Michelle Obama's story was compelling

[jreeves]

I was impressed by her speech and found she is a great public speaker. The interaction at the end with Obama on the screen was a good touch. I think she did great.

I seem to think it was just a tad phony and rehearsed....

 

[Denny Crane]

It's good to see prejudice and racisim is alive and well in the U.S.

 

[jreeves]

It's good to see prejudice and racisim is alive and well in the U.S.

Ok please explain to me, how me saying it seemed a tad phony and rehearsed, turns into me being a racist?

 

[Denny Crane]

Ok please explain to me, how me saying it seemed a tad phony and rehearsed, turns into me being a racist?

I didn't quote you so I wasn't talking to you in particular. Without looking at your post I don't even know what you said actually.

 

[DiveCon]

Ok please explain to me, how me saying it seemed a tad phony and rehearsed, turns into me being a racist?

if you dont support the Obama's you are a racist, havent you figured that out yet?

 

[DiveCon]

It's good to see prejudice and racisim is alive and well in the U.S.

please point out where you see racism in this thread

 

[jreeves]

if you dont support the Obama's you are a racist, havent you figured that out yet?

What Denny doesn't realize by calling someone a racist for my making a personal opinion about the genuineness of a skit, is in fact racism on his part.

 

[Article 15]

please point out where you see racism in this thread

I'm not sure if this is racist per se but it's definitely over-the-top ...

She went on and on about how the world should be. A Communist one, for sure. She is a Marxist Black Liberation Movement adherent and she is clearly very angry. She wants to turn our country into a paradise for Obama's terrorist allies. She hates America, which she calls "this country," instead of "my country." Unbelievable.

 

[Chris]

How Cindy McCain was outed for drug addiction

When an attempt to get tough with a whistleblower backfired in 1994, the McCain spin machine went into overdrive, and the candidate's wife confessed to problems the media was already poised to reveal.

By Amy Silverman

Oct. 18, 1999 | PHOENIX -- GOP presidential candidate John McCain's wife Cindy took to the airwaves last week, recounting for Jane Pauley (on "Dateline") and Diane Sawyer (on "Good Morning America") the tale of her onetime addiction to Percocet and Vicodin, and the fact that she stole the drugs from her own nonprofit medical relief organization.

It was a brave and obviously painful thing to do.

It was also vintage McCain media manipulation.

I had d�j� vu watching Cindy McCain on television, perky in a purple suit with tinted pearls to match. It was so reminiscent of the summer day in 1994 when suddenly, years after she'd claimed to have kicked her habit, McCain decided to come clean to the world about her addiction to prescription painkillers.

I believe she wore red that day. She granted semi-exclusive interviews to one TV station and three daily newspaper reporters in Arizona, tearfully recalling her addiction, which came about after painful back and knee problems and was exacerbated by the stress of the Keating Five banking scandal that had ensnared her husband. To make matters worse, McCain admitted, she had stolen the drugs from the American Voluntary Medical Team, her own charity, and had been investigated by the Drug Enforcement Administration.

The local press cooed over her hard-luck story. One of the four journalists spoon-fed the story -- Doug McEachern, then a reporter for Tribune Newspapers, now a columnist with the Arizona Republic (and, it must be added, normally much more acerbic) -- wrote this rather typical lead:

"She was blonde and beautiful. A rich man's daughter who became a politically powerful man's wife. She had it all, including an insidious addiction to drugs that sapped the beauty from her life like a spider on a butterfly."

What McEachern and the others didn't know was that, far from being a simple, honest admission designed to clear her conscience and help other addicts, Cindy McCain's storytelling had been orchestrated by Jay Smith, then John McCain's Washington campaign media advisor. And it was intended to divert attention from a different story, a story that was getting quite messy.

I know, because I had been working on that story for months at Phoenix New Times. I had finally tracked down the public records that confirmed Cindy McCain's addiction and much more, and the McCains knew I was about to get them. Cindy's tale was released on the day the records were made public.

But the story I was pursuing was not so much about Cindy McCain's unfortunate addiction. It was much more about her efforts to keep that story from coming to light, and the possible manipulation of the criminal justice system by her husband and his cohorts. The irony is that Cindy's secret would have stayed secret if John McCain's heavy-hitting lawyer, John Dowd (of D.C.'s Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld; his most recent claim to fame was serving as co-counsel for fellow partner Vernon Jordan during impeachment) hadn't heavy-handedly pulled out all the stops to protect the McCain family.

Dowd tried to get back at the man on Cindy McCain's staff, Tom Gosinski, who had blown the whistle on her drug pilfering to the DEA. But in the course of trying to get local law enforcement officials to investigate Gosinski -- Dowd and the McCains considered him an extortionist; others might call him a whistleblower -- Dowd set in motion a process that would eventually bring the whole sordid story to light. When that maneuver backfired, the McCain media machine went into overdrive to spin the story.

It's a story of unintended consequences. It's also a story of power politics and media manipulation that's very un-McCain-like -- if you believe his national media hagiography.

But both of Cindy McCain's staged, teary drug-addiction confessions have been vintage John McCain. His MO is this: Get the story out -- even if it's a negative story. Get it out first, with the spin you want, with the details you want and without the details you don't want.

McCain did it with the Keating Five, and with the story of the failure of his first marriage (Cindy is his second wife). So what you recall after the humble, honest interview, is not that McCain did favors for savings and loan failure Charlie Keating, or that he cheated on his wife, but instead what an upfront, righteous guy he is.

Candor is the McCain trademark, but what the journalists who slobber over the senator fail to realize is that the candor is premeditated and polished. John McCain shoots from the hip -- but only after carefully rehearsing the battle plan, to be sure he won't get shot himself.

This is the story of a time that strategy backfired, and yet the McCain machine still managed to contain the damage.

Salon News | How Cindy McCain was outed for drug addiction

 

[Denny Crane]

please point out where you see racism in this thread

If I have to point it out it would be pointless. Carry on.

 

[DiveCon]

I'm not sure if this is racist per se but it's definitely over-the-top ...

i have a feeling that one is a poser

YMMV

 

[DiveCon]

If I have to point it out it would be pointless. Carry on.

in other words, you cant


thanks

 

[Tristan]

Text of Michelle Obama's speech at the convention
Text of Michelle Obama's speech at the convention - Yahoo! News


I was working through the speech but, it can be found at the link above for anyone else who did not see it.

Pretty standard political pap for those who have seen this show before. Nothing controversial or even very meaningful for that matter. I heard she delivered it well and give it all the weight and thought the speech of a potential POTUS's spouse deserves. It's a "pass" on the pass/fail system.

meh

 

[Article 15]

i have a feeling that one is a poser

YMMV

kinda like Muffy?

 

[jreeves]

How Cindy McCain was outed for drug addiction

When an attempt to get tough with a whistleblower backfired in 1994, the McCain spin machine went into overdrive, and the candidate's wife confessed to problems the media was already poised to reveal.

By Amy Silverman

Oct. 18, 1999 | PHOENIX -- GOP presidential candidate John McCain's wife Cindy took to the airwaves last week, recounting for Jane Pauley (on "Dateline") and Diane Sawyer (on "Good Morning America") the tale of her onetime addiction to Percocet and Vicodin, and the fact that she stole the drugs from her own nonprofit medical relief organization.

It was a brave and obviously painful thing to do.

It was also vintage McCain media manipulation.

I had d�j� vu watching Cindy McCain on television, perky in a purple suit with tinted pearls to match. It was so reminiscent of the summer day in 1994 when suddenly, years after she'd claimed to have kicked her habit, McCain decided to come clean to the world about her addiction to prescription painkillers.

I believe she wore red that day. She granted semi-exclusive interviews to one TV station and three daily newspaper reporters in Arizona, tearfully recalling her addiction, which came about after painful back and knee problems and was exacerbated by the stress of the Keating Five banking scandal that had ensnared her husband. To make matters worse, McCain admitted, she had stolen the drugs from the American Voluntary Medical Team, her own charity, and had been investigated by the Drug Enforcement Administration.

The local press cooed over her hard-luck story. One of the four journalists spoon-fed the story -- Doug McEachern, then a reporter for Tribune Newspapers, now a columnist with the Arizona Republic (and, it must be added, normally much more acerbic) -- wrote this rather typical lead:

"She was blonde and beautiful. A rich man's daughter who became a politically powerful man's wife. She had it all, including an insidious addiction to drugs that sapped the beauty from her life like a spider on a butterfly."

What McEachern and the others didn't know was that, far from being a simple, honest admission designed to clear her conscience and help other addicts, Cindy McCain's storytelling had been orchestrated by Jay Smith, then John McCain's Washington campaign media advisor. And it was intended to divert attention from a different story, a story that was getting quite messy.

I know, because I had been working on that story for months at Phoenix New Times. I had finally tracked down the public records that confirmed Cindy McCain's addiction and much more, and the McCains knew I was about to get them. Cindy's tale was released on the day the records were made public.

But the story I was pursuing was not so much about Cindy McCain's unfortunate addiction. It was much more about her efforts to keep that story from coming to light, and the possible manipulation of the criminal justice system by her husband and his cohorts. The irony is that Cindy's secret would have stayed secret if John McCain's heavy-hitting lawyer, John Dowd (of D.C.'s Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld; his most recent claim to fame was serving as co-counsel for fellow partner Vernon Jordan during impeachment) hadn't heavy-handedly pulled out all the stops to protect the McCain family.

Dowd tried to get back at the man on Cindy McCain's staff, Tom Gosinski, who had blown the whistle on her drug pilfering to the DEA. But in the course of trying to get local law enforcement officials to investigate Gosinski -- Dowd and the McCains considered him an extortionist; others might call him a whistleblower -- Dowd set in motion a process that would eventually bring the whole sordid story to light. When that maneuver backfired, the McCain media machine went into overdrive to spin the story.

It's a story of unintended consequences. It's also a story of power politics and media manipulation that's very un-McCain-like -- if you believe his national media hagiography.

But both of Cindy McCain's staged, teary drug-addiction confessions have been vintage John McCain. His MO is this: Get the story out -- even if it's a negative story. Get it out first, with the spin you want, with the details you want and without the details you don't want.

McCain did it with the Keating Five, and with the story of the failure of his first marriage (Cindy is his second wife). So what you recall after the humble, honest interview, is not that McCain did favors for savings and loan failure Charlie Keating, or that he cheated on his wife, but instead what an upfront, righteous guy he is.

Candor is the McCain trademark, but what the journalists who slobber over the senator fail to realize is that the candor is premeditated and polished. John McCain shoots from the hip -- but only after carefully rehearsing the battle plan, to be sure he won't get shot himself.

This is the story of a time that strategy backfired, and yet the McCain machine still managed to contain the damage.

Salon News | How Cindy McCain was outed for drug addiction

Kirk, Cindy Mccain has done more for humanitarian causes in her sleep than Michelle has ever thought of doing.

 

[Chris]

Married to the Mob
Ever since the 2000 election, when Vietnam combat veteran John McCain burst onto the scene in the Republican Presidential primaries as a ‘moderate alternative’ to George W. Bush, it seems that he has led a charmed political life. George Bush is known to detest McCain personally, but he has needed him. Liberals held their fire because every now and then McCain throws them a bone (in fact John Kerry wasted valuable time and effort trying to convince McCain, who was the chair of the Bush campaign in Arizona, to defect and run on a ticket with him; what it also meant was that when John Kerry picked John Edwards for the ticket, everyone knew he was a second choice.) Independents ooze over the conservative McCain (and conservative he is, just look at his voting record,) as if they think he is one of them. Even Bush backers, like Pat Robertson (who thoroughly trashed McCain in South Carolina) have warmed up to him.

And one of McCain’s biggest assets, according to most of these people is that he eschews negative campaigning.

There is a good reason for that though. It’s a tale that involves organized crime, corruption and murder. Let’s say that John McCain never runs a negative ad against his opponents because he doesn’t want them to dig too hard.

It’s because McCain is where he is because of his marriage to his second wife, Cindy. No, Cindy Hensley McCain is not where the story begins. She was a young 25 when McCain married her (he was 43). According to the Arizona Republic on June 5, 1999, McCain joked that his marriage was based on a ’tissue of lies.’ Both he and she had lied to each other, she claiming to be older than she was and he claiming to be younger. Yeah, I know– what a good foundation for a marriage to start off on. To their credit the McCains however have stayed together. Or maybe there are other reasons…

One wonders what Cindy told McCain about her father. When did McCain learn how his father-in-law Jim Hensley made his fortune? Sooner or later he had to be dealt in on the ‘family jewels.’ After all, they helped finance a run for Congress and not long after that for the Senate.

Jim Hensley and his brother Eugene went to work after World War II for Kemper Marley, a wealthy wholesale liquor distributor. Marley, in fact, had once been a bookie, getting his start working for the Transamerica Wire Service, a betting service established by mafiosi Gus Greenbaum (who was murdered with his wife when their throats were slashed in bed in 1958). Until 1947, liquor was rationed by the government. Apparently Marley did quite well in spite of the restrictions, and in 1948 the reason why became clear. Eugene and Jim Hensley were convicted of falsifying records on behalf of Marley’s distributorship, United Liquor (along with fifty other Marley employees) to conceal the illegal distribution of hundreds of cases of liquor. Jim Hensley got a six month suspended sentence.

In 1953, Jim Hensley, then the General Manager for United Liquor, was once more charged for doing the same thing again. Marley paid for top notch legal representation though (future Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist.) Hensley still went to prison, but took the fall when the rest of the company was cleared. According to an article in American Mafia.com, Marley rewarded Hensley for his loyalty to the organization:

When Hensley strolled out of the joint, Marley bought his silence with a lucrative Phoenix-based Budweiser beer distributorship.

That distributorship and the rest of Marley’s empire did very well over the decades for both Hensley and Marley, making both men multi-millionaires.

In fact, Marley was interested in more than just liquor. In 1976, then Gov. Raul Castro, a Democrat, appointed Marley, then a billionaire and the state’s richest man, to the state racing commission.

And that’s when one of those pesky investigative reporters got in the way. The reporter’s name was Don Bolles and he worked for the Arizona Republic. Bolles discovered a land fraud ring and other crimes that appeared to lead to Sen. Barry Goldwater and other movers and shakers in Arizona. And he discovered that Kemper Marley, newly appointed to the State Board Racing Commission, had connections to the Mafia. In fact, Marley was a close associate of Peter Licavoli, the mob boss for Arizona. Marley had also served as Chairman of the Board for Valley National Bank, which helped bankroll Bugsy Siegel’s construction of the Flamingo in Las Vegas. Digging into Marley’s past also uncovered his earlier work for Gus Greenbaum. The revelations forced Marley to resign from the commission.

And Kemper Marley and his associates in the Mafia weren’t people whose business you interfered with lightly.


On June 2, 1976, Bolles climbed into his car and was blown apart by a bomb under the driver’s seat. Pieces of his body were strewn around the parking lot. Bolles amazingly survived for eleven days and said to investgators on the scene, “They finally got me. The Mafia. Emprise. Find John (Harvey) Adamson.”

Adamson was later convicted of the murder. But who hired him? That trail was never really followed up on, according to members of the Arizona Project, a group of reporters who began looking into mob ties after the murder.

McCain: Married To The Mob? Suzie-Q

 

[DiveCon]

kinda like Muffy?

to the 10th power



btw, what do you think of ol kirk here?

 

[Chris]

to the 10th power



btw, what do you think of ol kirk here?

Just posting the facts...

Tough to handle, eh?

 

[BestPerspective]

She went on and on about how the world should be. A Communist one, for sure. She is a Marxist Black Liberation Movement adherent and she is clearly very angry. She wants to turn our country into a paradise for Obama's terrorist allies. She hates America, which she calls "this country," instead of "my country." Unbelievable.

What were you watching?

Ok, Fear Mongering- Smears? ( thats great)

Serously, how did you come to this conclusion of yours? How did you get to this fear mongering point of view of yours, that you just described in this fear-ful" way? Your descreption of Mrs Obama's speech tonight is just plain laughable. The speech was the farthest from what you have described, MR. "Bush Lover".

About the speech:

It was a inspiring speech- It was affectionate speech- It was compassionate speech- It was insightful speech- It was Intelligent speech- It was gracious speech- It was a posed speech. It was a wonderful speech.

In her gratitude, and with the humbleness that shown tonight, she came across as a very patrotic american who love her country deeply. It was a extraordinary speech. It was articulate.

 

[DiveCon]

Just posting the facts...

Tough to handle, eh?

actually, i find your postings very amusing
the lack of actual facts is astounding
you sure seem to pick and chose your "facts" from very unreliable sources