Missouri Lawmaker Says Consensual Rape in Debate About New Abortion Laws

[Lewdog]

I wonder if he was trying to talk about statutory rape.

Since he mentioned date rape before that, I think he is talking about rape when the woman is in such a condition she can't say no... like too drunk, on drugs, or passed out.

How does a passed out woman consent?

Not saying she can... but I bet that was what this guy was just to refer to.

 

[Correll]

These are the people in the GOP voting in Red states to control women's bodies.

This is what happens when a bunch of men get together to create a law that involves a woman's body.

Lots of laws control people's bodies.

Does it bother you when a woman gets to vote on laws that control men's bodies, or are you a complete hypocrite just spewing shit?

Name a law that controls only men's bodies.

That was a poor moving of the goal posts. I give it a 4.


Try again lefty.



Lots of laws control people's bodies.

Does it bother you when a woman gets to vote on laws that control men's bodies, or are you a complete hypocrite just spewing shit?

She asked for a law that controls men’s bodies

You failed to provide one

She moved the goal posts to hide from the truth, ie that woman legislators are always voting on laws to control men's bodies.


I will be happy to give an example of a law that controls men's bodies.


The law against Murder.

 

[AZGAL]

dumb politician

 

[bodecea]

Yep... plus he is a former law enforcement officer.

"A Missouri state lawmaker was met with hisses when he used the phrase "consensual rape" during a highly charged House debate on a bill that would ban abortions at eight weeks, including in cases of rape and incest.

Republican Rep. Barry Hovis, of Cape Girardeau, said in the chamber Friday that most of the sexual assaults he handled before retiring from law enforcement weren't strangers "jumping out of the bushes" but instead "date rapes or consensual rapes.""

Missouri lawmaker tries to walk back 'consensual rape' remark

These are the idiots making laws for people...



Can someone please define consensual rape?

These are the people in the GOP voting in Red states to control women's bodies.

This is what happens when a bunch of men get together to create a law that involves a woman's body.

Lots of laws control people's bodies.

Does it bother you when a woman gets to vote on laws that control men's bodies, or are you a complete hypocrite just spewing shit?

Name a law that just controls men's bodies.....name one.

 

[Correll]

Yep... plus he is a former law enforcement officer.

"A Missouri state lawmaker was met with hisses when he used the phrase "consensual rape" during a highly charged House debate on a bill that would ban abortions at eight weeks, including in cases of rape and incest.

Republican Rep. Barry Hovis, of Cape Girardeau, said in the chamber Friday that most of the sexual assaults he handled before retiring from law enforcement weren't strangers "jumping out of the bushes" but instead "date rapes or consensual rapes.""

Missouri lawmaker tries to walk back 'consensual rape' remark

These are the idiots making laws for people...



Can someone please define consensual rape?

It takes a Republican to offer a class on 'consensual rape'

I bet he voted for the fornicator N chief ................

You say fornicator like it is a bad thing.


Are you a virgin?

Fascinating..............................

That he thinks that sex between unmarried people is a bad thing?

 

[OldLady]

Yep... plus he is a former law enforcement officer.

"A Missouri state lawmaker was met with hisses when he used the phrase "consensual rape" during a highly charged House debate on a bill that would ban abortions at eight weeks, including in cases of rape and incest.

Republican Rep. Barry Hovis, of Cape Girardeau, said in the chamber Friday that most of the sexual assaults he handled before retiring from law enforcement weren't strangers "jumping out of the bushes" but instead "date rapes or consensual rapes.""

Missouri lawmaker tries to walk back 'consensual rape' remark

These are the idiots making laws for people...



Can someone please define consensual rape?

Statutory rape involves a younger girl and an older male (state laws vary). Charges are brought by the family of the girl, not the girl, who may have been more than happy to engage in the "rape." No doubt that is what he was talking about.

He's not telling us anything new either. Most rapists know their victims.

 

[Lewdog]

Yep... plus he is a former law enforcement officer.

"A Missouri state lawmaker was met with hisses when he used the phrase "consensual rape" during a highly charged House debate on a bill that would ban abortions at eight weeks, including in cases of rape and incest.

Republican Rep. Barry Hovis, of Cape Girardeau, said in the chamber Friday that most of the sexual assaults he handled before retiring from law enforcement weren't strangers "jumping out of the bushes" but instead "date rapes or consensual rapes.""

Missouri lawmaker tries to walk back 'consensual rape' remark

These are the idiots making laws for people...



Can someone please define consensual rape?

So one guy misspeaks while giving a speech.

At least you idiots have something to howl about.

Misspeaks? Consensual rape is him misspeaking? He went into full detail beforehand to try and classify that there are some rapes worse than others... trying to justify why abortion shouldn't be legal even in the case of rape.

He did not misspeak.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Rape. I suppose technically women can rape but that is an exceedingly rare occurrence.
Rape laws apply to men 99% of the time though really it's sexual assault and not rape per se.

 

[bodecea]

Yep... plus he is a former law enforcement officer.

"A Missouri state lawmaker was met with hisses when he used the phrase "consensual rape" during a highly charged House debate on a bill that would ban abortions at eight weeks, including in cases of rape and incest.

Republican Rep. Barry Hovis, of Cape Girardeau, said in the chamber Friday that most of the sexual assaults he handled before retiring from law enforcement weren't strangers "jumping out of the bushes" but instead "date rapes or consensual rapes.""

Missouri lawmaker tries to walk back 'consensual rape' remark

These are the idiots making laws for people...



Can someone please define consensual rape?

Definitely a typical Republican. Republicans are okay with sexual harassers on the Fed and people who commit sexual assault on the Supreme Court. They attack women who come forward.

The bitch lied...anyone with an ounce of sense knows that by now.

Of course it is you....soooooo

Kavanaugh lied under oath. Since you don't have a ounce of sense how would you know? Suburban women showed who they believe by voting for Democrats by a nearly 2-1 margin in some states/.

You lying is so you. Calling her a bitch shows what you think of women.

Calling her a bitch, shows what she thinks of that particular woman.


You are the one conflating the individual with the group.

And....I see your problem too.

 

[bodecea]

Yep... plus he is a former law enforcement officer.

"A Missouri state lawmaker was met with hisses when he used the phrase "consensual rape" during a highly charged House debate on a bill that would ban abortions at eight weeks, including in cases of rape and incest.

Republican Rep. Barry Hovis, of Cape Girardeau, said in the chamber Friday that most of the sexual assaults he handled before retiring from law enforcement weren't strangers "jumping out of the bushes" but instead "date rapes or consensual rapes.""

Missouri lawmaker tries to walk back 'consensual rape' remark

These are the idiots making laws for people...



Can someone please define consensual rape?

These are the people in the GOP voting in Red states to control women's bodies.

This is what happens when a bunch of men get together to create a law that involves a woman's body.

Lots of laws control people's bodies.

Does it bother you when a woman gets to vote on laws that control men's bodies, or are you a complete hypocrite just spewing shit?

Name a law that controls only men's bodies.

That was a poor moving of the goal posts. I give it a 4.


Try again lefty.



Lots of laws control people's bodies.

Does it bother you when a woman gets to vote on laws that control men's bodies, or are you a complete hypocrite just spewing shit?

Name a law that controls only men's bodies. Just one. Go for it.

 

[Correll]

Yep... plus he is a former law enforcement officer.

"A Missouri state lawmaker was met with hisses when he used the phrase "consensual rape" during a highly charged House debate on a bill that would ban abortions at eight weeks, including in cases of rape and incest.

Republican Rep. Barry Hovis, of Cape Girardeau, said in the chamber Friday that most of the sexual assaults he handled before retiring from law enforcement weren't strangers "jumping out of the bushes" but instead "date rapes or consensual rapes.""

Missouri lawmaker tries to walk back 'consensual rape' remark

These are the idiots making laws for people...



Can someone please define consensual rape?

These are the people in the GOP voting in Red states to control women's bodies.

This is what happens when a bunch of men get together to create a law that involves a woman's body.

Lots of laws control people's bodies.

Does it bother you when a woman gets to vote on laws that control men's bodies, or are you a complete hypocrite just spewing shit?

Name a law that just controls men's bodies.....name one.

I already laughed at you for moving the goal post you coward.


What more do you want from me?

 

[Lewdog]

Yep... plus he is a former law enforcement officer.

"A Missouri state lawmaker was met with hisses when he used the phrase "consensual rape" during a highly charged House debate on a bill that would ban abortions at eight weeks, including in cases of rape and incest.

Republican Rep. Barry Hovis, of Cape Girardeau, said in the chamber Friday that most of the sexual assaults he handled before retiring from law enforcement weren't strangers "jumping out of the bushes" but instead "date rapes or consensual rapes.""

Missouri lawmaker tries to walk back 'consensual rape' remark

These are the idiots making laws for people...



Can someone please define consensual rape?

These are the people in the GOP voting in Red states to control women's bodies.

This is what happens when a bunch of men get together to create a law that involves a woman's body.

Lots of laws control people's bodies.

Does it bother you when a woman gets to vote on laws that control men's bodies, or are you a complete hypocrite just spewing shit?

oh, do tell of these laws that women get to vote on that only control men's bodies. You know, the ones equivalent to pregnancy. Also that wasn't what I said. This is a bunch of men with few to ZERO women writing and voting on these laws. Just like the last Republican attempt at a health care plan where there was ZERO women allowed to help write it, even ZERO Republican women.

 

[Correll]

Yep... plus he is a former law enforcement officer.

"A Missouri state lawmaker was met with hisses when he used the phrase "consensual rape" during a highly charged House debate on a bill that would ban abortions at eight weeks, including in cases of rape and incest.

Republican Rep. Barry Hovis, of Cape Girardeau, said in the chamber Friday that most of the sexual assaults he handled before retiring from law enforcement weren't strangers "jumping out of the bushes" but instead "date rapes or consensual rapes.""

Missouri lawmaker tries to walk back 'consensual rape' remark

These are the idiots making laws for people...



Can someone please define consensual rape?

Definitely a typical Republican. Republicans are okay with sexual harassers on the Fed and people who commit sexual assault on the Supreme Court. They attack women who come forward.

The bitch lied...anyone with an ounce of sense knows that by now.

Of course it is you....soooooo

Kavanaugh lied under oath. Since you don't have a ounce of sense how would you know? Suburban women showed who they believe by voting for Democrats by a nearly 2-1 margin in some states/.

You lying is so you. Calling her a bitch shows what you think of women.

Calling her a bitch, shows what she thinks of that particular woman.


You are the one conflating the individual with the group.

And....I see your problem too.

Hint: When I insult you, I am insulting YOU, not other people in the world that might have similar genitalia or skin color.


Do us all a favor, and do not pretend to be too stupid to understand that.

 

[Correll]

These are the people in the GOP voting in Red states to control women's bodies.

This is what happens when a bunch of men get together to create a law that involves a woman's body.

Lots of laws control people's bodies.

Does it bother you when a woman gets to vote on laws that control men's bodies, or are you a complete hypocrite just spewing shit?

Name a law that controls only men's bodies.

That was a poor moving of the goal posts. I give it a 4.


Try again lefty.



Lots of laws control people's bodies.

Does it bother you when a woman gets to vote on laws that control men's bodies, or are you a complete hypocrite just spewing shit?

Name a law that controls only men's bodies. Just one. Go for it.

That was not what we were discussing. YOur desire to move the goal post has been laughed at and denied.



I will laugh at you some more if you would like.

 

[MacTheKnife]

Yep... plus he is a former law enforcement officer.

"A Missouri state lawmaker was met with hisses when he used the phrase "consensual rape" during a highly charged House debate on a bill that would ban abortions at eight weeks, including in cases of rape and incest.

Republican Rep. Barry Hovis, of Cape Girardeau, said in the chamber Friday that most of the sexual assaults he handled before retiring from law enforcement weren't strangers "jumping out of the bushes" but instead "date rapes or consensual rapes.""

Missouri lawmaker tries to walk back 'consensual rape' remark

These are the idiots making laws for people...



Can someone please define consensual rape?

These are the people in the GOP voting in Red states to control women's bodies.

women can do what they want with their bodys,,,its the child that is being killed and thats not her body

Child? This from a poster who thinks that it's ok to have sex with a woman who is saying "No"..........

A lot of women say no ....not really meaning it. Thus some men get confused and if they are under the influence of something it is much more difficult for them to have a clear understanding of what is going on.

Times have changed and men should by now understand the risk they are taking even having consensual sex...especially if they are vulnurable to blackmail....aka....being well known in the community, being famous, being wealthy etc.



Let us face this truthfully and it is not a pleasant topic....a lot of women have rape fantasy's....what is to be made of that?

It is also well known that many if not most raped women have very intense orgasms whilst being raped....it is something they cannot control....their bodies are hard wired like this...and it is this fact that make a lot of them suffer intense guilt over being raped...aka the fact they got such intense pleasure from the act.

It is also known that there is a higher percentage of raped women getting pregnant from rape than from consensual sex....what is to be made of that? Most likely due to the intense orgasms they experience from this form of sex.

There are different forms of rape....the worst being those women who are horribly beaten not even to mention those who are killed by the rapist.

It is a complex topic but it is very clear that women have complex reactions to being raped and some handle it much better than others.

The guilt over the pleasure they get from the act causes many to suffer psychological problems...they cannot reconcile their pleasure with the horrific act...it makes them feel complicit and that is also another reason why many of them do not report they were raped.

It is also well known that some women out of some kind of distorted hatred and desire for revenge etc. will accuse men of rape who are innocent...and this has been known for a long time...hence the laws requiring women to present some actual evidence of being raped.

Though now this has changed drastically....just the word of the woman now carries much more weight than ever previously....and thus it is much more likely now that a innocent man will if not actually convicted of something he did not do will suffer grievious damage to his reputation.

I think it wrong generally speaking to blame the woman for getting raped...many of them deserve criticism for placing themselves in a situation where they became vulnurable or associated with people that they should have known better than to associate with.

Ultimately the jury has to make a decision...but juries are not well informed enough of the complexities of rape.

 

[Lewdog]

This is what happens when a bunch of men get together to create a law that involves a woman's body.

Lots of laws control people's bodies.

Does it bother you when a woman gets to vote on laws that control men's bodies, or are you a complete hypocrite just spewing shit?

Name a law that controls only men's bodies.

That was a poor moving of the goal posts. I give it a 4.


Try again lefty.



Lots of laws control people's bodies.

Does it bother you when a woman gets to vote on laws that control men's bodies, or are you a complete hypocrite just spewing shit?

She asked for a law that controls men’s bodies

You failed to provide one

She moved the goal posts to hide from the truth, ie that woman legislators are always voting on laws to control men's bodies.


I will be happy to give an example of a law that controls men's bodies.


The law against Murder.

That's a law that only control's men's bodies?

 

[Correll]

Yep... plus he is a former law enforcement officer.

"A Missouri state lawmaker was met with hisses when he used the phrase "consensual rape" during a highly charged House debate on a bill that would ban abortions at eight weeks, including in cases of rape and incest.

Republican Rep. Barry Hovis, of Cape Girardeau, said in the chamber Friday that most of the sexual assaults he handled before retiring from law enforcement weren't strangers "jumping out of the bushes" but instead "date rapes or consensual rapes.""

Missouri lawmaker tries to walk back 'consensual rape' remark

These are the idiots making laws for people...



Can someone please define consensual rape?

These are the people in the GOP voting in Red states to control women's bodies.

This is what happens when a bunch of men get together to create a law that involves a woman's body.

Lots of laws control people's bodies.

Does it bother you when a woman gets to vote on laws that control men's bodies, or are you a complete hypocrite just spewing shit?

oh, do tell of these laws that women get to vote on that only control men's bodies. You know, the ones equivalent to pregnancy. Also that wasn't what I said. This is a bunch of men with few to ZERO women writing and voting on these laws. Just like the last Republican attempt at a health care plan where there was ZERO women allowed to help write it, even ZERO Republican women.

1. Your desire to move the goal post is denied. Please consider yourself laughed at.

2. Plenty of woman legislators out there voting on laws that control men's bodies. I don't have a problem with that. It is a woman legislators job to vote on such laws. Only a gender baiting asshole would pretend it was not.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Misspeaks? Consensual rape is him misspeaking? He went into full detail beforehand to try and classify that there are some rapes worse than others... trying to justify why abortion shouldn't be legal even in the case of rape.

He did not misspeak.

Consensual rape is not a contradiction in terms. It's buyer's remorse on the part of the woman and even though it shouldn't be called rape, because at the time it was consensual, any woman can claim after the fact it was rape.
It's just a by product of our society where women are treated like victims and men are always assumed to be beasts.

 

[AZGAL]

this politician needs an education

 

[Lewdog]

Yep... plus he is a former law enforcement officer.

"A Missouri state lawmaker was met with hisses when he used the phrase "consensual rape" during a highly charged House debate on a bill that would ban abortions at eight weeks, including in cases of rape and incest.

Republican Rep. Barry Hovis, of Cape Girardeau, said in the chamber Friday that most of the sexual assaults he handled before retiring from law enforcement weren't strangers "jumping out of the bushes" but instead "date rapes or consensual rapes.""

Missouri lawmaker tries to walk back 'consensual rape' remark

These are the idiots making laws for people...



Can someone please define consensual rape?

These are the people in the GOP voting in Red states to control women's bodies.

This is what happens when a bunch of men get together to create a law that involves a woman's body.

Lots of laws control people's bodies.

Does it bother you when a woman gets to vote on laws that control men's bodies, or are you a complete hypocrite just spewing shit?

oh, do tell of these laws that women get to vote on that only control men's bodies. You know, the ones equivalent to pregnancy. Also that wasn't what I said. This is a bunch of men with few to ZERO women writing and voting on these laws. Just like the last Republican attempt at a health care plan where there was ZERO women allowed to help write it, even ZERO Republican women.

1. Your desire to move the goal post is denied. Please consider yourself laughed at.

2. Plenty of woman legislators out there voting on laws that control men's bodies. I don't have a problem with that. It is a woman legislators job to vote on such laws. Only a gender baiting asshole would pretend it was not.

How did I try to move the goal post? I asked you from the very beginning to name a law that only affects men's bodies... just like my initial statement. The majority of these laws are being written and passed by men... men that can never get pregnant. You know, just like this guy who said "consensual rape."

Do you think if he went to prison and a guy said he could either let him rape him or die... and he said he could rape him, if that is consensual rape?