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How am I misapplying it?Who doesn't do it?No, if I were a psychologist I would have explained to you that your brain cannot live in conflict so you need to rationalize things to confirm your bias.Are you a psychologist? Or just pretend to be one on the interwebs?^ dunning effectI believe it wasn't until just recently that the right even admitted that we have a class structure in our society. And they probably don't even realize they admitted it. LolTen to one, the poorly educated rubes never read anything by Marx or Engels, just boogie men that faux "news" told them about. Marx Engels Soros, Alinsky etc, just trigger words.
Trump vs. the global elite
The reality is that what you just did was a textbook example of the dunning effect. Which is why you are not arguing that it wasn't.
I don't believe you are applying the dunning effect properly Dr.
I stated an opinion. Is every person that states their opinion subject to the dunning effect?How am I misapplying it?Who doesn't do it?No, if I were a psychologist I would have explained to you that your brain cannot live in conflict so you need to rationalize things to confirm your bias.Are you a psychologist? Or just pretend to be one on the interwebs?^ dunning effectI believe it wasn't until just recently that the right even admitted that we have a class structure in our society. And they probably don't even realize they admitted it. Lol
Trump vs. the global elite
The reality is that what you just did was a textbook example of the dunning effect. Which is why you are not arguing that it wasn't.
I don't believe you are applying the dunning effect properly Dr.
And no, not everyone assumes they are superior to others and that others are inferior to them. That's the dunning effect in a nutshell. Its application extends to beyond intelligence.
Intelligent people see themselves as nothing special and don't see others as less than special.
Your statement that:I stated an opinion. Is every person that states their opinion subject to the dunning effect?How am I misapplying it?Who doesn't do it?No, if I were a psychologist I would have explained to you that your brain cannot live in conflict so you need to rationalize things to confirm your bias.Are you a psychologist? Or just pretend to be one on the interwebs?^ dunning effect
Trump vs. the global elite
The reality is that what you just did was a textbook example of the dunning effect. Which is why you are not arguing that it wasn't.
I don't believe you are applying the dunning effect properly Dr.
And no, not everyone assumes they are superior to others and that others are inferior to them. That's the dunning effect in a nutshell. Its application extends to beyond intelligence.
Intelligent people see themselves as nothing special and don't see others as less than special.
You're not a psychologist, is your opinion of me subject to the dunning effect?
I believe it wasn't until just recently that the right even admitted that we have a class structure in our society. And they probably don't even realize they admitted it.
The dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people who are incompetent at something are unable to recognize their incompetence and believe instead that they are competent.Your statement that:I stated an opinion. Is every person that states their opinion subject to the dunning effect?How am I misapplying it?Who doesn't do it?No, if I were a psychologist I would have explained to you that your brain cannot live in conflict so you need to rationalize things to confirm your bias.
The reality is that what you just did was a textbook example of the dunning effect. Which is why you are not arguing that it wasn't.
I don't believe you are applying the dunning effect properly Dr.
And no, not everyone assumes they are superior to others and that others are inferior to them. That's the dunning effect in a nutshell. Its application extends to beyond intelligence.
Intelligent people see themselves as nothing special and don't see others as less than special.
You're not a psychologist, is your opinion of me subject to the dunning effect?
I believe it wasn't until just recently that the right even admitted that we have a class structure in our society. And they probably don't even realize they admitted it.
Implies that you believe that you are more intelligent than an entire class of people. You overestimate your intelligence and you underestimate the intelligence of others. That's the dunning effect.
Are you cherry picking again. Keep reading about it.The dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people who are incompetent at something are unable to recognize their incompetence and believe instead that they are competent.Your statement that:I stated an opinion. Is every person that states their opinion subject to the dunning effect?How am I misapplying it?Who doesn't do it?No, if I were a psychologist I would have explained to you that your brain cannot live in conflict so you need to rationalize things to confirm your bias.
The reality is that what you just did was a textbook example of the dunning effect. Which is why you are not arguing that it wasn't.
I don't believe you are applying the dunning effect properly Dr.
And no, not everyone assumes they are superior to others and that others are inferior to them. That's the dunning effect in a nutshell. Its application extends to beyond intelligence.
Intelligent people see themselves as nothing special and don't see others as less than special.
You're not a psychologist, is your opinion of me subject to the dunning effect?
I believe it wasn't until just recently that the right even admitted that we have a class structure in our society. And they probably don't even realize they admitted it.
Implies that you believe that you are more intelligent than an entire class of people. You overestimate your intelligence and you underestimate the intelligence of others. That's the dunning effect.
Like when people play doctor on the internet.
There is nothing more to tell.Are you cherry picking again. Keep reading about it.The dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people who are incompetent at something are unable to recognize their incompetence and believe instead that they are competent.Your statement that:I stated an opinion. Is every person that states their opinion subject to the dunning effect?How am I misapplying it?Who doesn't do it?
I don't believe you are applying the dunning effect properly Dr.
And no, not everyone assumes they are superior to others and that others are inferior to them. That's the dunning effect in a nutshell. Its application extends to beyond intelligence.
Intelligent people see themselves as nothing special and don't see others as less than special.
You're not a psychologist, is your opinion of me subject to the dunning effect?
I believe it wasn't until just recently that the right even admitted that we have a class structure in our society. And they probably don't even realize they admitted it.
Implies that you believe that you are more intelligent than an entire class of people. You overestimate your intelligence and you underestimate the intelligence of others. That's the dunning effect.
Like when people play doctor on the internet.
A Higher LoyaltyThe International Workingmen's Association, The right of inheritanceIt was written for people who already have a foundation in the workings of the philosophy.I tried reading the Communist Manifesto once, because I was curious. But it was dreadfully boring so I gave up.
Under marxism, what would happen to the house I own, that I bought and paid for with my own labor? Would I not be allowed to pass it on to my children?
Sounds like a terrible idea to me, and it's no wonder Marx warns against abolishing the right of inheritance too early in the revolution, first you'd have to convince people to abandon loyalty to family.
You just called Trump an ass...How am I misapplying it?Who doesn't do it?No, if I were a psychologist I would have explained to you that your brain cannot live in conflict so you need to rationalize things to confirm your bias.Are you a psychologist? Or just pretend to be one on the interwebs?^ dunning effectI believe it wasn't until just recently that the right even admitted that we have a class structure in our society. And they probably don't even realize they admitted it. Lol
Trump vs. the global elite
The reality is that what you just did was a textbook example of the dunning effect. Which is why you are not arguing that it wasn't.
I don't believe you are applying the dunning effect properly Dr.
And no, not everyone assumes they are superior to others and that others are inferior to them. That's the dunning effect in a nutshell. Its application extends to beyond intelligence.
Intelligent people see themselves as nothing special and don't see others as less than special.
Enlightened despots can rule in capitalist societies just as easily as a socialistic one...A Higher LoyaltyThe International Workingmen's Association, The right of inheritanceIt was written for people who already have a foundation in the workings of the philosophy.I tried reading the Communist Manifesto once, because I was curious. But it was dreadfully boring so I gave up.
Under marxism, what would happen to the house I own, that I bought and paid for with my own labor? Would I not be allowed to pass it on to my children?
Sounds like a terrible idea to me, and it's no wonder Marx warns against abolishing the right of inheritance too early in the revolution, first you'd have to convince people to abandon loyalty to family.
Inheritance is anti-social. The playing field belongs to the most naturally talented, not to incompetents set up with a head start because of Daddy's Money.
One-Sided Arguments Are Dishonest by NatureWhich is less than the full value for which he produces. Hence the reason I say that in a Marxist system he receives the full value for what he produces......minus taxes of course. Which in a Marxist system would be negligible. The size of our government is a consequence of our productive system.If he works for someone else, he gets what he agrees to take in exchange for his labor, minus the government's cut.
Of course, it is less than the full value of what he produces. Why hire someone if his/her labor is not beneficial to you? Production requires capital, and the people who provide that capital are also entitled to a share of the production. Why provide capital if you get nothing in return for the risk to your capital?
People who are intelligent tend to see themselves as less intelligent than they are and others as more intelligent than they are. People who are not intelligent tend to see themselves as more intelligent than they are and others as less intelligent than they are. That's the dunning effect and that is exactly what you did to an entire class of people.There is nothing more to tell.Are you cherry picking again. Keep reading about it.The dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people who are incompetent at something are unable to recognize their incompetence and believe instead that they are competent.Your statement that:I stated an opinion. Is every person that states their opinion subject to the dunning effect?How am I misapplying it?
And no, not everyone assumes they are superior to others and that others are inferior to them. That's the dunning effect in a nutshell. Its application extends to beyond intelligence.
Intelligent people see themselves as nothing special and don't see others as less than special.
You're not a psychologist, is your opinion of me subject to the dunning effect?
I believe it wasn't until just recently that the right even admitted that we have a class structure in our society. And they probably don't even realize they admitted it.
Implies that you believe that you are more intelligent than an entire class of people. You overestimate your intelligence and you underestimate the intelligence of others. That's the dunning effect.
Like when people play doctor on the internet.
You're wrong. The study doesn't examine the individuals perception of others. You are making it up. I already correctly summarized the findings.People who are intelligent tend to see themselves as less intelligent than they are and others as more intelligent than they are. People who are not intelligent tend to see themselves as more intelligent than they are and others as less intelligent than they are. That's the dunning effect and that is exactly what you did to an entire class of people.There is nothing more to tell.Are you cherry picking again. Keep reading about it.The dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people who are incompetent at something are unable to recognize their incompetence and believe instead that they are competent.Your statement that:I stated an opinion. Is every person that states their opinion subject to the dunning effect?
You're not a psychologist, is your opinion of me subject to the dunning effect?
I believe it wasn't until just recently that the right even admitted that we have a class structure in our society. And they probably don't even realize they admitted it.
Implies that you believe that you are more intelligent than an entire class of people. You overestimate your intelligence and you underestimate the intelligence of others. That's the dunning effect.
Like when people play doctor on the internet.
The only thing you we can add to that is that the inverse applies. People with a higher degree of competence are more likely to recognize their own shortcomings.The dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people who are incompetent at something are unable to recognize their incompetence and believe instead that they are competent.
People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities.
Lenin was wrong. History has proven it.Stop writing quotes from Solzhenitsyn. This is not even funny. If you are so interested in Soviet collaborators and emigrants, it is better to "Veles book" .. this is a bestseller! For idiots.
But, seriously, we must study and quote the works of Lenin.
for example Marx believed that the socialist revolution can occur only in the most developed capitalist countries
Lenin believed that the socialist revolution could occur only in the weakest link in the capitalist countries
. Lenin was right. He made the Revolution and gave preconditions for building Socialism.
Stalin implemented Lenin's ideas and built the World Power.
Marx hated the Russians, all his works were sponsored by Engels. Marx did not solve a single question, he was only able to make children and eat
Stop writing quotes from Solzhenitsyn. This is not even funny. If you are so interested in Soviet collaborators and emigrants, it is better to "Veles book" .. this is a bestseller! For idiots.
But, seriously, we must study and quote the works of Lenin.
for example Marx believed that the socialist revolution can occur only in the most developed capitalist countries
Lenin believed that the socialist revolution could occur only in the weakest link in the capitalist countries
. Lenin was right. He made the Revolution and gave preconditions for building Socialism.
Stalin implemented Lenin's ideas and built the World Power.
Marx hated the Russians, all his works were sponsored by Engels. Marx did not solve a single question, he was only able to make children and eat
You are the freaking poster child for the dunning effect.You're wrong. The study doesn't examine the individuals perception of others. You are making it up. I already correctly summarized the findings.People who are intelligent tend to see themselves as less intelligent than they are and others as more intelligent than they are. People who are not intelligent tend to see themselves as more intelligent than they are and others as less intelligent than they are. That's the dunning effect and that is exactly what you did to an entire class of people.There is nothing more to tell.Are you cherry picking again. Keep reading about it.The dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people who are incompetent at something are unable to recognize their incompetence and believe instead that they are competent.Your statement that:
Implies that you believe that you are more intelligent than an entire class of people. You overestimate your intelligence and you underestimate the intelligence of others. That's the dunning effect.
Like when people play doctor on the internet.
The only thing you we can add to that is that the inverse applies. People with a higher degree of competence are more likely to recognize their own shortcomings.The dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people who are incompetent at something are unable to recognize their incompetence and believe instead that they are competent.
Here is a link to the study.
https://www.avaresearch.com/files/UnskilledAndUnawareOfIt.pdf
People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities.
Lol, I see it now. I'm an idiot! Pretty funny actually.You are the freaking poster child for the dunning effect.
It is actually quite interesting. By Ding not addressing the validity of my post directly and instead calling into question my ability to recognize competence in others he opened himself to the same criticism he leveled at me.I used to LIKE the science of psychology ------and was DELIGHTED TO READ stuff -----like ERIKSON and
FROMM etc etc-----------I am so glad that I MISSED DUNNING AND KRUGER ---gobbly gook 101
Wrong.It is actually quite interesting. By Ding not addressing the validity of my post directly and instead calling into question my ability to recognize competence in others he opened himself to the same criticism he leveled at me.I used to LIKE the science of psychology ------and was DELIGHTED TO READ stuff -----like ERIKSON and
FROMM etc etc-----------I am so glad that I MISSED DUNNING AND KRUGER ---gobbly gook 101
