Massive coral bleaching, hot oceans. GOP- "must protect pollution"

[rdean]

That's because Republican Science says it's God's will.

 

[francoHFW]

Enough of the Flat Earth Society for today...

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[westwall]

Yup, Keys and Caribbean and the rest of the world's coral is fine. SHYTTEHEADS. lol Keep the hater dupe blinders on.

And here we go with the typical sniveling, whining post that states a position that none of us have taken. You're a pathetic little troll. Grow up and get an education, and then come back and talk to us. This forum is for adults, not whining, snot nosed children.

Retired private school/ university teacher/ businessman, Masters in History (France, World), fluent in 3 languages. You?

PhD in environmental geology from Caltech. Fluent in two (wife is French), conversant in one more. Likewise retired but still have consulting clients on four continents. None of which matters as your post is still a whining sniveling response that I would expect from a snot nosed kid caught with his fingers in the cookie jar.

 

[francoHFW]

Who'd you work for, Exxon? lol. Typical "well educated" dupe.. Knows everything about geology, medicine, accounting, business, or farming etc, nothing about politics, history, people. Plenty about Pubcrappe, arrogance, and stupid insults.

 

[francoHFW]

A problem with sea urchins in 1983 proves GW doesn't hurt coral? Idiocy. Oceans aren't warming? CHANGE THE CHANNEL. Your scientific knowledge of climate change is Rush Limbaugh infantile.
Global Warming Effects on Ocean Temperature
Climate Hot Map
Global Warming: Early Warning Signs
Warmer oceans put coastal communities at risk, increase infrastructure costs, endanger polar creatures and threaten coral reefs and fisheries. Perhaps most ...
Past measurements may have missed massive ocean ...
news.sciencemag.org/.../past-measurements-may-have-missed-massi...Science
Oct 5, 2014 - Earth's oceans have absorbed more than 90% of the warming caused by greenhouse gases, researchers estimate, with the stored heat ...
Mystery of Ocean Heat Deepens as Climate Changes ...
Science News Articles and Information - Scientific American › ... › Climatewire
Scientific American
Oct 7, 2014 - Better measurements deepen the mystery of global warming heat stored in the oceans.
The Oceans Warmed up Sharply in 2013 - Skeptical Science
www.skepticalscience.com/The-Oceans-Warmed-up-Shar...Skeptical Science
Jan 31, 2014 - In 2013 ocean warming rapidly escalated, rising to a rate in excess of 12 Hiroshima bombs per second - over three times the recent trend.

 

[Iceweasel]

Yup, Keys and Caribbean and the rest of the world's coral is fine. SHYTTEHEADS. lol Keep the hater dupe blinders on.

You do get a bit defensive when confronted with facts. That's typical of someone that wants to preserve a belief above all else.

 

[Iceweasel]

Retired private school/ university teacher/ businessman, Masters in History (France, World), fluent in 3 languages.

None of that means that you are right, only educated in what was taught to you.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yup, Keys and Caribbean and the rest of the world's coral is fine. SHYTTEHEADS. lol Keep the hater dupe blinders on.

And here we go with the typical sniveling, whining post that states a position that none of us have taken. You're a pathetic little troll. Grow up and get an education, and then come back and talk to us. This forum is for adults, not whining, snot nosed children.

Retired private school/ university teacher/ businessman, Masters in History (France, World), fluent in 3 languages. You?

PhD in environmental geology from Caltech. Fluent in two (wife is French), conversant in one more. Likewise retired but still have consulting clients on four continents. None of which matters as your post is still a whining sniveling response that I would expect from a snot nosed kid caught with his fingers in the cookie jar.

So you claim. Yet you just happen to disagree with almost everybody in both the Geological Society of America and the American Geophyisical Union. And when linking for support, you site WUWT far more often than the peer reviewed journals of either organization.

 

[Old Rocks]

NOAAgate: how ‘ocean acidification’ could turn out to be the biggest con since Michael Mann’s Hockey Stick
Sabine replied that it was inappropriate for Wallace to impugn the “motives or quality of our science” and warned that if he continued in this manner “you will not last long in your career.” Having provided Wallace with a few links – all of which turned out to be useless – he concluded his email by saying “I hope you will refrain from contacting me again.”

This response, again, calls to mind the behaviour of Michael Mann in response to queries from Steve McIntyre about where to find the raw data for his Hockey Stick. Mann was similarly obfuscatory, rude and dismissive.

Undeterred, Wallace eventually got hold of the instrumental records which Feely and Sabine had chosen to exclude from their graph of doom and plotted a time series chart of his own, covering the period from 1910 to the present.

His results were surprising. What they suggest is that global acidification is a figment of Feely’s and Sabine’s imagination: there has been NO reduction in oceanic pH levels in the last century. NOAAgate how ocean acidification could turn out to be the biggest con since Michael Mann s Hockey Stick - Breitbart

Silly ass. Why don't you quote the Weekly Globe? Same amount of credibility. Had the ass had real evidence, he would have published in a peer reviewed journal.

 

[francoHFW]

The oceans turning into a hot soup also affects the whole sea urchin/parrotfish/algae etc etc etc problem. The whole urchin saga, not just 1983,, is very interesting and a factor, but protecting polluters is always a bad idea, as is ignoring obvious effects of high CO2 on temperatures, both in the air and water. See, I listen, research and learn. This a very seldom occurrence dealing with dupes, but your lack of same even on this subject is evident.

 

[francoHFW]

Yup, Keys and Caribbean and the rest of the world's coral is fine. SHYTTEHEADS. lol Keep the hater dupe blinders on.

You do get a bit defensive when confronted with facts. That's typical of someone that wants to preserve a belief above all else.

99% of Pub facts are bs propaganda. In this case, Westwall's incomplete understanding of the sea urchin die off of 1983 led to an interesting, true factor, but his saying it proved GW had nothing to do with it, or his belief that the oceans aren't warming are wrong.

 

[Iceweasel]

99% of Pub facts are bs propaganda. In this case, Westwall's incomplete understanding of the sea urchin die off of 1983 led to an interesting, true factor, but his saying it proved GW had nothing to do with it, or his belief that the oceans aren't warming are wrong.

I don't know what a Pub is, around here they serve beer in taverns. Your dismissal is typical of the left, truth by authority. Oceans warm and oceans cool, just like the rest of the planet. Can you prove that man made ocean warming is killing the coral? Yes or no? Go read a book isn't an answer.

 

[Old Rocks]

99% of Pub facts are bs propaganda. In this case, Westwall's incomplete understanding of the sea urchin die off of 1983 led to an interesting, true factor, but his saying it proved GW had nothing to do with it, or his belief that the oceans aren't warming are wrong.

I don't know what a Pub is, around here they serve beer in taverns. Your dismissal is typical of the left, truth by authority. Oceans warm and oceans cool, just like the rest of the planet. Can you prove that man made ocean warming is killing the coral? Yes or no? Go read a book isn't an answer.

Yes.

 

[Iceweasel]

Yes.

Yes, you can't prove it. Tell us something we didn't know.

 

[francoHFW]

It's called a scientific theory, which is as close to FACT as scientists will get on climate, which propagandists seize upon to fool the chumps. The only scientists who disagree are paid by Big Oil, the Kochs, or Fox etc. duh.

 

[westwall]

Who'd you work for, Exxon? lol. Typical "well educated" dupe.. Knows everything about geology, medicine, accounting, business, or farming etc, nothing about politics, history, people. Plenty about Pubcrappe, arrogance, and stupid insults.

No, I worked for BP Australia for two years then got the gig I had been waiting for at Dames & Moore. Yes I am very well educated. Far better than you will ever be. And you resent the hell out of that don't you. Yet more proof of your juvenile outlook on life.

 

[westwall]

A problem with sea urchins in 1983 proves GW doesn't hurt coral? Idiocy. Oceans aren't warming? CHANGE THE CHANNEL. Your scientific knowledge of climate change is Rush Limbaugh infantile.
Global Warming Effects on Ocean Temperature
Climate Hot Map
Global Warming: Early Warning Signs
Warmer oceans put coastal communities at risk, increase infrastructure costs, endanger polar creatures and threaten coral reefs and fisheries. Perhaps most ...
Past measurements may have missed massive ocean ...
news.sciencemag.org/.../past-measurements-may-have-missed-massi...Science
Oct 5, 2014 - Earth's oceans have absorbed more than 90% of the warming caused by greenhouse gases, researchers estimate, with the stored heat ...
Mystery of Ocean Heat Deepens as Climate Changes ...
Science News Articles and Information - Scientific American › ... › Climatewire
Scientific American
Oct 7, 2014 - Better measurements deepen the mystery of global warming heat stored in the oceans.
The Oceans Warmed up Sharply in 2013 - Skeptical Science
www.skepticalscience.com/The-Oceans-Warmed-up-Shar...Skeptical Science
Jan 31, 2014 - In 2013 ocean warming rapidly escalated, rising to a rate in excess of 12 Hiroshima bombs per second - over three times the recent trend.

The sea urchin problem is THE PROVABLE CAUSE for what is happening to the corals in the Caribbean. There is no "consensus" needed, because it is not a political issue, it is a biological one. That means it is a fact. Scientists run for "consensus" when they don't have a pot to piss in and need to baffle the incompetent with bullshit. And you fall for it every time. Talk about a bot, you have no source material other than the shit spewed out by that comic book editor.

 

[westwall]

Yup, Keys and Caribbean and the rest of the world's coral is fine. SHYTTEHEADS. lol Keep the hater dupe blinders on.

And here we go with the typical sniveling, whining post that states a position that none of us have taken. You're a pathetic little troll. Grow up and get an education, and then come back and talk to us. This forum is for adults, not whining, snot nosed children.

Retired private school/ university teacher/ businessman, Masters in History (France, World), fluent in 3 languages. You?

PhD in environmental geology from Caltech. Fluent in two (wife is French), conversant in one more. Likewise retired but still have consulting clients on four continents. None of which matters as your post is still a whining sniveling response that I would expect from a snot nosed kid caught with his fingers in the cookie jar.

So you claim. Yet you just happen to disagree with almost everybody in both the Geological Society of America and the American Geophyisical Union. And when linking for support, you site WUWT far more often than the peer reviewed journals of either organization.

That's because I am a good scientist who's livelihood isn't based on bullshit and getting the taxpayer to pay for my lazy ass to fly around and baffle people with bullshit.

 

[westwall]

The oceans turning into a hot soup also affects the whole sea urchin/parrotfish/algae etc etc etc problem. The whole urchin saga, not just 1983,, is very interesting and a factor, but protecting polluters is always a bad idea, as is ignoring obvious effects of high CO2 on temperatures, both in the air and water. See, I listen, research and learn. This a very seldom occurrence dealing with dupes, but your lack of same even on this subject is evident.

Where have we ever said that polluters should be protected? Hmmm? Where? Yet more juvenile lying to present a stance that we have never taken. Really dude, you need to grow up.

 

[westwall]

Yup, Keys and Caribbean and the rest of the world's coral is fine. SHYTTEHEADS. lol Keep the hater dupe blinders on.

You do get a bit defensive when confronted with facts. That's typical of someone that wants to preserve a belief above all else.

99% of Pub facts are bs propaganda. In this case, Westwall's incomplete understanding of the sea urchin die off of 1983 led to an interesting, true factor, but his saying it proved GW had nothing to do with it, or his belief that the oceans aren't warming are wrong.

Well, that means that at least 1% of what we present is factual, unlike your bullshit.