Mexican Swine Flu Could Be The Expected 9/11-like “Event”

[eots]

Im still surprised you have internet in your bomb shelter. I would think a paranoid delusional like yourself would be worried about being spied on by the government. Oh wait, i forgot the tin foil on your head protects you against this.

thats all just your insane programed ramblings I speak of real issue based on logic and reason

from the same guys that want to sell you vacines..sure you can trust them...no conspiracy here..because in goatboy world conspiracys dont exsist...you fucking idiot

Well, untill you guys are actually right about one of your conspiracies, they DONT exist. You guys are NEVER right about these things, EVER. By this time next year, you will have forgotten about the swine flu conspiracy and you wont be held accountable for your claim. Surely, out of ALL the fucking conspiracies you guys come up with, you should have been able to prove at least one of them by now, but that isnt the case.

You are insane, and you wouldnt know logic and reason if it hit you in your tin foil wrapped head.

you make this empty vague statement without one specific about all these conspiracy's and you guys and how they are never proven even tho i have given several examples of exposed conspiracy's and lets face the facts your idea of proof is something is broadcast on CNN and FOX...until that moment in your mid it just does not exsist,,,that is insane

 

[eots]

Well, untill you guys are actually right about one of your conspiracies, they DONT exist. You guys are NEVER right about these things, EVER. By this time next year, you will have forgotten about the swine flu conspiracy and you wont be held accountable for your claim. Surely, out of ALL the fucking conspiracies you guys come up with, you should have been able to prove at least one of them by now, but that isnt the case.

You are insane, and you wouldnt know logic and reason if it hit you in your tin foil wrapped head.

you make this empty vague statement without one specific about all these conspiracy's and you guys and how they are never proven even tho i have given several examples of exposed conspiracy's and lets face the facts your idea of proof is something is broadcast on CNN and FOX...until that moment in your mid it just does not exsist,,,that is insane

 

[Terral]

Hi Godboy, Xotoxi and Mad Scientist:

...and when none of this happens, which it wont, you dipshits will simply move on to your next crazy fucking conspiracy.

Too bad the plan will be foiled by a simple invention that costs less than 50 cents. http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver.dyn?6666660Zjcf6lVs6EVs666ljYc7rrrrQ-

...on second thought, the Government can't machine gun everyone, there's an ammo shortage you know . . .

Thank you very much for your magnanimous contributions to the Mexican/Swine/Avian/Human Bio-weapon Flu Strain Topic. You guys come to the USMB Conspiracy Forum every damned day to try and convince everyone that “no conspiracy exists.” Just wait until thousands and thousands of people start dying and you guys are recognized as . . .

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua05RTaDE8o"]. . . Real USMB Food-Fight Idiots . . .[/ame]

GL,

Terral

 

[Terral]

Hi Godboy:

Well, untill you guys are actually right about one of your conspiracies, they DONT exist. You guys are NEVER right about these things, EVER. By this time next year, you will have forgotten about the swine flu conspiracy and you wont be held accountable for your claim. Surely, out of ALL the fucking conspiracies you guys come up with, you should have been able to prove at least one of them by now, but that isnt the case.

You are insane, and you wouldnt know logic and reason if it hit you in your tin foil wrapped head.

You guys need to wake the hell up already!!!!

Listen To This Lady

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qJQCJp4ehc"]The YouTube Video Version[/ame]

This lady knows that a second 9/11-like Bio-weapon attack is happening right now right under your noses 'and' a rogue element working inside our Federal Government is shipping 'flu' virus around the country and 'you' are among the intended victims. Dr. Bill Deagle has been warning about this kind of things for months!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cus6UPCT_i8"]Dr. Bill Deagle on the Swine Flu Part 1[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cus6UPCT_i8&feature=related"]Dr. Bill Deagle on the Swine Flu Part 2[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft7evYNZclw"]Dr. Bill Deagle on the Swine Flu Part 3[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bg_gYNUPvw&feature=related"]Dr. Bill Deagle on the Swine Flu Part 4[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg07vDCvdjA"]Dr. Henry Niman Is The Expert[/ame]

GL,

Terral

 

[eots]

Nice...

 

[Terral]

Hi Eots:

Nice...

This 9/11-like attack on We The People and the world is FAR more serious than the "many" realize. Hopefully some of these readers will wake the hell up and begin warning others. The son of God will NOT stand in intercession for this GODLESS country any longer! The protective hand of the Lord God has been removed from the USA (since 4/20/2009 @ 3:30 PM), because utter destruction is what the 'many' deserves. You want to stand with Loyal Bushie/Obama LIARS and their Official Govt Cover Stories, 'AND' scoff and mock??!!! Alllll-righty then. All that remains is the 'perishing' . . .

Dr. Rebecca Carley predicted this kind of flu virus attack about a month ago and gave her testimony about this designer bio-weapon just yesterday:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip9O_VTIRek&feature=related"]Dr. Rebecca Carley on the Swine Flu Part 1[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXYOGuXKk6c&feature=related"]Dr. Rebecca Carley on the Swine Flu Part 2[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seUxDOiNDwg&feature=related"]Dr. Rebecca Carley on the Swine Flu Part 3[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yJE1xXzkuA&feature=related"]Dr. Rebecca Carley on the Swine Flu Part 4[/ame]

GL,

Terral

 

[LaLinda75]

Geez, are you people for real??? The swine flu is simply that - THE SWINE FLU!!! And it originated in a third world country where health rules/laws are non-existent and where medical care is obsolete for the poor. Get a clue people. As many of you have heard, Mexico is now playing the victim as per usual and saying that this flu originated in the USA. When you have something like this originate in a country who NEVER takes responsibility for their failures, it's no wonder it has turned into a pandemic! By the time THEY identified this virus, it was too late for the industralized countries to keep it in check. And how in the world can this president and his cronies say that closing the border will not do any good??? They ShOULD have closed it the minute it was known that it originated in Mexico. And to say that it is too late as the bug is already here?? Of course it is!!! They DID NOT do anything to prevent it from not entering the USA. If ONE person comes in with it, can he/she infect as many people as maybe 100, 500 who enter???? Either by plane, boat, foot??? What is wrong here? The world is feeding the masses a bunch of bull s***.

 

[Godboy]

you make this empty vague statement without one specific about all these conspiracy's and you guys and how they are never proven even tho i have given several examples of exposed conspiracy's and lets face the facts your idea of proof is something is broadcast on CNN and FOX...until that moment in your mid it just does not exsist,,,that is insane

If you can prove something, you will, if you cant, then you wont. Its a simple concept you continually fail to understand. If you actually proved it, everyone in the world would believe you and see what you are talking about, but theres just a handful of wack jobs like you who believe in this fictional garbage, and you guys believe EVERY conspiracy, and you make new ones every day. I mean shit, if you JUST believed in the 9/11 conspiracy, i might cut you a break, but you have a pattern of believing in all kinds crazy fucking stories that make no sense to sane people. You have absolutely no credibility.

When the Wright brothers wanted to prove that man could fly, they did, and now everyone believes them, because they PROVED it. You dumb fucking idiots never prove a god damn thing. Proving something doesnt mean you simply proclaim "i proved it", you actually have to do it, and when you do, everyone else will believe you.

None of your dumbass conspiracies have any truth to them, therefore you always fail to prove them. If you had truth on your side, your task of convincing people would be easy, but since you only have lie after lie, you are put into the dipshit conspiracy theorist catagory, and no one takes you seriously. Quit lying for christ sake, quit saying you proved shit you know you never proved.

 

[eots]

you make this empty vague statement without one specific about all these conspiracy's and you guys and how they are never proven even tho i have given several examples of exposed conspiracy's and lets face the facts your idea of proof is something is broadcast on CNN and FOX...until that moment in your mid it just does not exsist,,,that is insane

If you can prove something, you will, if you cant, then you wont. Its a simple concept you continually fail to understand. If you actually proved it, everyone in the world would believe you and see what you are talking about, but theres just a handful of wack jobs like you who believe in this fictional garbage, and you guys believe EVERY conspiracy, and you make new ones every day. I mean shit, if you JUST believed in the 9/11 conspiracy, i might cut you a break, but you have a pattern of believing in all kinds crazy fucking stories that make no sense to sane people. You have absolutely no credibility.

When the Wright brothers wanted to prove that man could fly, they did, and now everyone believes them, because they PROVED it. You dumb fucking idiots never prove a god damn thing. Proving something doesnt mean you simply proclaim "i proved it", you actually have to do it, and when you do, everyone else will believe you.

None of your dumbass conspiracies have any truth to them, therefore you always fail to prove them. If you had truth on your side, your task of convincing people would be easy, but since you only have lie after lie, you are put into the dipshit conspiracy theorist catagory, and no one takes you seriously. Quit lying for christ sake, quit saying you proved shit you know you never proved.

physics proves the official 911 story is untrue ...the only thing necessary to prove 911 is a false flag operation and controlled demolition is a real hearing and disclosure of all withheld evidence....something not in my power alone to create and as far as your simpled minded statement about more than one aspect to a vast conspiracy


we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.....
President John F. Kennedy
Waldorf-Astoria Hotel
New York City, April 27, 1961





[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSGwnz7XpY[/ame]

 

[Terral]

Hi Linda:

Geez, are you people for real??? The swine flu is simply that - THE SWINE FLU!!!

Linda’s evidentiary support.

Linda has three pages of evidence proving beyond all doubt that we are looking at a Swine/Avian/Human Hybrid Bio-weapon Virus Attack, but she has the nerve to come out here empty-handed to try and convince you that ‘no conspiracy exists’ (my signature below).

And it originated in a third world country where health rules/laws are non-existent and where medical care is obsolete for the poor. Get a clue people.

Linda’s evidentiary support.

No. I will not go back and resubmit all of my arguments (start here = decide for yourself!) that Ms. Linda here refuses to even address in this debate ‘and’ you Sheeple (pic) are at liberty to be lulled back to sleep by a woman without one clue, because the ‘majority’ of you will never wake-the-hell-up anyway; until it is MUCH too late . . . but everybody here has been warned repeatedly . . .

As many of you have heard, Mexico is now playing the victim as per usual and saying that this flu originated in the USA.

Linda’s evidentiary support.

The Swine/Avian/Human Hybrid Virus (Post #32) is now gestating and mutating within the Mexican and American populations where a very small percentage of people show any symptoms at all.

When you have something like this originate in a country who NEVER takes responsibility for their failures, it's no wonder it has turned into a pandemic!

This Cultured Bio-weapon Virus has yet to even get started!!! Let’s talk about taking responsibility for the coming depopulation of this world that is plainly written in stone at the Georgia Guidestones Monument:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec_b5W-xsQM&feature=related"]You Expendable Containers Are IGNORANT[/ame]

George Green (link) is allowed to continue living, because nothing that any human being can do will stop these New World Order Bad Guys ‘and’ they very well know it.

By the time THEY identified this virus, it was too late for the industralized countries to keep it in check. And how in the world can this president and his cronies say that closing the border will not do any good???

Perhaps Linda is waking up to the fact that this bio-weapon virus was released very much on purpose by the New World Order cronies about to depopulate the world to below their 500 million people threshold.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MyxByvU-jo&NR=1[/ame]

They ShOULD have closed it the minute it was known that it originated in Mexico.

No kidding. Your ‘Swine Flu’ is transmitted ‘rarely’ from pigs to people (Wiki), but NOT people to people. The borders should have closed in the moment that ‘human-to-human’ transmission became even a remote probability!!!! This means we are NOT looking at any mere Swine Flu at all, but something that this world has never seen! Again, “Swine Flu virus DO NOT normally infect humans” (CDC.gov key facts article)!!!! Then ‘human-to-human’ transmission means you are NOT looking at any Swine Flu Virus at all. This is the New World Order ‘ploy’ that gives people a false sense of security, when in reality this bio-weapon is continuing to gestate and mutate into a MONSTER right under (and inside) your very noses.

And to say that it is too late as the bug is already here?? Of course it is!!! They DID NOT do anything to prevent it from not entering the USA.

Now you are catching on! At the top of your post, this was only a Swine Flu Virus that started in some third-world country, when in reality this bio-weapon was created in a laboratory (story from OP link).

If ONE person comes in with it, can he/she infect as many people as maybe 100, 500 who enter???? Either by plane, boat, foot??? What is wrong here? The world is feeding the masses a bunch of bull s***.

Linda is feeding these readers a lot of BS too, but without any third-party evidence to support A SINGLE WORD; so perhaps I am drawing the wrong conclusions from your rant above.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZfdtp3mLcI&NR=1"]This NWO Virus Bio-Attack Is Step #4[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTuF48F-02g"]These People "Do" Have A Clue . . .[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDXS8AQQ0JQ&feature=related"]Bio-Weapons to Reduce the Global Population[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IkEBbsE_8E&feature=related"]Bird Flu Population Control H5H1 Bio-Warfare Pt. 1[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BjB0xB-ZM&feature=related"]Bird Flu Population Control H5H1 Bio-Warfare Pt. 2[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMg6WiqTclQ&feature=related"]Bird Flu Population Control H5H1 Bio-Warfare Pt. 3[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o7ZPUKZRNc&feature=related"]Bird Flu Population Control H5H1 Bio-Warfare Pt. 4[/ame]

The Model State Emergency Health Powers Act of December 21, 2001 << Read!

GL,

Terral

 

[Godboy]

physics proves the official 911 story is untrue ...

...and here you lie yet AGAIN, as usual. Physics proves it IS true, which is why all the leading physicists in the world agree with me, while they think you are a fucking idiot. You are a liar eots. All your proof is based on shameless lies. You never stop lying.

You conspiracy loons a dispicable bunch.

 

[eots]

physics proves the official 911 story is untrue ...

...and here you lie yet AGAIN, as usual. Physics proves it IS true, which is why all the leading physicists in the world agree with me, while they think you are a fucking idiot. You are a liar eots. All your proof is based on shameless lies. You never stop lying.

You conspiracy loons a dispicable bunch.

all leading physiosist in the world...agree with you.... excuse me ?...you have no idea what your talking about...you just pulled that statement out of your ass..didnt you...popular mechanics is not...all the leading physicist in the world...goofball.....so to you all these people are despicable liars ? and loons....




Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) &#8211; Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
Member: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"Scholars and professionals with various kinds of expertise---including architects, engineers, firefighters, intelligence officers, lawyers, medical professionals, military officers, philosophers, religious leaders, physical scientists, and pilots---have spoken out about radical discrepancies between the official account of the 9/11 attacks and what they, as independent researchers, have learned.

They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official &#8220;investigations&#8221; have really been cover-up operations.

Thus far, however, there has been no response from political leaders in Washington or, for that matter, in other capitals around the world. Our organization, Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth, has been formed to help bring about such a response.

We believe that the truth about 9/11 needs to be exposed now---not in 50 years as a footnote in the history books---so the policies that have been based on the Bush-Cheney administration&#8217;s interpretation of the 9/11 attacks can be changed.

We are, therefore, calling for a new, independent investigation of 9/11 that takes account of evidence that has been documented by independent researchers but thus far ignored by governments and the mainstream media."


Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It&#8217;s impossible. &#8230; There&#8217;s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. &#8230; Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don&#8217;t want us to know what happened and who&#8217;s responsible.&#8230;

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it&#8217;s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that&#8217;s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder." http://video.go




David L. Griscom, PhD &#8211; Research physicist, retired in 2001 from Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) in Washington, DC, after 33 years service. Fellow of the American Physical Society. Fulbright-García Robles Fellow at Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México in Mexico City (1997). Visiting professorships of research at the Universities of Paris and Saint-Etienne, France, and Tokyo Institute of Technology (2000 - 2003). Adjunct Professor of Materials Science and Engineering, University of Arizona (2004 - 2005). Winner of the 1993 N. F. Mott Award sponsored by the Journal of Non-Crystalline Solids, the 1995 Otto Schott Award offered by the Carl-Zeiss-Stiftung (Germany), a 1996 Outstanding Graduate School Alumnus Award at Brown University, and the 1997 Sigma Xi Pure Science Award at NRL. Principal author of 109 of his 185 published works, a body of work which is highly cited by his peers. Officially credited with largest number of papers (5) by any author on list of 100 most cited articles authored at NRL between 1973 and 1988.
Personal blog 1/5/07: "David Ray Griffin has web-published a splendid, highly footnoted account of The Destruction of the World Trade Center: Why the Official Account Cannot Be True: This scholarly work, rich in eyewitness accounts, includes 11 separate pieces of evidence that the World Trade Center towers 1, 2 [each 1300+ feet tall, 110 stories], and 7 were brought down by explosives. [Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.]

... I implore my fellow physicists and engineers who may have the time, expertise, and (ideally) supercomputer access to get to work on the physics of the World Trade Center collapses and publish their findings in refereed journals like, say, the Journal of Applied Physics.

The issue of knowing who was really behind the 9/11 attacks is of paramount importance to the future of our country, because the "official" assumption that it was the work of 19 Arab amateurs (1) does not match the available facts and (2) has led directly to the deplorable Patriot Act, the illegal Iraq war, NSA spying on ordinary Americans, repudiation of the Geneva Conventions, and the repeal of habeas corpus (a fundamental point of law that has been with us since the signing of the Magna Carta in 1215).

Surely these Orwellian consequences of public ignorance constitute more than sufficient motivation for any patriotic American physicist or engineer to join the search for 9/11 Truth!" http://impactglassman


Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice Association Statement: "Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization consisting of independent researchers and activists engaged in uncovering the true nature of the September 11, 2001 attacks."


Bio: David L Griscom PhD Physicist bio







Dwain Deets, MS Eng

Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng &#8211; Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 600 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition


Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.



Larry L. Erickson, BS Aeronautical Eng, MS Aeronautical Eng, PhD Eng Mechanics &#8211; Retired NASA Aerospace Engineer and Research Scientist. Conducted research in the fields of structural dynamics, aerodynamics, aeroelasticity and flutter. Recipient of NASA's Aerodynamics Division Researcher-of-the-Year Award. 33-year NASA career. Member, American Institute of Aeronautics & Astronautics. Instructor, Physics and Aerospace Engineering, California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo 1998 - present. Author and co-author of several scientific papers on aerodynamic analysis. Contributing author to Applied Computational Aerodynamics (1990).

Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 600 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition


Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[Godboy]

all leading phsisi 8in the agree with you excuse me ?...you have no idea what your talking about...you just pulled that ataement out of your ass..didint you...poular mechanics is not...all the leading physist in the world...goofball.....so to you all these people are dispicable liars ? and loons....

If all the worlds scientists, engineers and physicists agreed with your crazy story, then we wouldnt be having this debate, because the world would agree with you, but they dont, they agree with me. You think because you can list a few people who also believe in this garbage, thats all the proof you need? Are you fucking kidding me? Those idiot clowns you listed are so god damn pathetic, they are ignored and written off as loons by the entire world, just like everyone on this site does with YOU eots. For every incompetent "expert" you come up with that agrees with you, there are 10,000 highly talented ones who will disagree.

Its fitting that you and your ilk live in shame, even if you are too far gone to know its there.

 

[eots]

all leading phsisi 8in the agree with you excuse me ?...you have no idea what your talking about...you just pulled that statement out of your ass..didint you...popular mechanics is not...all the leading physicist in the world...goofball.....so to you all these people are despicable liars ? and loons....

If all the worlds scientists, engineers and physicists agreed with your crazy story, then we wouldnt be having this debate, because the world would agree with you, but they dont, they agree with me.

you are completely delusional if you believe the world shares your opinion

You think because you can list a few people who also believe in this garbage, thats all the proof you need? Are you fucking kidding me? Those idiot clowns you listed are so god damn pathetic,

so to some goof like you...top level nasa scientist given presidential awards of merit are...idiot clowns and pathetic....intresting...and everytime youspeak of what ..everyone [/I ]thnks..you only show your herd mentality

they are ignored and written off as loons by the entire world, just like everyone on this site does with YOU eots. For every incompetent "expert" you come up with that agrees with you, there are 10,000 highly talented ones who will disagree.

can you list any nasa scientist speaking out in support of the official stroy...no i didnt think so,,,just a false empty statement...backed with nothing

Its fitting that you and your ilk live in shame, even if you are too far gone to know its there]
the shame is your for your slander of these brave patriots..even if you dont know it

i will gladly stand in the ilk of theswe brave men..and you can stand over there with Bush and poular mechanics..i am fine with that..and the true shame is your slander of these patriots


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Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.



Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot. Former instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program. As an Air Force weapons effects expert was responsible for wartime tasking of most appropriate aircraft/munition for target destruction to include steel and concrete superstructures. Former aeronautical structures flight test engineer with McDonnell Douglas, working on advanced DC-9 autopilot systems and DC-10 flight envelope expansion stress and flutter analysis. Tactical aircraft flown: General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber, McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle, General Dynamics / Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet, Boeing B-1 Bomber, MiG-29 (Russian fighter), and Su-22 (Russian fighter/bomber). 3,000+ fighter hours. Combat time over Iraq. 20-year Air Force career.
Statement to this website 3/25/07: "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.
The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building’s collapse before it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. Further damning evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building collapse." [Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.]

We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.

We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason


Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see General Stubblebine, Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.


Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"The government conspiracy theory does not hold up to scrutiny. As a professional with over 30 years experience working with gas turbines (jet engines) and fuels - kerosene (jet fuel) does not burn in any open flame hot enough to effect steel - well under 1000 deg F. Also bogus are the explanations regarding why no planes were intercepted. SOP [Standard Operating Procedure] is they are always, always intercepted if they stray off course and/or turn off the transponder like these flights all did. No command decision needed. Has our government ever been untruthful to us?" AE911Truth
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[Godboy]

can you list any nasa scientist speaking out in support of the official stroy...no i didnt think so,,,just a false empty statement...backed with nothing

What makes you think normal people would go on record to talk about events everyone already knows the answers to? Im going to have a hard time finding anything where those same people speak about the holocaust, but that doesnt mean the holocaust didnt happen. You see, delusional people like yourself lack the simple logic required to have any true understanding of the 9/11 events, so you just make up lies and call them "facts" and "proof".

...and by the way, there is absolutely no reason for me to believe any person youve ever listed is actually a real person. You never stop spreading lies about 9/11, so you have NO credibility. The nut job websites you cut and paste from have no credibility either, because just like you, they have been caught in lie after lie.

 

[Toro]

Geez, are you people for real??? The swine flu is simply that - THE SWINE FLU!!! And it originated in a third world country where health rules/laws are non-existent and where medical care is obsolete for the poor. Get a clue people. As many of you have heard, Mexico is now playing the victim as per usual and saying that this flu originated in the USA. When you have something like this originate in a country who NEVER takes responsibility for their failures, it's no wonder it has turned into a pandemic! By the time THEY identified this virus, it was too late for the industralized countries to keep it in check. And how in the world can this president and his cronies say that closing the border will not do any good??? They ShOULD have closed it the minute it was known that it originated in Mexico. And to say that it is too late as the bug is already here?? Of course it is!!! They DID NOT do anything to prevent it from not entering the USA. If ONE person comes in with it, can he/she infect as many people as maybe 100, 500 who enter???? Either by plane, boat, foot??? What is wrong here? The world is feeding the masses a bunch of bull s***.

Wow, are you ever stoopid. Don't you know that the swine flu is part of a grand conspiracy concocted by Bush, the neo-cons, the oil companies, the Illuminati, da Joos, the Shriners and the NFL to take over the world. First, they kill JFK. Then, they fake the moon landing. Then, the Mets win the World Series. Then, they stage 9/11. Then, they deliberately destroy the economy. Then, a bear, an eagle and a badger battle in heaven. And now, the swine flu! You Bush Dupes are all the same, with your head in the sand and your high school diplomas and all...

 

[eots]

can you list any nasa scientist speaking out in support of the official story...no i didnt think so,,,just a false empty statement...backed with nothing

What makes you think normal people would go on record to talk about events everyone already knows the answers to? Im going to have a hard time finding anything where those same people speak about the holocaust, but that doesnt mean the holocaust didnt happen. You see, delusional people like yourself lack the simple logic required to have any true understanding of the 9/11 events, so you just make up lies and call them "facts" and "proof".

so you call these patriots and men of distinguished service as holocaust deniers ? thats your straw man ? what a piece of crap you are...

...and by the way, there is absolutely no reason for me to believe any person youve ever listed is actually a real person.

wow thats a grad conspiracy..any proof of these charges

You never stop spreading lies about 9/11, so you have NO credibility. The nut job websites you cut and paste from have no credibility either, because just like you, they have been caught in lie after lie.

again accusations with zero evidence this men are very real...well known to many ..
the site has been up for 6 years and is supported by donation..its not that hard to
to confirm these are real people..its just denial on your part..and something you could never substantiate...your a joke

 

[eots]

Geez, are you people for real??? The swine flu is simply that - THE SWINE FLU!!! And it originated in a third world country where health rules/laws are non-existent and where medical care is obsolete for the poor. Get a clue people. As many of you have heard, Mexico is now playing the victim as per usual and saying that this flu originated in the USA. When you have something like this originate in a country who NEVER takes responsibility for their failures, it's no wonder it has turned into a pandemic! By the time THEY identified this virus, it was too late for the industralized countries to keep it in check. And how in the world can this president and his cronies say that closing the border will not do any good??? They ShOULD have closed it the minute it was known that it originated in Mexico. And to say that it is too late as the bug is already here?? Of course it is!!! They DID NOT do anything to prevent it from not entering the USA. If ONE person comes in with it, can he/she infect as many people as maybe 100, 500 who enter???? Either by plane, boat, foot??? What is wrong here? The world is feeding the masses a bunch of bull s***.

Wow, are you ever stoopid. Don't you know that the swine flu is part of a grand conspiracy concocted by Bush, the neo-cons, the oil companies, the Illuminati, da Joos, the Shriners and the NFL to take over the world. First, they kill JFK. Then, they fake the moon landing. Then, the Mets win the World Series. Then, they stage 9/11. Then, they deliberately destroy the economy. Then, a bear, an eagle and a badger battle in heaven. And now, the swine flu! You Bush Dupes are all the same, with your head in the sand and your high school diplomas and all...

and then comes toro..who cant address the real issue and instead ..makes up a bunch of weirdness in a flailing attempt to distract from what is really being said

 

[Toro]

and then comes toro..who cant address the real issue and instead ..makes up a bunch of weirdness in a flailing attempt to distract from what is really being said

I'm not distracting. I'm mocking.

 

[eots]

well toro believes that high ranking military experts and nasa scientist are in on a conspiracy with with bin laden ..to discredit popular mechanics...how whack is that...and I'm not even mocking..

Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army &#8211; Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see General Stubblebine, Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.



Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng &#8211; Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 600 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition


Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.


Bio: NASA - Dryden Flight Research Center



Larry L. Erickson, BS Aeronautical Eng, MS Aeronautical Eng, PhD Eng Mechanics &#8211; Retired NASA Aerospace Engineer and Research Scientist. Conducted research in the fields of structural dynamics, aerodynamics, aeroelasticity and flutter. Recipient of NASA's Aerodynamics Division Researcher-of-the-Year Award. 33-year NASA career. Member, American Institute of Aeronautics & Astronautics. Instructor, Physics and Aerospace Engineering, California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo 1998 - present. Author and co-author of several scientific papers on aerodynamic analysis. Contributing author to Applied Computational Aerodynamics (1990).
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"Serious technical investigations by experts seem to be lacking from the official explanations." AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 600 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition


Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.





Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) &#8211; Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force career. Member adjunct faculty, Political Science Department, James Madison University. Instructor, University of Maryland University College and American Public University System. Author of African Crisis Response Initiative: Past Present and Future (2000) and Expeditionary Air Operations in Africa: Challenges and Solutions (2001).

Contributor to 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out 8/23/06: Account of Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, Pentagon employee and eyewitness to the events at the Pentagon on 9/11.

"I believe the Commission failed to deeply examine the topic at hand, failed to apply scientific rigor to its assessment of events leading up to and including 9/11, failed to produce a believable and unbiased summary of what happened, failed to fully examine why it happened, and even failed to include a set of unanswered questions for future research. ...

It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics. The collapses of the World Trade Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics. ...

There was a dearth of visible debris on the relatively unmarked [Pentagon] lawn, where I stood only minutes after the impact. Beyond this strange absence of airliner debris, there was no sign of the kind of damage to the Pentagon structure one would expect from the impact of a large airliner. This visible evidence or lack thereof may also have been apparent to the secretary of defense [Donald Rumsfeld], who in an unfortunate slip of the tongue referred to the aircraft that slammed into the Pentagon as a "missile". ...

I saw nothing of significance at the point of impact - no airplane metal or cargo debris was blowing on the lawn in front of the damaged building as smoke billowed from within the Pentagon. ... all of us staring at the Pentagon that morning were indeed looking for such debris, but what we expected to see was not evident.

The same is true with regard to the kind of damage we expected. ... But I did not see this kind of damage. Rather, the facade had a rather small hole, no larger than 20 feet in diameter. Although this facade later collapsed, it remained standing for 30 or 40 minutes, with the roof line remaining relatively straight.

The scene, in short, was not what I would have expected from a strike by a large jetliner. It was, however, exactly what one would expect if a missile had struck the Pentagon. ...

More information is certainly needed regarding the events of 9/11 and the events leading up to that terrible day."


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see General Stubblebine, Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Capt. Davis, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.


Member: Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven Association Statement: "We have found solid scientific grounds on which to question the interpretation put upon the events of September 11, 2001 by the Office of the President of the United States of America and subsequently propagated by the major media of western nations."


Bio: http://militaryweek.com/


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