Zone1 moderators seem biased here. :( because of that, i'm considering abandoning usmb

[peacefan]

Here's a part two, copy of post I made in your 'debt ceiling' thread;
You and the ones supporting UBI are just parasitic thieves.
Others will have to work more and harder so that more can be taken from them to give to you and your UBI fanboys.
Start here and try to get a grasp on the numbers and finance/economics presented.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/
Then, using that time machine function (upper right), you get some gauge on what your Democrat-socialist wealth redistributors(thieves) have done to run up this Nation's Deficit and Debt.
For example, 2008 when Barry Obummer became POTUS;

U.S. National Debt Clock 2008
And 2016, just before he left;

U.S. National Debt Clock 2016

TAX THE RICH A LOT MORE!
NOBODY NEEDS TO BE A BILLIONAIRE.
ONLY CORPORATIONS MAY NEED UP TO 1 BILLION IN SPENDING CASH, FOR THINGS LIKE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF INVENTORY PURCHASE POWER AND MAINTENANCE FEES PAYMENT MEANS.

 

[MisterBeale]

moderators.
this is about your last chance.

 

[IM2]

The OP describes this place to a t.

These chumps can't take it when they get back what they dish out.

 

[peacefan]

You're the fount of BS.
And typical of the deadwood parasite sorts whom don't pull their weight and look for legal ways to steal from others.
FWIW, I am a Republican, and my wife and I would be considered lower middle class over here in USA.
This time of year we are usually busy putting in the gardens and tending the fruit trees, etc. for growing our own food.*
We are also in process of repainting our house.

* Under your UBI scam, no one will want to plant and harvest the crops or work to produce any other goods or services, and the economy will soon collapse into lower than bankruptcy.

have you even looked at that site of mine? try the news app links in my signature then. come on. it's safe. you can do it!

and *i* hate large scale gardening or painting my own house.
luckily the masons love those kinds of jobs. simple & physical, i guess.

and if you wanna call UBI a scam, it's not. it's also not a quick transfer of one system to another. it's a gradual process with plenty of time to indoctrinate new generations properly to prepare them for the new and hopefully better future. we'll have to a more planned economy, a larger government, but the media can and will keep us honest.

 

[Stryder50]

lol, that's a lot of bs. Republicans hoard wealth. and do worse to their fellow man, with their guns and by using soldiers of various types and in various uniform styles that they *act* to be groveling to.
you're on thin ice, Reps.

Part two,
It's clear you know nothing about wealth or money.

Wealth is goods and/or services with market value ~ what others are willing to trade their goods and/or services for.
Money is a device for measuring the value of wealth and dodging barter to provide a more efficient method of trade in goods and services.

You can horde money, which isn't very smart, but it's hard to horde wealth. Either way, it's not very sound.
Those whom have excess wealth will usually use it to invest in ventures for creating more wealth, providing more jobs and increase in good and services.

However, most of your post is incoherrant gibberish with the 'guns'~'soldiers'~'uniforms' babble. And you should recall your nation's recent history when it groveled to the conquering nationalist socialists bordering you.

 

[peacefan]

no sir..... lol..... rofl.... <gets up>.. <giggles some more, hand raised in 'don't attack me now' stance>...

the dispute has been settled already. i've aclimatized to life outside the CDZ

 

[IM2]

You're the fount of BS.
And typical of the deadwood parasite sorts whom don't pull their weight and look for legal ways to steal from others.
FWIW, I am a Republican, and my wife and I would be considered lower middle class over here in USA.
This time of year we are usually busy putting in the gardens and tending the fruit trees, etc. for growing our own food.*
We are also in process of repainting our house.

* Under your UBI scam, no one will want to plant and harvest the crops or work to produce any other goods or services, and the economy will soon collapse into lower than bankruptcy.

BS. But that's what the ultra rich tell you.

 

[Stryder50]

have you even looked at that site of mine? try the news app links in my signature then. come on. it's safe. you can do it!

and *i* hate large scale gardening or painting my own house.
luckily the masons love those kinds of jobs. simple & physical, i guess.

and if you wanna call UBI a scam, it's not. it's also not a quick transfer of one system to another. it's a gradual process with plenty of time to indoctrinate new generations properly to prepare them for the new and hopefully better future. we'll have to a more planned economy, a larger government, but the media can and will keep us honest.

Nope. Your posts are poor advertisements for your site. Haven't time to waste on more drivel.
Clearly you can't/won't carry your own weight in this world and expect others to carry and support you. As I've said, you are clearly a parasite~slug~waste of human skin.

Your "Brave New World" will be a path to revised "1984".

 

[peacefan]

Part two,
It's clear you know nothing about wealth or money.

Wealth is goods and/or services with market value ~ what others are willing to trade their goods and/or services for.
Money is a device for measuring the value of wealth and dodging barter to provide a more efficient method of trade in goods and services.

You can horde money, which isn't very smart, but it's hard to horde wealth. Either way, it's not very sound.
Those whom have excess wealth will usually use it to invest in ventures for creating more wealth, providing more jobs and increase in good and services.

However, most of your post is incoherrant gibberish with the 'guns'~'soldiers'~'uniforms' babble. And you should recall your nation's recent history when it groveled to the conquering nationalist socialists bordering you.

6000 sq feet homes, multiple of those to a single owner sometimes, a private jet of course, sports car collection, superyachts, NOBODY SHOULD BE SO VANE AS TO NEED THAT!

and the average citizen's respect for soldiers and cops is enormous, i count myself as an average citizen here btw.
but the rich - they see soldiers mostly as brave useful idiots. a 'lower social class'.
and i'm not saying this is true for all the rich, i'm saying it's true among too many rich families.
that's all.

 

[Stryder50]

BS. But that's what the ultra rich tell you.

A drop in the buck compared to the BS you peddle!
What I come to expect from another socialist parasitic thief.

 

[MisterBeale]

where's the forum rules?

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[peacefan]

Nope. Your posts are poor advertisements for your site. Haven't time to waste on more drivel.
Clearly you can't/won't carry your own weight in this world and expect others to carry and support you. As I've said, you are clearly a parasite~slug~waste of human skin.

Your "Brave New World" will be a path to revised "1984".

that site of mine is a photo+video backgrounded semi-transparent RSS aggregator masterpiece that took me over 20 years to evolve to the point where in my country it takes less than a second to start up.
during the same time, i had the US' back in the war on terror against Muslims on various other forums.
i helped shape international diplomacy. yes, really and truly. my proposals became world-leader decisions sometime later after i had circulated them on forums and in email to government leaders.
doing all that very often involved days of 16 or more hours of work per day.

and you dare call me a slug.
fool.

 

[IM2]

Part two,
It's clear you know nothing about wealth or money.

Wealth is goods and/or services with market value ~ what others are willing to trade their goods and/or services for.
Money is a device for measuring the value of wealth and dodging barter to provide a more efficient method of trade in goods and services.

You can horde money, which isn't very smart, but it's hard to horde wealth. Either way, it's not very sound.
Those whom have excess wealth will usually use it to invest in ventures for creating more wealth, providing more jobs and increase in good and services.

However, most of your post is incoherrant gibberish with the 'guns'~'soldiers'~'uniforms' babble. And you should recall your nation's recent history when it groveled to the conquering nationalist socialists bordering you.

More right wing babbling. The trickle down theory didn't work. The wealthy did not invest.

“Since the beginning of the 1980s, employment relations in U.S. industrial corporations have undergone three major structural changes— which I summarize as rationalization, marketization, and globalization—that have permanently eliminated middle-class jobs. From the early 1980s, rationalization, characterized by plant closings, eliminated the jobs of unionized blue-collar workers. From the early 1990s, marketization, characterized by the end of a career with one company as an employment norm, placed the job security of middle-aged and older white-collar workers in jeopardy. From the early 2000s, globalization, characterized by the movement of employment offshore, left all members of the U.S. labor force, even those with advanced educational credentials and substantial work experience, vulnerable to displacement.”

The quote was from a paper titled “The Financialization of the U.S. Corporation: What Has Been Lost, and How It Can Be Regained,” by William Lazonick. In this paper, he describes the forces that created the changes in American business that are the causes for the current weakened state of the American worker. American business strategy shifted from using profits to create jobs to match the changes caused by progress as was done in the past and focused on increasing the return on shareholder investments. According to Lazonick, this was based on “agency theory,” a theory with the premise that only shareholders have a stake in the distribution of corporate profits because they invest the money. The implementation of agency theory into practice appears to have left out one crucial aspect in the corporate equation: the value of the worker’s time.

“Once U.S. corporations adopted these structural changes in employment, however, they often pursued these employment strategies purely for financial gain. Some companies closed manufacturing plants, terminated experienced (and generally more expensive) workers, and offshored production to low-wage areas of the world simply to increase profits, often at the expense of the companies’ long-term competitive capabilities and without regard for displaced employees’ long years of service. Moreover, as these changes became embedded in the structure of U.S. employment, business corporations failed to invest in new, higher value-added job creation on a sufficient scale to provide a foundation for equitable and stable growth in the U.S. economy.

 

[IM2]

A drop in the buck compared to the BS you peddle!
What I come to expect from another socialist parasitic thief.

Yeah, whatever, dittohead.

 

[shockedcanadian]

whenever i seem to win an argument in favor of liberalism and equality (internationally or domestically), it's not long before Republican hyenas gang up on me and start insulting me to the core.
when i report such incidents, i get shut out of the discussion (often my own thread).

if this doesn't change, then i'll leave my account unused from then on.
and with that, i predict usmb.com to eventually sink into a petri-dish of Republican verbal diahrea.
so consider your options wisely, moderators.
this is about your last chance.

Don't leave. Stsnd by your principles and make your arguments. I have to deal with trolls and nefarious people of questonable character often and I'm not entrenched in any particular ideology on every issue. I don't even like the predicate of the word ideology but it is what if is. People will receive their reward for what is in their hearts. Will you earn yours or will you meekly abandon your positions?. As a last resort, simply block people. From time to time even I consider enacting this again.

 

[peacefan]

this 'Politics' sub-forum feels like a kids playground for grownups.
or a pub on saturday night, with cops nearby monitoring our every move, providing relative safety for the insults to grow more intense.
and that's going to lead to an orderly just society? bs.

 

[luiza]

blah blah ------
i helped shape international diplomacy. yes, really and truly. my proposals became world-leader decisions sometime later after i had circulated them on forums and in email to government leaders.
doing all that very often involved days of 16 or more hours of work per day.

and you dare call me a slug.

Any likelihood that you are more than a narcisst buffoon is dispelled with this post of yours .
You could not shape wet clay .You are an arrogant fantasist, imo..
You might be better off staying here for a few months and learning from others far more mentally accomplished and experenced that you are , or, are ever likely to be .

 

[basquebromance]

we should all quit en masse until the mods get their act together

who is with me?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

A bunch of taliban like idiots that hate the poor, hate investing in their own fucking country and dream of living in the fucking dark ages. Don't ever expect rationality from them. Just take part in this forum from that view point. The view point that there's no other point then to get a laugh out of their fake and nasty outrage.

Biden and the democrat Reich just doubled the price of everything making poor people decide between groceries or filling the gas tank, but it’s Republicans who “hate the poor”

What a tool!

 

[The Duke]

I tell ya wut, it's worse just about everywhere else.