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[Mr.Nick]

A Massachusetts law professor has created a campus firestorm with an email to colleagues that declares it would be "shameful" to send care packages to U.S. troops "who have gone overseas to kill other human beings."
Michael Avery, a professor at Suffolk University Law School, sent a five-paragraph email to colleagues in response to a school-wide appeal for care packages for deployed soldiers, Fox affiliate WFXT-TV reports.
"I think it is shameful that it is perceived as legitimate to solicit in an academic institution for support for men and women who have gone overseas to kill other human beings," Avery wrote.


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He should go fuck himself.

Shame is a powerful word with the ows losers ....

 

[likeabird03]

These are the kind of people educating our youth - no wonder Obama got elected, and we're drifting towards a socialist state. I hope this ivory tower collapses because hacks like this guy won't survive one day trying to make it in the real world.

It seems these vacuous laments and empty ad hominem nonsense is all you right-wing onanists are capable of. Not a substantive thought from the lot of you. Just insults and oblique, pointless, partisan references.

Inasmuch as this is a discussion forum, not a schoolyard, how about telling us what you're upset about and what you disagree with. Think you can do that like an intelligent grown-up?

Suggestion: Considering the present condition of American society, the potential economic collapse and the reason for it, why do you suppose drifting in the direction of socialism is a bad thing? What is it about socialist policies that worries you so? Are you among the One Percent? Or have Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly taken control of what once was a middle class mind?

Back on topic, what this "professor" in the article said was vile. Whether you agree with our wars overseas or our reasons for being there, you cannot contest that our brave troops have sacrificed so much, and sometimes with their lives. Challenge the govt policies, the decisions that got us bogged down in Iraq, but don't target "care packages" to the troops. This guy was making a cheap shot, to those who were least deserving of it, and in a way to give publicity to his pathetic self.

 

[marcell]

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Oh yeah, Al Qaeda is one enemy. Right. Have u asked yourself about the reason why Al Qaeda became an enemy? They're enemies just because they don't like americans? And about the terrorist stuff... well, yeah, it's sad to see that there are terrorists. But terrorists are people that kills the innocent civil population. Well, you tell they're terrorists, they say that USA are terrorists. If you think twice, both are right and both are wrong. They go there and kill some civilians, then USA goes there and kills some civilians too... Wouldn't it be better to stop, so there would be no more terrorists?

USA will only have problems with Russia if the gov keep troops and install radars on east Europe (Dimitri Medvedev, with Sergey Lavrov, already warned... no one paid attention, so they went to Georgia - 1 day war)

With China... well I think the main dispute with China is commercial. USA needs to invest more in technology and social stability, than in wars (I mean MUCH more).

About North Korea, well, if USA leaves North Korea alone, they won't do anything. They barely have resources to invest on their people. But their army is big and they have nuclear weapons. It's just not to mess with them.

And Iran... Iran is much more a problem to Israel. They can't fight a war against USA.

Venezuela... pfffff... I've been there. They have barracks all over the country. But they're not a risk.

USA can deal with all these enemies, without a shot. The gov can spare the lives of the soldiers and the lives of thousands of civilians, victims of the war. I remembered a video, where an american helicopter shot a car with children and a hurt man, that was being rescued. An american soldier could not deal with this and went there to rescue everyone. He was punished... don't u think that the people there will hate even to hear "USA"?

About my education... it's good, thank you for worrying about it. Now try to speak to someone that is not from USA or England. Try some pakistani, hindu... an egyptian, maybe. They are people, just like you.

What an arrogant, ignorant, presumptuous little lame brain you are. You very probably don't appreciate just how lucky you are that a dope like you has the luxury of depending upon your betters to assure your security and protect your freedom to spew utter nonsense like that above.

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I don't think I understood it well. Freedom guaranteed by war? Maybe I understood it wrong. Correct me if I did. Vietnam Helped on USA's freedom? Iraq and Afghanistan helped on USA's freedom? Did any nation (since the WW 2) attacked the american territory? The answer is NO. Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan: 3 wars that no one understands. Going out of USA and killing people, to get territories, oil or military access... does it guarantee freedom for anyone? Well, we can tell tha it guarantees disgraces for local populations.

So, you are:

A) Ignorant
B) Stupid
C) Myopic

So you got that goin' for ya.



Why don't you take a trip to MA, find that asswipe professor and rent a nice room where the two of you can watch while you each fuck yourselves.

Ok, go there, die in Iraq. You can go there, kill many people and tell them you are defending your freedom! Yeah! You're defending your freedom from peasants that barely can get food and are more than 5000 miles away. Yeah, you're a genious! USA, vote for him! Vote for people like this one, but don't complain about the wars they'll start later. Don't complain about son or daughter lost wherever they were sent.

What do u have in your brain? Do u have one? Does it work propperly? You don't need a war to be safe. It's the opposite. Ohh yeah, I forgot, middle east people has wings, so that they can fly to USA and fire bazookas in any house or building. Be careful, some of them are strong and can carry missiles. Who knows what more?

A) You don't make analysis of anything
B) You don't follow the USA constitution ideas
C) Brain Washed
D) Didn't study

Founding father must be outraged in their tumbs. Who would imagine that the "Land of the freedom" would have people supporting violence, oppression and ignorance! You're still in the middle age. If you're satisfied with USA spending a trillion dollars, to send people kill people, and die too, then situation must be very good, that the gov don't need to invest money in the economy. Oh, I forgot... the flying iraqians...

 

[marcell]

These are the kind of people educating our youth - no wonder Obama got elected, and we're drifting towards a socialist state. I hope this ivory tower collapses because hacks like this guy won't survive one day trying to make it in the real world.

It seems these vacuous laments and empty ad hominem nonsense is all you right-wing onanists are capable of. Not a substantive thought from the lot of you. Just insults and oblique, pointless, partisan references.

Inasmuch as this is a discussion forum, not a schoolyard, how about telling us what you're upset about and what you disagree with. Think you can do that like an intelligent grown-up?

Suggestion: Considering the present condition of American society, the potential economic collapse and the reason for it, why do you suppose drifting in the direction of socialism is a bad thing? What is it about socialist policies that worries you so? Are you among the One Percent? Or have Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly taken control of what once was a middle class mind?

Back on topic, what this "professor" in the article said was vile. Whether you agree with our wars overseas or our reasons for being there, you cannot contest that our brave troops have sacrificed so much, and sometimes with their lives. Challenge the govt policies, the decisions that got us bogged down in Iraq, but don't target "care packages" to the troops. This guy was making a cheap shot, to those who were least deserving of it, and in a way to give publicity to his pathetic self.

Yeah, the gov should give them this packages. They can spend so much on machines... they sould invest on the soldiers too. But I think that someone should think about the population that suffers with the war. So everyone can be "better".

 

[Unkotare]

Ok, go there, die in Iraq. You can go there, kill many people and tell them you are defending your freedom! Yeah! You're defending your freedom from peasants that barely can get food and are more than 5000 miles away. Yeah, you're a genious! USA, vote for him!...

You ignorant little prick. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about and you lack the character and awareness to be grateful that your ignorant little ass is sheltered from the real world by those immeasurably your betters.

 

[The Gadfly]

Are you that fucking stupid? Spend less time finding women pics on the internet to jack off on and educate yourself.

Let's see, the enemies out there are....Al Qaeda among numerous islamic terrorist groups from Africa to Asia, North Korea, China, Iran, and Russia. Venezuela is an enemy from their antics, but they are like you making threats to people on the playground, just a big-mouth but with less money than them.

Yeah, I know, the bigger the country is, a better army is needed. But this is the question: Who is the enemy?

About the women pics... is it about my avatar? If it is, this is not an internet girl. This is a "prefesional". If it is about the pic I posted before... so I ask you: Are u fucking stupid? Take a look again. It's a trick.

Oh yeah, Al Qaeda is one enemy. Right. Have u asked yourself about the reason why Al Qaeda became an enemy? They're enemies just because they don't like americans? And about the terrorist stuff... well, yeah, it's sad to see that there are terrorists. But terrorists are people that kills the innocent civil population. Well, you tell they're terrorists, they say that USA are terrorists. If you think twice, both are right and both are wrong. They go there and kill some civilians, then USA goes there and kills some civilians too... Wouldn't it be better to stop, so there would be no more terrorists?

USA will only have problems with Russia if the gov keep troops and install radars on east Europe (Dimitri Medvedev, with Sergey Lavrov, already warned... no one paid attention, so they went to Georgia - 1 day war)

With China... well I think the main dispute with China is commercial. USA needs to invest more in technology and social stability, than in wars (I mean MUCH more).

About North Korea, well, if USA leaves North Korea alone, they won't do anything. They barely have resources to invest on their people. But their army is big and they have nuclear weapons. It's just not to mess with them.

And Iran... Iran is much more a problem to Israel. They can't fight a war against USA.

Venezuela... pfffff... I've been there. They have barracks all over the country. But they're not a risk.

USA can deal with all these enemies, without a shot. The gov can spare the lives of the soldiers and the lives of thousands of civilians, victims of the war. I remembered a video, where an american helicopter shot a car with children and a hurt man, that was being rescued. An american soldier could not deal with this and went there to rescue everyone. He was punished... don't u think that the people there will hate even to hear "USA"?

About my education... it's good, thank you for worrying about it. Now try to speak to someone that is not from USA or England. Try some pakistani, hindu... an egyptian, maybe. They are people, just like you.

Ah, what we have here ladies and gentlemen, is a fine example of the thought process (such as it is) of modern European socialist youth; this example, if I am to judge by the peculiar English diction used, is most likely French. Let me address it.

Little child,I should not have to point out that the mountaintop from which you condescend to lecture America, and the freedom you have to do so, only exists because of the sacrifice of tens of thousands of the very American soldiers you despise, and the unparalleled generosity of the American people; otherwise you would be speaking German, or perhaps Russian, from a heap of rubble. You know this, hence that air of superiority so characteristic of an inferiority complex. Kindly do not lecture us on how to defend OUR nation; had YOUR nation been competent enough, vigilant enough, and most of all, willing enough, to do so itself, WE would not have had to bail you out of impending defeats in two great wars. Your attention is invited to, among other places, the American cemetery at St. Lo. where you may count a portion of the cost to America of YOUR liberty as well as our own. While you walk among those rows of white stone, you may contemplate just how "evil" and "selfish" the gift they gave to your nation, and to the world, really was. You might also note, that for years after that we stood guard over Europe and the rest of the world, against Soviet expansionism, until that Empire of Evil destroyed itself. American troops were your shield, as well as our own. I know; I served then.

I am an American who puts himself where his mouth and his beliefs are. When my country ordered me to Vietnam, I went; not because I like killing people, but because I believed (and I still believe) that the people of South Vietnam should be protected from communist aggression from North Vietnam. Some of the worst memories I have, are of the atrocities I saw committed against innocent South Vietnamese civilians by the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army. Of that, I can only say that had you seen the horrors I saw perpetrated by our enemy, you would understand what I and my fellow Americans were fighting to prevent. America's soldiers are NOT allowed to murder, torture or abuse the innocent (the shameful few who do such things are tried convicted and sentenced to long terms of imprisonment).

Today, we are fighting a terrorist enemy who attacked us on our own soil. We will not rest, we will not waver, and we will not stop, until that enemy is finally crushed, and defeated to the point that it can never perpetrate such an act again. We did not start this war, we did not seek this conflict, but once it was brought to our shores, we are determined to finish it, and this, we will do. I am now far too old to ever serve in battle again, but if I were not, I would be right there fighting today; not because I love war (any sane man who ever fought a war hates it) but because, as terrible as war is, there is something worse than war-the degraded, cowardly state of those who surrender to evil, because they value nothing enough to fight for it.

 

[marcell]

Are you that fucking stupid? Spend less time finding women pics on the internet to jack off on and educate yourself.

Let's see, the enemies out there are....Al Qaeda among numerous islamic terrorist groups from Africa to Asia, North Korea, China, Iran, and Russia. Venezuela is an enemy from their antics, but they are like you making threats to people on the playground, just a big-mouth but with less money than them.

About the women pics... is it about my avatar? If it is, this is not an internet girl. This is a "prefesional". If it is about the pic I posted before... so I ask you: Are u fucking stupid? Take a look again. It's a trick.

Oh yeah, Al Qaeda is one enemy. Right. Have u asked yourself about the reason why Al Qaeda became an enemy? They're enemies just because they don't like americans? And about the terrorist stuff... well, yeah, it's sad to see that there are terrorists. But terrorists are people that kills the innocent civil population. Well, you tell they're terrorists, they say that USA are terrorists. If you think twice, both are right and both are wrong. They go there and kill some civilians, then USA goes there and kills some civilians too... Wouldn't it be better to stop, so there would be no more terrorists?

USA will only have problems with Russia if the gov keep troops and install radars on east Europe (Dimitri Medvedev, with Sergey Lavrov, already warned... no one paid attention, so they went to Georgia - 1 day war)

With China... well I think the main dispute with China is commercial. USA needs to invest more in technology and social stability, than in wars (I mean MUCH more).

About North Korea, well, if USA leaves North Korea alone, they won't do anything. They barely have resources to invest on their people. But their army is big and they have nuclear weapons. It's just not to mess with them.

And Iran... Iran is much more a problem to Israel. They can't fight a war against USA.

Venezuela... pfffff... I've been there. They have barracks all over the country. But they're not a risk.

USA can deal with all these enemies, without a shot. The gov can spare the lives of the soldiers and the lives of thousands of civilians, victims of the war. I remembered a video, where an american helicopter shot a car with children and a hurt man, that was being rescued. An american soldier could not deal with this and went there to rescue everyone. He was punished... don't u think that the people there will hate even to hear "USA"?

About my education... it's good, thank you for worrying about it. Now try to speak to someone that is not from USA or England. Try some pakistani, hindu... an egyptian, maybe. They are people, just like you.

Ah, what we have here ladies and gentlemen, is a fine example of the thought process (such as it is) of modern European socialist youth; this example, if I am to judge by the peculiar English diction used, is most likely French. Let me address it.

Little child,I should not have to point out that the mountaintop from which you condescend to lecture America, and the freedom you have to do so, only exists because of the sacrifice of tens of thousands of the very American soldiers you despise, and the unparalleled generosity of the American people; otherwise you would be speaking German, or perhaps Russian, from a heap of rubble. You know this, hence that air of superiority so characteristic of an inferiority complex. Kindly do not lecture us on how to defend OUR nation; had YOUR nation been competent enough, vigilant enough, and most of all, willing enough, to do so itself, WE would not have had to bail you out of impending defeats in two great wars. Your attention is invited to, among other places, the American cemetery at St. Lo. where you may count a portion of the cost to America of YOUR liberty as well as our own. While you walk among those rows of white stone, you may contemplate just how "evil" and "selfish" the gift they gave to your nation, and to the world, really was. You might also note, that for years after that we stood guard over Europe and the rest of the world, against Soviet expansionism, until that Empire of Evil destroyed itself. American troops were your shield, as well as our own. I know; I served then.

I am an American who puts himself where his mouth and his beliefs are. When my country ordered me to Vietnam, I went; not because I like killing people, but because I believed (and I still believe) that the people of South Vietnam should be protected from communist aggression from North Vietnam. Some of the worst memories I have, are of the atrocities I saw committed against innocent South Vietnamese civilians by the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army. Of that, I can only say that had you seen the horrors I saw perpetrated by our enemy, you would understand what I and my fellow Americans were fighting to prevent. America's soldiers are NOT allowed to murder, torture or abuse the innocent (the shameful few who do such things are tried convicted and sentenced to long terms of imprisonment).

Today, we are fighting a terrorist enemy who attacked us on our own soil. We will not rest, we will not waver, and we will not stop, until that enemy is finally crushed, and defeated to the point that it can never perpetrate such an act again. We did not start this war, we did not seek this conflict, but once it was brought to our shores, we are determined to finish it, and this, we will do. I am now far too old to ever serve in battle again, but if I were not, I would be right there fighting today; not because I love war (any sane man who ever fought a war hates it) but because, as terrible as war is, there is something worse than war-the degraded, cowardly state of those who surrender to evil, because they value nothing enough to fight for it.

Well, I liked your explanation. It's the best opposite opinion till now. Finally, a grown up. Proud to argue with you, folk! Your experience as a soldier and an USA's citizen is very important to me, to learn many things. But my abroad vision might be very important to you. I'll tell ya why later.

To start, you're wrong, I'm not french/english. My australian friend told me I sound like american. You tell me that by the diction, my english is brititsh. No, wrong. Maybe it's both british/american. Anyway, I'm not french neither. In the true, in the WW 2, my country's false neutrality made germany attack us. Both sides pressing hard (USA and Germany) and a neighbour country wanting to get our territory. So my liberty doesn't have anything with USA. In the true, dictatorships (supported by USA) were problems here. The last war I remember here was between all states vs just one, in 1932. So it was a civil war.

Well, about Europe and the WW 2, I can tell that England and France could not deal alone with Germany. When USA entered the war, all the countries were already destroyed by the war. USA didn't feel the worst of the war. You lost soldiers there, yeah I know. So did we. But we were not affected too. Germany made the same mistake Napoleon did: Russia and its winter. So, the main responsible for the german defeat were the russians and the english. It's just to see how much died in Russia, Germany and England. USA was as great help, because there was not that war exhaustion. Other thing is that USA develloped its industry and made it stronger in these 2 wars, selling manufactured products to the devastated Europe. It's just to remember the 29' crysis. USA produced much, to sell, but there was no more war. Then the stocks were raising fast. People were fired and so, less people to buy what was produced... from this moment on, you know what happens.

About the cold war, well let's say that it depends of the point of view. Russians would think USA is cruel. Americans would think Russia is cruel. So vietnam was pressed by both sides. It was a crime against humanity. If they'd become socialist, it'd be their problem. There would be no need to make a war because of this. In the true they were trying to consolidate their independence from France. Shouldn't USA support it? USA didn't win that war, remember? Even this way, Vietnam is not socialist today. Other stuff: Korea. It was only one, till USA and Soviet Union decided to break it in half and each one got a part of it. USA had South Korea. Soviet Union had North Korea. Isn't it hard to think that USA has the responsability (along with soviet union) of the bloody Korean War?

What was the soviet mistake, that made them fall: corruption and investments on heavy industry, but lack of it in technology and production. They could only fall. Nothing worked propperly. Chernobyl disaster was the fuse to this great fall. But, does it mean that the people was not happy, even under soviet domains? No! It's propaganda, you know. You thing they were sad. They used to think you were sad too. Today we don't need it anymore. We already know that communism won't lead anywhere, just like capitalism, in the way that it is. In communism, if you are unemployed, you may be supported by the government, the main part of the ideas are the worker, but you can't have private properties. In capitalism, you can have as many properties as you can buy, but if you're fired... you're on your own, and the main idea is profit, not the workers. So why don't we measure both? Can u imagine it? I don't know. I think it'd be perfect (or almost).

Ok, let's stop talking about this past. USA Today! Ok... What's the problem now? Terrorists! Well, most of them have some politic cause. If USA keeps itself away from their lands (much of them from middle east and africa, as you said), there will be no more terrorism agains USA. Did u ever see a terrorist group from allies, fight USA? No! Only from the enemies! So, terrorists are more like armies, fighting a war. If there is no war, no invasion, there are no terrorists. No one wants to die in wars. Do u think that they like it?

And about the attack on New York and Bin Laden... well, have you read documents saying that that attack was sefl terrorism? Did u really believe that the army would kill Osama and then just throw his body in the ocean? Bin Laden declared himself innocent and told that apparently someone did that for particular reasons. He was on Paquistan when the attack happened. USA knew it. He was a sick man, he needed to be in the hospital, always. How could he survive so long? News from a newspaper from middle east showed that by the end of 2001, Osama died of his sickness. USA kept him alive, pursed him for years and finally, when found him... threw the body in the sea. Stranger, isn't it? About the pentagon attack, by a Boeing 747-400... well, I saw many videos and pictures and I couldn't see even a piece of the turbines and the fuselage. Even the worst accidents leave pieces of the jet, spread over the place where it happened. The pentagon building had a big whole, but no clue of a whole from the 4 turbines (they are heavier than the command cabin) wholes. Was it really a terrorist attack by plane? What I think about it is that USA's people should be warned about its government.

Spoiler

I like USA's people and think you are wonderful. But the government always starts new problems to you all.

As I said I have nothing against the soldiers. They are as victims as the invaded people. It must stop. USA must have a mighty army, but can't still declaring wars. This is the point, do u understand?

 

[MikeK]

Back on topic, what this "professor" in the article said was vile.

What this professor said is a perfect example of the kind of truth which has brought the wrath of hypocrisy and fanaticism down on the heads of clear thinkers throughout history. What his entire message is about is encapsulated in just one of his sentences: "Excessive patriotic zeal is a hallmark of national security states. It permits, indeed encourages, excesses in the name of national security, as we saw during the Bush administration, and which continue during the Obama administration. . ."

Whether you agree with our wars overseas or our reasons for being there, you cannot contest that our brave troops have sacrificed so much, and sometimes with their lives.

First, the United States is not at war and hasn't been at war since 1945. And if the Vietnam debacle didn't teach you that unprovoked and unnecessary military aggression is lethally and wastefully counterproductive don't you think it's time you started paying attention to people like Professer Avery?

While most of the troops who served in Vietnam were drafted, all of the troops who are fighting and dying in the Middle East volunteered to go there. While I do have sincere sympathy for those National Guardsmen, affectionately known as "weekend warriors" until Bush changed the rules and deployed them in the unnecessary, criminally initiated military aggression he created for purely political purposes, I am aware of no such absolution for those who enlisted in the Army and Marines knowing they probably would be deployed as aggressors in an unlawful invasion and occcupation of a virtually defenseless nation -- not to mention the risk to their own lives and limbs.

Challenge the govt policies, the decisions that got us bogged down in Iraq, but don't target "care packages" to the troops.

If you have a relative or a close friend under arms in the Middle East you would be understandably motivated to send that individual a package of comfort items. That would be a reasonable gesture. But to send a so-called "CARE package" to some anonymous individual who volunteered to participate in what essentially and provably is a war crime is a statement of approval!

What you need to understand is the Iraqi people did absolutely nothing to deserve what we have done to them. And the same thing goes for the vast majority of Afghanis.

The fact that a tiny percentage of Fanatical Islamics hate America does not warrant or justify what we are doing in Afghanistan. We have no right to be there. None of the nineteen shahids who attacked us on 9/11 were either Iraqi or Afghani. Those shadowy, unidentifiable fanatics known as Al Qaeda and Taliban are barely able to afford new sneakers and ammo for their AKs but our government has us convinced they are a threat to us, the wealthiest, most militarily powerful nation on Earth.

You need to realize the kind of thinking that leads to such conclusions as you've expressed here is as categorically fanatical as that of the misguided Islamics who join Al Qaeda and the Taliban. But the main difference between the two categories is those fanatics are defending their homelands against a foreign aggressor. America.

This guy was making a cheap shot, to those who were least deserving of it, and in a way to give publicity to his pathetic self.

Professor Avery has spoken a truth which is long overdue. We need to advise our troops that we do not approve of what they are doing in our names. And sending them gifts is not the way to convey that important message.

 

[Unkotare]

[ We need to advise our troops that we do not approve of what they are doing in our names. And sending them gifts is not the way to convey that important message.

Who is "we" you ungrateful fucking rat?

 

[CaféAuLait]

Back on topic, what this "professor" in the article said was vile.

What this professor said is a perfect example of the kind of truth which has brought the wrath of hypocrisy and fanaticism down on the heads of clear thinkers throughout history. What his entire message is about is encapsulated in just one of his sentences: "Excessive patriotic zeal is a hallmark of national security states. It permits, indeed encourages, excesses in the name of national security, as we saw during the Bush administration, and which continue during the Obama administration. . ."

Whether you agree with our wars overseas or our reasons for being there, you cannot contest that our brave troops have sacrificed so much, and sometimes with their lives.

First, the United States is not at war and hasn't been at war since 1945. And if the Vietnam debacle didn't teach you that unprovoked and unnecessary military aggression is lethally and wastefully counterproductive don't you think it's time you started paying attention to people like Professer Avery?

While most of the troops who served in Vietnam were drafted, all of the troops who are fighting and dying in the Middle East volunteered to go there. While I do have sincere sympathy for those National Guardsmen, affectionately known as "weekend warriors" until Bush changed the rules and deployed them in the unnecessary, criminally initiated military aggression he created for purely political purposes, I am aware of no such absolution for those who enlisted in the Army and Marines knowing they probably would be deployed as aggressors in an unlawful invasion and occcupation of a virtually defenseless nation -- not to mention the risk to their own lives and limbs.

Challenge the govt policies, the decisions that got us bogged down in Iraq, but don't target "care packages" to the troops.

If you have a relative or a close friend under arms in the Middle East you would be understandably motivated to send that individual a package of comfort items. That would be a reasonable gesture. But to send a so-called "CARE package" to some anonymous individual who volunteered to participate in what essentially and provably is a war crime is a statement of approval!

What you need to understand is the Iraqi people did absolutely nothing to deserve what we have done to them. And the same thing goes for the vast majority of Afghanis.

The fact that a tiny percentage of Fanatical Islamics hate America does not warrant or justify what we are doing in Afghanistan. We have no right to be there. None of the nineteen shahids who attacked us on 9/11 were either Iraqi or Afghani. Those shadowy, unidentifiable fanatics known as Al Qaeda and Taliban are barely able to afford new sneakers and ammo for their AKs but our government has us convinced they are a threat to us, the wealthiest, most militarily powerful nation on Earth.

You need to realize the kind of thinking that leads to such conclusions as you've expressed here is as categorically fanatical as that of the misguided Islamics who join Al Qaeda and the Taliban. But the main difference between the two categories is those fanatics are defending their homelands against a foreign aggressor. America.

This guy was making a cheap shot, to those who were least deserving of it, and in a way to give publicity to his pathetic self.

Professor Avery has spoken a truth which is long overdue. We need to advise our troops that we do not approve of what they are doing in our names. And sending them gifts is not the way to convey that important message.

Fuck you, seriously fuck you. I try my hardest to keep a civil tongue on these boards. But tell me how sending the troops sunblock and baby wipes, things that SHOULD already be provided but are not in the manner they should be are gifts to you? Do you think these ‘care’ packages contain big screen TV and iPods?

The professor, who specializes in constitutional law, wrote the email last week in response to a university drive to collect items for U.S. troops, like sunblock and sanitary products

Its a true shame that our soldiers need their families to send kevlar, helmet pads, sunblock, babywipes and shampoo and the like. They should not have to do such.

 

[MikeK]

Fuck you, seriously fuck you. I try my hardest to keep a civil tongue on these boards. But tell me how sending the troops sunblock and baby wipes, things that SHOULD already be provided but are not in the manner they should be are gifts to you? Do you think these ‘care’ packages contain big screen TV and iPods?

I don't care what they contain. They convey a tacit message of approval!

The professor, who specializes in constitutional law, wrote the email last week in response to a university drive to collect items for U.S. troops, like sunblock and sanitary products

Its a true shame that our soldiers need their families to send kevlar, helmet pads, sunblock, babywipes and shampoo and the like. They should not have to do such.

It is truly shameful that so many Americans, like you, are so limited in their ability to reason or have been so thoroughly and effectively brainwashed they are utterly incapable of reaching beyond their one-dimensional perception of our Middle East involvements.

This is not World War Two. Our country is not at war. Your indignation is misdirected. You should be expressing your resentment to the CEOs of the oil industries and those component industries of the Military Industrial Complex who are the beneficiaries what the troops in the Middle East are doing. Because those troops are serving other than the only justifiable purpose of the American military, which is defending America and its people.

I understand there are thousands of Blackwater and Halliburton "contractors" serving under arms in the Middle East. Are you equally sympathetic toward their discomfort? If not, why not?

Try learning how to think in straight lines -- regardless of how uncomfortable the conclusions might be.

 

[Unkotare]

[ Our country is not at war. .

Some of these lefty numbskulls are nihilistically short-sighted and have very selective memory loss.

 

[CaféAuLait]

Fuck you, seriously fuck you. I try my hardest to keep a civil tongue on these boards. But tell me how sending the troops sunblock and baby wipes, things that SHOULD already be provided but are not in the manner they should be are gifts to you? Do you think these ‘care’ packages contain big screen TV and iPods?

I don't care what they contain. They convey a tacit message of approval!

The professor, who specializes in constitutional law, wrote the email last week in response to a university drive to collect items for U.S. troops, like sunblock and sanitary products

Its a true shame that our soldiers need their families to send kevlar, helmet pads, sunblock, babywipes and shampoo and the like. They should not have to do such.

It is truly shameful that so many Americans, like you, are so limited in their ability to reason or have been so thoroughly and effectively brainwashed they are utterly incapable of reaching beyond their one-dimensional perception of our Middle East involvements.

This is not World War Two. Our country is not at war. Your indignation is misdirected. You should be expressing your resentment to the CEOs of the oil industries and those component industries of the Military Industrial Complex who are the beneficiaries what the troops in the Middle East are doing. Because those troops are serving other than the only justifiable purpose of the American military, which is defending America and its people.

I understand there are thousands of Blackwater and Halliburton "contractors" serving under arms in the Middle East. Are you equally sympathetic toward their discomfort? If not, why not?

Try learning how to think in straight lines -- regardless of how uncomfortable the conclusions might be.

How about if I start with the government not supplying our troops what they need to survive first? The fact that so many troops qualify for food stamps. They are doing what they are ordered to do and if they do not they will be imprisoned for not following a command and or going AWOL.

Why don't you, instead of seeing things like 'sunblock and baby wipes' as a gift start to demand the government (that forces men and women to go overseas) have the things they need, instead of Military families being dependant on places like Target or Wal-Mart ( horrible big corporations) donating the items to the families or the USO to send to assure they can bathe and not get a horrible sunburn.

As far as not being at war tell that to the thousands dead and their families.

 

[Toro]

About the women pics... is it about my avatar? If it is, this is not an internet girl. This is a "prefesional". If it is about the pic I posted before... so I ask you: Are u fucking stupid? Take a look again. It's a trick.

Oh yeah, Al Qaeda is one enemy. Right. Have u asked yourself about the reason why Al Qaeda became an enemy? They're enemies just because they don't like americans? And about the terrorist stuff... well, yeah, it's sad to see that there are terrorists. But terrorists are people that kills the innocent civil population. Well, you tell they're terrorists, they say that USA are terrorists. If you think twice, both are right and both are wrong. They go there and kill some civilians, then USA goes there and kills some civilians too... Wouldn't it be better to stop, so there would be no more terrorists?

USA will only have problems with Russia if the gov keep troops and install radars on east Europe (Dimitri Medvedev, with Sergey Lavrov, already warned... no one paid attention, so they went to Georgia - 1 day war)

With China... well I think the main dispute with China is commercial. USA needs to invest more in technology and social stability, than in wars (I mean MUCH more).

About North Korea, well, if USA leaves North Korea alone, they won't do anything. They barely have resources to invest on their people. But their army is big and they have nuclear weapons. It's just not to mess with them.

And Iran... Iran is much more a problem to Israel. They can't fight a war against USA.

Venezuela... pfffff... I've been there. They have barracks all over the country. But they're not a risk.

USA can deal with all these enemies, without a shot. The gov can spare the lives of the soldiers and the lives of thousands of civilians, victims of the war. I remembered a video, where an american helicopter shot a car with children and a hurt man, that was being rescued. An american soldier could not deal with this and went there to rescue everyone. He was punished... don't u think that the people there will hate even to hear "USA"?

About my education... it's good, thank you for worrying about it. Now try to speak to someone that is not from USA or England. Try some pakistani, hindu... an egyptian, maybe. They are people, just like you.

Ah, what we have here ladies and gentlemen, is a fine example of the thought process (such as it is) of modern European socialist youth; this example, if I am to judge by the peculiar English diction used, is most likely French. Let me address it.

Little child,I should not have to point out that the mountaintop from which you condescend to lecture America, and the freedom you have to do so, only exists because of the sacrifice of tens of thousands of the very American soldiers you despise, and the unparalleled generosity of the American people; otherwise you would be speaking German, or perhaps Russian, from a heap of rubble. You know this, hence that air of superiority so characteristic of an inferiority complex. Kindly do not lecture us on how to defend OUR nation; had YOUR nation been competent enough, vigilant enough, and most of all, willing enough, to do so itself, WE would not have had to bail you out of impending defeats in two great wars. Your attention is invited to, among other places, the American cemetery at St. Lo. where you may count a portion of the cost to America of YOUR liberty as well as our own. While you walk among those rows of white stone, you may contemplate just how "evil" and "selfish" the gift they gave to your nation, and to the world, really was. You might also note, that for years after that we stood guard over Europe and the rest of the world, against Soviet expansionism, until that Empire of Evil destroyed itself. American troops were your shield, as well as our own. I know; I served then.

I am an American who puts himself where his mouth and his beliefs are. When my country ordered me to Vietnam, I went; not because I like killing people, but because I believed (and I still believe) that the people of South Vietnam should be protected from communist aggression from North Vietnam. Some of the worst memories I have, are of the atrocities I saw committed against innocent South Vietnamese civilians by the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army. Of that, I can only say that had you seen the horrors I saw perpetrated by our enemy, you would understand what I and my fellow Americans were fighting to prevent. America's soldiers are NOT allowed to murder, torture or abuse the innocent (the shameful few who do such things are tried convicted and sentenced to long terms of imprisonment).

Today, we are fighting a terrorist enemy who attacked us on our own soil. We will not rest, we will not waver, and we will not stop, until that enemy is finally crushed, and defeated to the point that it can never perpetrate such an act again. We did not start this war, we did not seek this conflict, but once it was brought to our shores, we are determined to finish it, and this, we will do. I am now far too old to ever serve in battle again, but if I were not, I would be right there fighting today; not because I love war (any sane man who ever fought a war hates it) but because, as terrible as war is, there is something worse than war-the degraded, cowardly state of those who surrender to evil, because they value nothing enough to fight for it.

Well, I liked your explanation. It's the best opposite opinion till now. Finally, a grown up. Proud to argue with you, folk! Your experience as a soldier and an USA's citizen is very important to me, to learn many things. But my abroad vision might be very important to you. I'll tell ya why later.

To start, you're wrong, I'm not french/english. My australian friend told me I sound like american. You tell me that by the diction, my english is brititsh. No, wrong. Maybe it's both british/american. Anyway, I'm not french neither. In the true, in the WW 2, my country's false neutrality made germany attack us. Both sides pressing hard (USA and Germany) and a neighbour country wanting to get our territory. So my liberty doesn't have anything with USA. In the true, dictatorships (supported by USA) were problems here. The last war I remember here was between all states vs just one, in 1932. So it was a civil war.

Well, about Europe and the WW 2, I can tell that England and France could not deal alone with Germany. When USA entered the war, all the countries were already destroyed by the war. USA didn't feel the worst of the war. You lost soldiers there, yeah I know. So did we. But we were not affected too. Germany made the same mistake Napoleon did: Russia and its winter. So, the main responsible for the german defeat were the russians and the english. It's just to see how much died in Russia, Germany and England. USA was as great help, because there was not that war exhaustion. Other thing is that USA develloped its industry and made it stronger in these 2 wars, selling manufactured products to the devastated Europe. It's just to remember the 29' crysis. USA produced much, to sell, but there was no more war. Then the stocks were raising fast. People were fired and so, less people to buy what was produced... from this moment on, you know what happens.

About the cold war, well let's say that it depends of the point of view. Russians would think USA is cruel. Americans would think Russia is cruel. So vietnam was pressed by both sides. It was a crime against humanity. If they'd become socialist, it'd be their problem. There would be no need to make a war because of this. In the true they were trying to consolidate their independence from France. Shouldn't USA support it? USA didn't win that war, remember? Even this way, Vietnam is not socialist today. Other stuff: Korea. It was only one, till USA and Soviet Union decided to break it in half and each one got a part of it. USA had South Korea. Soviet Union had North Korea. Isn't it hard to think that USA has the responsability (along with soviet union) of the bloody Korean War?

What was the soviet mistake, that made them fall: corruption and investments on heavy industry, but lack of it in technology and production. They could only fall. Nothing worked propperly. Chernobyl disaster was the fuse to this great fall. But, does it mean that the people was not happy, even under soviet domains? No! It's propaganda, you know. You thing they were sad. They used to think you were sad too. Today we don't need it anymore. We already know that communism won't lead anywhere, just like capitalism, in the way that it is. In communism, if you are unemployed, you may be supported by the government, the main part of the ideas are the worker, but you can't have private properties. In capitalism, you can have as many properties as you can buy, but if you're fired... you're on your own, and the main idea is profit, not the workers. So why don't we measure both? Can u imagine it? I don't know. I think it'd be perfect (or almost).

Ok, let's stop talking about this past. USA Today! Ok... What's the problem now? Terrorists! Well, most of them have some politic cause. If USA keeps itself away from their lands (much of them from middle east and africa, as you said), there will be no more terrorism agains USA. Did u ever see a terrorist group from allies, fight USA? No! Only from the enemies! So, terrorists are more like armies, fighting a war. If there is no war, no invasion, there are no terrorists. No one wants to die in wars. Do u think that they like it?

And about the attack on New York and Bin Laden... well, have you read documents saying that that attack was sefl terrorism? Did u really believe that the army would kill Osama and then just throw his body in the ocean? Bin Laden declared himself innocent and told that apparently someone did that for particular reasons. He was on Paquistan when the attack happened. USA knew it. He was a sick man, he needed to be in the hospital, always. How could he survive so long? News from a newspaper from middle east showed that by the end of 2001, Osama died of his sickness. USA kept him alive, pursed him for years and finally, when found him... threw the body in the sea. Stranger, isn't it? About the pentagon attack, by a Boeing 747-400... well, I saw many videos and pictures and I couldn't see even a piece of the turbines and the fuselage. Even the worst accidents leave pieces of the jet, spread over the place where it happened. The pentagon building had a big whole, but no clue of a whole from the 4 turbines (they are heavier than the command cabin) wholes. Was it really a terrorist attack by plane? What I think about it is that USA's people should be warned about its government.

Spoiler

I like USA's people and think you are wonderful. But the government always starts new problems to you all.

As I said I have nothing against the soldiers. They are as victims as the invaded people. It must stop. USA must have a mighty army, but can't still declaring wars. This is the point, do u understand?

We understand that you're a 9/11 twoofer nutter.

 

[del]

Back on topic, what this "professor" in the article said was vile.

What this professor said is a perfect example of the kind of truth which has brought the wrath of hypocrisy and fanaticism down on the heads of clear thinkers throughout history. What his entire message is about is encapsulated in just one of his sentences: "Excessive patriotic zeal is a hallmark of national security states. It permits, indeed encourages, excesses in the name of national security, as we saw during the Bush administration, and which continue during the Obama administration. . ."

Whether you agree with our wars overseas or our reasons for being there, you cannot contest that our brave troops have sacrificed so much, and sometimes with their lives.

First, the United States is not at war and hasn't been at war since 1945. And if the Vietnam debacle didn't teach you that unprovoked and unnecessary military aggression is lethally and wastefully counterproductive don't you think it's time you started paying attention to people like Professer Avery?

While most of the troops who served in Vietnam were drafted, all of the troops who are fighting and dying in the Middle East volunteered to go there. While I do have sincere sympathy for those National Guardsmen, affectionately known as "weekend warriors" until Bush changed the rules and deployed them in the unnecessary, criminally initiated military aggression he created for purely political purposes, I am aware of no such absolution for those who enlisted in the Army and Marines knowing they probably would be deployed as aggressors in an unlawful invasion and occcupation of a virtually defenseless nation -- not to mention the risk to their own lives and limbs.

Challenge the govt policies, the decisions that got us bogged down in Iraq, but don't target "care packages" to the troops.

If you have a relative or a close friend under arms in the Middle East you would be understandably motivated to send that individual a package of comfort items. That would be a reasonable gesture. But to send a so-called "CARE package" to some anonymous individual who volunteered to participate in what essentially and provably is a war crime is a statement of approval!

What you need to understand is the Iraqi people did absolutely nothing to deserve what we have done to them. And the same thing goes for the vast majority of Afghanis.

The fact that a tiny percentage of Fanatical Islamics hate America does not warrant or justify what we are doing in Afghanistan. We have no right to be there. None of the nineteen shahids who attacked us on 9/11 were either Iraqi or Afghani. Those shadowy, unidentifiable fanatics known as Al Qaeda and Taliban are barely able to afford new sneakers and ammo for their AKs but our government has us convinced they are a threat to us, the wealthiest, most militarily powerful nation on Earth.

You need to realize the kind of thinking that leads to such conclusions as you've expressed here is as categorically fanatical as that of the misguided Islamics who join Al Qaeda and the Taliban. But the main difference between the two categories is those fanatics are defending their homelands against a foreign aggressor. America.

This guy was making a cheap shot, to those who were least deserving of it, and in a way to give publicity to his pathetic self.

Professor Avery has spoken a truth which is long overdue. We need to advise our troops that we do not approve of what they are doing in our names. And sending them gifts is not the way to convey that important message.

 

[The Gadfly]

Back on topic, what this "professor" in the article said was vile.

What this professor said is a perfect example of the kind of truth which has brought the wrath of hypocrisy and fanaticism down on the heads of clear thinkers throughout history. What his entire message is about is encapsulated in just one of his sentences: "Excessive patriotic zeal is a hallmark of national security states. It permits, indeed encourages, excesses in the name of national security, as we saw during the Bush administration, and which continue during the Obama administration. . ."

Whether you agree with our wars overseas or our reasons for being there, you cannot contest that our brave troops have sacrificed so much, and sometimes with their lives.

First, the United States is not at war and hasn't been at war since 1945. And if the Vietnam debacle didn't teach you that unprovoked and unnecessary military aggression is lethally and wastefully counterproductive don't you think it's time you started paying attention to people like Professer Avery?

While most of the troops who served in Vietnam were drafted, all of the troops who are fighting and dying in the Middle East volunteered to go there. While I do have sincere sympathy for those National Guardsmen, affectionately known as "weekend warriors" until Bush changed the rules and deployed them in the unnecessary, criminally initiated military aggression he created for purely political purposes, I am aware of no such absolution for those who enlisted in the Army and Marines knowing they probably would be deployed as aggressors in an unlawful invasion and occcupation of a virtually defenseless nation -- not to mention the risk to their own lives and limbs.

Challenge the govt policies, the decisions that got us bogged down in Iraq, but don't target "care packages" to the troops.

If you have a relative or a close friend under arms in the Middle East you would be understandably motivated to send that individual a package of comfort items. That would be a reasonable gesture. But to send a so-called "CARE package" to some anonymous individual who volunteered to participate in what essentially and provably is a war crime is a statement of approval!

What you need to understand is the Iraqi people did absolutely nothing to deserve what we have done to them. And the same thing goes for the vast majority of Afghanis.

The fact that a tiny percentage of Fanatical Islamics hate America does not warrant or justify what we are doing in Afghanistan. We have no right to be there. None of the nineteen shahids who attacked us on 9/11 were either Iraqi or Afghani. Those shadowy, unidentifiable fanatics known as Al Qaeda and Taliban are barely able to afford new sneakers and ammo for their AKs but our government has us convinced they are a threat to us, the wealthiest, most militarily powerful nation on Earth.

You need to realize the kind of thinking that leads to such conclusions as you've expressed here is as categorically fanatical as that of the misguided Islamics who join Al Qaeda and the Taliban. But the main difference between the two categories is those fanatics are defending their homelands against a foreign aggressor. America.

This guy was making a cheap shot, to those who were least deserving of it, and in a way to give publicity to his pathetic self.

Professor Avery has spoken a truth which is long overdue. We need to advise our troops that we do not approve of what they are doing in our names. And sending them gifts is not the way to convey that important message.

We? Just who the hell is "we", Mike? Certainly NOT the majority of the American people! What orders our troops follow, and what wars they are deployed to fight, is NOT your call, as you are not in either their civilian or military chain of command. These troops you and professor Avery so despise, happen to be MY brothers and sisters in arms, and they will remain so, wherever they are deployed, regardless of who their Commander -in-Chief is, and whether I agree with the particular conflict in question, or not.

Accordingly, not one of them has any reason to give a rat's ass what you or professor Avery think, any more than I had any reason to give a rat's ass when I was in Vietnam what you or any other civilian outside the chain of command thought about what we were doing there. I did not care what you thought then; I do not care now. Your opinion on the matter is duly noted, assigned the weight I believe it deserves (a flyspeck on my desk is a more serious matter), and consigned to the trashcan, where it belongs!

You can take the semantic niceties of what is or is not a "war" and shove them. You know, I believe you once took an oath as a Marine, one substantially identical to the one I took, and the one these troops take today. There is nothing in that oath which allows you or anyone else any "right" to refuse orders or deployment because you personally think a given war is "illegal", "immoral" or both. There is nothing in regulations or the UCMJ which allows that either, and you damn well know that. You also know what the military courts do with barracks lawyers who think they can violate the rules. Attention is invited to the sections of the UCMJ dealing with the subjects of "disobedience of lawful orders" and "mutiny". I suggest you re-read same.

Now that we have dispensed with that nonsense, I note, with some amusement, your apparent willingness to grant some sort of "absolution" to those of us "imperialist aggressors" somehow "forced" to serve under duress. Really? Well, how magnanimous of you Leftist loons; now tell me, just who died and made any of you Pope? Which one of you am I supposed to bow before and call "Your Holiness"? Whose ring shall I kiss, huh? Sorry, but I think I'll pass, I'm not a member of the Church of Marx, and frankly, if there's anyone here who needs any absolution, it's YOU! You said what you think, now I'm going to say what I think. I think, that you, and professor Avery, owe every veteran and active service member an apology for your rank ingratitude for the freedom to spew your venom against them from your pieholes and your keyboards. I think you ought to crawl, slither or ooze over to the Wall, and apologize to the 58,272 troops whose names you find on it, individually, one name at a time. When you are done, you can similarly apologize to all the dead in our wars since, and when you finish that, you can apologize to every troop serving now, guarding the freedom you have chosen to misuse. The constitution says I can't ask the government to haul your sorry butts off to prison for it, but I and everyone else have the right to censure you for your conduct, and to raise our collective voice loud enough to drown your noise out, which I hope we do. Now about those packages; It just so happens I sent out half a dozen today, and if and when you and the nutty professor grow up enough to treat our troops as human beings and fellow Americans, rather than targets for your impotent political rage, and send over some yourselves, we can discuss whatever "absolution" you may deserve for your repentance. In the meantime, it is my considered judgement that neither of you is fit to shine ANY American soldier's dirty boots.

 

[marcell]

...but I and everyone else have the right to censure you for your conduct, and to raise our collective voice loud enough to drown your noise out, which I hope we do.

I don't think so... do you know why people around the world are getting enough of americans? Because they think you support the wars. Do we need to be marxists to be against wars and against sending valued young boys and girls to fight? Everyone can show opinions, no matter what they are. This everyone should respect. And once again, wars cannot guarantee freedom, unless you are defending your homeland.

 

[Lovebears65]

A Massachusetts law professor has created a campus firestorm with an email to colleagues that declares it would be "shameful" to send care packages to U.S. troops "who have gone overseas to kill other human beings."
Michael Avery, a professor at Suffolk University Law School, sent a five-paragraph email to colleagues in response to a school-wide appeal for care packages for deployed soldiers, Fox affiliate WFXT-TV reports.
"I think it is shameful that it is perceived as legitimate to solicit in an academic institution for support for men and women who have gone overseas to kill other human beings," Avery wrote.


Read more: Massachusetts Law Professor Calls Care Packages For U.S. Troops 'Shameful' | Fox News











He should go fuck himself.

What is sad is the Unions protect his salary even if he gets fired. I wish the military would show him a thing or two about integrity!!

 

[PixieStix]

Back on topic, what this "professor" in the article said was vile.

What this professor said is a perfect example of the kind of truth which has brought the wrath of hypocrisy and fanaticism down on the heads of clear thinkers throughout history. What his entire message is about is encapsulated in just one of his sentences: "Excessive patriotic zeal is a hallmark of national security states. It permits, indeed encourages, excesses in the name of national security, as we saw during the Bush administration, and which continue during the Obama administration. . ."

Whether you agree with our wars overseas or our reasons for being there, you cannot contest that our brave troops have sacrificed so much, and sometimes with their lives.

First, the United States is not at war and hasn't been at war since 1945. And if the Vietnam debacle didn't teach you that unprovoked and unnecessary military aggression is lethally and wastefully counterproductive don't you think it's time you started paying attention to people like Professer Avery?

While most of the troops who served in Vietnam were drafted, all of the troops who are fighting and dying in the Middle East volunteered to go there. While I do have sincere sympathy for those National Guardsmen, affectionately known as "weekend warriors" until Bush changed the rules and deployed them in the unnecessary, criminally initiated military aggression he created for purely political purposes, I am aware of no such absolution for those who enlisted in the Army and Marines knowing they probably would be deployed as aggressors in an unlawful invasion and occcupation of a virtually defenseless nation -- not to mention the risk to their own lives and limbs.

Challenge the govt policies, the decisions that got us bogged down in Iraq, but don't target "care packages" to the troops.

If you have a relative or a close friend under arms in the Middle East you would be understandably motivated to send that individual a package of comfort items. That would be a reasonable gesture. But to send a so-called "CARE package" to some anonymous individual who volunteered to participate in what essentially and provably is a war crime is a statement of approval!

What you need to understand is the Iraqi people did absolutely nothing to deserve what we have done to them. And the same thing goes for the vast majority of Afghanis.

The fact that a tiny percentage of Fanatical Islamics hate America does not warrant or justify what we are doing in Afghanistan. We have no right to be there. None of the nineteen shahids who attacked us on 9/11 were either Iraqi or Afghani. Those shadowy, unidentifiable fanatics known as Al Qaeda and Taliban are barely able to afford new sneakers and ammo for their AKs but our government has us convinced they are a threat to us, the wealthiest, most militarily powerful nation on Earth.

You need to realize the kind of thinking that leads to such conclusions as you've expressed here is as categorically fanatical as that of the misguided Islamics who join Al Qaeda and the Taliban. But the main difference between the two categories is those fanatics are defending their homelands against a foreign aggressor. America.

This guy was making a cheap shot, to those who were least deserving of it, and in a way to give publicity to his pathetic self.

Professor Avery has spoken a truth which is long overdue. We need to advise our troops that we do not approve of what they are doing in our names. And sending them gifts is not the way to convey that important message.

Does that make you feel special or what?
How presumptuous and long winded As well as an arrogant, self serving, and ridiculous statement.

If you do not want to send a package.... don't.

 

[Gallagher]

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