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That was then, this is now.They are not our ally, they look at us the same way China does: They hate us. They were complicit in 9/11, FFS.
Exactly.We still rely on middle eastern oil,
and that's why we have to kiss up....one generation to the next....
one war or warring over there after another....
We need to change that.....
Its good to be king.Bin Salman told Baier that "anyone involved" in Khashoggi’s killing is serving time in prison and must "face the law."
"We take all the legal measurements that any country took … We did that in Saudi Arabia and the case being closed," he said. "Also, we try to reform the security system to be sure that these kind of mistakes doesn't happen again, and we can see in the past five years nothing of those things happened. It's not part of what Saudi Arabia do."
Khashoggi was not walking in a bad area late at night. He walked into a Saudi Embassy in neutral Turkey. His safety was assured
He was met by a team of assassins from Saudi Arabia who were there for the sole purpose of killing him and disposing the body
The assassins escaped punishment
Those who ordered the hit were not charged. Those who did the killing were not executed like a common murderer would be. They were given short sentences in a prison with luxury accommodations.
True. I don't know if you are old enough to remember the "oil embargo" of the 1970s?Saudi supplies us with energy so we ignore it's shortcomings and hope that the country doesn't get pissed at us. That's about it.
Like everyone else, he is out for himself. Not enough information, criteria, etc to vote. I believe the answer is some of all of the above.I saw the Bret Baier interview with MBS. MBS is no dummy, he is very smart bordering on brilliant. He answered every question with ease.
Bret Baer was amazed at what is happening in Saudi Arabia. Construction everywhere, all directed by MBS.
The old king of Saudi Arabia used to take goats on 747s when he traveled. He had no future vision for SA. MBS does, and he has metrics and a timeline to get there.
SA now allows women to drive and to hold positions of power. A MAJOR positive. However, all of this progress comes after MBS apparently had Khashoggi murdered and chopped up, a major negative. So who knows if MBS has any moral compass to speak of? His warm handshake with Putin gave me chills.
15 mega-projects shaping the future of Saudi Arabia
From theme parks and metro lines to the world's tallest structure, Saudi is undergoing some serious changeswww.thenationalnews.com
Bret Baier interviews Saudi Prince: Israel peace, 9/11 ties, Iran nuke fears: 'Cannot see another Hiroshima'
Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman answered all questions put to him by Fox News' Bret Baier, including questions about Jamal Khashoggi's murder and ties to the 9/11 attacks.www.foxnews.com
MBS is one scary guy. He has so much power and such wealth who knows what his intentions really are? He seems to know everyone, even Putin and Xi. Yet he is the biggest buyer of US military equipment, which is the best in the world, so no real surprise, as I said MBS is very smart, but scary.
So what does the forum think of MBS, a dependable ME ally or an evil duplicitous adversary? When the king dies, MBS will be the new king of SA.
I'm the only "no clue" vote.Like everyone else, he is out for himself. Not enough information, criteria, etc to vote. I believe the answer is some of all of the above.
www.independent.co.uk
Oh, he's definitely playing us for fools. But, that doesn't mean he wouldn't help us out if it was in his own best interest.I'm the only "no clue" vote.
Its hard to tell if someone is "real" or playing everyone else for fools.
Putin high-fives Saudi crown prince bin Salman at G20 Summit
Two leaders surrounded by controversy share ‘stomach-churning’ greeting in Buenos Aires
You'd bet your life and everyone in your families' life on that "assumption"?Oh, he's definitely playing us for fools. But, that doesn't mean he wouldn't help us out if it was in his own best interest.
How so?His answer to that is that he only wants price stability.
High oil prices wouldn't hurt the US if we didn't have Biden's "war on energy".
Yes, he is the kind of great guy who would offer Prigozhin a plane ride if he needed one.You'd bet your life and everyone in your families' life on that "assumption"?
He seems like the kind of guy who would build Elysium for himself and a few trillionaires, then who cares what happens?
That was his answer to Bret's question. He adjusts SA oil production only for price stability.How so?
The US is pumping as much oil today as it was before covid, and drilling collapsed while Dump was still dumping.That was his answer to Bret's question. He adjusts SA oil production only for price stability.
Bin Salman told Baier that "anyone involved" in Khashoggi’s killing is serving time in prison and must "face the law."
"We take all the legal measurements that any country took … We did that in Saudi Arabia and the case being closed," he said. "Also, we try to reform the security system to be sure that these kind of mistakes doesn't happen again, and we can see in the past five years nothing of those things happened. It's not part of what Saudi Arabia do."
Khashoggi was not walking in a bad area late at night. He walked into a Saudi Embassy in neutral Turkey. His safety was assured
He was met by a team of assassins from Saudi Arabia who were there for the sole purpose of killing him and disposing the body
The assassins escaped punishment
Those who ordered the hit were not charged. Those who did the killing were not executed like a common murderer would be. They were given short sentences in a prison with luxury accommodations.
Mr. Khashoggi is a Saudi subject and ventured into Saudi territory. If he committed a crime according to Saudi law, like advocating for insurrection against the royal family, he was going to be punished.
Dumbass. Your link shows how many rigs are pumping oil, not how many are drilling.The US is pumping as much oil today as it was before covid, and drilling collapsed while Dump was still dumping.
Biden does not control rigs, and again THE US IS PUMPING AS MUCH DOMESTIC OIL NOW AS IN DUMP'S TERM.Dumbass. Your link shows how many rigs are pumping oil, not how many are drilling.
Drilling is found using the Baker-Hughes rig count link. Drilling is slowing down from 800 to ~640, not good for future production.
View attachment 832269U.S. Rig Count Data available from Baker Hughes
U.S. Rig Count current and historical data, updated every Friday. Data made available by Baker Hughes.www.aogr.com
President Biden and the libs attacked Moe Salman viciously, why should Mr. Salman give them any respect?
The USA got along fine with the KSA when Trump was around.
Salman, of course, can't be 100% "trusted", just like any other foreign leader. Salman is interesting in making Saudi Arabia great again, not to shore up the Biden Regime.
In the KSA, Salman has really done a lot to modernize their nation, legalizing the ladies' wrestling as well as agreeing to give dames drivers' licenses.
I expect to see further progress in the future over there.
The old king died in 1953. The 747 came out in 1968. You're a moron.I saw the Bret Baier interview with MBS. MBS is no dummy, he is very smart bordering on brilliant. He answered every question with ease.
Bret Baer was amazed at what is happening in Saudi Arabia. Construction everywhere, all directed by MBS.
The old king of Saudi Arabia used to take goats on 747s when he traveled. He had no future vision for SA. MBS does, and he has metrics and a timeline to get there.
SA now allows women to drive and to hold positions of power. A MAJOR positive. However, all of this progress comes after MBS apparently had Khashoggi murdered and chopped up, a major negative. So who knows if MBS has any moral compass to speak of? His warm handshake with Putin gave me chills.
15 mega-projects shaping the future of Saudi Arabia
From theme parks and metro lines to the world's tallest structure, Saudi is undergoing some serious changes
Bret Baier interviews Saudi Prince: Israel peace, 9/11 ties, Iran nuke fears: 'Cannot see another Hiroshima'
Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman answered all questions put to him by Fox News' Bret Baier, including questions about Jamal Khashoggi's murder and ties to the 9/11 attacks.
MBS is one scary guy. He has so much power and such wealth who knows what his intentions really are? He seems to know everyone, even Putin and Xi. Yet he is the biggest buyer of US military equipment, which is the best in the world, so no real surprise, as I said MBS is very smart, but scary.
So what does the forum think of MBS, a dependable ME ally or an evil duplicitous adversary? When the king dies, MBS will be the new king of SA.
I feel complicit in Maga's hijacking the thread. But first I think the US overreacted to Kashoggi's murder. It didn't happen on US soil. (see Canada and the sikh). If Iraq taught the idiots in this country that still think we can tell other countries what form of govt they MUST have, it should have been that.
Trump admires countries that abuse women, cut off body parts, including heads, and practice a religion that is incompatable with a democratic-republic.
Most of us, blessedly (-:, do not join him in that weird obsession, but still, if he'd just focused on intl relations rather than enriching himself and family, I'd honestly give him a thurmbs up. The gop created Isis by invading Iraq. And Trump did continue killing them, which is one thing Obama got right.
MbS's main concern is his
Saudi Arabia has always been courteous to every US president. They think Trump is crazy.own country and "subjects." He wants a price of oil that the US doesn't like paying. Jimmy Carter, of all people, got us to be energy independent ... and we have not been so ever since. But we can achieve it again with much less cost by simply going to EV's (and for me a hybrid) and using NG ... and wind/solar where it actually makes sense to do so from an efficiency standpoint.
