Michael Moore at it Again- ....Review of American Sniper-Snipers are Cowards

[Geaux4it]

This guy just has to have armed security. Moore is good for the business

-Geaux
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Filmmaker Michael Moore, an expert courter of controversy, has been pilloried over the past few days by some on the right, including the likes of Sarah Palin and Kid Rock, for incendiary words he tweeted about the “American Sniper” film.

This is what started it all.

"My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren't heroes. And invaders r worse"

Newt Gingrich went so far as to suggest Moore should spend some time with ISIS and Boko Haram.


After catching flak for his contentious remarks, Moore took to Facebook on Sunday to hit back at those accusing him of hating the troops. Damage control, it wasn’t.

“Well, who would know better about hating our troops than those who supported sending them into a senseless war Iraq in the first place? And, for 4,482 of them, a senseless, unnecessary and regrettable death,” he wrote.

Michael Moore MMFlint Twitter

 

[Delta4Embassy]

The military has never been totally comfortable with snipers either. Was a great doc on the history on American snipers on one of the obscure history-science sorta channels detailing how they were used in WWI, but after the war the whole 'snipers are bushwackers and cowards' thing prevented a formal training school being set up to train more. Then came WWII and once again they needed snipers. And again, after the war, no formal acknowledgement how useful they are and no school, all the way up to Vietnam. Think it goes to the same ridiculous thought proceses expressed by old-school Navy officers following the invention of the atomic bomb (which at the time threatened to put most of them out of work - you don't need naval fleet tactics if 1 bomb takes care of the problem for you.) Same thing likely going on with snipers then and in some circles today. In the War of Independence, British Army soldiers stood in rigid lines firing en masse'. American soldiers tries that too then took to running around. And riflemen in trees became a thing then as well.

Haven't seen the movie, not my thing, but expect I'll give it a look when it's on premium channels.

As to Moore's remarks - all wars are senseless. Think about how many died within seconds of landing on the beaches of Normandy. Then think how once a piece of paper had been signed saying the war is now over, Germany and the US became such great friends.

Fuck war and fighting them. Let the politicians who start them fight them they're so keen on it.

 

[JoeB131]

As I said in another thread, this film is a great example of whitewashing. Take out Kyle's racism, his lying, and his sociopathic tendencies and you have the feel-good film of the Winter, if you don't think about it too much.

You know, like how Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, really.

 

[Stephanie]

The coward is a person who sits on their fat ass criticizing everyone else. Go away Moore no body cares about your stupid thoughts

 

[JoeB131]

The coward is a person who sits on their fat ass criticizing everyone else. Go away Moore no body cares about your stupid thoughts

Oh, Staph, are you really trying to pretend that Moore wasn't right all along, that Iraq was a terrible idea?

 

[AmericanFirst]

As I said in another thread, this film is a great example of whitewashing. Take out Kyle's racism, his lying, and his sociopathic tendencies and you have the feel-good film of the Winter, if you don't think about it too much.

You know, like how Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, really.

What do you have when you take out obutthurts lying? President McCain.

 

[AmericanFirst]

The coward is a person who sits on their fat ass criticizing everyone else. Go away Moore no body cares about your stupid thoughts

Oh, Staph, are you really trying to pretend that Moore wasn't right all along, that Iraq was a terrible idea?

No, she is saying Moore is a fat libtarded liar

 

[JoeB131]

As I said in another thread, this film is a great example of whitewashing. Take out Kyle's racism, his lying, and his sociopathic tendencies and you have the feel-good film of the Winter, if you don't think about it too much.

You know, like how Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, really.

What do you have when you take out obutthurts lying? President McCain.

But. But. BUt... Obama.

Yes, McCain lost because Obama Lied.

Not because Bush crashed the economy, Sarah Palin was retarded and McCain looked like a confused old man who couldn't multi-task.

 

[JoeB131]

The coward is a person who sits on their fat ass criticizing everyone else. Go away Moore no body cares about your stupid thoughts

Oh, Staph, are you really trying to pretend that Moore wasn't right all along, that Iraq was a terrible idea?

No, she is saying Moore is a fat libtarded liar

What did he lie about specifically?

Frankly, if the filmed the book Kyle wrote, instead of taking liberties with it, I think it would be more like a horror movie.

 

[Stephanie]

The coward is a person who sits on their fat ass criticizing everyone else. Go away Moore no body cares about your stupid thoughts

Oh, Staph, are you really trying to pretend that Moore wasn't right all along, that Iraq was a terrible idea?

No, she is saying Moore is a fat libtarded liar

It's too early to play their stupid games. they get old and zzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Iceweasel]

Michael Moore is long overdue for a major heart attack. It can't come soon enough.

 

[Geaux4it]

Michael Moore is long overdue for a major heart attack. It can't come soon enough.

Indeed- Look as if he doesn't pay to much attention to Moochelles healthy food talk

-Geaux

 

[AmericanFirst]

The coward is a person who sits on their fat ass criticizing everyone else. Go away Moore no body cares about your stupid thoughts

Oh, Staph, are you really trying to pretend that Moore wasn't right all along, that Iraq was a terrible idea?

No, she is saying Moore is a fat libtarded liar

What did he lie about specifically?

Frankly, if the filmed the book Kyle wrote, instead of taking liberties with it, I think it would be more like a horror movie.

He is a libtard, it is natural for those idiots to lie.

 

[AmericanFirst]

As I said in another thread, this film is a great example of whitewashing. Take out Kyle's racism, his lying, and his sociopathic tendencies and you have the feel-good film of the Winter, if you don't think about it too much.

You know, like how Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, really.

What do you have when you take out obutthurts lying? President McCain.

But. But. BUt... Obama.

Yes, McCain lost because Obama Lied.

Not because Bush crashed the economy, Sarah Palin was retarded and McCain looked like a confused old man who couldn't multi-task.

Obutthurt has done more to hurt the economy. Bush didn't spend as much as Obutthurt even with two wars. Idiot.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Let's see, Moore has had how many movies that have made $200 million in two weeks ?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Let's see, Moore has had how many movies that have made $200 million in two weeks ?

That's right. And the more controversy he generates the more interest in his products and the more money he makes to pay for his pizza, Big Mac and ice cream habits.

 

[Dana7360]

This guy just has to have armed security. Moore is good for the business

-Geaux
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Filmmaker Michael Moore, an expert courter of controversy, has been pilloried over the past few days by some on the right, including the likes of Sarah Palin and Kid Rock, for incendiary words he tweeted about the “American Sniper” film.

This is what started it all.

"My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren't heroes. And invaders r worse"

Newt Gingrich went so far as to suggest Moore should spend some time with ISIS and Boko Haram.


After catching flak for his contentious remarks, Moore took to Facebook on Sunday to hit back at those accusing him of hating the troops. Damage control, it wasn’t.

“Well, who would know better about hating our troops than those who supported sending them into a senseless war Iraq in the first place? And, for 4,482 of them, a senseless, unnecessary and regrettable death,” he wrote.

Michael Moore MMFlint Twitter

And now, here's the truth.

The full text of what Michael Moore wrote on his facebook page.

"My 12 Years of Support for the Troops " Before I post my more general thoughts later today or tomorrow about the ruckus of the past week regarding the response to my heartfelt comment on twitter about my uncle who was killed in World War II by a sniper - and how I was taught to despise snipers of any stripe - I would like to address this one insane mantra that the right-wing has twisted my tweet into: "Michael Moore hates the troops." Well, who would know better about hating our troops than those who supported sending them into a senseless war Iraq in the first place? And, for 4,482 of them, a senseless, unnecessary and regrettable death. If you supported that invasion, if you voted for George W. Bush and the Republicans and Democrats who backed this war, then you are the ones who have some 'splainin' to do. Not me. You. Because only "haters" of our brave young men and women would recklessly send them into harm's way for something that had absolutely nothing to do with defending the United States of America. Nothing. Nothing to do with 9/11. Nothing. In fact, WE, the USA, were the ones who provided Saddam with his weapons in the 1980s that he used against the Kurds. We wanted him to use them against the Iranians, but you hand a crazy guy crazy weapons, something crazy is probably going to happen. Ask Osama bin Laden about that -- what he did with the crazy training, crazy money and crazy weapons that WE gave him. Oh wait. You can't ask him. Because the new president took him out. No 150,000 troop invasion necessary. Just 12 or so Navy SEALS and two and a half choppers. Here's the truth they can't or won't report: I'M the one who has supported these troops - much more than the bloviators on Fox News. To prove it (and I know this is going to crush some of you out there), here's just a partial list of all the things I do and have done for those men and women who serve -- and I guarantee you, you've never heard any of this reported about what the real me does because, frankly, it messes up their little story of the fictional "Michael Moore" they've created for your hate and enjoyment (please feel free to cut, paste and send this to your conservative brother-in-law): ** I have an aggressive affirmative action policy specifically to hire Iraq and Afghanistan veterans at my film production company, my movie theaters in Michigan and my film festival. I have asked other businesses in my town (and nationwide) to join with me on this. Michael Moore Asks Businesses to Hire a Vet News The Ticker . A vet was an editor on my films "Fahrenheit 9/11" and "Sicko" and a vet (who served in both Iraq AND Afghanistan) is the projectionist at my flagship theater in Michigan (to name a few).

** I also ask people to post a sign I designed and have made available: "I Shop Where Vets Work". Here's my policy and the poster: Veterans 8211 Downtown in Traverse City Michigan (Can someone at Fox News send me your posted affirmative action program to hire Iraq and Afghanistan vets?)

** Since I opened my movie theaters in northern Michigan, this has been my admission policy: "Admission to all movies at my theaters is FREE, 365 days of the year, for ALL active duty military and their families."

** I allow local veterans support groups to use my theater to meet for PTSD issues, I host quarterly PTSD summits, and I've hosted a conference to start a jobs movement for vets in our town.

** I have raised tens of thousands of dollars through my website for groups that help veterans and wounded warriors: Fahrenheit 9 11 I ve Seen the Movie How do I Help the Soldiers

** In the early years of the war I made all my books and DVDs available free of charge to all service members through BooksForSoldiers.com

** I produced and hosted a benefit for military families at the House of Blues that received national attention to their plight (raw clips here from the AP:


** I will NOT do business with vendors who don't have a policy to hire vets.

** I gave voice to the troops who weren't being heard by publishing a book of their letters from the front lines in "Will They Every Trust Us Again?" (NY Times bestseller for 4 weeks)

** I regularly post blogs from troops IVAW featured on Michael Moore Iraq Veterans Against the War and I show and support many movies about what they've gone through in the past 12 years at my theaters.

** I took vets, soldiers and their families on a 60-city tour of the country so their concerns could be heard:
Military Families Join Michael Moore s Slacker Uprising Tour - YouTube
** I helped Iraq Vets against the War with "Operation Recovery" Operation Recovery Iraq Veterans Against the War and How Bout Dinner Just You and Me Michael Moore

** My movie, "Fahrenheit 9/11" - #1 selling/#1 rental on all military base PXs

** My books were the #1 requested books by troops from the nonprofit BooksForSoldiers.com

** I sit on the Advisory Board of the Pvt. Bradley (Chelsea) Manning Support Network

** From the Dept. of Irony: I only hire Navy SEALS and ex-special forces for when I need security - such as this week, when so-called supporters of those SEALs want me harmed.

** When my father passed away this year, in lieu of flowers I asked that donations by made in my dad's name to the veterans group, Veterans for Peace. Enough money was raised so that the Vietnam Vets chapter could build a home in Vietnam for a family still suffering from the effects of Agent Orange. It's being dedicated in my dad's name.

** I am currently showing "American Sniper" at my theater that I helped restore and that I program and help run in Manistee, MI. Not because I like it, but because, unlike the other side, I'm not a censor. I trust smart people and people of good heart will know what to do. You can't have a conversation about what Clint Eastwood is up to if you haven't seen what it is he's up to. And regardless where u are on the political spectrum, you'll see that every character in Clint's film comes out dead or permanently damaged. This ain't no John Wayne rah-rah pablum. Eastwood made maybe the greatest western ever - "Unforgiven" - but now it's sad seeing him talking to an empty chair on a stage or making an Iraq movie that Rolling Stone this week called, "too dumb to bother criticizing." In the end, the thing I'm most proud of for what I've done for the troops was sticking my neck out 12 years ago to become a leading opponent to Bush and the war. I tried to save more lives than a sniper ever could hope to -- by preventing us from going to war in the first place. Well, I failed at that. But I've done everything else humanly possible to try and make it up to those troops when they return home -- that is, the ones lucky enough to return home.

So, Fox News and the other lazy media -- quit making shit up about me! You look ridiculous. If you want to have a debate with me about the ISSUES and the POLICIES, then let's have it. If you want to debate a movie that's trying to rewrite history, then let's have that. But when you hide behind falsehoods and then use them to try and manipulate the public, then all you are is afraid. Afraid of me, an unarmed American, and the truth I bring along as my sidekick. Only cowards have to lie. Be brave. Report the truth. It will feel good.

 

[Rozman]

Barack Obama visit US wants only its snipers on building rooftops India says 8216 no 8217 The Indian Express

So I guess Moore has a problem with protecting his President....

If snipers are such scumbags how does the Left reconcile this...

 

[hipeter924]

Barack Obama visit US wants only its snipers on building rooftops India says 8216 no 8217 The Indian Express

So I guess Moore has a problem with protecting his President....

If snipers are such scumbags how does the Left reconcile this...

Another movie?

 

[HenryBHough]

Moore figured out that his twitter account was slowing because most people believed he had died. He had to do something to suggest otherwise.