Mike Pence is a Dangerous Bigot and Theocrat

While Trump is no champion of LGBT causes, Pence is a dangerous ideologue and theocrat who fervently opposes LGBT people. While Trump is driven by personal gain and what ever seems to be politically expediate at any given moment, Pence believes that he is pursuing a divine cause at the direction of God.

White House Streams Church Service Claiming ‘Demonic Spirit’ Causes Homosexuality

Vice President Mike Pence called for people to remember the words of Martin Luther King Jr. “in these divided times” while attending a church where a bishop described how “the devil” is to blame for gay people.

Pence spoke at the Holy City Church of God in Christ in Memphis, Tennessee, on Sunday ahead of Martin Luther King Jr. Day in order to pay tribute to the civil rights icon.

My God! The hypocrisy! Promoting hate while paying tribute to King!! Now, we do not know what position King would take today on the various aspects af LGBT issues , but there is good reason to believe that he would not be engaging in the sort of vicious bigotry and fear mongering that we see here.

Here is an example of how King conducted himself as opposed to what we see today on the part of Pence and these ass hat preachers

What would Martin Luther King Jr think of the LGBT rights movement?

“I am a boy, but I feel about boys the way I ought to feel about girls. I don’t want my parents to know about me. What can I do? Is there any place where I can go for help?”

Though Dr King’s response may seem ill-informed by modern standards, his advice to the boy is remarkably calm and polite, given the fears and active scaremongering about gay people at the time.

Dr King responded: “Your problem is not at all an uncommon one. However, it does require careful attention. The type of feeling that you have toward boys is probably not an innate tendency, but something that has been culturally acquired.”

He continued: “In order to do this I would suggest that you see a good psychiatrist who can assist you in bringing to the forefront of conscience all of those experiences
Pence publicly stands by everything Trump does, but he's probably the biggest
backstabber lurking there.
 
First, allow me to thank you for supporting my position on homosexuality and abortion. However, please note that I did not advocate silencing those with bigoted views in my post. In general, I am in favor of giving the likes of Pence and this crazy ass Reverend a platform- expose them to the light of day for all to see. In doing so , I believe that decent people-and I believe that most are decent - will see them for what they are and reject and condemn them . Driving them into the shadows will only allow them to fester and grow.

There's something funny about nearly all your threads.

Most of your threads, you start with some premise that to you, seems “decent”, sane, and reasonable, but it very quickly becomes clear that nearly ever genuinely decent or sane person thinks your premise is outrageously wrong. You're nearly always left completely befuddled by the responses you get; it's obvious that you are so deeply mired in your madness and evil that you truly cannot imagine how your positions look to sane, decent people.

You speak of exposing others to “the light of day”so that decent people will reject them; and it nearly always ends up being you that is thus exposed and rejected; as has clearly happened in this thread, and as hap;pens in most of your other threads.


As far as what may have transpired between you and I in the past, I honestly don't recall. However, I will say that the right of free speech, like all rights, is not without it's limits. There is a difference between free speech and speech that incites violence and hate. If I took action against you, it must have been in response to something that you said that was particularly offensive.

You problem is that you have a deep hatred for religion, and you have a deep hatred for any rational standards of decency and morality, and for people who hold to these. Almost every post of yours is an expression of this burning hatred, and of a desire that those whom you hate should suffer some adverse consequences. Most of your postings come much closer to meeting any rational definition of “hate speech”, than anything that you try to denounce as such.

Not only are most of your opinions rooted in madness, but so is your inability to grasp how you come across to sane people; hence your repeated falling into the very same trap.

This is a person who loathes Fidelity in a marriage relationship. I've noticed that the attacks are always aimed at people who are not promiscuous. This certainly is no coincidence. My guess would be that we are speaking to a person who dislikes himself because of his own promiscuity or the promiscuity of somebody very close to him and seeks to rectify his self-image by attacking those who manage to be successful in building a decent and good life.
It takes a special kind of stupid for someone to think that they know something about someone's personal life based on their religion. Mike Pigpence degusts me, not for his fidelity, or his religious beliefs, but because he is a bigot.

You're especially easy to read. Oddly the thing you're objecting to is exactly what you're doing to Mike pence but that's par for the course with you guys. Lefty owns no mirrors. The repeated use of the word pig opens the door for me and I'll be goddamn if I'm not going to walk right through it. Here's a guy who's had a long-standing marriage and a good relationship with his wife and it just destroys you to look at it. That leaves just a few common-sense options now doesn't it?

Jo
Get ready to feel real stupid. I've been married for 32 fucking years


So what? Trump has been married 36 fucking years.
 
First, allow me to thank you for supporting my position on homosexuality and abortion. However, please note that I did not advocate silencing those with bigoted views in my post. In general, I am in favor of giving the likes of Pence and this crazy ass Reverend a platform- expose them to the light of day for all to see. In doing so , I believe that decent people-and I believe that most are decent - will see them for what they are and reject and condemn them . Driving them into the shadows will only allow them to fester and grow.

There's something funny about nearly all your threads.

Most of your threads, you start with some premise that to you, seems “decent”, sane, and reasonable, but it very quickly becomes clear that nearly ever genuinely decent or sane person thinks your premise is outrageously wrong. You're nearly always left completely befuddled by the responses you get; it's obvious that you are so deeply mired in your madness and evil that you truly cannot imagine how your positions look to sane, decent people.

You speak of exposing others to “the light of day”so that decent people will reject them; and it nearly always ends up being you that is thus exposed and rejected; as has clearly happened in this thread, and as hap;pens in most of your other threads.


As far as what may have transpired between you and I in the past, I honestly don't recall. However, I will say that the right of free speech, like all rights, is not without it's limits. There is a difference between free speech and speech that incites violence and hate. If I took action against you, it must have been in response to something that you said that was particularly offensive.

You problem is that you have a deep hatred for religion, and you have a deep hatred for any rational standards of decency and morality, and for people who hold to these. Almost every post of yours is an expression of this burning hatred, and of a desire that those whom you hate should suffer some adverse consequences. Most of your postings come much closer to meeting any rational definition of “hate speech”, than anything that you try to denounce as such.

Not only are most of your opinions rooted in madness, but so is your inability to grasp how you come across to sane people; hence your repeated falling into the very same trap.

This is a person who loathes Fidelity in a marriage relationship. I've noticed that the attacks are always aimed at people who are not promiscuous. This certainly is no coincidence. My guess would be that we are speaking to a person who dislikes himself because of his own promiscuity or the promiscuity of somebody very close to him and seeks to rectify his self-image by attacking those who manage to be successful in building a decent and good life.
It takes a special kind of stupid for someone to think that they know something about someone's personal life based on their religion. Mike Pigpence degusts me, not for his fidelity, or his religious beliefs, but because he is a bigot.

You're especially easy to read. Oddly the thing you're objecting to is exactly what you're doing to Mike pence but that's par for the course with you guys. Lefty owns no mirrors. The repeated use of the word pig opens the door for me and I'll be goddamn if I'm not going to walk right through it. Here's a guy who's had a long-standing marriage and a good relationship with his wife and it just destroys you to look at it. That leaves just a few common-sense options now doesn't it?

Jo
Get ready to feel real stupid. I've been
married for 32 fucking years

Marriages today are a dime a dozen....the most promiscuous people are often married.

What is a rarity however is the exceptionally honorable relationship that Mike Pence and his wife have in their marriage. It drives the left absolutely crazy to see that it can be done. Not sure where you get the idea that you can use the word pig in relation to the man. Now if you were talking about your hero Bill Clinton I could understand that. Hell I could even understand if you called Trump a pig. But Pence? You have to be missing a few screws. Remember just prior to the final election during the scandal stages Mike Pence said publicly that he was disgusted by Trump's Behavior. So I give the guy credit for having the power of his belief behind him.
Surprisingly Trump did not dump him at that point. That was a smart move on Trump's part.

Jo
 
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Pence has always struck me as a useless tool, chosen to enhance Midwestern states voters to support Trump, but nothing inherently evil (unlike his boss). Doubt he will ever be president, but definitely seems like basically decent sort, for a politician. His own comments at the church were not inflammatory. I was disturbed by comments of Obama's preachers and still am.
 
There's something funny about nearly all your threads.

Most of your threads, you start with some premise that to you, seems “decent”, sane, and reasonable, but it very quickly becomes clear that nearly ever genuinely decent or sane person thinks your premise is outrageously wrong. You're nearly always left completely befuddled by the responses you get; it's obvious that you are so deeply mired in your madness and evil that you truly cannot imagine how your positions look to sane, decent people.

You speak of exposing others to “the light of day”so that decent people will reject them; and it nearly always ends up being you that is thus exposed and rejected; as has clearly happened in this thread, and as hap;pens in most of your other threads.


You problem is that you have a deep hatred for religion, and you have a deep hatred for any rational standards of decency and morality, and for people who hold to these. Almost every post of yours is an expression of this burning hatred, and of a desire that those whom you hate should suffer some adverse consequences. Most of your postings come much closer to meeting any rational definition of “hate speech”, than anything that you try to denounce as such.

Not only are most of your opinions rooted in madness, but so is your inability to grasp how you come across to sane people; hence your repeated falling into the very same trap.

This is a person who loathes Fidelity in a marriage relationship. I've noticed that the attacks are always aimed at people who are not promiscuous. This certainly is no coincidence. My guess would be that we are speaking to a person who dislikes himself because of his own promiscuity or the promiscuity of somebody very close to him and seeks to rectify his self-image by attacking those who manage to be successful in building a decent and good life.
It takes a special kind of stupid for someone to think that they know something about someone's personal life based on their religion. Mike Pigpence degusts me, not for his fidelity, or his religious beliefs, but because he is a bigot.

You're especially easy to read. Oddly the thing you're objecting to is exactly what you're doing to Mike pence but that's par for the course with you guys. Lefty owns no mirrors. The repeated use of the word pig opens the door for me and I'll be goddamn if I'm not going to walk right through it. Here's a guy who's had a long-standing marriage and a good relationship with his wife and it just destroys you to look at it. That leaves just a few common-sense options now doesn't it?

Jo
Get ready to feel real stupid. I've been
married for 32 fucking years

Marriages today are a dime a dozen....the most promiscuous people are often married.

What is a rarity however is the exceptionally honorable relationship that Mike Pence and his wife have in their marriage. It drives the left absolutely crazy to see that it can be done. Not sure where you get the idea that you can use the word pig in relation to the man. Now if you were talking about your hero Bill Clinton I could understand that. Hell I could even understand if you called Trump a pig. But Pence? You have to be missing a few screws. Remember just prior to the final election during the scandal stages Mike Pence said publicly that he was disgusted by Trump's Behavior. So I give the guy credit for having the power of his belief behind him.
Surprisingly Trump did not dump him at that point. That was a smart move on Trump's part.

Jo
If you think that none of this makes him a pig, and it probobly doesn't , it tells me that I need to know about you

A Dozen Reasons Why Mike Pence Is Just As Bad As Donald Trump | Right Wing Watch
 
By all reports, Mr. Pence has gone to remarkable lengths to insure that he'll never be subject to temptation or to false accusations of being unfaithful to his wife. He has a policy of never allowing himself to be alone with any woman other than his wife. This must be very frustrating t LIbErals who would love to try yo pull a Kavanaugh-style slanderfest against him
The vast majority of real/normal/non-perverted women would find this an admirable quality in a man, I would imagine.

Perverts live in their own damned world

My wife on occasion has to meet with the city attorney. I asked her once what she thought if I said she could not meet with him alone to prevent any appearance of impropriety.

She just laughed at me. Most women would. Denying women the same opportunity as you would a man in business or in your role as a government is wrong. If your faith requires you to discriminate in your position as a government official you need to find another line of work.
I would expect nothing less from a leftist.

I worked in a major hotel chain and then I was younger.

The manager had to ask a young woman to leave (she was a prostitute). I had to go with him. We had to leave open. door open while in the room.

Do you understand why?

I think you have said enough. Equating a business women with a prostitute.
The point is, even if YOU are perfect, you cannot predict what the other may accuse you of. Pence is prudent. You are a leftist fool.

You don't discriminate against half the population because you are afraid someone may accuse you of something.

Stand up for yourself.
 
If Trump is removed from office, then say HELLO PRESIDENT PENCE. Lol. Too funny. :D


If the Dems have enough votes to remove President Trump, they will have enough to remove Pence as well

The vote to remove Pence would have to be simultaneously or Pence could swear into the Presidency and then he could appoint a new VP.
 
The vote to remove Pence would have to be simultaneously or Pence could swear into the Presidency and then he could appoint a new VP.


Any appointment to the vice presidency under the 25th Amendment has to be confirmed by BOTH houses of Congress, not just the Senate. I think Obstruction would have to be assumed. After all, Pelosi is next in line.
 
You're especially easy to read. Oddly the thing you're objecting to is exactly what you're doing to Mike pence but that's par for the course with you guys. Lefty owns no mirrors. The repeated use of the word pig opens the door for me and I'll be goddamn if I'm not going to walk right through it. Here's a guy who's had a long-standing marriage and a good relationship with his wife and it just destroys you to look at it. That leaves just a few common-sense options now doesn't it?

Don't let it be overlooked that TheOppressivePervert openly admits to being an adulterer and a cuckold, and seems to have no shame or remorse for it. In fact, see this thread of his on the subject.
 
Get ready to feel real stupid. I've been
married for 32 fucking years

Marriages today are a dime a dozen....the most promiscuous people are often married.

Indeed. Marriage means nothing, when both parties feel free to cheat on one another, without any shame or remorse.
The topic is consensual non monogamy. My wife and I were, for many years "into it" Now, for various reasons we are "retired" from the lifestyle, but open to possibilities if the right opportunity presented itself. In recent years it has not. It did work for us, for the most part, and notwithstanding a few "rocky episodes" we mostly have fond memories of our exploits.
 
While Trump is no champion of LGBT causes, Pence is a dangerous ideologue and theocrat who fervently opposes LGBT people. While Trump is driven by personal gain and what ever seems to be politically expediate at any given moment, Pence believes that he is pursuing a divine cause at the direction of God.

White House Streams Church Service Claiming ‘Demonic Spirit’ Causes Homosexuality

Vice President Mike Pence called for people to remember the words of Martin Luther King Jr. “in these divided times” while attending a church where a bishop described how “the devil” is to blame for gay people.

Pence spoke at the Holy City Church of God in Christ in Memphis, Tennessee, on Sunday ahead of Martin Luther King Jr. Day in order to pay tribute to the civil rights icon.

My God! The hypocrisy! Promoting hate while paying tribute to King!! Now, we do not know what position King would take today on the various aspects af LGBT issues , but there is good reason to believe that he would not be engaging in the sort of vicious bigotry and fear mongering that we see here.

Here is an example of how King conducted himself as opposed to what we see today on the part of Pence and these ass hat preachers

What would Martin Luther King Jr think of the LGBT rights movement?

“I am a boy, but I feel about boys the way I ought to feel about girls. I don’t want my parents to know about me. What can I do? Is there any place where I can go for help?”

Though Dr King’s response may seem ill-informed by modern standards, his advice to the boy is remarkably calm and polite, given the fears and active scaremongering about gay people at the time.

Dr King responded: “Your problem is not at all an uncommon one. However, it does require careful attention. The type of feeling that you have toward boys is probably not an innate tendency, but something that has been culturally acquired.”

He continued: “In order to do this I would suggest that you see a good psychiatrist who can assist you in bringing to the forefront of conscience all of those experiences
Pence publicly stands by everything Trump does, but he's probably the biggest
backstabber lurking there.

Pence is just doing his job. He's not president. He is VP, which is effectively nothing.

His job is to support the President, and even Trump supporters know that Trump is utterly unpredictable. He's got a hard job, and he's doing it best he can.
 
While Trump is no champion of LGBT causes, Pence is a dangerous ideologue and theocrat who fervently opposes LGBT people. While Trump is driven by personal gain and what ever seems to be politically expediate at any given moment, Pence believes that he is pursuing a divine cause at the direction of God.

White House Streams Church Service Claiming ‘Demonic Spirit’ Causes Homosexuality

Vice President Mike Pence called for people to remember the words of Martin Luther King Jr. “in these divided times” while attending a church where a bishop described how “the devil” is to blame for gay people.

Pence spoke at the Holy City Church of God in Christ in Memphis, Tennessee, on Sunday ahead of Martin Luther King Jr. Day in order to pay tribute to the civil rights icon.

My God! The hypocrisy! Promoting hate while paying tribute to King!! Now, we do not know what position King would take today on the various aspects af LGBT issues , but there is good reason to believe that he would not be engaging in the sort of vicious bigotry and fear mongering that we see here.

Here is an example of how King conducted himself as opposed to what we see today on the part of Pence and these ass hat preachers

What would Martin Luther King Jr think of the LGBT rights movement?

“I am a boy, but I feel about boys the way I ought to feel about girls. I don’t want my parents to know about me. What can I do? Is there any place where I can go for help?”

Though Dr King’s response may seem ill-informed by modern standards, his advice to the boy is remarkably calm and polite, given the fears and active scaremongering about gay people at the time.

Dr King responded: “Your problem is not at all an uncommon one. However, it does require careful attention. The type of feeling that you have toward boys is probably not an innate tendency, but something that has been culturally acquired.”

He continued: “In order to do this I would suggest that you see a good psychiatrist who can assist you in bringing to the forefront of conscience all of those experiences



How is he supposedly dangerous?
 
Get ready to feel real stupid. I've been
married for 32 fucking years

Marriages today are a dime a dozen....the most promiscuous people are often married.

Indeed. Marriage means nothing, when both parties feel free to cheat on one another, without any shame or remorse.
The topic is consensual non monogamy. My wife and I were, for many years "into it" Now, for various reasons we are "retired" from the lifestyle, but open to possibilities if the right opportunity presented itself. In recent years it has not. It did work for us, for the most part, and notwithstanding a few "rocky episodes" we mostly have fond memories of our exploits.
Swinging is not cheating.
 
While Trump is no champion of LGBT causes, Pence is a dangerous ideologue and theocrat who fervently opposes LGBT people. While Trump is driven by personal gain and what ever seems to be politically expediate at any given moment, Pence believes that he is pursuing a divine cause at the direction of God.

White House Streams Church Service Claiming ‘Demonic Spirit’ Causes Homosexuality

Vice President Mike Pence called for people to remember the words of Martin Luther King Jr. “in these divided times” while attending a church where a bishop described how “the devil” is to blame for gay people.

Pence spoke at the Holy City Church of God in Christ in Memphis, Tennessee, on Sunday ahead of Martin Luther King Jr. Day in order to pay tribute to the civil rights icon.

My God! The hypocrisy! Promoting hate while paying tribute to King!! Now, we do not know what position King would take today on the various aspects af LGBT issues , but there is good reason to believe that he would not be engaging in the sort of vicious bigotry and fear mongering that we see here.

Here is an example of how King conducted himself as opposed to what we see today on the part of Pence and these ass hat preachers

What would Martin Luther King Jr think of the LGBT rights movement?

“I am a boy, but I feel about boys the way I ought to feel about girls. I don’t want my parents to know about me. What can I do? Is there any place where I can go for help?”

Though Dr King’s response may seem ill-informed by modern standards, his advice to the boy is remarkably calm and polite, given the fears and active scaremongering about gay people at the time.

Dr King responded: “Your problem is not at all an uncommon one. However, it does require careful attention. The type of feeling that you have toward boys is probably not an innate tendency, but something that has been culturally acquired.”

He continued: “In order to do this I would suggest that you see a good psychiatrist who can assist you in bringing to the forefront of conscience all of those experiences



How is he supposedly dangerous?
See post 105
 
While Trump is no champion of LGBT causes, Pence is a dangerous ideologue and theocrat who fervently opposes LGBT people. While Trump is driven by personal gain and what ever seems to be politically expediate at any given moment, Pence believes that he is pursuing a divine cause at the direction of God.

White House Streams Church Service Claiming ‘Demonic Spirit’ Causes Homosexuality

Vice President Mike Pence called for people to remember the words of Martin Luther King Jr. “in these divided times” while attending a church where a bishop described how “the devil” is to blame for gay people.

Pence spoke at the Holy City Church of God in Christ in Memphis, Tennessee, on Sunday ahead of Martin Luther King Jr. Day in order to pay tribute to the civil rights icon.

My God! The hypocrisy! Promoting hate while paying tribute to King!! Now, we do not know what position King would take today on the various aspects af LGBT issues , but there is good reason to believe that he would not be engaging in the sort of vicious bigotry and fear mongering that we see here.

Here is an example of how King conducted himself as opposed to what we see today on the part of Pence and these ass hat preachers

What would Martin Luther King Jr think of the LGBT rights movement?

“I am a boy, but I feel about boys the way I ought to feel about girls. I don’t want my parents to know about me. What can I do? Is there any place where I can go for help?”

Though Dr King’s response may seem ill-informed by modern standards, his advice to the boy is remarkably calm and polite, given the fears and active scaremongering about gay people at the time.

Dr King responded: “Your problem is not at all an uncommon one. However, it does require careful attention. The type of feeling that you have toward boys is probably not an innate tendency, but something that has been culturally acquired.”

He continued: “In order to do this I would suggest that you see a good psychiatrist who can assist you in bringing to the forefront of conscience all of those experiences



How is he supposedly dangerous?
See post 105



ONe sentence, telling us your primary fear. Or "fear".


LIke. "He won't let grown men pee with little girls".
 
While Trump is no champion of LGBT causes, Pence is a dangerous ideologue and theocrat who fervently opposes LGBT people. While Trump is driven by personal gain and what ever seems to be politically expediate at any given moment, Pence believes that he is pursuing a divine cause at the direction of God.

White House Streams Church Service Claiming ‘Demonic Spirit’ Causes Homosexuality

Vice President Mike Pence called for people to remember the words of Martin Luther King Jr. “in these divided times” while attending a church where a bishop described how “the devil” is to blame for gay people.

Pence spoke at the Holy City Church of God in Christ in Memphis, Tennessee, on Sunday ahead of Martin Luther King Jr. Day in order to pay tribute to the civil rights icon.

My God! The hypocrisy! Promoting hate while paying tribute to King!! Now, we do not know what position King would take today on the various aspects af LGBT issues , but there is good reason to believe that he would not be engaging in the sort of vicious bigotry and fear mongering that we see here.

Here is an example of how King conducted himself as opposed to what we see today on the part of Pence and these ass hat preachers

What would Martin Luther King Jr think of the LGBT rights movement?

“I am a boy, but I feel about boys the way I ought to feel about girls. I don’t want my parents to know about me. What can I do? Is there any place where I can go for help?”

Though Dr King’s response may seem ill-informed by modern standards, his advice to the boy is remarkably calm and polite, given the fears and active scaremongering about gay people at the time.

Dr King responded: “Your problem is not at all an uncommon one. However, it does require careful attention. The type of feeling that you have toward boys is probably not an innate tendency, but something that has been culturally acquired.”

He continued: “In order to do this I would suggest that you see a good psychiatrist who can assist you in bringing to the forefront of conscience all of those experiences
Pence publicly stands by everything Trump does, but he's probably the biggest
backstabber lurking there.

Pence is just doing his job. He's not president. He is VP, which is effectively nothing.

His job is to support the President, and even Trump supporters know that Trump is utterly unpredictable. He's got a hard job, and he's doing it best he can.
And that makes Pence a nice guy? He is next in line for President and he is dangerous. He also has influence as VP. He is the President of the Senate and has a lot of friends on capital hill. He may also have a lot of influence with McDonald T-Rump
 

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