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Biblically speaking, a Jew can eat beef, say the after-meal blessing, brush his teeth and eat cheese without waiting.
It is NOT a health issue.
It is a matter of admitting through one's behavior that God is the Boss.
What if when Jesus said to Peter, 'feed my sheep' , Peter went out immediately and gathered up all the fodder he could carry and went around to farms all over the world and fed sheep until the day he died. If Jesus asked him why he did what he did and Peter said, "Because your the boss", would that in any way absolve him from any possible consequences for failure to obey the command because feeding sheep literally had nothing to do with the boss's command?
Shouldn't anyone who hears instruction from a God who always spoke in metaphors and allegory take a few minutes to discern the deeper implications of the words used before they go running off and doing something that is literally not commanded?
Especially when it is a matter of life and death?
Seriously...
Apparently you haven't been learning your Torah.
God did not talk to Moses in metaphors and allegory.
Exodus 33 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre see 33:11
Numbers 12 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre
It comes down to the word once again.... Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.Biblically speaking, a Jew can eat beef, say the after-meal blessing, brush his teeth and eat cheese without waiting.
It is NOT a health issue.
It is a matter of admitting through one's behavior that God is the Boss.
What if when Jesus said to Peter, 'feed my sheep' , Peter went out immediately and gathered up all the fodder he could carry and went around to farms all over the world and fed sheep until the day he died. If Jesus asked him why he did what he did and Peter said, "Because your the boss", would that in any way absolve him from any possible consequences for failure to obey the command because feeding sheep literally had nothing to do with the boss's command?
Shouldn't anyone who hears instruction from a God who always spoke in metaphors and allegory take a few minutes to discern the deeper implications of the words used before they go running off and doing something that is literally not commanded?
Especially when it is a matter of life and death?
Seriously...
Apparently you haven't been learning your Torah.
God did not talk to Moses in metaphors and allegory.
Exodus 33 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre see 33:11
Numbers 12 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre
Yes, God spoke with Moses face to face. Moses understood the meaning and purpose of God in giving the law.
Obviously many have failed to do the same.
To follow the literal meaning of the law which prohibits eating the flesh of swine is a violation of the deeper implications of the very same law.
You like to gamble?
Biblically speaking, a Jew can eat beef, say the after-meal blessing, brush his teeth and eat cheese without waiting.
It is NOT a health issue.
It is a matter of admitting through one's behavior that God is the Boss.
What if when Jesus said to Peter, 'feed my sheep' , Peter went out immediately and gathered up all the fodder he could carry and went around to farms all over the world and fed sheep until the day he died. If Jesus asked him why he did what he did and Peter said, "Because your the boss", would that in any way absolve him from any possible consequences for failure to obey the command because feeding sheep literally had nothing to do with the boss's command?
Shouldn't anyone who hears instruction from a God who always spoke in metaphors and allegory take a few minutes to discern the deeper implications of the words used before they go running off and doing something that is literally not commanded?
Especially when it is a matter of life and death?
Seriously...
Apparently you haven't been learning your Torah.
God did not talk to Moses in metaphors and allegory.
Exodus 33 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre see 33:11
Numbers 12 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre
Yes, God spoke with Moses face to face. Moses understood the meaning and purpose of God in giving the law.
Obviously many have failed to do the same.
To follow the literal meaning of the law which prohibits eating the flesh of swine is a violation of the deeper implications of the very same law.
You like to gamble?
I've never head that before. Some Buddhists think Jesus three year wander in the desert that he went to India and had Buddhist teachings.
another hate christian thread by guano
if bat guno had any balls, even for a leftist, he talk some shit about muslims and buddist.
but alas, even leftist males consider him a wimp
how is telling the truth about how we see "messiah" and you do a "hate christians thread".
psycho.
the reality is that you pretend that jesus was somehow prophesied. he wasn't. there wasn't even agreement on what messiah was. some saw it as a messianic king. some saw it as a spiritual messiah. some saw it as a combination of both.
then constantine made up what he wanted, mixed it with pagan holidays etc and came
Jews and Christians use the word "messiah,' the meaning of the word is quite different in each faith. The Christian understanding is that their messiah, Jesus, died for the sins of the people. The messiah, according to this Christian definition, is supposed to be a human offering: a blood sacrifice necessary for the forgiveness of sin. But we are taught in our Bible that no one can die for the sins of another. In Deuteronomy 24:16 it says this unequivocally:
The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. [Deuteronomy 24:16]
(Please see Essay #1, 'Jews Believe That No One Can Die for the Sins of Another,' and Essay #2, 'Jews Believe That a Blood Sacrifice Is Not Required for Forgiveness of Sins').
The Bible is clear, in verse after verse: no one can die for the sins of another. Regarding what the Bible says about human sacrifice, please see Essay #4, 'Gd hates human sacrifices.'
Jews do not believe that after forbidding human sacrifice, Gd had a change of heart and decided to require it; and we certainly do not believe that it was the sacrifice of Gd's own human 'son' that Gd wanted. After telling Israel to stay away from pagan practices and pagan beliefs, did Gd change Gd's mind and say, 'Okay, now go ahead and believe in a human sacrifice, just as these very pagans believe?' No -- as we saw in Malachi 3:6, Gd is constant and unchanging. (Please see Essay #1, 'Jews Believe That No One Can Die for the Sins of Another').
Gd tells us that any human sacrifice is an abomination, something Gd hates, and so horrible that it would never even come into Gd's mind to demand it of us. Human sacrifice was practiced by the pagans -- those who worshipped and made offerings to one or more imaginary deities -- it was NOT to be practiced by believers in the One Gd.
It should be understood that the Christian definition of the term 'messiah' is pagan. How do Christians define the term messiah? They understand it exactly as the pagans understood their dying-saving man-gods and heroes. The ancient world is filled with examples. Mithra, Adonis, Dionysis, Attis, Ra, and many others were born in the Winter, died in the Spring, and came back to life. This should sound familiar to anyone conversant with Christian theology.
Alongside this, they believed that their followers would have immortal life, since the death of the hero-god acted as the sacrifice for their sins. This should also sound familiar. The pagan world was filled with gods who were the product of a human mother and a god for the father. Heracles had Zeus for a father, and a human mother named Alcmene. Dionysus’s human mother was Semele, and his father was Zeus; Dionysus was considered a savior god. The parallels to Christian theology are plain to see.
When the earliest Christians would come into the synagogues and missionize, they would get kicked out; they were not allowed to stay and preach. They were rejected because their message was pagan and was recognized as such by the Jews. Thus, they were removed and separated from the Jewish people. This shows the real reason why Judaism and Christianity parted ways, dating from the very beginnings of Christianity. It also shows that one cannot be a Jew and a Christian at the same time. (Please see Essay #9 'Jews' for Jesus, Messianic 'Jews', and 'Hebrew' Christians are not Jews').
What Jews Believe: Essay #3: Jesus Not the Messiah
Rabbi Kaduri before his death said different
Rabbi Kaduri was a kabbalist, which i have no problem with but didn't believe the same things as mainstream judaism
I never heard of Rabbi Kaduri.
My son-in-law, who is sefardic, told me yesterday Rabbi Kaduri was a nut.
Biblically speaking, a Jew can eat beef, say the after-meal blessing, brush his teeth and eat cheese without waiting.
It is NOT a health issue.
It is a matter of admitting through one's behavior that God is the Boss.
What if when Jesus said to Peter, 'feed my sheep' , Peter went out immediately and gathered up all the fodder he could carry and went around to farms all over the world and fed sheep until the day he died. If Jesus asked him why he did what he did and Peter said, "Because your the boss", would that in any way absolve him from any possible consequences for failure to obey the command because feeding sheep literally had nothing to do with the boss's command?
Shouldn't anyone who hears instruction from a God who always spoke in metaphors and allegory take a few minutes to discern the deeper implications of the words used before they go running off and doing something that is literally not commanded?
Especially when it is a matter of life and death?
Seriously...
Apparently you haven't been learning your Torah.
God did not talk to Moses in metaphors and allegory.
Exodus 33 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre see 33:11
Numbers 12 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre
Yes, God spoke with Moses face to face. Moses understood the meaning and purpose of God in giving the law.
Obviously many have failed to do the same.
To follow the literal meaning of the law which prohibits eating the flesh of swine is a violation of the deeper implications of the very same law.
You like to gamble?
I agree with you if you mean every commandment has deeper philosophical implications.
another hate christian thread by guano
if bat guno had any balls, even for a leftist, he talk some shit about muslims and buddist.
but alas, even leftist males consider him a wimp
how is telling the truth about how we see "messiah" and you do a "hate christians thread".
psycho.
the reality is that you pretend that jesus was somehow prophesied. he wasn't. there wasn't even agreement on what messiah was. some saw it as a messianic king. some saw it as a spiritual messiah. some saw it as a combination of both.
then constantine made up what he wanted, mixed it with pagan holidays etc and came
Jews and Christians use the word "messiah,' the meaning of the word is quite different in each faith. The Christian understanding is that their messiah, Jesus, died for the sins of the people. The messiah, according to this Christian definition, is supposed to be a human offering: a blood sacrifice necessary for the forgiveness of sin. But we are taught in our Bible that no one can die for the sins of another. In Deuteronomy 24:16 it says this unequivocally:
The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. [Deuteronomy 24:16]
(Please see Essay #1, 'Jews Believe That No One Can Die for the Sins of Another,' and Essay #2, 'Jews Believe That a Blood Sacrifice Is Not Required for Forgiveness of Sins').
The Bible is clear, in verse after verse: no one can die for the sins of another. Regarding what the Bible says about human sacrifice, please see Essay #4, 'Gd hates human sacrifices.'
Jews do not believe that after forbidding human sacrifice, Gd had a change of heart and decided to require it; and we certainly do not believe that it was the sacrifice of Gd's own human 'son' that Gd wanted. After telling Israel to stay away from pagan practices and pagan beliefs, did Gd change Gd's mind and say, 'Okay, now go ahead and believe in a human sacrifice, just as these very pagans believe?' No -- as we saw in Malachi 3:6, Gd is constant and unchanging. (Please see Essay #1, 'Jews Believe That No One Can Die for the Sins of Another').
Gd tells us that any human sacrifice is an abomination, something Gd hates, and so horrible that it would never even come into Gd's mind to demand it of us. Human sacrifice was practiced by the pagans -- those who worshipped and made offerings to one or more imaginary deities -- it was NOT to be practiced by believers in the One Gd.
It should be understood that the Christian definition of the term 'messiah' is pagan. How do Christians define the term messiah? They understand it exactly as the pagans understood their dying-saving man-gods and heroes. The ancient world is filled with examples. Mithra, Adonis, Dionysis, Attis, Ra, and many others were born in the Winter, died in the Spring, and came back to life. This should sound familiar to anyone conversant with Christian theology.
Alongside this, they believed that their followers would have immortal life, since the death of the hero-god acted as the sacrifice for their sins. This should also sound familiar. The pagan world was filled with gods who were the product of a human mother and a god for the father. Heracles had Zeus for a father, and a human mother named Alcmene. Dionysus’s human mother was Semele, and his father was Zeus; Dionysus was considered a savior god. The parallels to Christian theology are plain to see.
When the earliest Christians would come into the synagogues and missionize, they would get kicked out; they were not allowed to stay and preach. They were rejected because their message was pagan and was recognized as such by the Jews. Thus, they were removed and separated from the Jewish people. This shows the real reason why Judaism and Christianity parted ways, dating from the very beginnings of Christianity. It also shows that one cannot be a Jew and a Christian at the same time. (Please see Essay #9 'Jews' for Jesus, Messianic 'Jews', and 'Hebrew' Christians are not Jews').
What Jews Believe: Essay #3: Jesus Not the Messiah
Rabbi Kaduri before his death said different
Rabbi Kaduri was a kabbalist, which i have no problem with but didn't believe the same things as mainstream judaism
I never heard of Rabbi Kaduri.
My son-in-law, who is sefardic, told me yesterday Rabbi Kaduri was a nut.Biblically speaking, a Jew can eat beef, say the after-meal blessing, brush his teeth and eat cheese without waiting.
It is NOT a health issue.
It is a matter of admitting through one's behavior that God is the Boss.
What if when Jesus said to Peter, 'feed my sheep' , Peter went out immediately and gathered up all the fodder he could carry and went around to farms all over the world and fed sheep until the day he died. If Jesus asked him why he did what he did and Peter said, "Because your the boss", would that in any way absolve him from any possible consequences for failure to obey the command because feeding sheep literally had nothing to do with the boss's command?
Shouldn't anyone who hears instruction from a God who always spoke in metaphors and allegory take a few minutes to discern the deeper implications of the words used before they go running off and doing something that is literally not commanded?
Especially when it is a matter of life and death?
Seriously...
Apparently you haven't been learning your Torah.
God did not talk to Moses in metaphors and allegory.
Exodus 33 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre see 33:11
Numbers 12 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre
Yes, God spoke with Moses face to face. Moses understood the meaning and purpose of God in giving the law.
Obviously many have failed to do the same.
To follow the literal meaning of the law which prohibits eating the flesh of swine is a violation of the deeper implications of the very same law.
You like to gamble?
I agree with you if you mean every commandment has deeper philosophical implications.
Yes, but the choice between life and death is not only a choice about whether if you comply with the laws demands or not it is about the way you understand and apply the law.
If, as in the example I gave, the literal interpretation and application of the written law is a violation of the deeper and more significant implications of the very same law then any dedicated person with a love for God and truth would have to choose between one way or the other to follow, worrying about what food goes into their mouth, because God is the Boss, or what teaching goes into the mind.
It is impossible for both ways to reflect the wisdom and will of a holy God.
another hate christian thread by guano
if bat guno had any balls, even for a leftist, he talk some shit about muslims and buddist.
but alas, even leftist males consider him a wimp
how is telling the truth about how we see "messiah" and you do a "hate christians thread".
psycho.
the reality is that you pretend that jesus was somehow prophesied. he wasn't. there wasn't even agreement on what messiah was. some saw it as a messianic king. some saw it as a spiritual messiah. some saw it as a combination of both.
then constantine made up what he wanted, mixed it with pagan holidays etc and came
Jews and Christians use the word "messiah,' the meaning of the word is quite different in each faith. The Christian understanding is that their messiah, Jesus, died for the sins of the people. The messiah, according to this Christian definition, is supposed to be a human offering: a blood sacrifice necessary for the forgiveness of sin. But we are taught in our Bible that no one can die for the sins of another. In Deuteronomy 24:16 it says this unequivocally:
The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. [Deuteronomy 24:16]
(Please see Essay #1, 'Jews Believe That No One Can Die for the Sins of Another,' and Essay #2, 'Jews Believe That a Blood Sacrifice Is Not Required for Forgiveness of Sins').
The Bible is clear, in verse after verse: no one can die for the sins of another. Regarding what the Bible says about human sacrifice, please see Essay #4, 'Gd hates human sacrifices.'
Jews do not believe that after forbidding human sacrifice, Gd had a change of heart and decided to require it; and we certainly do not believe that it was the sacrifice of Gd's own human 'son' that Gd wanted. After telling Israel to stay away from pagan practices and pagan beliefs, did Gd change Gd's mind and say, 'Okay, now go ahead and believe in a human sacrifice, just as these very pagans believe?' No -- as we saw in Malachi 3:6, Gd is constant and unchanging. (Please see Essay #1, 'Jews Believe That No One Can Die for the Sins of Another').
Gd tells us that any human sacrifice is an abomination, something Gd hates, and so horrible that it would never even come into Gd's mind to demand it of us. Human sacrifice was practiced by the pagans -- those who worshipped and made offerings to one or more imaginary deities -- it was NOT to be practiced by believers in the One Gd.
It should be understood that the Christian definition of the term 'messiah' is pagan. How do Christians define the term messiah? They understand it exactly as the pagans understood their dying-saving man-gods and heroes. The ancient world is filled with examples. Mithra, Adonis, Dionysis, Attis, Ra, and many others were born in the Winter, died in the Spring, and came back to life. This should sound familiar to anyone conversant with Christian theology.
Alongside this, they believed that their followers would have immortal life, since the death of the hero-god acted as the sacrifice for their sins. This should also sound familiar. The pagan world was filled with gods who were the product of a human mother and a god for the father. Heracles had Zeus for a father, and a human mother named Alcmene. Dionysus’s human mother was Semele, and his father was Zeus; Dionysus was considered a savior god. The parallels to Christian theology are plain to see.
When the earliest Christians would come into the synagogues and missionize, they would get kicked out; they were not allowed to stay and preach. They were rejected because their message was pagan and was recognized as such by the Jews. Thus, they were removed and separated from the Jewish people. This shows the real reason why Judaism and Christianity parted ways, dating from the very beginnings of Christianity. It also shows that one cannot be a Jew and a Christian at the same time. (Please see Essay #9 'Jews' for Jesus, Messianic 'Jews', and 'Hebrew' Christians are not Jews').
What Jews Believe: Essay #3: Jesus Not the Messiah
Rabbi Kaduri before his death said different
Rabbi Kaduri was a kabbalist, which i have no problem with but didn't believe the same things as mainstream judaism
I never heard of Rabbi Kaduri.
My son-in-law, who is sefardic, told me yesterday Rabbi Kaduri was a nut.What if when Jesus said to Peter, 'feed my sheep' , Peter went out immediately and gathered up all the fodder he could carry and went around to farms all over the world and fed sheep until the day he died. If Jesus asked him why he did what he did and Peter said, "Because your the boss", would that in any way absolve him from any possible consequences for failure to obey the command because feeding sheep literally had nothing to do with the boss's command?
Shouldn't anyone who hears instruction from a God who always spoke in metaphors and allegory take a few minutes to discern the deeper implications of the words used before they go running off and doing something that is literally not commanded?
Especially when it is a matter of life and death?
Seriously...
Apparently you haven't been learning your Torah.
God did not talk to Moses in metaphors and allegory.
Exodus 33 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre see 33:11
Numbers 12 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre
Yes, God spoke with Moses face to face. Moses understood the meaning and purpose of God in giving the law.
Obviously many have failed to do the same.
To follow the literal meaning of the law which prohibits eating the flesh of swine is a violation of the deeper implications of the very same law.
You like to gamble?
I agree with you if you mean every commandment has deeper philosophical implications.
Yes, but the choice between life and death is not only a choice about whether if you comply with the laws demands or not it is about the way you understand and apply the law.
If, as in the example I gave, the literal interpretation and application of the written law is a violation of the deeper and more significant implications of the very same law then any dedicated person with a love for God and truth would have to choose between one way or the other to follow, worrying about what food goes into their mouth, because God is the Boss, or what teaching goes into the mind.
It is impossible for both ways to reflect the wisdom and will of a holy God.
"Literal Interpretation" is a rarity in Rabbinic thought.
The Kaarites were literal and they're gone..
"Literal Interpretation" is a rarity in Rabbinic thought.
plz link the thread where any of you leftist twunts call down islamanother hate christian thread by guano
if bat guno had any balls, even for a leftist, he talk some shit about muslims and buddist.
but alas, even leftist males consider him a wimp
how is telling the truth about how we see "messiah" and you do a "hate christians thread".
psycho.
the reality is that you pretend that jesus was somehow prophesied. he wasn't. there wasn't even agreement on what messiah was. some saw it as a messianic king. some saw it as a spiritual messiah. some saw it as a combination of both.
then constantine made up what he wanted, mixed it with pagan holidays etc and came up with your version of christianity.
you can believe what you want. others believe (or don't believe) what they want, but pointing out those differences isn't hate.
except to the insane.
Jews and Christians use the word "messiah,' the meaning of the word is quite different in each faith. The Christian understanding is that their messiah, Jesus, died for the sins of the people. The messiah, according to this Christian definition, is supposed to be a human offering: a blood sacrifice necessary for the forgiveness of sin. But we are taught in our Bible that no one can die for the sins of another. In Deuteronomy 24:16 it says this unequivocally:
The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. [Deuteronomy 24:16]
(Please see Essay #1, 'Jews Believe That No One Can Die for the Sins of Another,' and Essay #2, 'Jews Believe That a Blood Sacrifice Is Not Required for Forgiveness of Sins').
The Bible is clear, in verse after verse: no one can die for the sins of another. Regarding what the Bible says about human sacrifice, please see Essay #4, 'Gd hates human sacrifices.'
Jews do not believe that after forbidding human sacrifice, Gd had a change of heart and decided to require it; and we certainly do not believe that it was the sacrifice of Gd's own human 'son' that Gd wanted. After telling Israel to stay away from pagan practices and pagan beliefs, did Gd change Gd's mind and say, 'Okay, now go ahead and believe in a human sacrifice, just as these very pagans believe?' No -- as we saw in Malachi 3:6, Gd is constant and unchanging. (Please see Essay #1, 'Jews Believe That No One Can Die for the Sins of Another').
Gd tells us that any human sacrifice is an abomination, something Gd hates, and so horrible that it would never even come into Gd's mind to demand it of us. Human sacrifice was practiced by the pagans -- those who worshipped and made offerings to one or more imaginary deities -- it was NOT to be practiced by believers in the One Gd.
It should be understood that the Christian definition of the term 'messiah' is pagan. How do Christians define the term messiah? They understand it exactly as the pagans understood their dying-saving man-gods and heroes. The ancient world is filled with examples. Mithra, Adonis, Dionysis, Attis, Ra, and many others were born in the Winter, died in the Spring, and came back to life. This should sound familiar to anyone conversant with Christian theology.
Alongside this, they believed that their followers would have immortal life, since the death of the hero-god acted as the sacrifice for their sins. This should also sound familiar. The pagan world was filled with gods who were the product of a human mother and a god for the father. Heracles had Zeus for a father, and a human mother named Alcmene. Dionysus’s human mother was Semele, and his father was Zeus; Dionysus was considered a savior god. The parallels to Christian theology are plain to see.
When the earliest Christians would come into the synagogues and missionize, they would get kicked out; they were not allowed to stay and preach. They were rejected because their message was pagan and was recognized as such by the Jews. Thus, they were removed and separated from the Jewish people. This shows the real reason why Judaism and Christianity parted ways, dating from the very beginnings of Christianity. It also shows that one cannot be a Jew and a Christian at the same time. (Please see Essay #9 'Jews' for Jesus, Messianic 'Jews', and 'Hebrew' Christians are not Jews').
What Jews Believe: Essay #3: Jesus Not the Messiah
Biblically speaking, a Jew can eat beef, say the after-meal blessing, brush his teeth and eat cheese without waiting.
It is NOT a health issue.
It is a matter of admitting through one's behavior that God is the Boss.
What if when Jesus said to Peter, 'feed my sheep' , Peter went out immediately and gathered up all the fodder he could carry and went around to farms all over the world and fed sheep until the day he died. If Jesus asked him why he did what he did and Peter said, "Because your the boss", would that in any way absolve him from any possible consequences for failure to obey the command because feeding sheep literally had nothing to do with the boss's command?
Shouldn't anyone who hears instruction from a God who always spoke in metaphors and allegory take a few minutes to discern the deeper implications of the words used before they go running off and doing something that is literally not commanded?
Especially when it is a matter of life and death?
Seriously...
Apparently you haven't been learning your Torah.
God did not talk to Moses in metaphors and allegory.
Exodus 33 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre see 33:11
Numbers 12 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre
Yes, God spoke with Moses face to face. Moses understood the meaning and purpose of God in giving the law.
Obviously many have failed to do the same.
To follow the literal meaning of the law which prohibits eating the flesh of swine is a violation of the deeper implications of the very same law.
You like to gamble?
I agree with you if you mean every commandment has deeper philosophical implications.
You self identified Jews and even many Christians have no clue what the laws of Moses are really saying. Sorry that is just the way it is because you are all stuck in that carnal mode and unwilling or incapable of getting past that to understand that it is the spirit within that makes sure that the law of Moses is fulfilled. At least with the anointing of Jesus Christ Christians have that whether they understand and know it or not (some just have not reached maturity yet to get it).
No it wasn't. Truth is just hard for some people to hear or accept.You self identified Jews and even many Christians have no clue what the laws of Moses are really saying. Sorry that is just the way it is because you are all stuck in that carnal mode and unwilling or incapable of getting past that to understand that it is the spirit within that makes sure that the law of Moses is fulfilled. At least with the anointing of Jesus Christ Christians have that whether they understand and know it or not (some just have not reached maturity yet to get it).
your comment------Rad------is VULGAR and silly
We have entire libraries dedicated to discussing the many deep concepts of the Commandments.You self identified Jews and even many Christians have no clue what the laws of Moses are really saying. Sorry that is just the way it is because you are all stuck in that carnal mode and unwilling or incapable of getting past that to understand that it is the spirit within that makes sure that the law of Moses is fulfilled. At least with the anointing of Jesus Christ Christians have that whether they understand and know it or not (some just have not reached maturity yet to get it).
Zechariah 1 / Hebrew - English Bible / Mechon-MamreJews and Christians use the word "messiah,' the meaning of the word is quite different in each faith. The Christian understanding is that their messiah, Jesus, died for the sins of the people. The messiah, according to this Christian definition, is supposed to be a human offering: a blood sacrifice necessary for the forgiveness of sin. But we are taught in our Bible that no one can die for the sins of another. In Deuteronomy 24:16 it says this unequivocally:
The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. [Deuteronomy 24:16]
(Please see Essay #1, 'Jews Believe That No One Can Die for the Sins of Another,' and Essay #2, 'Jews Believe That a Blood Sacrifice Is Not Required for Forgiveness of Sins').
The Bible is clear, in verse after verse: no one can die for the sins of another. Regarding what the Bible says about human sacrifice, please see Essay #4, 'Gd hates human sacrifices.'
Jews do not believe that after forbidding human sacrifice, Gd had a change of heart and decided to require it; and we certainly do not believe that it was the sacrifice of Gd's own human 'son' that Gd wanted. After telling Israel to stay away from pagan practices and pagan beliefs, did Gd change Gd's mind and say, 'Okay, now go ahead and believe in a human sacrifice, just as these very pagans believe?' No -- as we saw in Malachi 3:6, Gd is constant and unchanging. (Please see Essay #1, 'Jews Believe That No One Can Die for the Sins of Another').
Gd tells us that any human sacrifice is an abomination, something Gd hates, and so horrible that it would never even come into Gd's mind to demand it of us. Human sacrifice was practiced by the pagans -- those who worshipped and made offerings to one or more imaginary deities -- it was NOT to be practiced by believers in the One Gd.
It should be understood that the Christian definition of the term 'messiah' is pagan. How do Christians define the term messiah? They understand it exactly as the pagans understood their dying-saving man-gods and heroes. The ancient world is filled with examples. Mithra, Adonis, Dionysis, Attis, Ra, and many others were born in the Winter, died in the Spring, and came back to life. This should sound familiar to anyone conversant with Christian theology.
Alongside this, they believed that their followers would have immortal life, since the death of the hero-god acted as the sacrifice for their sins. This should also sound familiar. The pagan world was filled with gods who were the product of a human mother and a god for the father. Heracles had Zeus for a father, and a human mother named Alcmene. Dionysus’s human mother was Semele, and his father was Zeus; Dionysus was considered a savior god. The parallels to Christian theology are plain to see.
When the earliest Christians would come into the synagogues and missionize, they would get kicked out; they were not allowed to stay and preach. They were rejected because their message was pagan and was recognized as such by the Jews. Thus, they were removed and separated from the Jewish people. This shows the real reason why Judaism and Christianity parted ways, dating from the very beginnings of Christianity. It also shows that one cannot be a Jew and a Christian at the same time. (Please see Essay #9 'Jews' for Jesus, Messianic 'Jews', and 'Hebrew' Christians are not Jews').
What Jews Believe: Essay #3: Jesus Not the Messiah
I see the Old Testament paining a picture of Messiah. Zechariah for example is a dreamscape pointing to the man called branch
Zechariah: A Dreamscape Pointing to a Man Called Branch
I don't gamble...I actually study the original.Biblically speaking, a Jew can eat beef, say the after-meal blessing, brush his teeth and eat cheese without waiting.
It is NOT a health issue.
It is a matter of admitting through one's behavior that God is the Boss.
What if when Jesus said to Peter, 'feed my sheep' , Peter went out immediately and gathered up all the fodder he could carry and went around to farms all over the world and fed sheep until the day he died. If Jesus asked him why he did what he did and Peter said, "Because your the boss", would that in any way absolve him from any possible consequences for failure to obey the command because feeding sheep literally had nothing to do with the boss's command?
Shouldn't anyone who hears instruction from a God who always spoke in metaphors and allegory take a few minutes to discern the deeper implications of the words used before they go running off and doing something that is literally not commanded?
Especially when it is a matter of life and death?
Seriously...
Apparently you haven't been learning your Torah.
God did not talk to Moses in metaphors and allegory.
Exodus 33 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre see 33:11
Numbers 12 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre
Yes, God spoke with Moses face to face. Moses understood the meaning and purpose of God in giving the law.
Obviously many have failed to do the same.
To follow the literal meaning of the law which prohibits eating the flesh of swine is a violation of the deeper implications of the very same law.
You like to gamble?
No it wasn't. Truth is just hard for some people to hear or accept.[/QUOTEYou self identified Jews and even many Christians have no clue what the laws of Moses are really saying. Sorry that is just the way it is because you are all stuck in that carnal mode and unwilling or incapable of getting past that to understand that it is the spirit within that makes sure that the law of Moses is fulfilled. At least with the anointing of Jesus Christ Christians have that whether they understand and know it or not (some just have not reached maturity yet to get it).
your comment------Rad------is VULGAR and silly
yes-----vulgar people like you. Moses was a jew-----you have no idea what his writings mean. In fact, you have no idea what the words CREDIBLY attributed to Jesus of Galilee meant. Constantine was more your type
The answers evidently were not revealed to those who practice Judaism either. Again because the spirit has not shown them how it works. Without faith and the spirit one cannot see it even when it is written plain easy to understand language. That also serves a purpose. With carnal minds we cannot overcome our own vanity and pride to see more clearly and it doesn't matter how long or how hard one studies the scriptures. Until one can overcome with the help of the holy spirit one cannot see clearly.We have entire libraries dedicated to discussing the many deep concepts of the Commandments.You self identified Jews and even many Christians have no clue what the laws of Moses are really saying. Sorry that is just the way it is because you are all stuck in that carnal mode and unwilling or incapable of getting past that to understand that it is the spirit within that makes sure that the law of Moses is fulfilled. At least with the anointing of Jesus Christ Christians have that whether they understand and know it or not (some just have not reached maturity yet to get it).
The issue is that Christians are not educated to pursue these paths.
Judaism demands we ask questions.
You are entitled to your opinion but that doesn't make you opinion the truth.No it wasn't. Truth is just hard for some people to hear or accept.[/QUOTEYou self identified Jews and even many Christians have no clue what the laws of Moses are really saying. Sorry that is just the way it is because you are all stuck in that carnal mode and unwilling or incapable of getting past that to understand that it is the spirit within that makes sure that the law of Moses is fulfilled. At least with the anointing of Jesus Christ Christians have that whether they understand and know it or not (some just have not reached maturity yet to get it).
your comment------Rad------is VULGAR and silly
yes-----vulgar people like you. Moses was a jew-----you have no idea what his writings mean. In fact, you have no idea what the words CREDIBLY attributed to Jesus of Galilee meant. Constantine was more your type
