Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound

[AvgGuyIA]

"Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound"

And as usual most conservatives miss the point.

The right to privacy concerns the right to make personal decisions absent unwarranted interference from the state; that includes the decision to have an abortion, or to not have an abortion, where the decision to have an abortion is just as appropriate as deciding not to.

Moreover, this anecdotal account is in no way 'justification' to mandate through force of law that a woman view an ultrasound as a condition of exercising her right to privacy; indeed, such mandates have been permanently enjoined in two states.

Liberals always justify murder and demand the law allow them to council in favor of abortion but not allow space for alternative counciling. All the while demanding $500 million from taxpayers.

If mandating background checks on gun sales isn't a violation of a right to own guns, as Liberals claim, then mandating an ultrasound isn't violating some court decision of whether or not she can have an abortion.

Point well taken. More hypocrisy of the left. That's why when we take back power, we implement these regulation regardless of what they want.

 

[Skylar]

"Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound"

And as usual most conservatives miss the point.

The right to privacy concerns the right to make personal decisions absent unwarranted interference from the state; that includes the decision to have an abortion, or to not have an abortion, where the decision to have an abortion is just as appropriate as deciding not to.

Moreover, this anecdotal account is in no way 'justification' to mandate through force of law that a woman view an ultrasound as a condition of exercising her right to privacy; indeed, such mandates have been permanently enjoined in two states.

Liberals always justify murder and demand the law allow them to council in favor of abortion but not allow space for alternative counciling. All the while demanding $500 million from taxpayers.

If mandating background checks on gun sales isn't a violation of a right to own guns, as Liberals claim, then mandating an ultrasound isn't violating some court decision of whether or not she can have an abortion.

What laws prevent a woman from having an abortion? None.

What laws prevent felons from buying guns? Plenty.

Breaking your awkward analogy. You don't get to tell women what to do with their own reproduction. Get used to the idea.

 

[Skylar]

"Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound"

And as usual most conservatives miss the point.

The right to privacy concerns the right to make personal decisions absent unwarranted interference from the state; that includes the decision to have an abortion, or to not have an abortion, where the decision to have an abortion is just as appropriate as deciding not to.

Moreover, this anecdotal account is in no way 'justification' to mandate through force of law that a woman view an ultrasound as a condition of exercising her right to privacy; indeed, such mandates have been permanently enjoined in two states.

Liberals always justify murder and demand the law allow them to council in favor of abortion but not allow space for alternative counciling. All the while demanding $500 million from taxpayers.

If mandating background checks on gun sales isn't a violation of a right to own guns, as Liberals claim, then mandating an ultrasound isn't violating some court decision of whether or not she can have an abortion.

Point well taken. More hypocrisy of the left. That's shy when we talke back power, we implement these regulation regardless of what they want.

Nope. Hypocrisy is saying one thing but thinking something else. I say that women should have the right to make their own reproductive choices. And I think the exact same thing.

 

[Conservative65]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

Pro-choice advocates want it to be the woman's choice, not the state's.

Then, why is the responsibility for the results of those choices belong to those of us told to butt out of the choice when it was made. For example, a woman CHOOSES to have a child for whatever reason. When she can't afford to fund the choice she made, why are the rest of us forced to do it for something we were told was none of our business?
[/qjuote]

Because the people in your


If you want her to have the choice, give her the total responsibility for the results, too.

Medical decisions are left to the woman and her doctor. Most abortions aren't medical decisions but social decisions.

Not when the legislature is mandating an ultrasound, regardless of what the woman and her doctor think is best.

That's a decision they should make. Not some old white guy who thinks he knows better than both.

Mandating an ultrasound isn't denying her an abortion.

It is, however, interfering with a woman and her doctor on which medical decisions are best for her. That's best determined by the woman and her doctor. Not some old white guy.

Sad thing is when the woman makes a choice with her body she can't afford, the old white guys are the ones she demands pay the taxes to fund it.

So if the State chooses to pay for Similac, a woman doesn't get to choose the use of her own body?

Huh. I don't think that's how rights work.

If someone else is paying for something you can't afford, you have the choice not to use it. Nothing says you have to. You can always buy what you like. Oh, that's right. You can't afford it and think you have the right to tell others what you want even though you're not paying for it. You don't. It doesn't work that way.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

"Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound"

And as usual most conservatives miss the point.

The right to privacy concerns the right to make personal decisions absent unwarranted interference from the state; that includes the decision to have an abortion, or to not have an abortion, where the decision to have an abortion is just as appropriate as deciding not to.

Moreover, this anecdotal account is in no way 'justification' to mandate through force of law that a woman view an ultrasound as a condition of exercising her right to privacy; indeed, such mandates have been permanently enjoined in two states.

Liberals always justify murder and demand the law allow them to council in favor of abortion but not allow space for alternative counciling. All the while demanding $500 million from taxpayers.

If mandating background checks on gun sales isn't a violation of a right to own guns, as Liberals claim, then mandating an ultrasound isn't violating some court decision of whether or not she can have an abortion.

What laws prevent a woman from having an abortion? None.

What laws prevent felons from buying guns? Plenty.

Breaking your awkward analogy. You don't get to tell women what to do with their own reproduction. Get used to the idea.

When we get power, we will do it. Just like the democrats did with Obamacare.

 

[Conservative65]

"Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound"

And as usual most conservatives miss the point.

The right to privacy concerns the right to make personal decisions absent unwarranted interference from the state; that includes the decision to have an abortion, or to not have an abortion, where the decision to have an abortion is just as appropriate as deciding not to.

Moreover, this anecdotal account is in no way 'justification' to mandate through force of law that a woman view an ultrasound as a condition of exercising her right to privacy; indeed, such mandates have been permanently enjoined in two states.

Liberals always justify murder and demand the law allow them to council in favor of abortion but not allow space for alternative counciling. All the while demanding $500 million from taxpayers.

If mandating background checks on gun sales isn't a violation of a right to own guns, as Liberals claim, then mandating an ultrasound isn't violating some court decision of whether or not she can have an abortion.

What laws prevent a woman from having an abortion? None.

What laws prevent felons from buying guns? Plenty.

Breaking your awkward analogy. You don't get to tell women what to do with their own reproduction. Get used to the idea.

You missed the point as usual. Not surprised coming from a baby killer.

Explain to me why a woman thinks she has the right to demand financial help for something related to a reproductive choice she says is hers alone. Give her the choice. However, if she can't afford it, tough and I don't care what happens to her or hers.

 

[Skylar]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

Pro-choice advocates want it to be the woman's choice, not the state's.

Then, why is the responsibility for the results of those choices belong to those of us told to butt out of the choice when it was made. For example, a woman CHOOSES to have a child for whatever reason. When she can't afford to fund the choice she made, why are the rest of us forced to do it for something we were told was none of our business?
[/qjuote]

Because the people in your


If you want her to have the choice, give her the total responsibility for the results, too.

Medical decisions are left to the woman and her doctor. Most abortions aren't medical decisions but social decisions.

Not when the legislature is mandating an ultrasound, regardless of what the woman and her doctor think is best.

That's a decision they should make. Not some old white guy who thinks he knows better than both.

Mandating an ultrasound isn't denying her an abortion.

It is, however, interfering with a woman and her doctor on which medical decisions are best for her. That's best determined by the woman and her doctor. Not some old white guy.

Sad thing is when the woman makes a choice with her body she can't afford, the old white guys are the ones she demands pay the taxes to fund it.

So if the State chooses to pay for Similac, a woman doesn't get to choose the use of her own body?

Huh. I don't think that's how rights work.

If someone else is paying for something you can't afford, you have the choice not to use it. Nothing says you have to. You can always buy what you like. Oh, that's right. You can't afford it and think you have the right to tell others what you want even though you're not paying for it. You don't. It doesn't work that way.

None of which has a thing to do with a woman's right to make her own reproductive choices.

And your glorious irrelevance to the same process.

 

[rightwinger]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound

Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

So you support a woman's right to choose?

 

[Skylar]

"Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound"

And as usual most conservatives miss the point.

The right to privacy concerns the right to make personal decisions absent unwarranted interference from the state; that includes the decision to have an abortion, or to not have an abortion, where the decision to have an abortion is just as appropriate as deciding not to.

Moreover, this anecdotal account is in no way 'justification' to mandate through force of law that a woman view an ultrasound as a condition of exercising her right to privacy; indeed, such mandates have been permanently enjoined in two states.

Liberals always justify murder and demand the law allow them to council in favor of abortion but not allow space for alternative counciling. All the while demanding $500 million from taxpayers.

If mandating background checks on gun sales isn't a violation of a right to own guns, as Liberals claim, then mandating an ultrasound isn't violating some court decision of whether or not she can have an abortion.

What laws prevent a woman from having an abortion? None.

What laws prevent felons from buying guns? Plenty.

Breaking your awkward analogy. You don't get to tell women what to do with their own reproduction. Get used to the idea.

You missed the point as usual. Not surprised coming from a baby killer.

And by 'baby killer', you mean someone who believes that the woman who is pregnant should be able to make the decision for *herself* rather than you making it for her?

Explain to me why a woman thinks she has the right to demand financial help for something related to a reproductive choice she says is hers alone. Give her the choice. However, if she can't afford it, tough and I don't care what happens to her or hers.

Explain to me what relevance financial help has to do with a woman's right to abortion. As your opposition to abortion isn't limited to women who seek public assistance. Making the criteria irrelevant to your argument.

Try again. This time without ignoring your own criteria

 

[Conservative65]

"Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound"

And as usual most conservatives miss the point.

The right to privacy concerns the right to make personal decisions absent unwarranted interference from the state; that includes the decision to have an abortion, or to not have an abortion, where the decision to have an abortion is just as appropriate as deciding not to.

Moreover, this anecdotal account is in no way 'justification' to mandate through force of law that a woman view an ultrasound as a condition of exercising her right to privacy; indeed, such mandates have been permanently enjoined in two states.

Liberals always justify murder and demand the law allow them to council in favor of abortion but not allow space for alternative counciling. All the while demanding $500 million from taxpayers.

If mandating background checks on gun sales isn't a violation of a right to own guns, as Liberals claim, then mandating an ultrasound isn't violating some court decision of whether or not she can have an abortion.

Point well taken. More hypocrisy of the left. That's shy when we talke back power, we implement these regulation regardless of what they want.

Nope. Hypocrisy is saying one thing but thinking something else. I say that women should have the right to make their own reproductive choices. And I think the exact same thing.

You're willing to give the woman the sole choice. Do you require sole responsibility of that woman with all aspects and results of that choice? In other words, if she chooses to do something and can't afford it, are you saying the rest of us don't have to fund it for her? Unless you are, that's hypocritical because what you're saying is others should butt out except when the woman needs financial help.

 

[Conservative65]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound

Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

So you support a woman's right to choose?

Do you support a woman's responsibility for all choices she makes with her body? Until I no longer have to pay for kids a woman chose to have, then no.

 

[Preacher]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound

Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

So you support a woman's right to choose?

Choose what? She CHOSE to have sex. EVERYTHING has a consequence for an action....have sex possibly get pregnant,drive drunk possibly kill someone,shoot someone possibly kill them...amazing how you can take the life in the 2nd and 3rd one and be sent to prison but not the first. Guess a babies innocent isn't as worth as much as an adults.

 

[Skylar]

"Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound"

And as usual most conservatives miss the point.

The right to privacy concerns the right to make personal decisions absent unwarranted interference from the state; that includes the decision to have an abortion, or to not have an abortion, where the decision to have an abortion is just as appropriate as deciding not to.

Moreover, this anecdotal account is in no way 'justification' to mandate through force of law that a woman view an ultrasound as a condition of exercising her right to privacy; indeed, such mandates have been permanently enjoined in two states.

Liberals always justify murder and demand the law allow them to council in favor of abortion but not allow space for alternative counciling. All the while demanding $500 million from taxpayers.

If mandating background checks on gun sales isn't a violation of a right to own guns, as Liberals claim, then mandating an ultrasound isn't violating some court decision of whether or not she can have an abortion.

Point well taken. More hypocrisy of the left. That's shy when we talke back power, we implement these regulation regardless of what they want.

Nope. Hypocrisy is saying one thing but thinking something else. I say that women should have the right to make their own reproductive choices. And I think the exact same thing.

You're willing to give the woman the sole choice.

Over the use of her own body? Who else would I give that choice to? You, making the decision for her?

Um, no. You're nobody in this scenario.

Do you require sole responsibility of that woman with all aspects and results of that choice? In other words, if she chooses to do something and can't afford it, are you saying the rest of us don't have to fund it for her? Unless you are, that's hypocritical because what you're saying is others should butt out except when the woman needs financial help.

Would you recognize a woman's right to choose if she didn't take any public benefits?

 

[Conservative65]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

Pro-choice advocates want it to be the woman's choice, not the state's.

Then, why is the responsibility for the results of those choices belong to those of us told to butt out of the choice when it was made. For example, a woman CHOOSES to have a child for whatever reason. When she can't afford to fund the choice she made, why are the rest of us forced to do it for something we were told was none of our business?
[/qjuote]

Because the people in your


If you want her to have the choice, give her the total responsibility for the results, too.

Medical decisions are left to the woman and her doctor. Most abortions aren't medical decisions but social decisions.

Not when the legislature is mandating an ultrasound, regardless of what the woman and her doctor think is best.

That's a decision they should make. Not some old white guy who thinks he knows better than both.

Mandating an ultrasound isn't denying her an abortion.

It is, however, interfering with a woman and her doctor on which medical decisions are best for her. That's best determined by the woman and her doctor. Not some old white guy.

Sad thing is when the woman makes a choice with her body she can't afford, the old white guys are the ones she demands pay the taxes to fund it.

So if the State chooses to pay for Similac, a woman doesn't get to choose the use of her own body?

Huh. I don't think that's how rights work.

If someone else is paying for something you can't afford, you have the choice not to use it. Nothing says you have to. You can always buy what you like. Oh, that's right. You can't afford it and think you have the right to tell others what you want even though you're not paying for it. You don't. It doesn't work that way.

None of which has a thing to do with a woman's right to make her own reproductive choices.

And your glorious irrelevance to the same process.

Are you saying results of a choice have nothing to do with the choice? If she chooses something with her body then can't pay for it, they aren't exclusive. Her CHOICE produced the result she now wants someone told to butt out to pay for.

 

[Skylar]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound

Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

So you support a woman's right to choose?

Choose what? She CHOSE to have sex. EVERYTHING has a consequence for an action....have sex possibly get pregnant,drive drunk possibly kill someone,shoot someone possibly kill them...amazing how you can take the life in the 2nd and 3rd one and be sent to prison but not the first. Guess a babies innocent isn't as worth as much as an adults.

She chooses whether or not she's going to remain pregnant. Its her body.

You are insisting that YOU get to decide for her, YOU get to decide what choices she has available to her.

But you don't. You're nobody. You decide nothing.

See how that works?

 

[Skylar]

Pro-choice advocates want it to be the woman's choice, not the state's.

Then, why is the responsibility for the results of those choices belong to those of us told to butt out of the choice when it was made. For example, a woman CHOOSES to have a child for whatever reason. When she can't afford to fund the choice she made, why are the rest of us forced to do it for something we were told was none of our business?
[/qjuote]

Because the people in your


If you want her to have the choice, give her the total responsibility for the results, too.

Not when the legislature is mandating an ultrasound, regardless of what the woman and her doctor think is best.

That's a decision they should make. Not some old white guy who thinks he knows better than both.

Mandating an ultrasound isn't denying her an abortion.

It is, however, interfering with a woman and her doctor on which medical decisions are best for her. That's best determined by the woman and her doctor. Not some old white guy.

Sad thing is when the woman makes a choice with her body she can't afford, the old white guys are the ones she demands pay the taxes to fund it.

So if the State chooses to pay for Similac, a woman doesn't get to choose the use of her own body?

Huh. I don't think that's how rights work.

If someone else is paying for something you can't afford, you have the choice not to use it. Nothing says you have to. You can always buy what you like. Oh, that's right. You can't afford it and think you have the right to tell others what you want even though you're not paying for it. You don't. It doesn't work that way.

None of which has a thing to do with a woman's right to make her own reproductive choices.

And your glorious irrelevance to the same process.

Are you saying results of a choice have nothing to do with the choice?

I'm saying that she has the right to make her own reproductive choices.

All the rest is your own babble, citing you, talking to you.

 

[Conservative65]

Liberals always justify murder and demand the law allow them to council in favor of abortion but not allow space for alternative counciling. All the while demanding $500 million from taxpayers.

If mandating background checks on gun sales isn't a violation of a right to own guns, as Liberals claim, then mandating an ultrasound isn't violating some court decision of whether or not she can have an abortion.

Point well taken. More hypocrisy of the left. That's shy when we talke back power, we implement these regulation regardless of what they want.

Nope. Hypocrisy is saying one thing but thinking something else. I say that women should have the right to make their own reproductive choices. And I think the exact same thing.

You're willing to give the woman the sole choice.

Over the use of her own body? Who else would I give that choice to? You, making the decision for her?

Um, no. You're nobody in this scenario.

Do you require sole responsibility of that woman with all aspects and results of that choice? In other words, if she chooses to do something and can't afford it, are you saying the rest of us don't have to fund it for her? Unless you are, that's hypocritical because what you're saying is others should butt out except when the woman needs financial help.

Would you recognize a woman's right to choose if she didn't take any public benefits?

Since that won't happen or until it does, no. With her sole choice comes sole responsibility. Those of you claiming she has the choice are the first ones to raise hell if any mention of cutting or doing away with handouts is mentioned. Tells me you're not interested in the latter but still demand sole choice.

 

[rightwinger]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound

Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

So you support a woman's right to choose?

Do you support a woman's responsibility for all choices she makes with her body? Until I no longer have to pay for kids a woman chose to have, then no.

Yes I do

Raising a child is a massive responsibility. A woman has a right to terminate her pregnancy if she is not capable of that responsibility.

If you don't want to pay for child support, then you have no business objecting if she aborts

 

[Skylar]

If mandating background checks on gun sales isn't a violation of a right to own guns, as Liberals claim, then mandating an ultrasound isn't violating some court decision of whether or not she can have an abortion.

Point well taken. More hypocrisy of the left. That's shy when we talke back power, we implement these regulation regardless of what they want.

Nope. Hypocrisy is saying one thing but thinking something else. I say that women should have the right to make their own reproductive choices. And I think the exact same thing.

You're willing to give the woman the sole choice.

Over the use of her own body? Who else would I give that choice to? You, making the decision for her?

Um, no. You're nobody in this scenario.

Do you require sole responsibility of that woman with all aspects and results of that choice? In other words, if she chooses to do something and can't afford it, are you saying the rest of us don't have to fund it for her? Unless you are, that's hypocritical because what you're saying is others should butt out except when the woman needs financial help.

Would you recognize a woman's right to choose if she didn't take any public benefits?

Since that won't happen or until it does, no.

So your entire argument is irrelevant to your stance on a woman's right to choose. Convenient. Your argument is also rrelevant to my stance on a woman's right to choose.

 

[Conservative65]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound

Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

So you support a woman's right to choose?

Choose what? She CHOSE to have sex. EVERYTHING has a consequence for an action....have sex possibly get pregnant,drive drunk possibly kill someone,shoot someone possibly kill them...amazing how you can take the life in the 2nd and 3rd one and be sent to prison but not the first. Guess a babies innocent isn't as worth as much as an adults.

She chooses whether or not she's going to remain pregnant. Its her body.

You are insisting that YOU get to decide for her, YOU get to decide what choices she has available to her.

But you don't. You're nobody. You decide nothing.

See how that works?

A nobody is the kind of person that makes a choice, tells others to butt out, then demand those told to butt out pay for the results of the choice. There are plenty of those.

Do you support social welfare programs for women who had children they can't afford? If you do, you think you have a right to say what is done with my money. You don't.

 

[Conservative65]

‘I saw little arms, little legs, and a head!’: Mom leaves abortion clinic after seeing ultrasound

Imagine that. The baby killers don't want women to be made to see the HUMAN BEING they are killing when having an abortion.

So you support a woman's right to choose?

Do you support a woman's responsibility for all choices she makes with her body? Until I no longer have to pay for kids a woman chose to have, then no.

Yes I do

Raising a child is a massive responsibility. A woman has a right to terminate her pregnancy if she is not capable of that responsibility.

If you don't want to pay for child support, then you have no business objecting if she aborts

I have the right whether you think I do or not. A woman does not have the right to demand others pay if she chooses to have a child she can't afford. If you want to support them go ahead. The ONLY ones I have a responsibility to are mine. If I didn't get the pussy from someone that now demands I support her children, they aren't my responsibility.