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Because *you* seem to have this misguided idea that rights are unlimited
So, if I'm to extrapolate from your assertion...
That means you have the idea that rights should be regulated? Please by all means correct me if I'm wrong.
Regulated? If that is what you call placing limitations on rights, then yes.
I do not believe the right of free speech means you can slander, libel or create public panic.
I do not believe the right to freedom of religion should include forcing those religious values on anyone else.
I do not believe the right to assembly includes leading lynch mob.
All of our rights have limitations.
Do you think they should be unlimited?
Forcing beliefs on another. That is what many groups and even the government has been doing. Religion is nothing but a belief system, we all follow a religion of some sort.
Definition of religion
: the belief in a god or in a group of gods
: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods
: an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group
So forcing beliefs on another is wrong and this is my issue with many of the government laws forcing people to accept others beliefs.
It's the religious people trying to force others to accept their beliefs. They are using religion to try to write themselves their own set of laws without regard to the constitution.
Because *you* seem to have this misguided idea that rights are unlimited
So, if I'm to extrapolate from your assertion...
That means you have the idea that rights should be regulated? Please by all means correct me if I'm wrong.
Regulated? If that is what you call placing limitations on rights, then yes.
I do not believe the right of free speech means you can slander, libel or create public panic.
I do not believe the right to freedom of religion should include forcing those religious values on anyone else.
I do not believe the right to assembly includes leading lynch mob.
All of our rights have limitations.
Do you think they should be unlimited?
Forcing beliefs on another. That is what many groups and even the government has been doing. Religion is nothing but a belief system, we all follow a religion of some sort.
Definition of religion
: the belief in a god or in a group of gods
: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods
: an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group
So forcing beliefs on another is wrong and this is my issue with many of the government laws forcing people to accept others beliefs.
It's the religious people trying to force others to accept their beliefs. They are using religion to try to write themselves their own set of laws without regard to the constitution.
Because *you* seem to have this misguided idea that rights are unlimited
So, if I'm to extrapolate from your assertion...
That means you have the idea that rights should be regulated? Please by all means correct me if I'm wrong.
Regulated? If that is what you call placing limitations on rights, then yes.
I do not believe the right of free speech means you can slander, libel or create public panic.
I do not believe the right to freedom of religion should include forcing those religious values on anyone else.
I do not believe the right to assembly includes leading lynch mob.
All of our rights have limitations.
Do you think they should be unlimited?
Forcing beliefs on another. That is what many groups and even the government has been doing. Religion is nothing but a belief system, we all follow a religion of some sort.
Definition of religion
: the belief in a god or in a group of gods
: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods
: an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group
So forcing beliefs on another is wrong and this is my issue with many of the government laws forcing people to accept others beliefs.
It's the religious people trying to force others to accept their beliefs. They are using religion to try to write themselves their own set of laws without regard to the constitution.
Really? Examples?
I see that you insult instead of debate civilly too. Speaking of dodging...notice how Kaz claims to have answered my question about what she is doing to get rid of PA laws in her state....and yet cannot show me where she made that answer. Perhaps you've seen it and can point it out to me? Be a pal and point it out.And why do you have to be rude? What is it exactly you are doing to get rid of PA laws in your state? Tell us.Then work to get rid of PA laws.
I am you stupid dyke, how many times do I need to explain that to you? Do you have a learning disability? Do you have a learning disability? Do you have a learning disability? Do you have a learning disability? Did I ask you that question before? No?
Oh, and I do apologize if you have told us in the past....I've missed it....could you link or point out where you did so?
He's rude because you're a dingbat who refuses to give a straight answer to a straight question. Dodging, dancing and weaseling and running away are your stock in trade.
Every time you ask me what protesting I'm doing, I tell you I think that people need to be persuaded, not have some dumb ass like you, Seahag and the Florida bitch scream in their face. I tell you that over and over and over and over and over, and you keep coming back with assigning me the task of grabbing a sign and acting like a jackass like you and your liberal brethren following Trump, Scott and other Republicans around. Then again our goal is different. I want to change minds. You want to intimidate your opposition into silence.
Then you say I haven't answered your question? You are one ... stupid ... dyke. When you process my answer and incorporate my answer into your rhetoric rather than ignoring it like a gnat, then you can whine if I'm rude. And unlike you, I have actually changed minds. A lot of people both on boards and in real life who never questioned things like income taxes and government marriage have told me they are at least open to that now. You've persuaded no one, just silenced them
Its a cake people, there lots of bakeries. Find one that wants to make it, pay for it and eat it already.
I can sympathize with being rebuffed. A wedding is a huge deal and it's an emotional deal. It's an even huger deal when it's something that's been long denied to you. You should be able to have a reasonable expectation of being treated like any other customer looking for the same product. Now if the person went looking for a refusal, I'd have no sympathy but that isn't the case in the Oregon case.
Making a purchase in a retail store is different than having someone cater an event. It was the event the baker objected to.
No, it's not. Catering an event is like putting a roof on someone's house, or mowing their lawn.
You can't discriminate.
I do not have to mow everyone's lawn that comes asking.
Irrelevant, but the biggest crime against your fellow citizens are the cases where photographers were forced to witness and photograph fag weddings and kisses, that is sick
And still those cases lost in court.
Why are anti gay photographers any different than racist ones that are repulsed by interracial couples?
They aren't, no photographer should be forced to work an interracial wedding either or any other wedding for any other reason they want. We are citizens, not subjects. Find a photographer who wants to work the wedding, most people do. And you know that's my view, which is why I'm insulting you and your dyke buddy at this point. You keep ignoring my view you know well and asking your same stupid questions again.
Last thing I'd have wanted at my interracial wedding 27 years ago was a photographer who didn't want to be there. Yeah, I'm going to get their best work. That you do want someone who doesn't want to be there is just your authoritarian leftism, it's about power, not right.
And seriously, baking the cake? Gee, I spilled the flour on the floor, better get the broom and dustpan and sweep that up. Looks OK to me though, don't want to waste it. Hmmm...maybe we can put in half the sugar, that would taste great. Ooops, I made too much icing, better lick off the extra.
Yeah, you eat that cake ...
So you should concentrate your efforts on the CRA not little state and local laws.
Where are all the threads about how "unfair" PA laws are to racist Christians instead of just anti gay ones?
Who did you write that post to? My position has consistently been that anyone can discriminate to any other citizen for any reason they choose. "Christian" makes no difference to me. I'm not a Christian. You'd know that if you had a long term memory, I've told you that many times.
Again, wouldn't arguing my actual views be more interesting? You just have one set of talking points and that's all you want to use? When the only tool in your belt is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
And still those cases lost in court.
Why are anti gay photographers any different than racist ones that are repulsed by interracial couples?
They aren't, no photographer should be forced to work an interracial wedding either or any other wedding for any other reason they want. We are citizens, not subjects. Find a photographer who wants to work the wedding, most people do. And you know that's my view, which is why I'm insulting you and your dyke buddy at this point. You keep ignoring my view you know well and asking your same stupid questions again.
Last thing I'd have wanted at my interracial wedding 27 years ago was a photographer who didn't want to be there. Yeah, I'm going to get their best work. That you do want someone who doesn't want to be there is just your authoritarian leftism, it's about power, not right.
And seriously, baking the cake? Gee, I spilled the flour on the floor, better get the broom and dustpan and sweep that up. Looks OK to me though, don't want to waste it. Hmmm...maybe we can put in half the sugar, that would taste great. Ooops, I made too much icing, better lick off the extra.
Yeah, you eat that cake ...
So you should concentrate your efforts on the CRA not little state and local laws.
Where are all the threads about how "unfair" PA laws are to racist Christians instead of just anti gay ones?
Who did you write that post to? My position has consistently been that anyone can discriminate to any other citizen for any reason they choose. "Christian" makes no difference to me. I'm not a Christian. You'd know that if you had a long term memory, I've told you that many times.
Again, wouldn't arguing my actual views be more interesting? You just have one set of talking points and that's all you want to use? When the only tool in your belt is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
Gawd. you're the dyke, guy, stop crying. Here's a hanky. Feel like a man now?
They aren't, no photographer should be forced to work an interracial wedding either or any other wedding for any other reason they want. We are citizens, not subjects. Find a photographer who wants to work the wedding, most people do. And you know that's my view, which is why I'm insulting you and your dyke buddy at this point. You keep ignoring my view you know well and asking your same stupid questions again.
Last thing I'd have wanted at my interracial wedding 27 years ago was a photographer who didn't want to be there. Yeah, I'm going to get their best work. That you do want someone who doesn't want to be there is just your authoritarian leftism, it's about power, not right.
And seriously, baking the cake? Gee, I spilled the flour on the floor, better get the broom and dustpan and sweep that up. Looks OK to me though, don't want to waste it. Hmmm...maybe we can put in half the sugar, that would taste great. Ooops, I made too much icing, better lick off the extra.
Yeah, you eat that cake ...
So you should concentrate your efforts on the CRA not little state and local laws.
Where are all the threads about how "unfair" PA laws are to racist Christians instead of just anti gay ones?
Who did you write that post to? My position has consistently been that anyone can discriminate to any other citizen for any reason they choose. "Christian" makes no difference to me. I'm not a Christian. You'd know that if you had a long term memory, I've told you that many times.
Again, wouldn't arguing my actual views be more interesting? You just have one set of talking points and that's all you want to use? When the only tool in your belt is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
Gawd. you're the dyke, guy, stop crying. Here's a hanky. Feel like a man now?
The whine suits you, you wear it well, sniveler.
Poor Kaz, full of illusions of having answered questions....And still those cases lost in court.
Why are anti gay photographers any different than racist ones that are repulsed by interracial couples?
They aren't, no photographer should be forced to work an interracial wedding either or any other wedding for any other reason they want. We are citizens, not subjects. Find a photographer who wants to work the wedding, most people do. And you know that's my view, which is why I'm insulting you and your dyke buddy at this point. You keep ignoring my view you know well and asking your same stupid questions again.
Last thing I'd have wanted at my interracial wedding 27 years ago was a photographer who didn't want to be there. Yeah, I'm going to get their best work. That you do want someone who doesn't want to be there is just your authoritarian leftism, it's about power, not right.
And seriously, baking the cake? Gee, I spilled the flour on the floor, better get the broom and dustpan and sweep that up. Looks OK to me though, don't want to waste it. Hmmm...maybe we can put in half the sugar, that would taste great. Ooops, I made too much icing, better lick off the extra.
Yeah, you eat that cake ...
So you should concentrate your efforts on the CRA not little state and local laws.
Where are all the threads about how "unfair" PA laws are to racist Christians instead of just anti gay ones?
Who did you write that post to? My position has consistently been that anyone can discriminate to any other citizen for any reason they choose. "Christian" makes no difference to me. I'm not a Christian. You'd know that if you had a long term memory, I've told you that many times.
Again, wouldn't arguing my actual views be more interesting? You just have one set of talking points and that's all you want to use? When the only tool in your belt is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
Gawd. you're the dyke, guy, stop crying. Here's a hanky. Feel like a man now?
Poor Kaz, full of illusions of having answered questions....They aren't, no photographer should be forced to work an interracial wedding either or any other wedding for any other reason they want. We are citizens, not subjects. Find a photographer who wants to work the wedding, most people do. And you know that's my view, which is why I'm insulting you and your dyke buddy at this point. You keep ignoring my view you know well and asking your same stupid questions again.
Last thing I'd have wanted at my interracial wedding 27 years ago was a photographer who didn't want to be there. Yeah, I'm going to get their best work. That you do want someone who doesn't want to be there is just your authoritarian leftism, it's about power, not right.
And seriously, baking the cake? Gee, I spilled the flour on the floor, better get the broom and dustpan and sweep that up. Looks OK to me though, don't want to waste it. Hmmm...maybe we can put in half the sugar, that would taste great. Ooops, I made too much icing, better lick off the extra.
Yeah, you eat that cake ...
So you should concentrate your efforts on the CRA not little state and local laws.
Where are all the threads about how "unfair" PA laws are to racist Christians instead of just anti gay ones?
Who did you write that post to? My position has consistently been that anyone can discriminate to any other citizen for any reason they choose. "Christian" makes no difference to me. I'm not a Christian. You'd know that if you had a long term memory, I've told you that many times.
Again, wouldn't arguing my actual views be more interesting? You just have one set of talking points and that's all you want to use? When the only tool in your belt is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
Gawd. you're the dyke, guy, stop crying. Here's a hanky. Feel like a man now?
That's all they know what to do....imagine if we had behaved the same way instead of actually organizing and affecting change?They aren't, no photographer should be forced to work an interracial wedding either or any other wedding for any other reason they want. We are citizens, not subjects. Find a photographer who wants to work the wedding, most people do. And you know that's my view, which is why I'm insulting you and your dyke buddy at this point. You keep ignoring my view you know well and asking your same stupid questions again.
Last thing I'd have wanted at my interracial wedding 27 years ago was a photographer who didn't want to be there. Yeah, I'm going to get their best work. That you do want someone who doesn't want to be there is just your authoritarian leftism, it's about power, not right.
And seriously, baking the cake? Gee, I spilled the flour on the floor, better get the broom and dustpan and sweep that up. Looks OK to me though, don't want to waste it. Hmmm...maybe we can put in half the sugar, that would taste great. Ooops, I made too much icing, better lick off the extra.
Yeah, you eat that cake ...
So you should concentrate your efforts on the CRA not little state and local laws.
Where are all the threads about how "unfair" PA laws are to racist Christians instead of just anti gay ones?
Who did you write that post to? My position has consistently been that anyone can discriminate to any other citizen for any reason they choose. "Christian" makes no difference to me. I'm not a Christian. You'd know that if you had a long term memory, I've told you that many times.
Again, wouldn't arguing my actual views be more interesting? You just have one set of talking points and that's all you want to use? When the only tool in your belt is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
Gawd. you're the dyke, guy, stop crying. Here's a hanky. Feel like a man now?
The whine suits you, you wear it well, sniveler.
Awwww....feeling picked on by the big bad gays?Poor Kaz, full of illusions of having answered questions....So you should concentrate your efforts on the CRA not little state and local laws.
Where are all the threads about how "unfair" PA laws are to racist Christians instead of just anti gay ones?
Who did you write that post to? My position has consistently been that anyone can discriminate to any other citizen for any reason they choose. "Christian" makes no difference to me. I'm not a Christian. You'd know that if you had a long term memory, I've told you that many times.
Again, wouldn't arguing my actual views be more interesting? You just have one set of talking points and that's all you want to use? When the only tool in your belt is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
Gawd. you're the dyke, guy, stop crying. Here's a hanky. Feel like a man now?
Tag team dyking are you?
That's all they know what to do....imagine if we had behaved the same way instead of actually organizing and affecting change?So you should concentrate your efforts on the CRA not little state and local laws.
Where are all the threads about how "unfair" PA laws are to racist Christians instead of just anti gay ones?
Who did you write that post to? My position has consistently been that anyone can discriminate to any other citizen for any reason they choose. "Christian" makes no difference to me. I'm not a Christian. You'd know that if you had a long term memory, I've told you that many times.
Again, wouldn't arguing my actual views be more interesting? You just have one set of talking points and that's all you want to use? When the only tool in your belt is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
Gawd. you're the dyke, guy, stop crying. Here's a hanky. Feel like a man now?
The whine suits you, you wear it well, sniveler.
Awwww....feeling picked on by the big bad gays?Poor Kaz, full of illusions of having answered questions....
Who did you write that post to? My position has consistently been that anyone can discriminate to any other citizen for any reason they choose. "Christian" makes no difference to me. I'm not a Christian. You'd know that if you had a long term memory, I've told you that many times.
Again, wouldn't arguing my actual views be more interesting? You just have one set of talking points and that's all you want to use? When the only tool in your belt is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
Gawd. you're the dyke, guy, stop crying. Here's a hanky. Feel like a man now?
Tag team dyking are you?
Your concern is so touching, but I'm great thanks. You seem a little upset though. Call me a stupid dyke, that always makes you feel like a man and you seem to need that right now. Go ahead, I can take it.So you should concentrate your efforts on the CRA not little state and local laws.
Where are all the threads about how "unfair" PA laws are to racist Christians instead of just anti gay ones?
Who did you write that post to? My position has consistently been that anyone can discriminate to any other citizen for any reason they choose. "Christian" makes no difference to me. I'm not a Christian. You'd know that if you had a long term memory, I've told you that many times.
Again, wouldn't arguing my actual views be more interesting? You just have one set of talking points and that's all you want to use? When the only tool in your belt is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
Gawd. you're the dyke, guy, stop crying. Here's a hanky. Feel like a man now?
The whine suits you, you wear it well, sniveler.
Maybe you should go play until you calm down. Breathe into a bag if you have to
That's all they know what to do....imagine if we had behaved the same way instead of actually organizing and affecting change?So you should concentrate your efforts on the CRA not little state and local laws.
Where are all the threads about how "unfair" PA laws are to racist Christians instead of just anti gay ones?
Who did you write that post to? My position has consistently been that anyone can discriminate to any other citizen for any reason they choose. "Christian" makes no difference to me. I'm not a Christian. You'd know that if you had a long term memory, I've told you that many times.
Again, wouldn't arguing my actual views be more interesting? You just have one set of talking points and that's all you want to use? When the only tool in your belt is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
Gawd. you're the dyke, guy, stop crying. Here's a hanky. Feel like a man now?
The whine suits you, you wear it well, sniveler.
Your concern is so touching, but I'm great thanks. You seem a little upset though. Call me a stupid dyke, that always makes you feel like a man and you seem to need that right now. Go ahead, I can take it.
Who did you write that post to? My position has consistently been that anyone can discriminate to any other citizen for any reason they choose. "Christian" makes no difference to me. I'm not a Christian. You'd know that if you had a long term memory, I've told you that many times.
Again, wouldn't arguing my actual views be more interesting? You just have one set of talking points and that's all you want to use? When the only tool in your belt is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
Gawd. you're the dyke, guy, stop crying. Here's a hanky. Feel like a man now?
The whine suits you, you wear it well, sniveler.
Maybe you should go play until you calm down. Breathe into a bag if you have to
That's all they know what to do....imagine if we had behaved the same way instead of actually organizing and affecting change?
Who did you write that post to? My position has consistently been that anyone can discriminate to any other citizen for any reason they choose. "Christian" makes no difference to me. I'm not a Christian. You'd know that if you had a long term memory, I've told you that many times.
Again, wouldn't arguing my actual views be more interesting? You just have one set of talking points and that's all you want to use? When the only tool in your belt is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
Gawd. you're the dyke, guy, stop crying. Here's a hanky. Feel like a man now?
The whine suits you, you wear it well, sniveler.
Oh, but he's "educating" people. He educates all his friends about the evils of the civil marriage he entered into and he imparts all his glorious wisdom on us poor stupid dykes here on a message board. He's doing stuff, man!
That's all they know what to do....imagine if we had behaved the same way instead of actually organizing and affecting change?Yes, we know by your whining...not by your actions.
Good luck with your whining, it's so effective.
Gawd. you're the dyke, guy, stop crying. Here's a hanky. Feel like a man now?
The whine suits you, you wear it well, sniveler.
Oh, but he's "educating" people. He educates all his friends about the evils of the civil marriage he entered into and he imparts all his glorious wisdom on us poor stupid dykes here on a message board. He's doing stuff, man!
Strawman. I never said I educate stupid dykes. You are uneducatable. That's why you scream at people and attack them to subdue them
