Medicare Costs Per Recipient Are LOWER in Real Terms Than In 2011.....

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A Huge Threat to the U.S. Budget Has Receded. And No One Is Sure Why.


Roughly 85% under 2011 projections.

That, people, is BIG.

Some of the reductions are easy to explain. Congress changed Medicare policy. The biggest such shift came with the Affordable Care Act in 2010, which reduced Medicare’s payments to hospitals and to health insurers that offered private Medicare Advantage plans. Congress also cut Medicare payments as part of a budget deal in 2011...

Older Americans appear to be having fewer heart attacks and strokes, the likely result of effective cholesterol and blood pressure medicines that became cheap and widely used in recent years, according to research from Professor Cutler and colleagues. And drug makers and surgeons haven’t developed as many new blockbuster treatments recently — there has been no new Prozac or angioplasty to drive up spending. (Medicare is currently barred by statute from covering the new class of expensive anti-obesity drugs.)..


Medicare may even wind up saving money because of Covid-19 — because the older Americans who died from the disease tended to have other illnesses that would have been expensive to treat if they had survived, according to an analysis from the Medicare actuary....
If Medicare spending had grown the way it had for much of its history, federal spending would have been $3.9 trillion higher since 2011, and deficits would have been more than a quarter larger, according to an Upshot analysis. The difference is more than could be saved by raising the eligibility age for Social Security or converting Medicaid into a block grant, controversial proposals raised by legislators concerned about the federal debt.

From the looks of it, we have Obama and Biden to thank for much of the improvement......More Wages of Too Many Americans Working...


From the 2023 Medicare Trustees Report....
As figure III.B1 illustrates, HI income increased at a faster rate during
2011–2016 than HI expenditures, in contrast to the situation that has
prevailed during most of the program’s history. The recovery from the

economic recession (which ended in 2009) accelerated income growth
during this period. At the same time, the provider payment updates
mentioned previously slowed expenditure growth significantly. From
2017 through 2020, expenditure growth increased more rapidly than
income growth; however, a reversal occurred in 2021 and 2022 due to
repayment of the accelerated and advance payments and the slower
rebound in utilization in those years, along with higher payroll tax

income in 2022. Beginning in 2023, expenditure growth is expected to
reverse course again and increase more rapidly than income

throughout the projection period.
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It is worth remembering this the next time you are told of the pending apocalypse.....
 
Its not about Obamacare.
Republicans gave up on replacing it.
Medicare is going bankrupt ~2030, that is the immediate crisis.
Medicaid is not solvent for long either, esp after so many migrants are left into the US illegally.

 
Still costs over 12X what it was projected to cost -counting inflation- back when it was enacted.

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Its not about Obamacare.
Republicans gave up on replacing it.
Medicare is going bankrupt ~2030, that is the immediate crisis.
Medicaid is not solvent for long either, esp after so many migrants are left into the US illegally.

Try to understand...

This is updated annually
Its not about Obamacare.
Republicans gave up on replacing it.
Medicare is going bankrupt ~2030, that is the immediate crisis.
Medicaid is not solvent for long either, esp after so many migrants are left into the US illegally.

As the OP makes clear, employment is a key variable.

The GOP has a miserable record in this regard stretching back to 1989...
 
Try to understand...
This is updated annually
As the OP makes clear, employment is a key variable.
The GOP has a miserable record in this regard stretching back to 1989...
Its not the GOP, its the Medicare Trustee Report.
How can they project open borders and millions of migrants?

But I get your point, 2 or 3 years ago Medicare was projected to be insolvent in 2024, now its 2030.
 
Its not the GOP, its the Medicare Trustee Report.
How can they project open borders and millions of migrants?

But I get your point, 2 or 3 years ago Medicare was projected to be insolvent in 2024, now its 2030.
Updated annually is code for changing the metric to the most favorable outcome for the next budget justification.
 
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Its not the GOP, its the Medicare Trustee Report.
How can they project open borders and millions of migrants?

But I get your point, 2 or 3 years ago Medicare was projected to be insolvent in 2024, now its 2030.
It's the GOP administrations which have been failing to generate jobs necessary to fund it
 
It's the GOP administrations which have been failing to generate jobs necessary to fund it
Trump's budgets were about $4T
Biden's budgets are about $7T, with $1T in new borrowing
Trump's unemployment rate was about what Biden's is

The additional borrowing is way worse for entitlements.
 
Trump's budgets were about $4T
Biden's budgets are about $7T, with $1T in new borrowing
Trump's unemployment rate was about what Biden's is

The additional borrowing is way worse for entitlements.
I'm going to tell you that you're full of shit and invite you to post your sources.
 
prove me wrong.
You cocksuckers are all the same.

I tell you something, you demand that I prove it.

You assert something, you demand I must prove you wrong.

Show me where Trump's unemployment rate is half of Biden's

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