Michigan state House passes censorship bill to make free speech a felony based on the feelings of someone hearing or reading it

[westwall]

Lib democrats like you want to push homosexuality and cross dressing onto mainstream America and conservative repubs are resisting

The Gator ain't no lib dem. He's a progressive statist

 

[scruffy]

Anyone supporting child murder should just be shunned

Libtards are dangerously stupid.

Shunning isn't good enough.

They need to be ridiculed in public.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

And more than likely, since we are very purple state, it will end up being some black lesbian Muslim woman, who calls a conservative male hetero Christian something hateful, and she'll be sentenced to some serious time. . .

At that point, the left will realize, they have taken things too far. . . .

I doubt it. They'll dive deeper into the depraved abyss.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Only an idiot thinks only leftwing is authoritarian. Both wings are authoritarian, thus is the nature of the wings of both sides.

What are the differences/compare/contrast of the two parties ie authoritarianism?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What are the differences/compare/contrast of the two parties ie authoritarianism?

The only difference is what they want to control.

 

[MisterBeale]

See, they won't let that happen to them though. Most likely it will just get ignored or get turned around somehow. But if you honestly think they play by their own rules then you're crazier than a shithouse rat.

Most likely scenario is they throw big giant rants and keep harping on about the people complaining that are on their side to drown out the people complaining that aren't on their side. All the attention will go the people complaining about their enemies.

Well, the biggest problem I see, would be in finding a police jurisdiction, willing to enforce it upon a leftist who violated this law.

More than likely, it won't be the State Police.

It will be in a small conservative county, from a local sheriff receiving a complaint from some normal person, who is threatened by some mentally unstable transperson. But yeah, I could really see this happening.


Hypothetically, this could happen in the thumb, or in the U.P. Or from some deputy that is notified, and has an interest in equal justice. I remember, for a while, Kid Rock was a deputy, till that Sheriff was caught out in that corruption scandal.

Kid Rock's a Cop. Who Knew? Hint: Not the Citizens of Oakley

Michigan hamlet with a reserve police officer-to-citizen ratio of more than 1-to-3 is reluctantly giving up names under FOIA requests.

patch.com

Ex-Oakley police chief who had big reserve police force including Kid Rock gets prison time

Robert J. Reznick sold guns, ammo, and related merchandise to his reserve officers and didn't report his profits to the IRS because he "didn't want to leave a paper trail," he said.

www.mlive.com

But yeah, I could see it happening. Folks have this belief, that Michigan, has always been blue, or lefty, it is not. It is a VERY purple state. There is a lot of very conservative folks in this state.


This fight might occur between some locality, and the State DoJ? I am not a lawyer, so I have no idea where it would go from there.

 

[MisterBeale]

This might actually come into play on this. . .

US Supreme Court sides with man who sent female musician barrage of unwanted messages​

US Supreme Court backs man who sent female musician flood of unwanted messages

The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday threw out the stalking conviction of a Colorado man who sent a barrage of unwanted messages to a female musician in a case involving constitutional free speech protections, ruling that prosecutors had not shown he understood the "threatening nature" of his words.

www.reuters.com

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/22-138_43j7.pdf

 

[martybegan]

The only difference is what they want to control.

It's more where they want the control to originate from, and how detailed.

Progressives want the laws as far away from the people as possible.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It's more where they want the control to originate from, and how detailed.

Progressives want the laws as far away from the people as possible.

And the folks that pretend to be conservatives are doing the same.

More and more red state governors are taking power away from the cities and counties and consolidating it at the state level.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

This might actually come into play on this. . .

US Supreme Court sides with man who sent female musician barrage of unwanted messages​

US Supreme Court backs man who sent female musician flood of unwanted messages

The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday threw out the stalking conviction of a Colorado man who sent a barrage of unwanted messages to a female musician in a case involving constitutional free speech protections, ruling that prosecutors had not shown he understood the "threatening nature" of his words.

www.reuters.com

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/22-138_43j7.pdf

I am torn on this one. I guess it is best to err on the side of freedom but damn if this did not just open the door for stalkers to rejoice.

 

[martybegan]

And the folks that pretend to be conservatives are doing the same.

More and more red state governors are taking power away from the cities and counties and consolidating it at the state level.

Mostly those cities are trying to remove RKBA from citizens of the States, contrary to the federal 2nd amendment and the home rule provisions of the States in question.

Sorry, but preventing some city government from infringing on the rights of gun owners in said cities doesn't strike me as somehow ruining freedom.

You are a citizen of your State, not your county, or your town, or your city.

 

[martybegan]

I am torn on this one. I guess it is best to err on the side of freedom but damn if this did not just open the door for stalkers to rejoice.

Or the States can fix their laws to be more explicit.

Unlike Michigan and the law the OP talked about.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Mostly those cities are trying to remove RKBA from citizens of the States, contrary to the federal 2nd amendment and the home rule provisions of the States in question.

Sorry, but preventing some city government from infringing on the rights of gun owners in said cities doesn't strike me as somehow ruining freedom.

You are a citizen of your State, not your county, or your town, or your city.

And then you prove me correct!

Thanks

Oh and none of the examples I have seen have anything do with 2nd Amendment.

How about a state telling a city government it cant mandate water breaks for people who work outside in the heat?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

You're referencing a general change poll, and those usually skew status quo. Asking the specific restrictions people would accept gives a far different answer.

And your evidence is?

 

[Zincwarrior]

The right includes a sizable number of federalists, which are the opposite of authoritarian.

Counterbalanced by the taliban like ChristoMAGAs.

 

[gipper]

Well, in spite of what the lockdown queen Witchmer did during Covid, she won an easy reelection, and Michigan voters gave both houses of the legislature to Democrats.

Idiots.

Please read post #9 in this thread. The D Party in Michigan rigged the last gubernatorial election. Surprisingly or not surprisingly, it is seldom discussed even by independent media.

 

[MinTrut]

this will wind up in court, hopefully being overturned.

Nothing to overturn.

To the non-hysterical mind, it appears entirely consistent with existing law.

On to the next outrage!!!

 

[MinTrut]

You can laugh all you like, but an actual liberal is the opposite of an authoritarian.

Liberals IRL are as bad as, or worse than, conservatives when it comes to totalitarian/authoritarian behavior. Both are dangerous/deluded conservative dupes.

 

[MinTrut]

Good reason for you people to get over your abortion obsession, huh..

#1 reason the Republicans will never regain national power.

They love freedom so much they want to deny people free speech and power over their own bodies.

They're almost as bad as the Democrats.

 

[MinTrut]

So people should just abandon their principles?

Keep your principles to yourselves.

Abortions are like guns:

If you don't want one, don't get one.

But leave other people, and their choices, alone.

Republicans = Dangerous totalitarians

(Democrats too of course.)