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Check out the scum! Seriously, I would be proud if that caliber of people celebrated my death. It would be testament to my accomplishments.

Exactly. Union thugs who seek to profit themselves at the expense of their employer are willing to weaken that employer, weaken the economy, and hurt everybody so that they can get theirs. And then they call their employers the greedy ones.

God forbid any employees actually profit!

It's disgusting.

If she would have been a lefty they would be celebrating her for her accomplishments.

Yes, because her accomplishments would have been different, and better.

Just like I don't celebrate Reagan's firing Air Traffic Controllers, or cutting and running from Beirut.

 

[JoeB131]

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JoeB doesn't follow through well when his arguments are taken apart. He still hasn't admitted he got it wrong re Japanese unions vs American unions in his effort to elevate American unions to godlike status as he seems to see them. Japan's unions continue to work hand and hand with management to strengthen and improve profitablility of the corporations and strengthen the economy. USA unions continue to do just the opposite.

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I don't follow through on Derpa-Derps like you who keep saying "Derpa-Derp, Uniion bad. Why should I get good pay, Derpa-derp. Praise Jesus, Derpa, derp."

I got it completely right on Japanese Unions.

We enjoy the standard of living we have because of unions.

It's why we have a "Labor Day" and not a "Capitalist Bloodsucker Day".

 

[JoeB131]

The last word on thatcher...

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[Toro]

The last word on thatcher...

Roger Waters Pink Floyd - Pt 03/04 - Not Now John - YouTube

Waiting for you to show us where Germany imposes a different VAT on foreign goods.

 

[JoeB131]

Nope... why don't you prove they don't...

 

[Trajan]

Trajan exaggerates but the time for reform had come, and reform was necessary, and it was Maggie.

Was she necessary: yes.

Was she as good as folks think: no but better than what her detractors had to say.

Was she better than Ronnie: Crusader Frank would have been better than Ronnie.

The socialist longtime PM, Tony Blair, had this to say about her:

8 April 2013 Last updated at 14:16 ET Help

Former Prime Minister Tony Blair has described Baroness Thatcher as "a towering political figure" whose legacy will be felt worldwide.

Mr Blair said Lady Thatcher had always been "immensely kind" to him.

He added: "I always thought my job was to build on some of the things she had done rather than reverse them.

"Many of the things she said, even though they pained people like me on the left... had a certain creditability."

BBC News - Tony Blair: 'My job was to build on some Thatcher policies' Listen to the video. He was very kind in his assessment of her.

are you speaking from experience?





here-

let me help you.....

this is PART Part of the mile long backlog of rotting garage IN Finsbury Park London....circa 1979....

Soho, the historic Westminster borough of London....

how about the miners strikes? Familiar with the "3 day week" enacted in the early 70's to conserve electricity?

do I need to school you some more?

Oh, are we taking snapshots to make a point? Sanitation strikes mean that the gov't should get tough?

Is this your defense of a powerful government?


Here's another snapshot:

That's not water - that's oil, forming a lake in Exxon's dumping from the Arkansas spill.

Should gov't now get tough with Exxon? Maybe nationalize the oil industry?

thx for not answering the point in any way shape or form, you're babbling dude......

 

[Trajan]

You have been paddled, Trajan, by me. I agreed with most of your stuff but pointed out that you exaggerated. You did. Now go listen to Tony Blair at the link.

....you know Jake, after having to read your 'verbiage' for a coupla of years, I must say; you do have a singular idiocy, you're the only one here on scale that makes a non informative, declarative statement, does not back it up when asked, then tells someone who has, they have been administered punishment for some illusionary offense you yourself cannot even quantify....... you're a simpleton jake......you can bottle that idiocy and name it for yourself.

Trajan, I am not concerned what you think: only what you write. When you are willing to deal with real material, then I will truly concern myself with your 'verbiage.'.

Take the time to listen to Tony Blair and less to the voices in your head.

right and I bet you bought Krugmans outright lie as to the economy not picking up till 95......


empirical evidence to you is the empire state bldg.....go read a book jake....

 

[Trajan]

Which is why in three general elections, she won all three.

The British never voted her out of office.

Challenges to leadership and resignation
See also: Conservative Party (UK) leadership election, 1990
Thatcher was challenged for the leadership of the Conservative Party by the little-known backbench MP Sir Anthony Meyer in the 1989 leadership election.[174] Of the 374 Conservative MPs eligible to vote 314 voted for Thatcher and 33 for Meyer.[174] Her supporters in the party viewed the result as a success, and rejected suggestions that there was discontent within the party.[174]
During her premiership Thatcher had the second-lowest average approval rating, at 40 percent, of any post-war Prime Minister. Polls consistently showed that she was less popular than her party.[175] A self-described conviction politician, Thatcher always insisted that she did not care about her poll ratings, pointing instead to her unbeaten election record.[176]


Thatcher in 1990
Opinion polls in September 1990 reported that Labour had established a 14% lead over the Conservatives,[177] and by November the Conservatives had been trailing Labour for 18 months.[175] These ratings, together with Thatcher's combative personality and willingness to override colleagues' opinions, contributed to discontent within the Conservative party.[178]
On 1 November 1990 Geoffrey Howe, the last remaining member of Thatcher's original 1979 cabinet, resigned from his position as Deputy Prime Minister over her refusal to agree to a timetable for Britain to join the European Exchange Rate Mechanism.[177][179] In his resignation speech on 13 November, Howe commented on Thatcher's European stance: "It is rather like sending your opening batsmen to the crease only for them to find the moment that the first balls are bowled that their bats have been broken before the game by the team captain."[180] His resignation was fatal to Thatcher's premiership.[181]
The next day, Michael Heseltine mounted a challenge for the leadership of the Conservative Party.[182] Opinion polls had indicated that he would give the Conservatives a national lead over Labour.[183] Although Thatcher won the first ballot, Heseltine attracted sufficient support (152 votes) to force a second ballot.[184] Thatcher initially stated that she intended to "fight on and fight to win" the second ballot, but consultation with her Cabinet persuaded her to withdraw.[178][185] After seeing the Queen, calling other world leaders, and making one final Commons speech, she left Downing Street in tears. She regarded her ousting as a betrayal.[186]
Thatcher was replaced as Prime Minister and party leader by her Chancellor John Major, who oversaw an upturn in Conservative support in the 17 months leading up to the 1992 general election and led the Conservatives to their fourth successive victory on 9 April 1992.[187] Thatcher favoured Major over Heseltine in the leadership contest, but her support for him weakened in later years.[188]
Margaret Thatcher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I was standing outside Westminster when Thatcher drove by after resigning.

She stood for election three times nationally and won every time. She was the longest continuous serving PM during the century up until she left office.

So the idea that Maggie was hated by the British is garbage.

hey bro, you have to understand, these folks here in this thread , throwing around their 30 seconds of goggling have read nothing of substance or lived it, they have been inculcated with class war BS, they never had to see it reach its fullest and complete grasp of a nation as it did in the UK at that time........., they have no idea their Union utopia drove the UK into breakdown, bankruptcy and a truly dystopian environment that Oliver Twist would have felt at home in, that the first and for many decades foremost and consummate Industrial/Mercantile nation had to go to going to a 3 day manufacturing week? Seriously? They have no idea.

They are nether old enough or mature enough to understand what Britain became in the late 60 and 70's.......their sppt for the Occupy movements says it all.

 

[Toro]

Nope... why don't you prove they don't...

That's the answer I'd expect from someone who doesn't know WTF he's talking about and pulls things out of his ass.

You're the one who made the claim. You back it up. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Here are all the European VAT rates and the exemptions.

VAT Live2013 EU VAT rates | VAT Live

Here's a guide on German VAT from KPMG. It says nothing about discriminatory rates.

http://www.kpmg.com/Global/en/servi...ials-2012/germany-2011-vat-gst-essentials.pdf

Here is an EU document on European VAT rates. It says nothing about charging different VAT rates on foreign goods.

http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...tion/vat/how_vat_works/rates/vat_rates_en.pdf

Looks like you're a bullshitter.

Maybe lk eder can help you out.

 

[JoeB131]

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Can you show us where VAT is higher on foreign goods in Germany because I don't think that's right. I'm looking at a few sites right now about international goods and there is no mention of it. Discrimination on VAT for foreign goods is not allowed under the WTO.

Right. because that never happens.

I love when the people who wrecked the economy try to tell me how it works.

Prove it does, provide some linkage.

I don't do links to prove things to a--holes.

Because when I do, they all pretend tht they didn't see them, or claim they are from "Some left wing source" like The New York Times.

 

[JoeB131]

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hey bro, you have to understand, these folks here in this thread , throwing around their 30 seconds of goggling have read nothing of substance or lived it, they have been inculcated with class war BS, they never had to see it reach its fullest and complete grasp of a nation as it did in the UK at that time........., they have no idea their Union utopia drove the UK into breakdown, bankruptcy and a truly dystopian environment that Oliver Twist would have felt at home in, that the first and for many decades foremost and consummate Industrial/Mercantile nation had to go to going to a 3 day manufacturing week? Seriously? They have no idea.

They are nether old enough or mature enough to understand what Britain became in the late 60 and 70's.......their sppt for the Occupy movements says it all.

Most Brits think that Thatcher was the beginning of the decline.

Actually, they are right.

You guys talk about the destuction of the middle class like it was a good thing.

And then you scratch your heads and wonder why someone like Obama got elected.

 

[Toro]

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hey bro, you have to understand, these folks here in this thread , throwing around their 30 seconds of goggling have read nothing of substance or lived it, they have been inculcated with class war BS, they never had to see it reach its fullest and complete grasp of a nation as it did in the UK at that time........., they have no idea their Union utopia drove the UK into breakdown, bankruptcy and a truly dystopian environment that Oliver Twist would have felt at home in, that the first and for many decades foremost and consummate Industrial/Mercantile nation had to go to going to a 3 day manufacturing week? Seriously? They have no idea.

They are nether old enough or mature enough to understand what Britain became in the late 60 and 70's.......their sppt for the Occupy movements says it all.

Most Brits think that Thatcher was the beginning of the decline.

They do?

You want to back that up or are you talking out of your ass again?

 

[Toro]

Right. because that never happens.

I love when the people who wrecked the economy try to tell me how it works.

Prove it does, provide some linkage.

I don't do links to prove things to a--holes.

Because when I do, they all pretend tht they didn't see them, or claim they are from "Some left wing source" like The New York Times.

I don't.

Your inability to back up your claim is noted.

 

[poet]

Margaret Thatcher has died following a stroke - ITV News

Good. Ding dong the witch is dead

 

[JoeB131]

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They do?

You want to back that up or are you talking out of your ass again?

No, I'm not going to waste a good morning proving to you the sky is blue.

So just close it out with your usual "Waaaaahhhhhh, you're just a meanie who doesn't like Mormons and rich people".

 

[Meathead]

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They do?

You want to back that up or are you talking out of your ass again?

No, I'm not going to waste a good morning proving to you the sky is blue.

So just close it out with your usual "Waaaaahhhhhh, you're just a meanie who doesn't like Mormons and rich people".

If you don't back it up you're pretty much a punk. But then I suppose we already knew that.

 

[JoeB131]

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They do?

You want to back that up or are you talking out of your ass again?

No, I'm not going to waste a good morning proving to you the sky is blue.

So just close it out with your usual "Waaaaahhhhhh, you're just a meanie who doesn't like Mormons and rich people".

If you don't back it up you're pretty much a punk. But then I suppose we already knew that.

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People are celebrating her death in the UK.

London braces for massive party to ?celebrate? Thatcher?s death | The Raw Story

When people celebrate your death, you were pretty much a serious fuckup.

 

[Toro]

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They do?

You want to back that up or are you talking out of your ass again?

No, I'm not going to waste a good morning proving to you the sky is blue.

So just close it out with your usual "Waaaaahhhhhh, you're just a meanie who doesn't like Mormons and rich people".

You won't because you can't.

I learned pretty quickly when I lived in Britain that the country considered itself to have been in decline since the war.

The British elected Thatcher because the UK was in decline and they wanted it stopped. Then they elected her again and again, such that she was, and still is, the longest serving British Prime Minister in nearly 200 years.

So stop making shit up.

 

[JoeB131]

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You won't because you can't.

I learned pretty quickly when I lived in Britain that the country considered itself to have been in decline since the war.

The British elected Thatcher because the UK was in decline and they wanted it stopped. Then they elected her again and again, such that she was, and still is, the longest serving British Prime Minister in nearly 200 years.

So stop making shit up.

Yeah, it was the same reason why people voted for Ray-Gun (including myself.) They wanted a pain-free way to feel good about their countries again after their countries had stumbled.

Unfortunately, they made matters worse, not better. Mostly by destroying the middle class and getting rid of the protections from the greedy earlier generations had the good sense to put in.

In Thatcher's case, her own party did her in. Even they had enough of her bullshit.

 

[Toro]

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You won't because you can't.

I learned pretty quickly when I lived in Britain that the country considered itself to have been in decline since the war.

The British elected Thatcher because the UK was in decline and they wanted it stopped. Then they elected her again and again, such that she was, and still is, the longest serving British Prime Minister in nearly 200 years.

So stop making shit up.

Yeah, it was the same reason why people voted for Ray-Gun (including myself.) They wanted a pain-free way to feel good about their countries again after their countries had stumbled.

Unfortunately, they made matters worse, not better. Mostly by destroying the middle class and getting rid of the protections from the greedy earlier generations had the good sense to put in.

In Thatcher's case, her own party did her in. Even they had enough of her bullshit.

You are so clueless, it's laughable. You are an idiot if you think people voted for Thatcher because they wanted to feel good pain free. I mean, a total idiot.

And no, her party did not get rid of her. If you had a clue, you'd know that rather than talking out of your ass with all your class warfare bullshit. Her MPs voted for someone else. She was still popular within the party. And - and - in the first vote, she received more votes than anyone else. She resigned because she didn't think she'd win a final vote.

It was time for Maggie to go. The poll tax was very unpopular. The Conservative MPs thought they'd lose if they passed it. So they got someone else to lead. And - here's the best part - they won the next election too!.

But you didn't know any of that. It's just easier for you to spew meaningless bromides and mindless drivel.