do their dirty deeds.

As for "creek creatures," there's a lot of people out there that could fit the description - I've just never heard them called "creek creatures." Pixie, you coined a great phrase there!! I like that!!

At the bottom line on this year's census, the anger is over the evasiveness of the information asked. There are questions that are entirely inappropriate and non-essential for counting heads." Some people are getting short forms and some are getting these long forms. I'm grateful that I got a short form, but even there I had questions. I understand asking for race - perfectly fine. But the next question asked for ethnicity. What the hell does that have to do with anything? Hell, being of Irish, Polish, Greek, Bosnian or any other descent has nothing to do with anything as far as I can tell - they're all generally classified as "white" or "caucasian." "Hispanic" doesn't matter whether you're Mexican, Puerto Rican or Columbian.

I don't believe there was any such thing as a "long form." There was one floating around that was bogus, so perhaps you saw that. But everyone got the same short form.

As for ethnicity vs. race, it does indeed matter, because a Puerto Rican would not appreciate being called a Mexican wetback as just one example. People of Spanish origin are proud of their separate heritages. The same goes for Orientals. If a person is Chinese, s/he does not like to be called a Korean.

 

[MaggieMae]

So how do you know she was actually a census worker?

Because I decided to take the initiative and looked at her clipboard

Do none of you consider the fact that I am VISITING HERE??? AND that my Mother is at t.he hospital day and night with my sister and these freaks are pushing the limits of their power to such an extreme that they did not see the need to identify themselves, first and foremost.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Right.
And what makes you think her clipboard wasn't a fake?

If someone sketchy showed up at my door asking questions about who lives in the house and they did not show me an ID badge, I'd shut the door and report it to the police.

I'm with you. If I looked out the window and saw somebody standing there that looked like a creek creature, I wouldn't answer the door, period. If they shouted they were from the Census Bureau, I would have shouted back, "Then go home and put on some decent clothes and wash your hair. Then we'll talk. Maybe."

 

[The T]

Ditto.

you are judged by the company you keep, you know.

palling around with idiots, whiners, liars, pearl clutchers.

true dat

Ditto to the both of you idiots.

 

[MaggieMae]

You'd think part of that training would include identifying themselves as census worker...

Get bent, lady....

So you're taking Pixi's word for it that they did not? I don't. Not for one moment. I've had temp jobs like that, though nowhere near the training involved, and you are first and foremost scripted with an opener which of course is introducing yourself and who you represent.

I have known Pixie for a long time and have no reason to doubt her account...

Well, that's you and I'm me. And considering the amount of bitching and whining over the census in months past, even if her story IS true, I'm positive we'll be seeing a ton of made up stories from now 'til July.

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Sorry, broke my ankle and I couldn't make it to the door. Hell, I have not made it to the mail box in weeks. I bet I have some overdue bills piling up. I could re-injure it even worse any day now. Who knows when I can walk again. ~BH

 

[MaggieMae]

Get bent, lady....

Fuck you too.

Not a chance, hack...

Everyone with a different opinion is a hack according to House.

 

[MaggieMae]

Ummmm, not so strange as I made an example in the hope that you might actually recognize how useless it is to do so.

Kinda useless for you to jump in too, isn't it? I'll write what I want, hon. Don't need your advice.

Of course you don't need my advice. I'm also writing what I want to write and am highlighting your typical 'quality' of input - pissing.

And your 'quality' of input is pissing about my pissing. You're really so funny. But I do realize that it ruins your entire day when you can't have the last word, so I won't keep this going. You can have it, sweetie.

 

[Hamlet]

So yesterday, I was at my Mom's house, in the most socialist state of our country. Why I am here is irrelevant.

Anyway, this woman knocks on my Mom's door, and I was almost afraid to answer it because she looked like some sort of creek creature/methhead?????

I opened the door and she started grilling me immediately, "who are you,?" "Why are you here?" "wheres the woman of the house?" She did not identify herself,and I had to look at the clipboard she was carrying before I realized that she was a census worker aka redcoat.

I told her I was at my mothers house and I dont live here so I could not answer her questions. She persisted, and I said it it none of your damned buisness what I am doing here. She then told me that I MUST tell her. MUST.

I became quite enraged at this point and told her that my is mother at the hospital with her daughter who is undergoing a life threatening procedure. Then I told her to get out of my face.

In the next post I will tell you of my second encounter with said census worker AND her husband AKA another census worker, on the same property, the following day.

Needless to say, I am livid, considering what is happening to my sister and my families state of affairs

Sounds like a real fun couple. Next time tell them to send their supervisor and you will have a police officer and your lawyer present.

Yes, in fact I am also calling the census office on Monday

Did the woman have a badge that identified her as a census worker? I am a crew leader and have 18 people working for me. You must have had a turn of bad luck because my
people are well received and their performance is very good.

I am sorry to hear you had a run in with the lady. You could have probably told her much of what she needed to know about that household even though you were under no obligation to do so since you did not live there. However, a member of that household is obligated by law to answer the census questionnaire and there can be penalties for not doing so. It is 100 dollars for refusing to provide the information and 500 dollars for giving false information.

You need to understand that census workers do not make the laws or the policies and Obama probably has little to do with it as the constitution specifies that a decennial census shall be taken in a manner prescribed by the Congress.

I worked two refusals today by going to the landlord on one case and to the courthouse in another, so there are legitimate ways for census workers to get the info they are required by law to gather.

Each year the media and a few bad encounters hype the census process out of reality. If you do not want the census then you might petition your Congressman to amend the Constituion of the United States but bad mouthing the process and the workers is not very constructive.

Once again I am sorry about your experience and I doubt that she and her so-called husband were legitimate census workers.

 

[MaggieMae]

And just think, instead of shooting them, you could have just mailed in the form instead!Better go buy some more bullets then!

My Mom DID mail in the form.
These people looked like they crawled out from under a rock, it was like I was in a special episode of deliverance
And they did NOT identify themselves, I am out in the real boonies here

the census does hire some people of ill repute because the job is temporary.

They are probably workfare people, who are recovering drug addicts.

Some census workers may be the elderly, retired. But the job is temporary so
the people who do it are the temporary type.

7.5% unemployment, and they're gonna hire drug addicts. Uh huh...unfuckingreal. Do you actually THINK occasionally?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Kinda useless for you to jump in too, isn't it? I'll write what I want, hon. Don't need your advice.

Of course you don't need my advice. I'm also writing what I want to write and am highlighting your typical 'quality' of input - pissing.

And your 'quality' of input is pissing about my pissing. You're really so funny. But I do realize that it ruins your entire day when you can't have the last word, so I won't keep this going. You can have it, sweetie.

Pixie Dusthead made up the story or embellished one in such a way that only a wingnut would take it at face value

 

[Ravi]

The OP is a lie, IMO.

You are so predictable

Thanks. I've seen enough message board chimps making things up that it is often easy to spot.

 

[Hamlet]

So yesterday, I was at my Mom's house, in the most socialist state of our country. Why I am here is irrelevant.

Anyway, this woman knocks on my Mom's door, and I was almost afraid to answer it because she looked like some sort of creek creature/methhead?????

I opened the door and she started grilling me immediately, "who are you,?" "Why are you here?" "wheres the woman of the house?" She did not identify herself,and I had to look at the clipboard she was carrying before I realized that she was a census worker aka redcoat.

I told her I was at my mothers house and I dont live here so I could not answer her questions. She persisted, and I said it it none of your damned buisness what I am doing here. She then told me that I MUST tell her. MUST.

I became quite enraged at this point and told her that my is mother at the hospital with her daughter who is undergoing a life threatening procedure. Then I told her to get out of my face.

In the next post I will tell you of my second encounter with said census worker AND her husband AKA another census worker, on the same property, the following day.

Needless to say, I am livid, considering what is happening to my sister and my families state of affairs

Sounds like a real fun couple. Next time tell them to send their supervisor and you will have a police officer and your lawyer present.

Hopefully their supervisor has more sense than this alleged lady did. By the way, the law works to help us census workers as well as the people. And the bureau has no shortage of lawyers.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The OP is a lie, IMO.

You are so predictable

Thanks. I've seen enough message board chimps making things up that it is often easy to spot.

ditto

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Hopefully their supervisor has more sense than this alleged lady did. By the way, the law works to help us census workers as well as the people. And the bureau has no shortage of lawyers.

it would be interesting if the OP was even halfway believable, which it is not

 

[Granny]

So yesterday, I was at my Mom's house, in the most socialist state of our country. Why I am here is irrelevant.

Anyway, this woman knocks on my Mom's door, and I was almost afraid to answer it because she looked like some sort of creek creature/methhead?????

I opened the door and she started grilling me immediately, "who are you,?" "Why are you here?" "wheres the woman of the house?" She did not identify herself,and I had to look at the clipboard she was carrying before I realized that she was a census worker aka redcoat.

I told her I was at my mothers house and I dont live here so I could not answer her questions. She persisted, and I said it it none of your damned buisness what I am doing here. She then told me that I MUST tell her. MUST.

I became quite enraged at this point and told her that my is mother at the hospital with her daughter who is undergoing a life threatening procedure. Then I told her to get out of my face.

In the next post I will tell you of my second encounter with said census worker AND her husband AKA another census worker, on the same property, the following day.

Needless to say, I am livid, considering what is happening to my sister and my families state of affairs

I'm guessing you exaggerate. A Lot. Since you've already made it clear that you would be one who refused to mail your census form, nor answer the door if one came knocking, you were already in attack mode. The only part of your post I believe is that you became "quite enraged."

The census workers went through six weeks of training, much of it involving how to deal with difficult people such as yourself. Why would she blow her job? Get real, lady.

A little harsh, Maddy - Pixie made no such comment in this post. She did say she lived in another state and I would guess she may not know all the answers her mother would have to give. In any event, she herself was dealing with improperly rude strangers at the door, and I would certainly give her a pass on being rude in return. I don't think I've ever seen any posts by Pixie that would lead me to believe she's a difficult people.

 

[Hamlet]

...She did not identify herself.....

So how do you know she was actually a census worker?

Good Point, I'm sure a lot of con artists would use this to get into people's homes.

But, if she DOES work for the Census, than Pixie does need to lodge a complaint.


But also Pixie, keep in mind not everyone who works for the Census is rude like that lady. They hire people from all walks of life, just like any other job out there.

That is right. The government takes our finger prints and runs a background check on us as well as requiring us to take an oath and sign certain commitments to protecting the confidentiality of the data that is gathered. They don't do personality profiles on us and that might prove to be not cost effective for the short duration jobs we do.

The Bureau in a sense has to take a number of people who aren't cut out for the job, but you gotta see their pov. It is tough to find quality help that is willing to devote 20 to 30
hours and more to such short term part time employment. It has been said that the Bureau hires and trains as much as 200 percent of the manpower that is needed because many quit soon or never even show up for training.

They are working my butt off but I kinda enjoy it. I have a good courier and a good boss, plus two good assistants and a bunch of very productive and sensible people. Once in a while you get a bad one but that is life. I usually sit the losers on the bench and don't assign them more work because they can be more trouble than they are worth.

I have done census work for the past ten years on various types of projects, and getting along with the difficult patrons is something that not everyone can do well. Being an older male that is people oriented, I usually leave people smiling and glad we had a little visit. Many of the oldsters are lonely, particularly the widow, and are happy to talk to someone.

 

[Hamlet]

So yesterday, I was at my Mom's house, in the most socialist state of our country. Why I am here is irrelevant.

Anyway, this woman knocks on my Mom's door, and I was almost afraid to answer it because she looked like some sort of creek creature/methhead?????

I opened the door and she started grilling me immediately, "who are you,?" "Why are you here?" "wheres the woman of the house?" She did not identify herself,and I had to look at the clipboard she was carrying before I realized that she was a census worker aka redcoat.

I told her I was at my mothers house and I dont live here so I could not answer her questions. She persisted, and I said it it none of your damned buisness what I am doing here. She then told me that I MUST tell her. MUST.

I became quite enraged at this point and told her that my is mother at the hospital with her daughter who is undergoing a life threatening procedure. Then I told her to get out of my face.

In the next post I will tell you of my second encounter with said census worker AND her husband AKA another census worker, on the same property, the following day.

Needless to say, I am livid, considering what is happening to my sister and my families state of affairs

You are either not telling the truth, or it was a scam.

Watch the video.
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Maybe so. I have heard there are plenty of shysters out there and plenty of scams.
We census field workers do not have official picture IDs and I wish we did. The badge simply indicates a hand written name and an officiall looking census bureau inscrption. The background is white and the lettering is either blue or red.

The enumerator badges say enumator, the crew leader assistant badges say just that, and the crew leader badges have crew leader printed on them.

The chain of command, from bottom up, is enumertor, who goes door to door, crew leader assistant, who also enumerates and has admin. duties, the crew leader, who spends long days doing admin. work and helping his or people in whatever way possible to make the project run smooth, the field office supervisor, and then a person above that at the local census office location, which is somewhat of a misnomer. For example, my LCO has about a third of the land area in this state and probably most of the state's population.

LCOs have a staff of supervisory personnel and a staff for data entry and perhaps image scanning equipment for the questionnaires themselves. The whole thing is a large and expensive setup but we seem to get the job done, meet the deadlines, and try to stay within budget on labor expenses.

 

[random3434]

So how do you know she was actually a census worker?

Good Point, I'm sure a lot of con artists would use this to get into people's homes.

But, if she DOES work for the Census, than Pixie does need to lodge a complaint.


But also Pixie, keep in mind not everyone who works for the Census is rude like that lady. They hire people from all walks of life, just like any other job out there.

That is right. The government takes our finger prints and runs a background check on us as well as requiring us to take an oath and sign certain commitments to protecting the confidentiality of the data that is gathered. They don't do personality profiles on us and that might prove to be not cost effective for the short duration jobs we do.

The Bureau in a sense has to take a number of people who aren't cut out for the job, but you gotta see their pov. It is tough to find quality help that is willing to devote 20 to 30
hours and more to such short term part time employment. It has been said that the Bureau hires and trains as much as 200 percent of the manpower that is needed because many quit soon or never even show up for training.

They are working my butt off but I kinda enjoy it. I have a good courier and a good boss, plus two good assistants and a bunch of very productive and sensible people. Once in a while you get a bad one but that is life. I usually sit the losers on the bench and don't assign them more work because they can be more trouble than they are worth.

I have done census work for the past ten years on various types of projects, and getting along with the difficult patrons is something that not everyone can do well. Being an older male that is people oriented, I usually leave people smiling and glad we had a little visit. Many of the oldsters are lonely, particularly the widow, and are happy to talk to someone.

Thank you for the most sane post of this entire thread.

My mother used to work for the census too. She liked it because she felt she was doing her civic duty, she made some extra money, and she loved talking to people.

They aren't all evil trolls from the 'gubment' out to get you, just ordinary folks like you and me, or our parents.

Like you said, sometimes there are a few bad eggs in the carton, but again, that's to be found anywhere.


And again Pixie, if you feel these people do work for the census, then you need to lodge a complaint.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

A little harsh, Maddy - Pixie made no such comment in this post. She did say she lived in another state and I would guess she may not know all the answers her mother would have to give. In any event, she herself was dealing with improperly rude strangers at the door, and I would certainly give her a pass on being rude in return. I don't think I've ever seen any posts by Pixie that would lead me to believe she's a difficult people.

only if one believes the incredibly silly story Pixie himself wants people to believe. Pixie has to eb a guy. Why else would somebody ask to see the lady of the house?

 

[Dr.House]

Fuck you too.

Not a chance, hack...

Everyone with a different opinion is a hack according to House.

No, but you certainly are...

Prime Grade-A Hack