Mississippi & Louisiana Join Refusal to Honor Same Sex "Marriage"

[JakeStarkey]

states refusing should not be allowed to issue any marriage certificates....for hetros too.....see how long that boycott lasts

They'll lose a lawsuit in a heartbeat if they give an opposite couple a marriage license and turn down a same sex couple.

They will lose their jobs as well.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Those calling themselves libertarians are anything but.

 

[rightwinger]

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

THAT is the question that should have been handled by the court, saying States would have to recognize marriages issued by other States regardless. The State would not have to issue SSM licenses, but would have to recognize out of State ones.

THAT issue was handled by the court. You know that bunch of five unelected judges

No, they skipped that and went full retard on giving a right to people that doesn't exist.

The case had two parts

The first was the applicability of the 14th Amendment
The second was whether states must recognize same sex marriages from other states

The court ruled yes to both

 

[NYcarbineer]

"Marriages in Mississippi, which had been temporarily halted on Friday by an order from Attorney General Jim Hood, resumed in some cities on Monday after Mr. Hood clarified his statement and gave county clerks the right to make their own decisions.

Calling the Supreme Court opinion “the law of the land,” Mr. Hood’s statement said, “If a clerk has issued or decides to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple, there will be no adverse action taken by the attorney general."

He also warned that “a clerk who refuses to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple could be sued by the denied couple and may face liability.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/30/u...iage-ruling-southern-states-fall-in-line.html

 

[mdk]

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

THAT is the question that should have been handled by the court, saying States would have to recognize marriages issued by other States regardless. The State would not have to issue SSM licenses, but would have to recognize out of State ones.

THAT issue was handled by the court. You know that bunch of five unelected judges

No, they skipped that and went full retard on giving a right to people that doesn't exist.

The case had two parts

The first was the applicability of the 14th Amendment
The second was whether states must recognize same sex marriages from other states

The court ruled yes to both

Not exactly, the court ruled yes on the first question, making the second question moot.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Guess what?

Clerks begin issuing same-sex marriage licenses in Miss.

 

[rightwinger]

"Marriages in Mississippi, which had been temporarily halted on Friday by an order from Attorney General Jim Hood, resumed in some cities on Monday after Mr. Hood clarified his statement and gave county clerks the right to make their own decisions.

Calling the Supreme Court opinion “the law of the land,” Mr. Hood’s statement said, “If a clerk has issued or decides to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple, there will be no adverse action taken by the attorney general."

He also warned that “a clerk who refuses to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple could be sued by the denied couple and may face liability.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/30/u...iage-ruling-southern-states-fall-in-line.html

I love that response by redneck Attorney Generals. "I will not force you, but you are on your own if you get sued"

 

[martybegan]

Marty is the master of settled constitutional law.

You bozo.

Shooo, adults are talking.

yes we are. that does not and cannot include you.

Defending FarkeyStarkey, how white knight of you.

Shush, child, the adults are talking.

Using the same line that was used to slap you around is the primordial ooze of message board tactics, try something else.

 

[martybegan]

If it settled why is there still a considerable movement to overturn it?

It's in force, its not settled. To be settled an amendment would have to be passed to actually put it in the document, not as part of an overturnable decision. And even then it wouldn't be settled.

Citizens United is settled- even though there is a considerable movement to overturn it.

An amendment would not 'settle' the issue- it just means that fewer people would disagree- there will always be disagreement.

To this day- the issue of 'mixed race marriage' is not settled- there are still people who are against mixed race marriage.

The number of people who are against mixed raced marriage so much they would ban it via government action is tiny enough that we could call the matter "settled". Even if people don't like it, most of them don't want to do anything about it except sneer at it and maybe disown their kids if one of them ever enters into one.

For abortion, you have a sizable portion of our country that would LOVE to overturn Roe v. Wade (including ironically, Roe).

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

"Settled" means the underlying conflict has been resolved. Look a few posts up to my example on the aftermath of WWI vs. the aftermath of WW2 as an example of resolved conflict vs. unresolved conflict.

And your example is an exaggeration to be sure. The thing is there are tons of people in this country, and they happened to be clustered together, that think abortion should be illegal, and marriage should be between a man and a woman. There are far far far far fewer who want to go back to miscegenation laws, and fewer than that who actively support such things.

And those numbers will shrink for the same reason the racialists did. They will be dying out. The millennials have made it quite clear that they have no time for social con far right's stupidities.

Silly, farkey, always ignoring the cyclical nature of history.

 

[martybegan]

The number of people who are against mixed raced marriage so much they would ban it via government action is tiny enough that we could call the matter "settled". Even if people don't like it, most of them don't want to do anything about it except sneer at it and maybe disown their kids if one of them ever enters into one.

For abortion, you have a sizable portion of our country that would LOVE to overturn Roe v. Wade (including ironically, Roe).

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

abortion and gay marriage are best handled by the states so you can move rather than have the majority viewpoint shoved down your throat. American is supposed to be about freedom, not mob rule.

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

It is simply a case of MYOB, Marty.

Fine, then why can't gay couples MTOB and go to another baker?

 

[martybegan]

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

THAT is the question that should have been handled by the court, saying States would have to recognize marriages issued by other States regardless. The State would not have to issue SSM licenses, but would have to recognize out of State ones.

THAT issue was handled by the court. You know that bunch of five unelected judges

No, they skipped that and went full retard on giving a right to people that doesn't exist.

The case had two parts

The first was the applicability of the 14th Amendment
The second was whether states must recognize same sex marriages from other states

The court ruled yes to both

Actually the 1st one rendered the 2nd one moot, but I understand your confusion on complex issues of constitutional law. It comes from letting other people think for you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Marty is the master of settled constitutional law.

You bozo.

Shooo, adults are talking.

yes we are. that does not and cannot include you.

Defending FarkeyStarkey, how white knight of you.

Shush, child, the adults are talking.

Using the same line that was used to slap you around is the primordial ooze of message board tactics, try something else.

It fits your case perfectly. Shush.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Depends on the PA laws.

 

[martybegan]

Shooo, adults are talking.

yes we are. that does not and cannot include you.

Defending FarkeyStarkey, how white knight of you.

Shush, child, the adults are talking.

Using the same line that was used to slap you around is the primordial ooze of message board tactics, try something else.

It fits your case perfectly. Shush.

Go play in traffic.

 

[martybegan]

Depends on the PA laws.

Who are you replying to, dumbass?

 

[JakeStarkey]

yes we are. that does not and cannot include you.

Defending FarkeyStarkey, how white knight of you.

Shush, child, the adults are talking.

Using the same line that was used to slap you around is the primordial ooze of message board tactics, try something else.

It fits your case perfectly. Shush.

Go play in traffic.

Weak.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Depends on the PA laws.

Who are you replying to, dumbass?

Weak.

 

[martybegan]

Defending FarkeyStarkey, how white knight of you.

Shush, child, the adults are talking.

Using the same line that was used to slap you around is the primordial ooze of message board tactics, try something else.

It fits your case perfectly. Shush.

Go play in traffic.

Weak.

Nope.

 

[martybegan]

Depends on the PA laws.

Who are you replying to, dumbass?

Weak.

Nope.

 

[Seawytch]

The Heritage Foundation thinks so. You've heard of them, yes?

Reducing Poverty by Promoting Healthy Marriage

Key word is "healthy".

And you have evidence that our marriages aren't?

Common sense would tell you that two guys sticking their dicks into fecal matter, probably isn't healthy.

But........here's more.

Homosexual couples less healthy than married heterosexuals study finds News LifeSite

On The Unhealthy Homosexual Lifestyle

Facts About Youth Health Risks of the Homosexual Lifestyle

The Facts on the Gay Movement

Shigella Infections among Gay & Bisexual Men (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention - April 9, 2015) - Shigella germs are present in the feces (poop) of people with shigellosis while they have diarrhea and up to a few weeks after the diarrhea has gone away. Shigella is very contagious; exposure to even a tiny amount of fecal matter with Shigella in it can cause infection. Symptoms usually start 1-2 days after exposure, but may range from 12-96 hours. Transmission of Shigella infection occurs in the following ways:
- Person-to-person contact. Shigella passes from stools or soiled fingers of one person to the mouth of another person, which can happen during sexual activity. Oral-anal sex, or oral stimulation (i.e., sucking or licking) of the anus (anilingus or "rimming"), may be especially risky.
- Eating food contaminated by someone who has shigellosis.
- Swallowing recreational or drinking water that was contaminated by infected fecal matter.

You're comparing single people to married people.

Where are the lesbians?

I'm comparing lifestyles.

The lesbians are eating at the Y.

Then you should be comparing single "lifestyles" to married "lifestyles". Of course, that wouldn't support your homophobic biases...

Lesbians are in the lowest risk categories for STDs, further destroying your "argument" (and I use the term VERY loosely).