Muslims are our friends but Islam is the enemy of Western Civilization?

[Mr.Fitnah]

This has got to be a huge joke.

Fact free posting is Eds style.

 

[High_Gravity]

Their legal rights are the same and they, like Muslims, may vote for candidates and run for office in representative councils and be appointed to other local and national government positions. It goes without saying that they serve as judges at every level of their respective religious courts.

The Khalifah, his delegated assistant, governers, and provincial mayors are considered "ruling" positions and as such must be filled by Muslims, since Islam is the guiding ideology of the state and no country can expect to last long if it allows itself to be ruled by people who don't believe in its fundamental philosophy.

My concern is what happens if a Muslim woman marries a Christian or Jewish man, would they be stoned to death in this Islamic society?

The marriage wouldn't be performed.

Why is it ok for a Muslim man to marry a non believer but not for a Muslim woman?

 

[Sunni Man]

Why is it ok for a Muslim man to marry a non believer but not for a Muslim woman?

Because in most countries the children are raised to follow the Father's religion.

So that's why there is a prohibition on Muslim women marrying a non muslim.

Because the children wouldn't be raised as muslims.

 

[High_Gravity]

The Christians in Pakistan and Egypt aren't bothering the Islamic rule and they are being slaughtered, whats up with that?

"Islamic rule" does not exist in either of those countries.

Egypt and Pakistan are both Muslim majority countries where Islam is the official state religion.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Why is it ok for a Muslim man to marry a non believer but not for a Muslim woman?

Because in most countries the children are raised to follow the Father's religion.

So that's why there is a prohibition on Muslim women marrying a non muslim.

Because the children wouldn't be raised as muslims.

Demographic jihad.

 

[Foxfyre]

The Christians in Pakistan and Egypt aren't bothering the Islamic rule and they are being slaughtered, whats up with that?

"Islamic rule" does not exist in either of those countries.

Egypt and Pakistan are both Muslim majority countries where Islam is the official state religion.

In fact Pakistan was created to provide a safe haven for Muslims in that area--a place where Muslims would not be corrupted or hassled by a government favoring a different religion. Not the exact reason Israel was created, but close. Once that was established, fearing for their lives and property, most or all of the numerous Sikhs living in Pakistan fled to india or other neighboring areas leaving Pakistan predominantly Muslim.

The tiny minorities of other religions aren't faring any better there:

More and more Hindus are leaving Pakistan or converting to Islam to save their future, official records and media reports suggest.\

“The Hindus, like other minorities, feel insecure and are leaving for other countries, mainly India. They are also becoming Muslims to make sure they are given equal rights,” a human rights activist told this newspaper citing survey reports. He said even the government has not been able to assure the minorities, at least in their statements, that their rights will be protected.

“Hindus and other minorities feel the government is also not sincere in bringing them at par with other citizens and they also consider them second-rate citizens,” he added. Hindus make up about 1.8 per cent of Pakistan’s predominantly Muslim population of 165 million, according to official figures. The largest number, about 95 per cent, is concentrated in the southern province of Sindh. The Hindu population has declined over the years as they opt to leave the country or become Muslim to avoid discrimination.

The bias against all minority communities has expanded rapidly. Early in November, Aasia Bibi, a young Christian mother of five, was sentenced to death by a court under controversial blasphemy laws. She became the first woman to be condemned to hang under the law. The case against her seemed to have been triggered by a minor dispute with other female farm labourers on the land she worked on after they said she, as a non-Muslim, was “impure” and could not fetch water from a well.
Fear forces Hindus to leave Pak, or convert | The Asian Age>

And this of course is the problem as I see it. Wherever Islam has taken substantial control of any place, all non-Muslims do become second class citizens with minimal rights if they are allowed to live at all.

No one is saying that Muslims should not live their lives, order their government, and conduct their affairs as they choose. It is those who are not given the right to choose, even when it affects nobody but themselves, that is of concern.

Western civilization, most espeically America, recognizes and respect unalienable rights meaning people can live, think, speak, write, or conduct their affairs in any way they choose that does not violate or infringe on rights of any other. Islam does not respect such rights. And for that reason I do not want Islam to have any say or control anywhere in Western civilization.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

This cannot be said to often

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[High_Gravity]

From what I have read it seems like dogs have more rights in Pakistan than Hindus or Christians.

 

[Sunni Man]

Demographic jihad.

I am doing the best I can in populating the earth with muslim children.

Especially enjoy the process of creating them........

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

And we are working as hard as we can to support them.

 

[Sunni Man]

And we are working as hard as we can to support them.

How could you support anyone Mr. Fitnuts ?

You can barely make it with your current unemployment checks!!

 

[Ropey]

I am doing the best I can in populating the earth with muslim children.

Especially enjoy the process of creating them........

And may they find good and happy lives Sunni Man. Excuse my removal of the other quote. In my eyes, it does not belong.

I also have enjoyed the process, but the end result is our creations.

They are truly our 'works'.

 

[GHook93]

There are two types of Jihads. The violent takeover of countries and the MORE dangerous one the Silent Jihad. This is what is happening in Europe and Russia. Muslims immigrant in record numbers to these Western countries. They reproduce like rabbits and take full advantage of the welfare system. The welfare burdens get pushed onto the Native European population. When the Muslim population is low (like in the USA), then they are most a non-violent quit group. Once they grow in number they complain about everything, demand more and then seek to overthrow the host country.

As Muslim population grows, what can happen to a society? - National Homeland Security | Examiner.com

What happens to society's as the Muslim population grows in percentage of the total?

In the book, Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat, written by Dr. Peter Hammond, he explores the topic of the impact that an increasing Muslim population has on that society. The lists below illustrate the Muslim population status of countries around the world, and exactly what changes to the societies can be expected according to Hammond.

The book as well as the author are controversial, but the topic is definitely something that needs to be explored and understood. From the book:

< 2%:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

2% - 5%: ==> Issues state at as small as 2%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

5% - 10%:

They exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the
population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.

This is occurring in:
France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

10% - 20%:

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.

Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

20% - 30%:

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

40% - 60%:

nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

From 60%-80%:

nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions(including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%
Lebanon -- Muslim 75%

After 80% - 99%:

expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 99.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

Finally at 100%:

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

Continue reading on Examiner.com: As Muslim population grows, what can happen to a society? - National Homeland Security | Examiner.com As Muslim population grows, what can happen to a society? - National Homeland Security | Examiner.com

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

"...undertaken for the sake of Islam," precluding acts that violate its tenets from being considered "jihad".

I'm not sure why some of you seem to delight in making Islam seem as diabolical as you possibly can.

So what would the Quran call an precluded act ?

Still hoping for an answer.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Consider that radical islam did not exist 40 years ago.

Consider that our allies are mostly the places where radical islam is practiced.

If we were really concerned about radical islam, IRAN would be our ally.

Because the radical Wahhabists hate the Shia even more than they hate the Jews and Christians.

Wahhabists HATE secular governments, modernity and want to impose Sharia on the entire world.

Where are they from?

Saudi Arabia.

Wake up and smell the conspiracy, folks.

This has got to be a huge joke.

I have said many times, what was common knowledge 100 years ago is lost in the sea of history and political correctness.

These things being so, the recrudescence of Islam, the possibility
of that terror under which we lived for centuries reappearing, and of our
civilization again fighting for its life against what was its chief enemy
for a thousand years, seems fantastic. Who in the Mohammedan world today
can manufacture and maintain the complicated instruments of modern war?
Where is the political machinery whereby the religion of Islam can play an
equal part in the modern world?

I say the suggestion that Islam may re-arise sounds fantastic_but
this is only because men are always powerfully affected by the immediate
past:_one might say that they are blinded by it.

http://www.ewtn.com/library/HOMELIBR/HERESY4.TXT
The Great Heresies

By Hilaire Belloc
1938

The Great Heresies, by Hilaire Belloc

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Islam is not compatible with Western Democracy. I have been saying this for a long time. Some in the West are still living in denial over this. Many are waking up though. It's a real dilemma for those Western European Nations who took so many Muslims in with their wide open Immigration policies. There will be a reckoning for these countries at some point. They can't ignore this real problem forever.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Consider that radical islam did not exist 40 years ago.

Consider that our allies are mostly the places where radical islam is practiced.

If we were really concerned about radical islam, IRAN would be our ally.

Because the radical Wahhabists hate the Shia even more than they hate the Jews and Christians.

Wahhabists HATE secular governments, modernity and want to impose Sharia on the entire world.

Where are they from?

Saudi Arabia.

Wake up and smell the conspiracy, folks.

This has got to be a huge joke.

I have said many times, what was common knowledge 100 years ago is lost in the sea of history and political correctness.

These things being so, the recrudescence of Islam, the possibility
of that terror under which we lived for centuries reappearing, and of our
civilization again fighting for its life against what was its chief enemy
for a thousand years, seems fantastic. Who in the Mohammedan world today
can manufacture and maintain the complicated instruments of modern war?
Where is the political machinery whereby the religion of Islam can play an
equal part in the modern world?

I say the suggestion that Islam may re-arise sounds fantastic_but
this is only because men are always powerfully affected by the immediate
past:_one might say that they are blinded by it.

http://www.ewtn.com/library/HOMELIBR/HERESY4.TXT
The Great Heresies

By Hilaire Belloc
1938

The Great Heresies, by Hilaire Belloc

 

[gautama]

Demographic jihad.

I am doing the best I can in populating the earth with muslim children.

Especially enjoy the process of creating them........

Phoni-Baloni-Sunni,

And a MONUMENTAL FUCK YOU to you for perpetrating ISLAM, an ABOMINATION unto Mankind.

Shame on you, you Muslim Farthead.

 

[Sunni Man]

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[Ropey]

For a bit of levity because attacking someones children is simply a sickness.