Marshall Plan

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    "As the war-torn nations of Europe faced famine and economic crisis in the wake of World War II, the United States proposed to rebuild the continent in the interest of political stability and a healthy world economy. On June 5, 1947, in a commencement address at Harvard University, Secretary of State George C. Marshall first called for American assistance in restoring the economic infrastructure of Europe. Western Europe responded favorably, and the Truman administration proposed legislation. The resulting Economic Cooperation Act of 1948 restored European agricultural and industrial productivity. Credited with preventing famine and political chaos, the plan later earned General Marshall a Nobel Peace Prize." Featured Document: The Marshall Plan

    Any thorough reading of history poses lots of 'what if' questions and even 'what if now' questions. Can one imagine in America today getting a consensus opinion on the Marshall Plan? After WWII some people in America recognized the need to help rebuild Europe. That success led to the European Union. Oddly where we interfered militarily after the War: Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan we have had less long term success.

    One piece of this interesting time that stuck me was how the Europeans eventually resented the help when it came with too much cultural and corporate influence in their affairs. Move to the present times and you wonder what will Iraq and Afghanistan eventually become. Help at some level works well, but invasion and occupation are another story. Note only the decline of Communist Russia and its satellites, nationalism is still a strong force for good and evil.

    "The war in Iraq had not even begun when public discussion began on the rebuilding of Iraq by the US. Is this to be another "not the Marshall plan"? David Ekbladh calls for rethinking the approach to so-called Marshall Plans." Peace and Conflict Monitor

    Some things never change? "The Marshall Plan abruptly ended in 1951 when the US became involved in the Korean conflict. As well, Republicans had gained control of the house and senate in 1950, and many of them disapproved of the plan. With fewer funds to allocate toward European recovery, the Marshall Plan was officially disbanded. There were efforts to extend the plan, but Republicans quickly voted down such efforts." What was the Marshall Plan?
     
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    Helping the Western Euopean nations to recover from WWII was a brilliant thing to do.

    In large part the affluence of the 1950s and 1960s (in American and western Europe)was as a direct result of that decision.
     
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    Iraq and Afghanistan are not Germany and Japan.

    Comparison is absurd.

    Both Germany and Japan had some history of democracy, and industrial economies that have NEVER existed in either Iraq or Afghanistan. Also, the Axis Powers had very strong cultural heritages, that don't exist in Iraq or Afghanistan, and frankly, probably never will.

    But there is the possiblity, given time, and LOTS of blood, sweat, tears, and gold.

    Is it worth it?

    I don't think we'll ever know. We'd need to be in Bagdad during the Opening of the first Micky D's franchise in 50 years to really know.....Jefferson thought it would take 1000 years to develop the land he procured from France in the LA purchase.
     
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    Also, it really depended not on the cash, but on the economic policies in place in the countries affected. Japan and Germany did real well, Britain did very badly until the government changed in 1952. Italy seemed to get no real benefit at all.

    What will matter in Iraq (Which should be drowning in cash) and Afghanistan is the type of government and the economic policies in place. Democracy and free markets seem to matter more than cash. Turkey gets no cash and has no oil that i am aware of, but it is the richest Islamic country. Iraq was one of the biggest opec producers, and the poverty of the place is still astounding.
     

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