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looks like the "escape pod" routine to me.
You mean who nominated him? Cast your mind back to the primaries, and recall, if you will, which states he did well in initially, giving him enough of an appearance of an edge over his competitors for the limp, testosterone-challenged GOP to fall slavering upon him, proclaiming him "electable". You will see that the states in question were ones where - surprise! - Republican primaries are not restricted to actual Republicans.
There was no conservative running!
Thanks for saying what no one else has said....the liberals won the nomination for MCcain not the conservatives as he was not one. They knew he was their best shot at putting Obama in. There was no conservative running!
i was tooI was supporting Duncan Hunter until he dropped out. After that, I pretty much viewed the entire thing as a fiasco looking for a place to happen.
That's not true, Bob Barr was running on the Libertarian Party ticket.
and he didnt even get the usual libertarian votes of 2%That's not true, Bob Barr was running on the Libertarian Party ticket.
I wasn't what you would call a huge fan of Bob Barr's even before this, and I tend to think Libertarians are yammering, one-issue wackjobs.
I tell you, never in my life have I seen a slate of Presidential contenders that made me want to write, "To Hell With It!" across the ballot more than this year's.
and he didnt even get the usual libertarian votes of 2%
what did he get? about 0.5%?
i was too
but he ran an AWEFUL campaign
you got that rightTrue. I got the impression that, like Tancredo, he was really only in it to try to bring some attention to conservative issues and stances, not because he really wanted to be President.
On the other hand, I'm pretty resigned to the fact that anyone who's likely to be a strong conservative candidate is going to essentially be ignored, shunned, and silenced by the media to keep anyone from ever noticing him.
Many Libertarian's were not fans of Bob Barr's either. Being a Libertarian, I have to ask you to explain why you think we're "yammering, one-issue wackjobs."
you got that right
but the media sure gave Ron Paul a lot of attention(compared to the others)
and the reason why was because he made conservatives look like fools
ron paul did more harm to the conservative movement than he(or his supporters) will ever understand
I believe it was 0.4%, it was very disappointing. Barr ran a pretty bad campaign, had very little money, and lost many Ron Paul supporters to Chuck Baldwin by insulting Ron Paul. Not to mention many Libertarian's didn't like him in the first place.
Because many of your brethren are yammering, one-issue wackjobs. I don't know if you've noticed.
I can appreciate the attitude that all government sucks by definition. I really can. However, I get the distinct impression that many Libertarians I have talked to have not really thought this out clearly and rationally, because they tend to let it lead them into a sort of kneejerk anarchism.
And I hate to break it to you, but so many people are waving their lighters in the air, saying, "Libertarians are so cool, dude" simply on the issue of legalized pot that they're making the entire party look like a bunch of stoned-out one-trick ponies whose thoughts aren't much deeper than their bongs.
I realize that, obviously, everyone in the party isn't like that, but it's not doing much for your public image.
"That government is best, which governs least." - Thomas Jefferson
I don't consider myself an anarchist because I believe in limited government, I simply feel that the government needs to follow the Constitution as it's supposed to.
We can't really help who supports us or for what reason, and we're certainly not going to change our beliefs on that basis. We just have to hope that people won't judge us all based on the actions of some.
Well if people are only able to identify us by one issue then I would suggest they do more research.
- Limited government
- Individual liberty
- Non-interventionism
- Free market
Are all important aspects to being Libertarian.
Yes, well, you've also just explained why the Libertarian Party is having so much trouble gaining traction as a national party. You "suggest THEY do more research". Your public image is YOUR problem, not everyone else's. It's up to YOU to get your message out, not loftily suggest that people find out what your message is.