Muslim Brotherhood in the USA

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    Brotherhood’s motto ​
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    “I’m asking about the Muslim Brotherhood, the organization that has tirelessly, and in many cases quite courageously, campaigned in elections, it has campaigned against the government, it has campaigned on behalf of the poor in Egypt. It has a long, long history in that country. What role should it have now?”
    Is CNN re-branding the Muslim Brotherhood?

    This internal Muslim Brotherhood statement dated May 22, 1991 was written by an acolyte of the Brotherhood's major theoretician, lionized Qatari cleric, popular Al-Jazeera television personality, and head of the European Fatwa Council Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi. Entitled "An Explanatory Memorandum On the General Strategic Goal for the Group In North America," the document is indeed self-explanatory.

    The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and by the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions.

    American Thinker: The Grand Jihad

    [T]his grand-jihad-by-sabotage has been underway for nearly a half century. Its bottom-up elements have stressed Islamist domination of Muslim education, community centers, and mosques. That means it is now raising, in our midst, its third generation of operatives and sympathizers.

    The Grand Jihad | FrontPage Magazine

    Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Andrew C. McCarthy, a senior fellow at the National Review Institute and a columnist for National Review. His book Willful Blindness: A Memoir of the Jihad (Encounter Books, 2008), has recently been released in paperback with a new preface. Check out a description from Encounter Books. His newly released book, which has just become a New York Times bestseller, is The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America.
     
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    Banna was a practical revolutionary. On the one hand, he instructed his votaries to prepare for violence. They had to understand that, in the end — when the time was right, when the Brotherhood was finally strong enough that violent attacks would more likely achieve Ikhwan objectives than provoke crippling blowback — violence would surely be necessary to complete the revolution (meaning, to institute sharia, Islam’s legal-political framework)

    . Meanwhile, on the other hand, he taught that the Brothers should take whatever they could get from the regime, the political system, the legal system, and the culture. He shrewdly realized that, if the Brothers did not overplay their hand, if they duped the media, the intelligentsia, and the public into seeing them as fighters for social justice, these institutions would be apt to make substantial concessions. Appeasement, he knew, is often a society’s first response to a threat it does not wish to believe is existential.
     
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    Is there no discernible difference between 'Muslim' and 'Jihadist' and 'Terrorist'?
     
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    Sure there is there is a difference between a Muslim and a believer according to Islamic tradition.
    Not all terrorist are muslims.
    Jihad, well Ill let others speak


    Noble Qur’an 2:190 Footnote: “Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah’s Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite.”


    The passage itself can be found in two places. It is on page "39" ( my copy)of the Noble Qur’an translation by Muhammad Khan and distributed by “King Fahd Complex for the Printing of the Holy Qur’an—The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques. It is a footnote to Qur’an 2.190 and is designed to explain Jihad according to Allah as this is the first time the word is used, explaining the concept of jihad as it was taught and used at the time of the "prophet" .
    And it can be found on page 580 of the Islamic University of Medina’s translation of Sahih al-Bukhari’s Hadith. There it opens Bukhari’s Book of Jihad.

    In both cases, the Islamic scholars are condensing Allah’s and Muhammad’s teachings on Jihad to a single paragraph.
     
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    I've done no research on this but I understood that jihad referred more to a concept of struggle, not necessarily armed struggle but everyday struggle to uphold Islamic principles and ideals.
     
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    What is the difference between a Muslim and a believer?
     
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    You do realize that Allah is the same god Christians and Jews worship right?

    And where in any Muslim brotherhood they say they hate freedom? They actually support a free democracy and no violations of human rights.

    But yes use conservative publications to attack a peaceful moderate muslims because they are those damn muslims.
     
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    Mien Kamph means" my struggle" or" my jihad " a best seller in Islamic countries.
    Id say you have an opinion on this and have not done much research .
    Mohammad struggle was psychical .

    Shirk is worse than Killing

    Since Jihad involves killing and shedding the blood of men, Allah indicated that these men are committing disbelief in Allah, associating with Him (in the worship) and hindering from His path, and this is a much greater evil and more disastrous than killing. Abu Malik commented about what Allah said:

    [وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ]

    (And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) Meaning what you (disbelievers) are committing is much worse than killing.'' Abu Al-`Aliyah, Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, `Ikrimah, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that what Allah said:

    [وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ]

    (And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) "Shirk (polytheism) is worse than killing.''
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    No.
    Yahweh is gods proper name according to the Hebrew.
    in arabic ilah is God .
    allah is the god.

    Fighting the Jews and Christians is legislated because They are Idolators and Disbelievers

    Allah the Exalted encourages the believers to fight the polytheists, disbelieving Jews and Christians, who uttered this terrible statement and utter lies against Allah, the Exalted. As for the Jews, they claimed that `Uzayr was the son of God, Allah is free of what they attribute to Him. As for the misguidance of Christians over `Isa, it is obvious. This is why Allah declared both groups to be liars,

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    Are you referring to me?
    I am genuinely interested in looking beyond the slogans of both sides.
    Don't fling links at me, educate me.
     
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