More bad poll news for the k00ks!!!

[skookerasbil]

I love this place..........far more of a hoot even than the POLITICS forum. Here........its like they plant their face right on a big baseball tee for you, hand you the bat and say, "BATTER UP!!!!"!!

 

[RollingThunder]

So, what's up with that Himilayan glacier lie?

Why do these global warming weirdos constantly get caught lying about their data and such?

And another clueless dupe of the fossil fuel industry's propaganda campaign spews more lies and spin.

It is one of your denier cult myths that climate scientists have been "caught lying about their data".

Some minor mistakes were discovered and corrected. A very common occurrence in scientific research.

Himalayan Melting: How a Climate Panel Got It Wrong

It's still not clear exactly how the error made it into the IPCC's assessment, though climate scientists point out that the document was thousands of pages long and that the Himalaya claim wasn't included in the summary of the report, which was boiled down for policymakers and received the most attention from reviewers. "Honest mistakes do happen," admits Benjamin Santer, a climate modeler at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. "The bulk of the science is clear and compelling and rests on multiple lines of evidence," he says, not just one case.

Indeed, while Himalayan ice will almost certainly still be here in 2035, it is definitely melting — and that will have a serious impact on the billions of people in Asia who depend at least partially on Himalayan meltwater. Yao Tandong, head of China's Institute of Tibetan Plateau Research, has done on-the-ground research on the Chinese side of the Himalayas — the world's biggest collection of ice outside the two poles — and reported last year that by the end of the century, as much as 70% of the mountain range's glaciers could disappear. And far from providing evidence against climate change, nearly all alpine glaciers worldwide that have been tracked have shown significant melting over the past several decades — often documented in photographs. "It's happening globally, in Europe, North America, China and the Himalayas," says Lonnie Thompson, a glacier expert at Ohio State University. "More than 90% of the world's glaciers are retreating. Glaciers have no political agenda."


United States Geological Survey - Glaciers Retreating in Asia
8/25/2010

Many of Asia's glaciers are retreating as a result of climate change. This retreat impacts water supplies to millions of people, increases the likelihood of outburst floods that threaten life and property in nearby areas, and contributes to sea level rise.

“Of particular interest are the Himalaya, where glacier behavior impacts the quality of life of tens of millions of people,” said USGS scientist Jane Ferrigno. “Glaciers in the Himalaya are a major source of fresh water and supply meltwater to all of the rivers in northern India.”

As glaciers become smaller, water runoff decreases, which is especially important during the dry season when other water sources are limited. Climate change also brings warmer temperatures and earlier water runoff from glaciers, and this combined with spring and summer rains can result in flood conditions. The overall glacier retreat and additional melt can increase the amount of water dammed in the vicinity of a glacier, and the added pressure enhances the likelihood of disastrous outburst flooding.

In Bhutan, 66 glaciers have decreased 8.1 percent over the last 30 years. Rapid changes in the Himalaya is shown in India by the 12 percent retreat of Chhota Shigri Glacier during the last 13 years, as well as retreat of the Gangotri Glacier since 1780, with 12 percent shrinkage of the main stem in the last 16 years.


***

 

[westwall]

So, what's up with that Himilayan glacier lie?

Why do these global warming weirdos constantly get caught lying about their data and such?

And another clueless dupe of the fossil fuel industry's propaganda campaign spews more lies and spin.

It is one of your denier cult myths that climate scientists have been "caught lying about their data".

Some minor mistakes were discovered and corrected. A very common occurrence in scientific research.

Himalayan Melting: How a Climate Panel Got It Wrong

It's still not clear exactly how the error made it into the IPCC's assessment, though climate scientists point out that the document was thousands of pages long and that the Himalaya claim wasn't included in the summary of the report, which was boiled down for policymakers and received the most attention from reviewers. "Honest mistakes do happen," admits Benjamin Santer, a climate modeler at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. "The bulk of the science is clear and compelling and rests on multiple lines of evidence," he says, not just one case.

Indeed, while Himalayan ice will almost certainly still be here in 2035, it is definitely melting — and that will have a serious impact on the billions of people in Asia who depend at least partially on Himalayan meltwater. Yao Tandong, head of China's Institute of Tibetan Plateau Research, has done on-the-ground research on the Chinese side of the Himalayas — the world's biggest collection of ice outside the two poles — and reported last year that by the end of the century, as much as 70% of the mountain range's glaciers could disappear. And far from providing evidence against climate change, nearly all alpine glaciers worldwide that have been tracked have shown significant melting over the past several decades — often documented in photographs. "It's happening globally, in Europe, North America, China and the Himalayas," says Lonnie Thompson, a glacier expert at Ohio State University. "More than 90% of the world's glaciers are retreating. Glaciers have no political agenda."


United States Geological Survey - Glaciers Retreating in Asia
8/25/2010

Many of Asia's glaciers are retreating as a result of climate change. This retreat impacts water supplies to millions of people, increases the likelihood of outburst floods that threaten life and property in nearby areas, and contributes to sea level rise.

“Of particular interest are the Himalaya, where glacier behavior impacts the quality of life of tens of millions of people,” said USGS scientist Jane Ferrigno. “Glaciers in the Himalaya are a major source of fresh water and supply meltwater to all of the rivers in northern India.”

As glaciers become smaller, water runoff decreases, which is especially important during the dry season when other water sources are limited. Climate change also brings warmer temperatures and earlier water runoff from glaciers, and this combined with spring and summer rains can result in flood conditions. The overall glacier retreat and additional melt can increase the amount of water dammed in the vicinity of a glacier, and the added pressure enhances the likelihood of disastrous outburst flooding.

In Bhutan, 66 glaciers have decreased 8.1 percent over the last 30 years. Rapid changes in the Himalaya is shown in India by the 12 percent retreat of Chhota Shigri Glacier during the last 13 years, as well as retreat of the Gangotri Glacier since 1780, with 12 percent shrinkage of the main stem in the last 16 years.


***

BATTER UP!

http://www.usgs.gov/features/glaciers.html

Some Himalayan glaciers are advancing rather than melting, study finds - Telegraph

Glaciers Advancing or Retreating?, Alaska Science Forum

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Himal...espite-global-warming/H1-Article1-654581.aspx

Some Himalayan glaciers advancing: study › News in Science (ABC Science)

SwissEduc: Glaciers Online - Glaciers of the World

And its out of the park!

 

[Wicked Jester]

So, what's up with that Himilayan glacier lie?

Why do these global warming weirdos constantly get caught lying about their data and such?

And another clueless dupe of the fossil fuel industry's propaganda campaign spews more lies and spin.

It is one of your denier cult myths that climate scientists have been "caught lying about their data".

Some minor mistakes were discovered and corrected. A very common occurrence in scientific research.

Himalayan Melting: How a Climate Panel Got It Wrong

It's still not clear exactly how the error made it into the IPCC's assessment, though climate scientists point out that the document was thousands of pages long and that the Himalaya claim wasn't included in the summary of the report, which was boiled down for policymakers and received the most attention from reviewers. "Honest mistakes do happen," admits Benjamin Santer, a climate modeler at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. "The bulk of the science is clear and compelling and rests on multiple lines of evidence," he says, not just one case.

Indeed, while Himalayan ice will almost certainly still be here in 2035, it is definitely melting — and that will have a serious impact on the billions of people in Asia who depend at least partially on Himalayan meltwater. Yao Tandong, head of China's Institute of Tibetan Plateau Research, has done on-the-ground research on the Chinese side of the Himalayas — the world's biggest collection of ice outside the two poles — and reported last year that by the end of the century, as much as 70% of the mountain range's glaciers could disappear. And far from providing evidence against climate change, nearly all alpine glaciers worldwide that have been tracked have shown significant melting over the past several decades — often documented in photographs. "It's happening globally, in Europe, North America, China and the Himalayas," says Lonnie Thompson, a glacier expert at Ohio State University. "More than 90% of the world's glaciers are retreating. Glaciers have no political agenda."


United States Geological Survey - Glaciers Retreating in Asia
8/25/2010

Many of Asia's glaciers are retreating as a result of climate change. This retreat impacts water supplies to millions of people, increases the likelihood of outburst floods that threaten life and property in nearby areas, and contributes to sea level rise.

“Of particular interest are the Himalaya, where glacier behavior impacts the quality of life of tens of millions of people,” said USGS scientist Jane Ferrigno. “Glaciers in the Himalaya are a major source of fresh water and supply meltwater to all of the rivers in northern India.”

As glaciers become smaller, water runoff decreases, which is especially important during the dry season when other water sources are limited. Climate change also brings warmer temperatures and earlier water runoff from glaciers, and this combined with spring and summer rains can result in flood conditions. The overall glacier retreat and additional melt can increase the amount of water dammed in the vicinity of a glacier, and the added pressure enhances the likelihood of disastrous outburst flooding.

In Bhutan, 66 glaciers have decreased 8.1 percent over the last 30 years. Rapid changes in the Himalaya is shown in India by the 12 percent retreat of Chhota Shigri Glacier during the last 13 years, as well as retreat of the Gangotri Glacier since 1780, with 12 percent shrinkage of the main stem in the last 16 years.


***

BATTER UP![/SIZE]

Advancing Glacier Coming Close to Blocking Fiord Near Yakutat, Alaska

Some Himalayan glaciers are advancing rather than melting, study finds - Telegraph

Glaciers Advancing or Retreating?, Alaska Science Forum

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Himal...espite-global-warming/H1-Article1-654581.aspx

Some Himalayan glaciers advancing: study › News in Science (ABC Science)

SwissEduc: Glaciers Online - Glaciers of the World

And its out of the park!

Ya' beat me too it, dammit!

 

[Wicked Jester]

Now, what up with that E-mail shit?

The greeinies just hate it when ya' bring that lil' fiasco to light.

 

[wirebender]

CO2 absorbing energy isn't correlation, that's fact.

CO2 immediately emitting precisely the same amount of energy it absorbed is also fact. No energy is trapped by CO2.

What about Conservation of Energy? If energy is trapped it has to go somewhere and statistically only half would be re-emitted into space.

Energy is not trapped by CO2. It is absorbed and then immediately emitted. Conservation of energy is just more evidence that the AGW hypothesis is BS. Conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. In the hypothesis of AGW a certain amount of energy emitted by CO2 is radiated towards the surface of the earth and this "extra" energy supposedly further warms the earth. There is no "extra" energy. In order for there to be "extra" energy that warms the earth to a greater degree than the warming recieved from the sun, that energy must come from somewhere. If it is "extra" energy, then it must be created. Conservation of energy clearly states that energy can not be created.

Where do you believe the "extra" energy comes from?

Tell me. Where does it go? You constantly ask for proof. How about answering a simple question?

No energy is "trapped" by CO2. Energy is absorbed and the same amount of energy is then immediately emitted. You are claiming that energy is absorbed and held. If you believe that to be happening when the emission spectra clearly shows otherwise, then lets see the proof.

 

[skookerasbil]

So, what's up with that Himilayan glacier lie?

Why do these global warming weirdos constantly get caught lying about their data and such?

And another clueless dupe of the fossil fuel industry's propaganda campaign spews more lies and spin.

It is one of your denier cult myths that climate scientists have been "caught lying about their data".

Some minor mistakes were discovered and corrected. A very common occurrence in scientific research.

Himalayan Melting: How a Climate Panel Got It Wrong

It's still not clear exactly how the error made it into the IPCC's assessment, though climate scientists point out that the document was thousands of pages long and that the Himalaya claim wasn't included in the summary of the report, which was boiled down for policymakers and received the most attention from reviewers. "Honest mistakes do happen," admits Benjamin Santer, a climate modeler at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. "The bulk of the science is clear and compelling and rests on multiple lines of evidence," he says, not just one case.

Indeed, while Himalayan ice will almost certainly still be here in 2035, it is definitely melting — and that will have a serious impact on the billions of people in Asia who depend at least partially on Himalayan meltwater. Yao Tandong, head of China's Institute of Tibetan Plateau Research, has done on-the-ground research on the Chinese side of the Himalayas — the world's biggest collection of ice outside the two poles — and reported last year that by the end of the century, as much as 70% of the mountain range's glaciers could disappear. And far from providing evidence against climate change, nearly all alpine glaciers worldwide that have been tracked have shown significant melting over the past several decades — often documented in photographs. "It's happening globally, in Europe, North America, China and the Himalayas," says Lonnie Thompson, a glacier expert at Ohio State University. "More than 90% of the world's glaciers are retreating. Glaciers have no political agenda."


United States Geological Survey - Glaciers Retreating in Asia
8/25/2010

Many of Asia's glaciers are retreating as a result of climate change. This retreat impacts water supplies to millions of people, increases the likelihood of outburst floods that threaten life and property in nearby areas, and contributes to sea level rise.

“Of particular interest are the Himalaya, where glacier behavior impacts the quality of life of tens of millions of people,” said USGS scientist Jane Ferrigno. “Glaciers in the Himalaya are a major source of fresh water and supply meltwater to all of the rivers in northern India.”

As glaciers become smaller, water runoff decreases, which is especially important during the dry season when other water sources are limited. Climate change also brings warmer temperatures and earlier water runoff from glaciers, and this combined with spring and summer rains can result in flood conditions. The overall glacier retreat and additional melt can increase the amount of water dammed in the vicinity of a glacier, and the added pressure enhances the likelihood of disastrous outburst flooding.

In Bhutan, 66 glaciers have decreased 8.1 percent over the last 30 years. Rapid changes in the Himalaya is shown in India by the 12 percent retreat of Chhota Shigri Glacier during the last 13 years, as well as retreat of the Gangotri Glacier since 1780, with 12 percent shrinkage of the main stem in the last 16 years.


***

BATTER UP!

Advancing Glacier Coming Close to Blocking Fiord Near Yakutat, Alaska

Some Himalayan glaciers are advancing rather than melting, study finds - Telegraph

Glaciers Advancing or Retreating?, Alaska Science Forum

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Himal...espite-global-warming/H1-Article1-654581.aspx

Some Himalayan glaciers advancing: study › News in Science (ABC Science)

SwissEduc: Glaciers Online - Glaciers of the World

And its out of the park!

West bro...............laugh.........my..........balls...........off

 

[wirebender]

So that is why every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University states that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger? Because it is not a proven fact?

And yet, you and yours are completely unable to provide the claimed proof. How silly does that make you feel? If it is a proven fact then lets see the proof.

By the way, your claim of all scientific societies stating that AGW is real smacks of intellectual dishonesty. The political heads of the societies state that AGW is real. Survey the scientists who make up the scientific society and you get an entirely different story.

 

[wirebender]

Well, dumb fuck, you have been told many times. Here is the explanation by the American Institute of Physics.

I hate to break it to you but your link isn't to any sort of proof. Your link is to an explanation of a very poor hypothesis that is disintegrating as we speak.

Realizing that it is an article written by real scientists, therefore you will not read it. But for others, this is a definative article, with many links, written by physicists. Not some idiotic political opinion peice written by some doped out fat radio jock.

Which part of that article do you believe is difinative and explain how you come to that conclusion.

 

[wirebender]

Oh boy, here we go again. Once again, dumb fuck, water vapor is the primary GHG. However, it's residence time in the atmosphere is less than 10 days. The residence time of CO2 is about two centuries.

For a guy who doesn't have a clue, you sure like to call names. Who told you that the residence time in the atmosphere is two centuries? I already shot that claim down once, but will gladly do it again. Here are 36 peer reviewed studies dating back as far as the 1950's that state pretty clearly that the residence time in the atmosphere is less than 20 years. How many actual peer reviewed studies can you provide that state otherwise?

By heating the atmosphere, CO2 causes more water vapor to be evaporated into the atmosphere, thereby increasing the heat retained in the atmosphere.

CO2 does not heat the atmosphere. It has no energy and therefore is not a heat source. Any energy absorbed by CO2 is instantly emitted. No net gain. The idea that CO2 is an energy source is pure idiocy.

And we have added many industrial compounds that have thousands of times the ability to retain heat that CO2 does.

CO2 has zero ability to absorb and retain heat therefore a million times zero is zero. No gas other than water vapor can absorb and retain energy. If you believe otherwise, by all means provide some proof.

I started this with an insult, and will end it with and insult. You claim scientific knowledge, but I have yet to see any demonstrated. All you do is post silly yap-yap. With absolutely nothing to back that yap-yap. You are, and probably always will be, a dumb fuck.

More baseless bloviation. Interesting how you fail to note that I support my arguments with peer reviewed data while you support yours with blogs. Insult and shuck and jive are clearly all you have.

 

[RollingThunder]

So, what's up with that Himilayan glacier lie?

Why do these global warming weirdos constantly get caught lying about their data and such?

And another clueless dupe of the fossil fuel industry's propaganda campaign spews more lies and spin.

It is one of your denier cult myths that climate scientists have been "caught lying about their data".

Some minor mistakes were discovered and corrected. A very common occurrence in scientific research.

Himalayan Melting: How a Climate Panel Got It Wrong

It's still not clear exactly how the error made it into the IPCC's assessment, though climate scientists point out that the document was thousands of pages long and that the Himalaya claim wasn't included in the summary of the report, which was boiled down for policymakers and received the most attention from reviewers. "Honest mistakes do happen," admits Benjamin Santer, a climate modeler at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. "The bulk of the science is clear and compelling and rests on multiple lines of evidence," he says, not just one case.

Indeed, while Himalayan ice will almost certainly still be here in 2035, it is definitely melting — and that will have a serious impact on the billions of people in Asia who depend at least partially on Himalayan meltwater. Yao Tandong, head of China's Institute of Tibetan Plateau Research, has done on-the-ground research on the Chinese side of the Himalayas — the world's biggest collection of ice outside the two poles — and reported last year that by the end of the century, as much as 70% of the mountain range's glaciers could disappear. And far from providing evidence against climate change, nearly all alpine glaciers worldwide that have been tracked have shown significant melting over the past several decades — often documented in photographs. "It's happening globally, in Europe, North America, China and the Himalayas," says Lonnie Thompson, a glacier expert at Ohio State University. "More than 90% of the world's glaciers are retreating. Glaciers have no political agenda."


United States Geological Survey - Glaciers Retreating in Asia
8/25/2010

Many of Asia's glaciers are retreating as a result of climate change. This retreat impacts water supplies to millions of people, increases the likelihood of outburst floods that threaten life and property in nearby areas, and contributes to sea level rise.

“Of particular interest are the Himalaya, where glacier behavior impacts the quality of life of tens of millions of people,” said USGS scientist Jane Ferrigno. “Glaciers in the Himalaya are a major source of fresh water and supply meltwater to all of the rivers in northern India.”

As glaciers become smaller, water runoff decreases, which is especially important during the dry season when other water sources are limited. Climate change also brings warmer temperatures and earlier water runoff from glaciers, and this combined with spring and summer rains can result in flood conditions. The overall glacier retreat and additional melt can increase the amount of water dammed in the vicinity of a glacier, and the added pressure enhances the likelihood of disastrous outburst flooding.

In Bhutan, 66 glaciers have decreased 8.1 percent over the last 30 years. Rapid changes in the Himalaya is shown in India by the 12 percent retreat of Chhota Shigri Glacier during the last 13 years, as well as retreat of the Gangotri Glacier since 1780, with 12 percent shrinkage of the main stem in the last 16 years.


***

BATTER UP!

....And its out of the park!...

...And the walleyedretard knocks his brains out of the park once again.

LOLOLOL.

Advancing Glacier Coming Close to Blocking Fiord Near Yakutat, Alaska

Most Alaskan Glaciers Retreating, Thinning, and Stagnating, Says Major USGS Report
Released: 10/6/2008
Most glaciers in every mountain range and island group in Alaska are experiencing significant retreat, thinning or stagnation, especially glaciers at lower elevations, according to a new book published by the U.S. Geological Survey. Although more than 99 percent of Alaska's large glaciers are retreating, a handful, surprisingly, are advancing.

Some Himalayan glaciers are advancing rather than melting, study finds - Telegraph

From the article: (excerpt) - "• This report has been amended since it was first posted. The original headline and first paragraph may have left the mistaken impression that Himalayan glaciers in general are advancing rather than shrinking. We wish to confirm, as was made clear further on in the original article, that this finding related to only one of the areas studied, the Karakoram range, where it was found that rocks and mud on the surface of glaciers are helping to protect them from melting."

Glaciers Advancing or Retreating?, Alaska Science Forum

Once again - Most Alaskan Glaciers Retreating, Thinning, and Stagnating, Says Major USGS Report
Released: 10/6/2008
Most glaciers in every mountain range and island group in Alaska are experiencing significant retreat, thinning or stagnation, especially glaciers at lower elevations, according to a new book published by the U.S. Geological Survey. Although more than 99 percent of Alaska's large glaciers are retreating, a handful, surprisingly, are advancing.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Himal...espite-global-warming/H1-Article1-654581.aspx

From the article: (excerpt) - "They found wide variations in the response of glaciers in the different parts of the Himalayas to climate change.

The research paper argues that the variations are a result of differences in the debris cover enjoyed by different glaciers – a factor that has so far been neglected while studying the impact of climate change on glaciers.

The scientists found that while more than 65% of all Himalayan glaciers studied were retreating, the glaciers in the Tibetan plateau, where debris cover is largely absent, are retreating fastest."

Some Himalayan glaciers advancing: study › News in Science (ABC Science)

From the article: (excerpt) - Some Himalayan glaciers are advancing despite an overall retreat...The report says 58 per cent of glaciers examined in the westerly Karakoram range of the Himalayas were stable or advancing, perhaps because they were influenced by cool westerly winds than the monsoon from the Indian Ocean.

Elsewhere in the Himalayas "more than 65 per cent of the monsoon-influenced glaciers ... are retreating," they write in the journal Nature Geoscience of the satellite study from 2000 to 2008. Some glaciers that were stable in length were covered by a thick layer of rocky debris.

"Overall in the Himalayas, the glaciers are retreating," says lead author Dirk Scherler of the University of Potsdam in Germany.

Worldwide, most glaciers are shrinking from the Alps to the Andes in a trend blamed by the IPCC on greenhouse gases from human activities, led by the burning of fossil fuels.

Debris in the Himalayas - darker than ice and so soaking up more of the Sun's energy - tended to quicken a thaw if it was less than 2 centimetres thick. But a thicker layer on some Himalayan glaciers acted as insulation, slowing the melt.

Among complexities, some debris-covered glaciers that are stable in length might be getting thinner and so losing water overall, he says. That trend had been shown by past studies of the Khumbu glacier on Mount Everest, for instance.

© 2011 ABC

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)

SwissEduc: Glaciers Online - Glaciers of the World

Swiss glaciers melting faster than ever before: study
Jun 22, 2009
(excerpt)

Switzerland's glaciers shrank by 12 percent over the past decade, melting at their fastest rate due to rising temperatures and lighter snowfalls, a study by the Swiss university ETH showed Monday.

"The last decade was the worst decade that we have had in the last 150 years. We lost a lot of water," said Daniel Farinotti, research assistant at the ETH.

"The trend is definitely that glaciers are melting faster now. Since the end of the 1980s, they have lost more and more mass more quickly," he said.

© Thomson Reuters 2011

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)


***

 

[westwall]

And another clueless dupe of the fossil fuel industry's propaganda campaign spews more lies and spin.

It is one of your denier cult myths that climate scientists have been "caught lying about their data".

Some minor mistakes were discovered and corrected. A very common occurrence in scientific research.

Himalayan Melting: How a Climate Panel Got It Wrong

It's still not clear exactly how the error made it into the IPCC's assessment, though climate scientists point out that the document was thousands of pages long and that the Himalaya claim wasn't included in the summary of the report, which was boiled down for policymakers and received the most attention from reviewers. "Honest mistakes do happen," admits Benjamin Santer, a climate modeler at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. "The bulk of the science is clear and compelling and rests on multiple lines of evidence," he says, not just one case.

Indeed, while Himalayan ice will almost certainly still be here in 2035, it is definitely melting — and that will have a serious impact on the billions of people in Asia who depend at least partially on Himalayan meltwater. Yao Tandong, head of China's Institute of Tibetan Plateau Research, has done on-the-ground research on the Chinese side of the Himalayas — the world's biggest collection of ice outside the two poles — and reported last year that by the end of the century, as much as 70% of the mountain range's glaciers could disappear. And far from providing evidence against climate change, nearly all alpine glaciers worldwide that have been tracked have shown significant melting over the past several decades — often documented in photographs. "It's happening globally, in Europe, North America, China and the Himalayas," says Lonnie Thompson, a glacier expert at Ohio State University. "More than 90% of the world's glaciers are retreating. Glaciers have no political agenda."


United States Geological Survey - Glaciers Retreating in Asia
8/25/2010

Many of Asia's glaciers are retreating as a result of climate change. This retreat impacts water supplies to millions of people, increases the likelihood of outburst floods that threaten life and property in nearby areas, and contributes to sea level rise.

“Of particular interest are the Himalaya, where glacier behavior impacts the quality of life of tens of millions of people,” said USGS scientist Jane Ferrigno. “Glaciers in the Himalaya are a major source of fresh water and supply meltwater to all of the rivers in northern India.”

As glaciers become smaller, water runoff decreases, which is especially important during the dry season when other water sources are limited. Climate change also brings warmer temperatures and earlier water runoff from glaciers, and this combined with spring and summer rains can result in flood conditions. The overall glacier retreat and additional melt can increase the amount of water dammed in the vicinity of a glacier, and the added pressure enhances the likelihood of disastrous outburst flooding.

In Bhutan, 66 glaciers have decreased 8.1 percent over the last 30 years. Rapid changes in the Himalaya is shown in India by the 12 percent retreat of Chhota Shigri Glacier during the last 13 years, as well as retreat of the Gangotri Glacier since 1780, with 12 percent shrinkage of the main stem in the last 16 years.


***

BATTER UP!

....And its out of the park!...

...And the walleyedretard knocks his brains out of the park once again.

LOLOLOL.


Most Alaskan Glaciers Retreating, Thinning, and Stagnating, Says Major USGS Report
Released: 10/6/2008
Most glaciers in every mountain range and island group in Alaska are experiencing significant retreat, thinning or stagnation, especially glaciers at lower elevations, according to a new book published by the U.S. Geological Survey. Although more than 99 percent of Alaska's large glaciers are retreating, a handful, surprisingly, are advancing.




From the article: (excerpt) - "• This report has been amended since it was first posted. The original headline and first paragraph may have left the mistaken impression that Himalayan glaciers in general are advancing rather than shrinking. We wish to confirm, as was made clear further on in the original article, that this finding related to only one of the areas studied, the Karakoram range, where it was found that rocks and mud on the surface of glaciers are helping to protect them from melting."



Once again - Most Alaskan Glaciers Retreating, Thinning, and Stagnating, Says Major USGS Report
Released: 10/6/2008
Most glaciers in every mountain range and island group in Alaska are experiencing significant retreat, thinning or stagnation, especially glaciers at lower elevations, according to a new book published by the U.S. Geological Survey. Although more than 99 percent of Alaska's large glaciers are retreating, a handful, surprisingly, are advancing.





From the article: (excerpt) - "They found wide variations in the response of glaciers in the different parts of the Himalayas to climate change.

The research paper argues that the variations are a result of differences in the debris cover enjoyed by different glaciers – a factor that has so far been neglected while studying the impact of climate change on glaciers.

The scientists found that while more than 65% of all Himalayan glaciers studied were retreating, the glaciers in the Tibetan plateau, where debris cover is largely absent, are retreating fastest."

Some Himalayan glaciers advancing: study › News in Science (ABC Science)

From the article: (excerpt) - Some Himalayan glaciers are advancing despite an overall retreat...The report says 58 per cent of glaciers examined in the westerly Karakoram range of the Himalayas were stable or advancing, perhaps because they were influenced by cool westerly winds than the monsoon from the Indian Ocean.

Elsewhere in the Himalayas "more than 65 per cent of the monsoon-influenced glaciers ... are retreating," they write in the journal Nature Geoscience of the satellite study from 2000 to 2008. Some glaciers that were stable in length were covered by a thick layer of rocky debris.

"Overall in the Himalayas, the glaciers are retreating," says lead author Dirk Scherler of the University of Potsdam in Germany.

Worldwide, most glaciers are shrinking from the Alps to the Andes in a trend blamed by the IPCC on greenhouse gases from human activities, led by the burning of fossil fuels.

Debris in the Himalayas - darker than ice and so soaking up more of the Sun's energy - tended to quicken a thaw if it was less than 2 centimetres thick. But a thicker layer on some Himalayan glaciers acted as insulation, slowing the melt.

Among complexities, some debris-covered glaciers that are stable in length might be getting thinner and so losing water overall, he says. That trend had been shown by past studies of the Khumbu glacier on Mount Everest, for instance.

© 2011 ABC

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)

SwissEduc: Glaciers Online - Glaciers of the World

Swiss glaciers melting faster than ever before: study
Jun 22, 2009
(excerpt)

Switzerland's glaciers shrank by 12 percent over the past decade, melting at their fastest rate due to rising temperatures and lighter snowfalls, a study by the Swiss university ETH showed Monday.

"The last decade was the worst decade that we have had in the last 150 years. We lost a lot of water," said Daniel Farinotti, research assistant at the ETH.

"The trend is definitely that glaciers are melting faster now. Since the end of the 1980s, they have lost more and more mass more quickly," he said.

© Thomson Reuters 2011

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)


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Wow, four year old stories. I guess you aren't too capable huh? There's way more accurate stories out there that are actually current. Try using those.

 

[AllieBaba]

Worldwide, Blame for Climate Change Falls on Humans
(excerpt)
People nearly everywhere, including majorities in developed Asia and Latin America, are more likely to attribute global warming to human activities rather than natural causes. The U.S. is the exception...


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With such a wealth of ammunition, it should be no problem for you to bring forward some hard, observed evidence that establishes an unequivocal link between the activities of man and the changing global climate. Lets see it.

Hell, if you can provide hard proof that increases in CO2 are driving the climate this guy will pay you $10,000. There are several larger cash prizes out there for anyone who can prove that manmade CO2 is responsible for global climate change. Why do you suppose none of your priests has stepped up to the plate to collect this money if the "science" is settled and the effect has been proven?

Step on up. Prove your case. Earn some money.

Logic tells you it's true. Waiting for the proof you or this guy wants, may be too late. I'm certainly not going to take the word of someone who doesn't even know about electron quantum states and how energy is absorbed and released by changing those states. I'm no fool. You throw out a good rap, but you're either lying or are totally ignorant about the subject. You ask for proof, but who's got time to review high school chemistry with you? You should have that under your belt BEFORE coming here.

Wow, that's really lame.

Step up, prove the case, earn some money.

 

[AllieBaba]

"Believe it cuz I said to and there's no time for RESEARCH! If you don't already know it, there's no point in telling you how it happens! It just happens! That's all you need to know!"

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[wirebender]

Wow, that's really lame.

Step up, prove the case, earn some money.

There is a great deal of money up for grabs out there for anyone who can offer up any actual observed proof that man is responsible for the changing climate. You would think that the climate wackos might wonder why none of their priests step up to claim it if any such proof exists.

They talk about logic, but logic dictates that if proof exists, then it should be easy to collect the money. Why is it still up for grabs?

 

[RollingThunder]

BATTER UP!

....And its out of the park!...

...And the walleyedretard knocks his brains out of the park once again.

LOLOLOL.

Advancing Glacier Coming Close to Blocking Fiord Near Yakutat, Alaska

Most Alaskan Glaciers Retreating, Thinning, and Stagnating, Says Major USGS Report
Released: 10/6/2008
Most glaciers in every mountain range and island group in Alaska are experiencing significant retreat, thinning or stagnation, especially glaciers at lower elevations, according to a new book published by the U.S. Geological Survey. Although more than 99 percent of Alaska's large glaciers are retreating, a handful, surprisingly, are advancing.

Some Himalayan glaciers are advancing rather than melting, study finds - Telegraph

From the article: (excerpt) - "• This report has been amended since it was first posted. The original headline and first paragraph may have left the mistaken impression that Himalayan glaciers in general are advancing rather than shrinking. We wish to confirm, as was made clear further on in the original article, that this finding related to only one of the areas studied, the Karakoram range, where it was found that rocks and mud on the surface of glaciers are helping to protect them from melting."

Glaciers Advancing or Retreating?, Alaska Science Forum

Once again - Most Alaskan Glaciers Retreating, Thinning, and Stagnating, Says Major USGS Report
Released: 10/6/2008
Most glaciers in every mountain range and island group in Alaska are experiencing significant retreat, thinning or stagnation, especially glaciers at lower elevations, according to a new book published by the U.S. Geological Survey. Although more than 99 percent of Alaska's large glaciers are retreating, a handful, surprisingly, are advancing.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Himala...e1-654581.aspx

From the article: (excerpt) - "They found wide variations in the response of glaciers in the different parts of the Himalayas to climate change.

The research paper argues that the variations are a result of differences in the debris cover enjoyed by different glaciers – a factor that has so far been neglected while studying the impact of climate change on glaciers.

The scientists found that while more than 65% of all Himalayan glaciers studied were retreating, the glaciers in the Tibetan plateau, where debris cover is largely absent, are retreating fastest."

Some Himalayan glaciers advancing: study › News in Science (ABC Science)

From the article: (excerpt) - Some Himalayan glaciers are advancing despite an overall retreat...The report says 58 per cent of glaciers examined in the westerly Karakoram range of the Himalayas were stable or advancing, perhaps because they were influenced by cool westerly winds than the monsoon from the Indian Ocean.

Elsewhere in the Himalayas "more than 65 per cent of the monsoon-influenced glaciers ... are retreating," they write in the journal Nature Geoscience of the satellite study from 2000 to 2008. Some glaciers that were stable in length were covered by a thick layer of rocky debris.

"Overall in the Himalayas, the glaciers are retreating," says lead author Dirk Scherler of the University of Potsdam in Germany.

Worldwide, most glaciers are shrinking from the Alps to the Andes in a trend blamed by the IPCC on greenhouse gases from human activities, led by the burning of fossil fuels.

Debris in the Himalayas - darker than ice and so soaking up more of the Sun's energy - tended to quicken a thaw if it was less than 2 centimetres thick. But a thicker layer on some Himalayan glaciers acted as insulation, slowing the melt.

Among complexities, some debris-covered glaciers that are stable in length might be getting thinner and so losing water overall, he says. That trend had been shown by past studies of the Khumbu glacier on Mount Everest, for instance.

© 2011 ABC

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)

SwissEduc: Glaciers Online - Glaciers of the World

Swiss glaciers melting faster than ever before: study
Jun 22, 2009
(excerpt)

Switzerland's glaciers shrank by 12 percent over the past decade, melting at their fastest rate due to rising temperatures and lighter snowfalls, a study by the Swiss university ETH showed Monday.

"The last decade was the worst decade that we have had in the last 150 years. We lost a lot of water," said Daniel Farinotti, research assistant at the ETH.

"The trend is definitely that glaciers are melting faster now. Since the end of the 1980s, they have lost more and more mass more quickly," he said.

© Thomson Reuters 2011

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)


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Wow, four year old stories. I guess you aren't too capable huh? There's way more accurate stories out there that are actually current. Try using those.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.......too, too funny...mostly I was quoting from the articles that you had cited in your mistaken belief that they supported whatever point you imagine you're making.

So, my funny little retard, let's see you come up with these "more accurate stories that are actually current" and that supersede all the previous science. Go ahead, "try using those". LOLOLOL. Your inevitable inability to back up your wild and very idiotic claims is one of the funniest things about you.

 

[editec]

You can fool some of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

BUT, regardless of who you fool, REALITY doesn't give a rat's ass.

Reality doen't care what people think about it.

 

[wirebender]

You can fool some of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

BUT, regardless of who you fool, REALITY doesn't give a rat's ass.

Reality doen't care what people think about it.

The reality is that anyone who believes a trace gas with no mechanism by which to absorb and retain energy can drive the earth's climate has been well and truely fooled.

 

[RollingThunder]

You can fool some of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

BUT, regardless of who you fool, REALITY doesn't give a rat's ass.

Reality doen't care what people think about it.

The reality is that anyone who believes a trace gas with no mechanism by which to absorb and retain energy can drive the earth's climate has been well and truely fooled.

That's your delusion because you're the fool. Scientists know better. Even scientists who dispute AGW know better.

Dr. Roy Spencer who runs the satellite monitoring program at the University of Alabama Huntsville, is a skeptic of AGW, one of the very few actual climate scientists who's still skeptical, and here's what he has to say about CO2 and the greenhouse effect.

In Defense of the Greenhouse Effect
April 1st, 2009 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.
(excerpt)

The greenhouse effect is supported by laboratory measurements of the radiative absorption properties of different gases, which when put into a radiative transfer model that conserves energy, and combined with convective overturning of the atmosphere in response to solar heating, results in a vertical temperature profile that looks very much like the one we observe in nature.


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[Wicked Jester]

Funny thing is, these GW threads always turn into mirror images of the loony troofer threads

The gullible GW loons are just as funny as the troofer loons. And like the troofer loons, they have a bunch o' shysters making big bucks off of the gullible.....Algore is no doubt laughing all the way to the bank.