Million dead fish swamp L.A.-area marina

[WillowTree]

LOS ANGELES — Sardines and other small fish in the hundreds of thousands washed up dead overnight in the harbor area of Redondo Beach, Calif., just south of Los Angeles, puzzling authorities and triggering a cleanup effort.


..Local television news footage showed the mass of dead fish, said by a police spokesman to be about a foot deep on the surface, choking the waters in and around dozens of private boat slips in the King Harbor Marina.

Biologists have tentatively concluded that the fish died from oxygen deprivation after being driven by a storm into a closed-off pier area, California Department of Fish and Game spokesman Andrew Hughan told Reuters.

Million dead fish overwhelm marina - U.S. news - Environment - msnbc.com

 

[waltky]

Big ol' fish tale...

Decline of Big Fish Upsets Ocean Balance
March 04, 2011 - More prey and fewer predators could throw the ecosystem out of balance

By 2050, small fish could dominate the oceans because of the rapid decline of larger, predator fish. In a new report, the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization finds that one-third of the world’s fisheries are overexploited, depleted or recovering and in urgent need of rebuilding. At a recent meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting in Washington, University of British Columbia fisheries expert Villy Christensen predicted the eventual preponderance of small fish.

Twenty years ago, Christensen designed a computer tool called Ecopath to study complex marine ecosystems. Now Ecopath has 6,000 users in 155 countries. Christensen used 200 marine models from the Ecopath database for the analysis released at the Washington meeting. "We are estimating that the predatory fish, the large fish that eat other fish, have declined by two-thirds in the 100 years and the decrease is accelerating. In the last 40 years alone, 54 percent of that decline occurred."

Over the same 100-year period, Christensen says, prey fish like anchovies, herring and sardines have more than doubled. "We’ve never had numbers like that before. We expected it might be the case, now we have numbers documenting it. What has happened here really is that we’ve changed the wild ocean. We’ve removed the big fish."

More prey and fewer predators could throw the ecosystem out of balance, Christensen says. That could promote the growth of alga blooms which deplete oxygen in the water column. Christensen fears that marine animals and plants would then begin dying off in huge numbers. "If we look ahead we are going to see less stable ecosystems in the oceans. There would be forage fish and very few of the organisms that control our ecosystem. We need the predators to keep the populations healthy of all the prey fish. That will continue unless we change the way we manage the oceans."

What’s driving these trends? Jacqueline Alder, coordinator of the Marine and Coastal Ecosystem Branch of the United Nations Environment Program, believes it is overfishing and pollution, complicated by global climate change. She says the future health of the ocean depends on fishing less, reducing wasteful by-catch, and taking action on multiple threats to marine ecosystems. "We need to think about expanding our marine protected area systems and also better management of those systems, reducing pollution, reducing the amount of nutrients coming in, including things like agricultural runoff." Alder adds that managers must consider restoring mangroves and coral reefs, "making it so those nursery ecosystems have fish that will grow up into adults that will be available for the fishing community in 2050."

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[waltky]

'Something Strange Is Happening'...

Birds are falling from the sky, fish are floating up dead
February 14, 2013 - Most people read the papers, forget most and get on with the day. Few people see the patterns; the big picture of what is happening in the world. One of the things that has been happening with greater and greater frequency is large and mysterious animal deaths. Something that punsters call flockalypse (as in apocalypse or the end of the world). A map has come out in Google showing the die offs in 2010/2011.

These are only a small percentage of the mysterious mass deaths that actually took place. Not listed here are the U.S. Geological Service’s website which lists about 90 mass deaths of birds and other wildlife from June to December 12, 2010. Time Magazine listed these as unsolved mysteries long before 2010:“In 2004, an estimated 300 hippopotamuses in Uganda’s Queen Elizabeth National Park died.

In June 2010, 82 hippos died. In January 2006, 200 sea turtles washed up on the shores of El Salvador. Millions of honeybees started disappearing in 2006. According to the Department of Agriculture, reported bee-colony death rates were 29% in 2009, rising to 34% in 2010. The four main bumblebee populations have plummeted more than 90% in the past 20 years. A mysterious fungal disease has been killing bats across the U.S. since 2006. More than 1 million bats have died .In 2008, 60 pilot whales beached themselves along the rocky coast of the southern Australian island state of Tasmania.

A week later, 150 long-finned pilot whales did the same. Then, in January 2009, 45 sperm whales stranded themselves on a Tasmanian sandbar. 194 pilot whales and a handful of bottleneck dolphins beached themselves along the same coastline in March. In June 2009 hundreds of pelicans from Oregon to Mexico were found dead .In 2009, 1,200 penguins were found dead in March in southern Chile. In April, millions of sardines washed ashore nearby. Thousands of Andean flamingos abandoned their nests in Chile, leaving their 2,000 chicks to die in their shells. In late May, 60 pelicans were found dead in Chile’s central coast.

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[waltky]

Granny says it sounds kinda fishy to her...

Masses of dead fish in Rio baffle scientists
Sun, Nov 09, 2014 - Thousands of dead fish have begun mysteriously washing up in the polluted Rio de Janeiro bay that is to host sailing events at the 2016 Olympics — and experts are at a loss to explain why.

Guanabara Bay has already been the subject of concern among sailors who are to compete in Rio because of the human sewage that gets pumped into its waters. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has expressed confidence that Guanabara will be fit for purpose by the time of the Games. However, the recent appearance of thousands of dead fish, and the foul stench of their rotting carcasses, has attracted further scrutiny with the Olympics less than two years away. Scientists are baffled by the phenomenon, but say there is no evidence so far to suggest pollution is the cause.

The foul odor first took over the usually peaceful Paqueta Island, where cars are banned and the population of 4,500 people travels on horseback or bicycle among the only baobab trees in Brazil. With the help of a bulldozer, a municipal company has removed 20 tonnes of dead sabalo fish — from the Clupeidae family of herrings and sardines — and four dead sea turtles. “Tests showed that this is not a matter of chemical or toxic water pollution,” Rio do Janeiro State University oceanographer David Zee told reporters.

Dead fish wash ashore on a beach at Guanabara Bay in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Leandro Daemon of the Brazilian National Institute for the Environment, or INEA, agreed that water testing had not identified any toxic chemicals or any unusual change in the water’s pH (potential of hydrogen), salinity or oxygen. “We have no answer yet about what happened, but we can certainly exclude the hypothesis of a chemical pollution killing the fish,” Daemon said. Not everyone is so sure. Worried fishermen and islanders are pointing the finger at the petrochemical activities of state giant Petrobras.

Five of the fish were sent on Tuesday to the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro’s biology department for analysis, and the results are to be announced in a week. Experts want to know if there are any signs of pollution or disease in the entrails or gills. However, Zee said the likeliest scenario was that the deaths are caused by “thermal pollution” of the water. “Sabalo are very sensitive to any lack of oxygen. Warm water temperatures such as those recorded several days ago — ranging from 27oC to 30oC — in shallow water decrease the solubility of oxygen,” Zee said.

Masses of dead fish in Rio baffle scientists - Taipei Times

 

[skookerasbil]

Clearly no possible correlation to Fukishima!!!

 

[Crick]

Are you suggesting that it is or that someone else suggested it was or are you just posting to post?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

LOS ANGELES — Sardines and other small fish in the hundreds of thousands washed up dead overnight in the harbor area of Redondo Beach, Calif., just south of Los Angeles, puzzling authorities and triggering a cleanup effort.


..Local television news footage showed the mass of dead fish, said by a police spokesman to be about a foot deep on the surface, choking the waters in and around dozens of private boat slips in the King Harbor Marina.

Biologists have tentatively concluded that the fish died from oxygen deprivation after being driven by a storm into a closed-off pier area, California Department of Fish and Game spokesman Andrew Hughan told Reuters.

Million dead fish overwhelm marina - U.S. news - Environment - msnbc.com

Mass die-offs happen all the time, but every time a new one does the media don't mention this fact so it makes it seem weirder than it is in fact is.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Global Warming...has to be...what else can cause it?

 

[Crick]

No one has suggested that, though, have they.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Global Warming...has to be...what else can cause it?

Sonic concussion comes to mind. Active sonar pings from subs or predatory mammals like sperm whales could do it. US Navy subs and surface vessels routinely use large sonar contacts like whales and fish schools as practice targets.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

NRDC Press Archive Navy Sued Over Harm to Whales From Mid-Frequency Sonar

Stop U.S. Navy s War on Whales Brenda Peterson

Whales War Games and National Security 8211 Whales as Practice Targets - Candace Calloway Whiting

2005, 2014, 2012 respectviely. It is fact.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Clearly no possible correlation to Fukishima!!!

Before the major quake in the early 80's this same event occurred. Out-gassing prior to a major slip/strike fault movement has been recorded over and over. Just hope it is followed up by a nice volcano in the bay. That area needs a good clean up IMHO.

The point is, there are many reasons and causes. At this point it is pure speculation but rest assured the alarmists will find some way to attach it to global warming even when there is no connection.

 

[Billy_Bob]

NRDC Press Archive Navy Sued Over Harm to Whales From Mid-Frequency Sonar

Stop U.S. Navy s War on Whales Brenda Peterson

Whales War Games and National Security 8211 Whales as Practice Targets - Candace Calloway Whiting

2005, 2014, 2012 respectviely. It is fact.

The US Navy no longer uses active sonar on biologics. They haven't for over 10 years.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

NRDC Press Archive Navy Sued Over Harm to Whales From Mid-Frequency Sonar

Stop U.S. Navy s War on Whales Brenda Peterson

Whales War Games and National Security 8211 Whales as Practice Targets - Candace Calloway Whiting

2005, 2014, 2012 respectviely. It is fact.

The US Navy no longer uses active sonar on biologics. They haven't for over 10 years.

According to whom? Them? Is that why there's current stories about it? Because it ended a decade ago? Use your loaf.

 

[Billy_Bob]

NRDC Press Archive Navy Sued Over Harm to Whales From Mid-Frequency Sonar

Stop U.S. Navy s War on Whales Brenda Peterson

Whales War Games and National Security 8211 Whales as Practice Targets - Candace Calloway Whiting

2005, 2014, 2012 respectviely. It is fact.

The US Navy no longer uses active sonar on biologics. They haven't for over 10 years.

According to whom? Them? Is that why there's current stories about it? Because it ended a decade ago? Use your loaf.

It has been against Navy regs and DOD rules for over a decade. its use would end careers of the officers who allowed it. I notice the books offer no proof just wild conjecture..

 

[peach174]

NRDC Press Archive Navy Sued Over Harm to Whales From Mid-Frequency Sonar

Stop U.S. Navy s War on Whales Brenda Peterson

Whales War Games and National Security 8211 Whales as Practice Targets - Candace Calloway Whiting

2005, 2014, 2012 respectviely. It is fact.

The US Navy no longer uses active sonar on biologics. They haven't for over 10 years.

Because they said they haven't?
What the Military says and what they really do are two very different things.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

NRDC Press Archive Navy Sued Over Harm to Whales From Mid-Frequency Sonar

Stop U.S. Navy s War on Whales Brenda Peterson

Whales War Games and National Security 8211 Whales as Practice Targets - Candace Calloway Whiting

2005, 2014, 2012 respectviely. It is fact.

The US Navy no longer uses active sonar on biologics. They haven't for over 10 years.

According to whom? Them? Is that why there's current stories about it? Because it ended a decade ago? Use your loaf.

It has been against Navy regs and DOD rules for over a decade. its use would end careers of the officers who allowed it. I notice the books offer no proof just wild conjecture..

Well that's a relief. Nice to know regs and laws prevent crimes like murder and such.

 

[peach174]

NRDC Press Archive Navy Sued Over Harm to Whales From Mid-Frequency Sonar

Stop U.S. Navy s War on Whales Brenda Peterson

Whales War Games and National Security 8211 Whales as Practice Targets - Candace Calloway Whiting

2005, 2014, 2012 respectviely. It is fact.

The US Navy no longer uses active sonar on biologics. They haven't for over 10 years.

According to whom? Them? Is that why there's current stories about it? Because it ended a decade ago? Use your loaf.

It has been against Navy regs and DOD rules for over a decade. its use would end careers of the officers who allowed it. I notice the books offer no proof just wild conjecture..

Careers are also ended when they speak out about classified information but they still do it.

 

[Billy_Bob]

I think its funny how alarmists jump to man made causes and ignore natural ones. The last time they ignored natural ones billions of dollars of freeway collapsed in a major earth quake.

 

[peach174]

I think its funny how alarmists jump to man made causes and ignore natural ones. The last time they ignored natural ones billions of dollars of freeway collapsed in a major earth quake.

You got any ideas of how to stop the earth quakes and volcano's?
If you do get in touch with the scientists you could make lots of money.