McCain can't answer simple question

[sealybobo]

Pick you battles.

Is that really so hard to figure out?

You can either rush headlong like an damned fool and play into the hands of the opposition, or you can decide the terrain upon which you want to have the fight.

Exactly. American voters aren't the most educated voters and the Dems know exactly how they lost the last couple elections. Patriotism, tax breaks and fiscal responsibility. Yea, right. LOL.

 

[Ravi]

Hey STUPID, I guess you missed where others have shown in their states and in insurance in general it is fucking covered. In fact it makes fiscal sense for insurance to pay for it, what is cheaper? Paying for cheap birth control or shelling out those thousands for babies?

You simple amaze me how STUPID you are.

Google around and you'll find that many insurance companies don't cover birth control. And maybe your daughter lied about her income, or yours, but it isn't a regular thing that anyone can get free birth control.

Go Ask Alice!: I need free birth control! Please?

 

[Ravi]

It was going to pass with our without her vote.

You could say the same about the Iraq vote. But of course, you won't.

 

[Ravi]

Or they made a political calculation. Obama did this one I believe. He doesn't want to give the GOP any ammo to use against him.

So he's just a big of a phony as the rest of the politicians. He only pretended that he was going to stand up for his convictions.

 

[Ravi]

Pick you battles.

Is that really so hard to figure out?

You can either rush headlong like an damned fool and play into the hands of the opposition, or you can decide the terrain upon which you want to have the fight.

Interesting.

 

[CharlestonChad]

anyone taken ecstasy and viagra together?

 

[BrianH]

IMO, I don't think Viagra and Birth Control are even comparable. Whether insurance companies cover them or not, they aren't the same thing, and they don't serve even remotely the same purpose. Viagra helps ease symptoms of a disorder...birth-control does have other uses, but a large majority is strictly that...birth control. Which is a personal choice. Now, had we been arguing a Visectomy vs. tube tying, then I would say the two could be compared. I personally think you're arguing apples to oranges on this one.

 

[manifold]

That's easily solved B-man. Just call it PFD (Peak Fertility Disorder) and then birth control pills fall into the same category.

 

[Ravi]

IMO, I don't think Viagra and Birth Control are even comparable. Whether insurance companies cover them or not, they aren't the same thing, and they don't serve even remotely the same purpose. Viagra helps ease symptoms of a disorder...birth-control does have other uses, but a large majority is strictly that...birth control. Which is a personal choice. Now, had we been arguing a Visectomy vs. tube tying, then I would say the two could be compared. I personally think you're arguing apples to oranges on this one.

That'd be okay, Brian, except that birth control pills are prescribed for quite a few things that aren't birth control. Just like Viagra is prescribed for at least one thing that isn't a symptom of a disorder. I'll go out on a limb here and say more Viagra is prescribed for recreation purposes.

It's kind of funny because I'm pretty sure the only reason birth control pills aren't automatically covered is because some nimrods fear girls will go wild and have sex indiscriminately. Yet Viagra, which probably produces the same result, is covered.

Wassup with that?

 

[Ravi]

That's easily solved B-man. Just call it PFD (Peak Fertility Disorder) and then birth control pills fall into the same category.

Hey, that's not bad.

 

[Jon]

when she suggested McCain was a better candidate than Obama.

He is. Another reason I support Hillary. Unfortunately, she has to pretend to support Obama for the sake of her hopeful run in 2012. Personally, I'd rather she vocally exclamated that she knows Obama is a racist piece of fucking shit, that she knows McCain is the better candidate, run on an independent ticket to ensure McCain's victory, and then work towards forming a moderate party so she can run in 2012 without the help of extremely liberal fucks like Obama and the rest of the Democratic whack jobs.

 

[Gunny]

It wasn't a hypothetical question. Nor do I think it's particularly partisan. It's more of a gender discrimination issue, actually. Viagra is a covered drug... birth control pills aren't. Don't you think a person who wants to be president should be able to answer why that's the case?

The real answer is the religious right doesn't like birth control pills same as they don't like Acutane so getting Acutane is, according to my dermatoligist friend, an incredible nightmare.

Wow. How long did it take you to dream up THAT conspiracy theory?

"The rabid religious right .... "

McCain said he doesn't know enough about the issue to discuss it. That's a damned-good answer. Because we KNOW what would happen if he talked out his ass and the media and you lefties nailed him for it,don't we?

There'd be 10 separate threads all over this board about how dumb he is.

It's always just automatic lose/lose with you guys, and ALWAYS with you it;s the ever-present and mythical "religious right" out to deprive some poor, unsuspecting soul of their "rights."

 

[BaronVonBigmeat]

Apparently the jews--err, rabid religious right has infiltrated the boardrooms and CEO positions of major health insurance corporations, in a nefarious plot to keep our women pregnant. I also heard they are buying up shoe companies and ordering them to turn out shoddy products, so that they can reach their true goal: all american women under 40...barefoot and pregnant.

The question could have been answered pretty easy, as most political questions can, by looking at property rights. McCaine doesn't give a hoot about property rights, therefore it was a difficult question to answer.

Is it right to offer viagra but not birth control? "Well, I disagree...but it's not my company (property), so my opinion is irrelevant. They didn't mislead customers when they were chosing a provider, and the customers are free to take their business elsewhere. Next question."

 

[editec]

Apparently the jews--err, rabid religious right has infiltrated the boardrooms and CEO positions of major health insurance corporations, in a nefarious plot to keep our women pregnant. I also heard they are buying up shoe companies and ordering them to turn out shoddy products, so that they can reach their true goal: all american women under 40...barefoot and pregnant.

Glad I'm not the only person who sees how silly this battle of the genders for political purposes trolling game really is.

 

[Wow]

Apparently the jews--err, rabid religious right has infiltrated the boardrooms and CEO positions of major health insurance corporations, in a nefarious plot to keep our women pregnant. I also heard they are buying up shoe companies and ordering them to turn out shoddy products, so that they can reach their true goal: all american women under 40...barefoot and pregnant.

The question could have been answered pretty easy, as most political questions can, by looking at property rights. McCaine doesn't give a hoot about property rights, therefore it was a difficult question to answer.

Is it right to offer viagra but not birth control? "Well, I disagree...but it's not my company (property), so my opinion is irrelevant. They didn't mislead customers when they were chosing a provider, and the customers are free to take their business elsewhere. Next question."

Viagra is NOT a form of birth control.
Health Insurance does NOT cover male birth control, why should it cover female birth control?

 

[editec]

Health Insurance does NOT cover male birth control, why should it cover female birth control?

Private health isurance, or public health insurance?

Different arguments, depending.

 

[sealybobo]

He is. Another reason I support Hillary. Unfortunately, she has to pretend to support Obama for the sake of her hopeful run in 2012. Personally, I'd rather she vocally exclamated that she knows Obama is a racist piece of fucking shit, that she knows McCain is the better candidate, run on an independent ticket to ensure McCain's victory, and then work towards forming a moderate party so she can run in 2012 without the help of extremely liberal fucks like Obama and the rest of the Democratic whack jobs.

Wow! Who's the racist, you or Obama? And if what you say is true, the we were right about Hillary and right to support Obama.

If what you say is true, Hillary was lying to us the entire time, which is why I stopped supporting her.

Bill did a good job, but he went along with a lot of things the GOP Congress sent his way. That's why I knew the Clinton's would not represent change. So you are clearly a vote for McCain. That's ok because we don't want or need you.

 

[Jon]

Wow! Who's the racist, you or Obama? And if what you say is true, the we were right about Hillary and right to support Obama.

If what you say is true, Hillary was lying to us the entire time, which is why I stopped supporting her.

Bill did a good job, but he went along with a lot of things the GOP Congress sent his way. That's why I knew the Clinton's would not represent change. So you are clearly a vote for McCain. That's ok because we don't want or need you.

And you think Obama represents change? Pay attention. He's just like every other politician. At least Clinton was willing to admit that fact.

 

[Wow]

Private health isurance, or public health insurance?

Different arguments, depending.

I will refer you to the stupid reporter's stupid question.

 

[sealybobo]

And you think Obama represents change? Pay attention. He's just like every other politician. At least Clinton was willing to admit that fact.

Is John McCain just like every other politician?

They are starting to catch McCain in flat out lies. He said he votes with vets most of the time and gets 100% approval from veteran groups and it turns out he votes with them 20% of the time, Obama votes with vets 80% of the time.

McCain was involved in the Keating 5 scandal. That was in the 80's. They had to bail out the savings and loan industry because of this deregulations scandal. Sound familiar? Exactly what we are going through today with Freddy and Fannie May. He is a good old boy washington insider.

You are looking for reasons/excuses to not vote for Obama, when the fact is, every reason you give, multiply it by ten and slap it on McCain. McCain represents business as usual.

To me, your only reason is you won't vote for a black guy. That's sad. I don't see people that way. He is an American. Every negative put out there about him is a lie/negative smear campaign. Either you are falling for it or using it to try to get others to fall for it. And it is going to get worse in the next few months. The racists are going to come out of the woodworks. I just hope it doesn't work because McCain will bankrupt the country.

Clinton somewhat balanced the budget. I have no reason to believe Obama is not a fiscal responsible guy. I know that none of these politicians are perfect, but he is about as close as you are going to come. If only he was white, you might see it.