My Analysis of Tuesday GOP Convention Speeches

[Caroljo]

So instead of taking responsibility for her mistake, she kills the baby. She wasn't raped by the boyfriend or a relative, she chose to take the chance of getting pregnant. Did she ever consider having it and putting the child up for adoption to a couple that would love having a baby? Most likely not.....

 

[Truthmatters]

Still cant be honest about the context of Obama's "You didn't build that" remark? What's wrong with you lefties? Is it really that difficult to say that Obama said something stupid?

He didnt say what you claim you fucking liar.

lying is all you fuckeers can come up with to defend your historicially failed ideas.


Did the businesses build those roads?

did they?

 

[Liability]

They cry out that "Government didn't build this country, we did!!!" or some other bumper sticker motto. Then, in the same breathe, they'll spew about how our country was built and maintains freedom only because of the military.

As if the government and military aren't the same fucking thing.

Welcome to bizzaro far right wing land.

Hey, sucks90:

It's clear that you are an idiot, but are you being left unattended? That's dangerous. For you. Your complete lack of honesty is already established, you poseur.

But, since you are a drooling idiot asshole lying lib moron hack, let's make you wither and scream in pain with just a small dose of honest rebuttal.

The government is NOT the same thing as the military, you horse's rectum.

Further, nobody except your make-believe caricatures ever says that the U.S. is ONLY free because of its military.

You are not just dishonest, but very transparent.

You persuade as many people with your idiocy as TderpM and rderp combined. 0 = 0 still = 0.

 

[Goodoledays]

Still cant be honest about the context of Obama's "You didn't build that" remark? What's wrong with you lefties? Is it really that difficult to say that Obama said something stupid?

Its difficult for them when their BRAINWASHED.

 

[Liability]

The "context" of what Obama said doesn't mitigage what he said and doesn't alter his underlying message.

Like all good socialists, he chooses to preach the orthodoxy of the minimization of the value of the individual. Deprive the individual of any credit for individual effort and success.

What he said was a revelation of what that moron actually believes. And he believes it passionately. He's a dickhead.

 

[Avatar4321]

Governors' Walker, Kasich, Christie and McDonnell spoke earlier tonight, along with Ann Romney.

Romney and Christie were the big-two speakers, with Mitt's wife warming her husband up and Christie delivering the keynote.

There was an interesting theme that played out: They all talked about an era in America when their parents or grandparents came to the country with nothing and made something of themselves.

They riffed the whole evening on President Obama's quote "You Didn't Build That", continuing to take it out of context. Obama was talking about how it takes all of us working together to get stuff like roads and bridges done, which then allow for small businesses to flourish.

But Republicans take it to mean that self-reliance is frowned upon while suckin' on the gov't teat is the ONLY way.

So then they all get to talking about a bygone era where their folks and grandfolks came here with nothing and made something of themselves. That's all nice and good, but the G.I. Bill got Gov. Christie's dad his education.

Rick Santorum took public money to home school his kids. Most people do.

The Public Works Administration, which came to be under FDR, and which was signed off by both cons and libs, put the country back to work, giving some of their ancestors jobs.

A gov't bailout of Salt Lake City allowed for Mitt Romney to turn the Olympics around.

Gov't action in Mass. passed by Romney allowed for scholarships for thousands of kids out there.

Ann Romney said that Mitt Romney wasn't given anything, and built himself up on his own. Does anybody really believe that?

They stand there, hypocrites the lot of them, trying to say that self-reliance and self-reliance alone was responsible for their successes, but the facts don't bare that out. Indeed, they did NOT build themselves up alone. It was a mix of being given help by both other family members and the government and then, finally, self-reliance and hard work and determination that got them where they are today.

Their hypocrisy is just so fucking lame to watch. They stand there and believe the crap they're peddling in their own invented reality.

Yes they are the small minds of this country.

Small minds cant see they are small minds.

it would shatter their worlds

Thank you for the laugh this morning.

 

[Avatar4321]

Still cant be honest about the context of Obama's "You didn't build that" remark? What's wrong with you lefties? Is it really that difficult to say that Obama said something stupid?

He didnt say what you claim you fucking liar.

lying is all you fuckeers can come up with to defend your historicially failed ideas.


Did the businesses build those roads?

did they?

So you, TM, are trying to claim that Barack Obama never said, "If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen." That's your position? I Just want to make sure you are truly claiming that.

 

[Goodoledays]

Still cant be honest about the context of Obama's "You didn't build that" remark? What's wrong with you lefties? Is it really that difficult to say that Obama said something stupid?

He didnt say what you claim you fucking liar.

lying is all you fuckeers can come up with to defend your historicially failed ideas.


Did the businesses build those roads?

did they?

Yes he did say what was stated. And yes businesses built those roads. The businesses paid their taxes and those taxes were used to pay for those roads. And the resturants that those workers went to to eat paid for the workers at the resturant. And the resturant paid for the delivery of the food for their resturant which paid for the workers of the delivery service. Its called the DOMINOS effect.

Yes one helps the other and has an effect on others. But the way Ubama puts it the individual business person didn't build that business. He makes it sound like it was the gov't built it and without the gov't it wasn't possible.

Ubama is a coward. He tries and take credit when ever something good happens but won't admit it when he fails. All he does is point the finger at someone else. And by his followers covering up for him they are doing the same thing. You can't accept the truth even when it hits you in the face. Well its going to hit you so hard come Nov. you won't be able to stand up on your own. Be prepared.

 

[Liberal]

Just a bunch of clueless tea baggers, rich white people and a few Ron Paul supporters.

Very weak speeches (so far), rehashing the same points to which America is already showing a waning attention span.

Pretty much a sealed deal for Obama, wait until the debates..

 

[JoeB131]

Still cant be honest about the context of Obama's "You didn't build that" remark? What's wrong with you lefties? Is it really that difficult to say that Obama said something stupid?

Actually, what he said was pretty accurate.

Businesses can't survive and prosper without the strong infrastructure provided by government.

Roads, bridges, police and fire protection, banks that are insured by the government, contract laws that can be enforced, utilities that run reliably, printing paper currency that is valid, these are all things you have in the United States that you didn't have in let's say, Somalia.

Which is why Microsoft popped up in America and not Somalia.

Now, people with inflated opinions of their own self worth don't want to hear that. These self-made men wouldn't last a day in a place like Somalia. The prosper because government created an environment for them to prosper.

 

[rightwinger]

I thought Christie was good. He's a good public speaker and has done a lot of good in NJ the hard way, I think hes got a bright future.


Ann Ronmey's BS talk about love is just that BS. If the GOP would grow up and embrace same sex marriage I think then they could say they do know what love for each and every American means. Till then, they are full of shit and just plain pathetic for peddling their current anti-gay agenda.

I think Ann Romney is sincere in her love of Mitt and their family structure

But it was obvious that theirs is the only type of family which is desirable. Single mothers, gays need not apply

It was a common theme for the night....Return to the values of 50 years ago

 

[G.T.]

He's clearly referring to the "American System" spoken in the sentence before. But you can "interpret" it either way, if you do want to be partisan, and get away with it.


“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help,” said Obama. “There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

“The point is,” he continued “that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.”

 

[Katzndogz]

The best speech was Nikki Haley. I had no idea obama had come down so hard on South Carolina. He's sued them almost as many times as Arizona. Does obama have something against states with women governors?

 

[Greenbeard]

He's clearly referring to the "American System" spoken in the sentence before. But you can "interpret" it either way, if you do want to be partisan, and get away with it.


“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help,” said Obama. “There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

“The point is,” he continued “that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.”

Stripping a quote of context to change the meaning and mislead listeners is a common enough trick.

I've just never seen anyone build an entire convention theme around a single instance of that trickery. It's pretty mindboggling.

 

[Oldstyle]

OP: How do you take "you didn't build that" out of context. I think that's pretty straightforward. You can watch the entire minute rant and be absolutely disgusted. Obama said what he meant and we take him at his word. Now, does that mean that he wasn't make a larger point? Of course not. But he was acting as though building a business is a walk in the park and that other people are disproportionately "building" it. His context was that government is responsible for business and it's not. WE THE PEOPLE.

Just like you assholes are doing it.

you took a few words out of a long sentance to make it sound like he said something other than he was saying.

Lie away you fucking asshole.

it doesnt change the fact that you have to LIE to try and sound like your side has something to offer this country

That single speech...read off a teleprompter by Barack Obama...scripted by the Obama camp...is going to cost Barry this election. Why? Because it clearly showed the level of contempt that the progressives in this Administration have for independent business people. It was one of those crucial moments when the curtain is drawn back and and the facade is seen through and we got to see what the people currently running this country really FEEL about us. Barack Obama doesn't respect the sacrifices that it takes to start and run a business because he's never done it. He doesn't have a clue about that and he's surrounded himself with like minded people who ALSO don't have a clue about that. They simply made the critical mistake of letting us all KNOW that.

 

[Katzndogz]

obama's entire speech is actually worse than those sectioned out in the clip. You didn't build that is silly, it's a silly thing to say. The real contempt came from "you think you're smart. A lot of people are smart. You think you work hard. A lot of people work hard". Meaning that no matter what you do, the individual should not keep the proceeds of his efforts.

 

[G.T.]

OP: How do you take "you didn't build that" out of context. I think that's pretty straightforward. You can watch the entire minute rant and be absolutely disgusted. Obama said what he meant and we take him at his word. Now, does that mean that he wasn't make a larger point? Of course not. But he was acting as though building a business is a walk in the park and that other people are disproportionately "building" it. His context was that government is responsible for business and it's not. WE THE PEOPLE.

Just like you assholes are doing it.

you took a few words out of a long sentance to make it sound like he said something other than he was saying.

Lie away you fucking asshole.

it doesnt change the fact that you have to LIE to try and sound like your side has something to offer this country

That single speech...read off a teleprompter by Barack Obama...scripted by the Obama camp...is going to cost Barry this election. Why? Because it clearly showed the level of contempt that the progressives in this Administration have for independent business people. It was one of those crucial moments when the curtain is drawn back and and the facade is seen through and we got to see what the people currently running this country really FEEL about us. Barack Obama doesn't respect the sacrifices that it takes to start and run a business because he's never done it. He doesn't have a clue about that and he's surrounded himself with like minded people who ALSO don't have a clue about that. They simply made the critical mistake of letting us all KNOW that.

It was a speech about how Americans help each other. Just because you heard clips or perceive it through cynical partisan ears, doesn't change the fact.

 

[Oldstyle]

Just like you assholes are doing it.

you took a few words out of a long sentance to make it sound like he said something other than he was saying.

Lie away you fucking asshole.

it doesnt change the fact that you have to LIE to try and sound like your side has something to offer this country

That single speech...read off a teleprompter by Barack Obama...scripted by the Obama camp...is going to cost Barry this election. Why? Because it clearly showed the level of contempt that the progressives in this Administration have for independent business people. It was one of those crucial moments when the curtain is drawn back and and the facade is seen through and we got to see what the people currently running this country really FEEL about us. Barack Obama doesn't respect the sacrifices that it takes to start and run a business because he's never done it. He doesn't have a clue about that and he's surrounded himself with like minded people who ALSO don't have a clue about that. They simply made the critical mistake of letting us all KNOW that.

It was a speech about how Americans help each other. Just because you heard clips or perceive it through cynical partisan ears, doesn't change the fact.

No, it was a speech about how Americans can't do without government and it was oblivious to the fact that for most small businesses in America, having to comply with government regulations and red tape is an ever increasing burden that takes more and more of their time and their money with each passing year.

Not only did they "build that"...they built it DESPITE the roadblocks that government bureaucrats threw at them while they were building it!

And I didn't glean that from listening to "clips" of Obama's speech...I got that from listening to the speech in its entirety. The truth is...he badly misjudged the anger that his clarion call for more government would create among those individuals in the country that had in fact "built that". He was in front of a partisan liberal crowd and it appears he got caught up in their fervor and gave us a little glimpse of his real take on free enterprise in this country...something which he immediately tried to back pedal from.

 

[Avatar4321]

He's clearly referring to the "American System" spoken in the sentence before. But you can "interpret" it either way, if you do want to be partisan, and get away with it.


“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help,” said Obama. “There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

“The point is,” he continued “that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.”

Stripping a quote of context to change the meaning and mislead listeners is a common enough trick.

I've just never seen anyone build an entire convention theme around a single instance of that trickery. It's pretty mindboggling.

You guys are so amusing. The Context makes what he said even worse and you act like it's perfectly alright. He said what he said. It was a stupid statement, but it's what he believes, why you cant admit that is ridiculous.

 

[Greenbeard]

You guys are so amusing. The Context makes what he said even worse and you act like it's perfectly alright.

The fact that the soundbite is deliberately recut to strip out the context (as it was repeatedly in last night's proceedings) should clue you in on the reality.

If the context "makes what he said even worse," the RNC wouldn't be bending over backwards to exclude it, believe me.