MSM It's Not Just A US Perception Problem

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  1. Annie
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    Seems Britain and Germany share our belief in a free press and the problems we have with our press today:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7134918.stm

    All results including some good graphs:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/10_12_07_worldservicepoll.pdf
     
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    In America today, conservative MSM is mostly a corporate tool. Witness the lead up to Iraq. A particular telling instance of how bad American media has become is the situation in New Orleans after Katrina. Does anyone really hear about the true situation there? Does corporate media care for the poor.

    I think the wide diversity of media today also works against it being a means of common social knowledge. We used to live in neighborhoods, we watched one of three major broadcast networks, we shared a common bond, all that is lost in suburban-land car-ville.

    Anyone hear about that Katrina storm - or should I ask, any one hear about its aftermath.

    http://www.justiceforneworleans.org/

    http://www.gregpalast.com/“they-wanted-them-poor-*******-out-of-there”/
     
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    Conservative MSM? Where's that rolling-on-the-floor-dying-of-a-heart-attack emoticon?:cuckoo:
     
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    Free press is a double-edged sword. Where there is journalistic integrity, a free press is a powerful (possibly as powerful as the ballot box) tool and valued part of a democracy.

    Unfortunately, journalistic integrity these days is becoming an oxymoron.

    Many of the major news organisations are politically biased one way or the other. The internet has given political activists a venue through which they can promote agendas by disguising their manifestos as bone fide news items and much of the public, poor saps, believe them.

    Anyone remember when the Internet was born? It was supposed to herald an information age where everyone would have, at their fingertips, the facts about any issue they cared to investigate. In a way, it has, but how does one separate the wheat from the chaff?

    Global Warming is a classic example. Spew out a lot of statistics, carefully edited, and prove that the polar icecaps are melting and it's our fault. Take the same statistics, cut them another way, adjust the confidence index and the sample, and prove exactly the opposite. Which does one believe? The one with the most support? The one with the most credible scientists behind it? Or the one the media reports most?

    Even with all those caveats though, I'll take a free press over a 'stable society' any day of the week. Plenty of the most barbarous regimes around the world have appeared to be 'stable', but only those with a genuinely free press could truly be said to be free.
     
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    You and I confirm the findings! :rofl: :rofl:
     
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    Liberals protestations to the contrary, it's been evident for many years how the MSM continually slants to the left.

    What does seem to be new is a pattern of reporting lies that are easily proven false. Now this is not about TNR's problem with one soldier, no this is 6 stories in less than 6 weeks, with no light of day. The list includes TIME, Reporters Without Borders (and other Western Media that chose to report their report), AP, Reuters, etc:

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/12/its-quagmire-media-reports-6-bogus.html
     
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    Except for Faux/Fox news MSM is fairly balanced but leans more conservative than liberal today. I think it has to as the right wignuts have a strong base of hard core believers. Witness many of the posters on USMB. CNN for instance includes several conservatives in prime time shows, you cannot say the same about Faux news.

    How did media become more conservative? Forty years of bashing it as (biased) liberal has helped, but also it the human penchant to avoid controversy or to want to appear fair and balanced. Media income is based on its advertisement revenue, does any company want to be associated with controversy? or even complexity. On-line material 'sometimes' tells the truth.



    http://mediamatters.org/items/200608030006
    survey of readership
    http://people-press.org/reports/tables/282.pdf
     
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    The media isn't so much "right" or "left" as it is Jewish. That explains why it would tilt liberal on domestic issues, and why it would lead us to war in the Middle East.

    http://www.natvan.com/who-rules-america/

    I was talking about this with a relative recently, and she actually said, "But I haven't seen anything about this so-called Jewish control of the media."

    Um, right...
     
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    Media matters, who they are:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters

    As for the PEW poll, it's nothing more than data, there's no methodology, no conclusion regarding squat.

    That is your response to peer reviewed studies. I thought you a brighter :idea:
     
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    Further to my earlier post, that's a good example of someone disguising a manifesto as a news item. And of course it doesn't take much Googling to come up with the other side of the coin.

    http://counterpunch.com/solomon05082006.html

    http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200404280855.asp

    http://discardedlies.com/entry/?25810_

    Tell your relative that if he / she googles "US Media", "Jewish Influence", it's possible to find enough articles to stoke many a heated debate. Here's a starter...

    http://www.compuserb.com/mediain1.htm

    One thing about the internet. It does allow people to have the convenience of an opinion without the inconvenience of having to think.
     

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