May the Best Liar Win?

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    I have been studying the reasons why our politicians lie and came across this paper. WHY POLITICIANS LIE

    Here is one of the main points from the conclusions section:
    I tend to agree with much of this paper and would like to hear other’s thoughts about it.
     
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    In a British TV interview, Gordon Brown's spin doctor was asked why politicians lie. His answer? "Politicians don't lie. They just never tell the truth." :eek:
     
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    Yeap , its why Carter had so much trouble, he was not as willing to lie as others
     
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    I think he had other issues that cost him re-election, such as not having good leadership qualities when compared to Reagan. Of course, we are getting off topic.
     
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    That is a good quote. At least the British are honest about their lying.:lol:
     
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    Lol! The majority of British politicians were shown to be both cheats and liars earlier this year in a newspaper expose on how they were blatantly cheating on their expenses. And these were big time abuses amounting to millions of pounds! Personally, I believe politicians are the same the world over. In it for themselves. They see politics as a way to feed their desire for power, whilst enabling them to feather their nests at the same time. The electorate is simply their 'means to an end'.
     
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    Yep, and it was bipartisan! LOL. Funny stuff.
     
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    Wow, do you have a link to the newspaper expose? I completely agree with you about politicians being the same throughout the world. Why do you think American politicians seem to be considered more corrupt, though?
     
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    To summarize he article in one sentence the author basically says that democracy is inviable for large groups.

    Our own democracy was forged when there were only a few million people in the nation, only a small % of which were allowed to participate. And yet the birth of our nation looked a lot like the political/sectarian gridlock in Iraq today.

    A constitution was eventually ratified, after 8 year(?), but the divisions that existed at that point later expressed themselves in a civil war. And largely still express themselves in the red state/blue state rifts of today.

    It doesn't really matter tho, when democracy fails it still functions in roughly the same way that top down (party) and authoritarian governments do.

    We are in the phase where all of our allusions to our own democracy are pretense. But the trains still run on time.
     

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