Marco Rubio, our Establishment’s controlled sock puppet

[TNHarley]

A "solution" that has failed repeatedly. Incidentally, by pure coincidence, that is an insane failed policy that keeps our wages stagnate and his big donors support. Yes, I totally get it now..
If that fuck REALLY wanted to fix immigration, he wouldn't have the support that he does. He would be calling for e-verify and cut them off at the source. Instead, he supports amnesty and shipping our jobs overseas. Which, BTW, would ALSO keep wages stagnate. Not to mention losing them completely.
YOU believe it!!

No, he doesn't support blanket amnesty. I don't see how a single senator is going to fix immigration. They broke the job market? I call bull. They are doing low grunt stuff for the most part, yard work, painting, etc. The border needs to be secured to prevent it but we aren't going to round them up. Rubio's plan sounds reasonable to me, recent ones with no ties get shipped out with penalties and waiting periods for those staying. Your solution is what?

He is running for President. I am sorry, but his opinion matters.....
Illegals didn't break the market. Our politicians did it. The same fuckin kind that POS is. I don't agree with deportation. I used to, but I came up with a better solution : TNHarleys solution to the immigration problem

Why are you sorry his opinion matters? Who said otherwise? The illegals are here because no one has fixed the border problems yet.

Your solution involves everyone proving they are citizens, which means carrying your papers like Nazi Germany. No one will win with that plan. And there are laws against hiring illegals. How do they legally pay federal withholding?

Because apparently you think it doesn't..
And no one will fix it. For gawd sakes man, you are sitting there basically supporting something that will only make it worse! If you want to fix it, fix it. Don't invoke FAILED POLITICAL INSANITY.
No it doesn't. Not at all. It means proving you are a citizen to rent or buy a home etc. Seems like any civilized country with laws would do that in the first place. Especially not giving law breakers rights to tax payer money.
But that's what we get when dumbfucks elect establishment republicans and democrats. Anti-American policies.

But according to your philosophy Ronald Reagan was an establishment politician. We need to crack down on illegal immigration and I'm not for giving them public assistance, that should come from the state and monitored accordingly. Rubio's plan is much more palatable to the masses than Trump's. I'm not sure where Cruz is on it.

He was. Just like he enjoyed shitting the constitution..
Rubios is only palatable to partisan hacks and lefties. People that care about America aint buying that insane bullshit.

 

[Iceweasel]

No, he doesn't support blanket amnesty. I don't see how a single senator is going to fix immigration. They broke the job market? I call bull. They are doing low grunt stuff for the most part, yard work, painting, etc. The border needs to be secured to prevent it but we aren't going to round them up. Rubio's plan sounds reasonable to me, recent ones with no ties get shipped out with penalties and waiting periods for those staying. Your solution is what?

He is running for President. I am sorry, but his opinion matters.....
Illegals didn't break the market. Our politicians did it. The same fuckin kind that POS is. I don't agree with deportation. I used to, but I came up with a better solution : TNHarleys solution to the immigration problem

Why are you sorry his opinion matters? Who said otherwise? The illegals are here because no one has fixed the border problems yet.

Your solution involves everyone proving they are citizens, which means carrying your papers like Nazi Germany. No one will win with that plan. And there are laws against hiring illegals. How do they legally pay federal withholding?

Because apparently you think it doesn't..
And no one will fix it. For gawd sakes man, you are sitting there basically supporting something that will only make it worse! If you want to fix it, fix it. Don't invoke FAILED POLITICAL INSANITY.
No it doesn't. Not at all. It means proving you are a citizen to rent or buy a home etc. Seems like any civilized country with laws would do that in the first place. Especially not giving law breakers rights to tax payer money.
But that's what we get when dumbfucks elect establishment republicans and democrats. Anti-American policies.

But according to your philosophy Ronald Reagan was an establishment politician. We need to crack down on illegal immigration and I'm not for giving them public assistance, that should come from the state and monitored accordingly. Rubio's plan is much more palatable to the masses than Trump's. I'm not sure where Cruz is on it.

He was. Just like he enjoyed shitting the constitution..
Rubios is only palatable to partisan hacks and lefties. People that care about America aint buying that insane bullshit.

You are short on specifics and big on insults. That's what America ain't buying.

 

[Redfish]

He is running for President. I am sorry, but his opinion matters.....
Illegals didn't break the market. Our politicians did it. The same fuckin kind that POS is. I don't agree with deportation. I used to, but I came up with a better solution : TNHarleys solution to the immigration problem

Why are you sorry his opinion matters? Who said otherwise? The illegals are here because no one has fixed the border problems yet.

Your solution involves everyone proving they are citizens, which means carrying your papers like Nazi Germany. No one will win with that plan. And there are laws against hiring illegals. How do they legally pay federal withholding?

Because apparently you think it doesn't..
And no one will fix it. For gawd sakes man, you are sitting there basically supporting something that will only make it worse! If you want to fix it, fix it. Don't invoke FAILED POLITICAL INSANITY.
No it doesn't. Not at all. It means proving you are a citizen to rent or buy a home etc. Seems like any civilized country with laws would do that in the first place. Especially not giving law breakers rights to tax payer money.
But that's what we get when dumbfucks elect establishment republicans and democrats. Anti-American policies.

But according to your philosophy Ronald Reagan was an establishment politician. We need to crack down on illegal immigration and I'm not for giving them public assistance, that should come from the state and monitored accordingly. Rubio's plan is much more palatable to the masses than Trump's. I'm not sure where Cruz is on it.

He was. Just like he enjoyed shitting the constitution..
Rubios is only palatable to partisan hacks and lefties. People that care about America aint buying that insane bullshit.

You are short on specifics and big on insults. That's what America ain't buying.

The bottom line here is that we all better be ready to vote against hillybilly or Bernie or plugs biden and vote FOR the GOP candidate whoever it is.

Do not repeat the mistake of 2012 and stay home because "Romney is not conservative enough" or " he is a Mormon"---------------that kind of thinking got us 4 more years of Obama------------------DO NOT REPEAT THAT MISTAKE.

 

[TNHarley]

He is running for President. I am sorry, but his opinion matters.....
Illegals didn't break the market. Our politicians did it. The same fuckin kind that POS is. I don't agree with deportation. I used to, but I came up with a better solution : TNHarleys solution to the immigration problem

Why are you sorry his opinion matters? Who said otherwise? The illegals are here because no one has fixed the border problems yet.

Your solution involves everyone proving they are citizens, which means carrying your papers like Nazi Germany. No one will win with that plan. And there are laws against hiring illegals. How do they legally pay federal withholding?

Because apparently you think it doesn't..
And no one will fix it. For gawd sakes man, you are sitting there basically supporting something that will only make it worse! If you want to fix it, fix it. Don't invoke FAILED POLITICAL INSANITY.
No it doesn't. Not at all. It means proving you are a citizen to rent or buy a home etc. Seems like any civilized country with laws would do that in the first place. Especially not giving law breakers rights to tax payer money.
But that's what we get when dumbfucks elect establishment republicans and democrats. Anti-American policies.

But according to your philosophy Ronald Reagan was an establishment politician. We need to crack down on illegal immigration and I'm not for giving them public assistance, that should come from the state and monitored accordingly. Rubio's plan is much more palatable to the masses than Trump's. I'm not sure where Cruz is on it.

He was. Just like he enjoyed shitting the constitution..
Rubios is only palatable to partisan hacks and lefties. People that care about America aint buying that insane bullshit.

You are short on specifics and big on insults. That's what America ain't buying.

What would you like me to get specific on exactly? I LOVE specifics

 

[Iceweasel]

What would you like me to get specific on exactly? I LOVE specifics

How Reagan shit on the Constitution and why he's not establishment but Rubio is.

 

[TNHarley]

What would you like me to get specific on exactly? I LOVE specifics

How Reagan shit on the Constitution and why he's not establishment but Rubio is.

he was a corporatist
Specifics on Reagan Hmmmm..
War on drugs, war authorization, countless EOs, FOPA Act are a few specifics

 

[johnwk]

Why are you sorry his opinion matters? Who said otherwise? The illegals are here because no one has fixed the border problems yet.

Your solution involves everyone proving they are citizens, which means carrying your papers like Nazi Germany. No one will win with that plan. And there are laws against hiring illegals. How do they legally pay federal withholding?

Because apparently you think it doesn't..
And no one will fix it. For gawd sakes man, you are sitting there basically supporting something that will only make it worse! If you want to fix it, fix it. Don't invoke FAILED POLITICAL INSANITY.
No it doesn't. Not at all. It means proving you are a citizen to rent or buy a home etc. Seems like any civilized country with laws would do that in the first place. Especially not giving law breakers rights to tax payer money.
But that's what we get when dumbfucks elect establishment republicans and democrats. Anti-American policies.

But according to your philosophy Ronald Reagan was an establishment politician. We need to crack down on illegal immigration and I'm not for giving them public assistance, that should come from the state and monitored accordingly. Rubio's plan is much more palatable to the masses than Trump's. I'm not sure where Cruz is on it.

He was. Just like he enjoyed shitting the constitution..
Rubios is only palatable to partisan hacks and lefties. People that care about America aint buying that insane bullshit.

You are short on specifics and big on insults. That's what America ain't buying.

The bottom line here is that we all better be ready to vote against hillybilly or Bernie or plugs biden and vote FOR the GOP candidate whoever it is.

Do not repeat the mistake of 2012 and stay home because "Romney is not conservative enough" or " he is a Mormon"---------------that kind of thinking got us 4 more years of Obama------------------DO NOT REPEAT THAT MISTAKE.

Why vote for Rubio when he will continue Obama's open border tyranny and allow the millions upon millions of illegal entrants to remain here. To allow these millions to remain here will fundamentally transform America into a "free cheese democracy" in view of the fact that over 70 percent of migrants from Mexico and Central America wind up on the public dole while American Citizens are made into tax slaves to support their economic needs.

Hillary and Rubio have the same plan to deal will illegal entrants . . . which is letting them stay!

JWK

To support Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders, which panders to the Chamber of Commerce, the Club for Growth and our Global Governance Crowd

 

[PredFan]

I don't think it's fair to call Rubio a sock puppet. The establishment hated Rubio from the time he got to Washington up until he did well in Iowa and suddenly they dropped Bush in favor of him.

I'm a Cruz supporter but I'm willing to give Rubio the benefit of the doubt.

 

[PredFan]

Because apparently you think it doesn't..
And no one will fix it. For gawd sakes man, you are sitting there basically supporting something that will only make it worse! If you want to fix it, fix it. Don't invoke FAILED POLITICAL INSANITY.
No it doesn't. Not at all. It means proving you are a citizen to rent or buy a home etc. Seems like any civilized country with laws would do that in the first place. Especially not giving law breakers rights to tax payer money.
But that's what we get when dumbfucks elect establishment republicans and democrats. Anti-American policies.

But according to your philosophy Ronald Reagan was an establishment politician. We need to crack down on illegal immigration and I'm not for giving them public assistance, that should come from the state and monitored accordingly. Rubio's plan is much more palatable to the masses than Trump's. I'm not sure where Cruz is on it.

He was. Just like he enjoyed shitting the constitution..
Rubios is only palatable to partisan hacks and lefties. People that care about America aint buying that insane bullshit.

You are short on specifics and big on insults. That's what America ain't buying.

The bottom line here is that we all better be ready to vote against hillybilly or Bernie or plugs biden and vote FOR the GOP candidate whoever it is.

Do not repeat the mistake of 2012 and stay home because "Romney is not conservative enough" or " he is a Mormon"---------------that kind of thinking got us 4 more years of Obama------------------DO NOT REPEAT THAT MISTAKE.

Why vote for Rubio when he will continue Obama's open border tyranny and allow the millions upon millions of illegal entrants to remain here. To allow these millions to remain here will fundamentally transform America into a "free cheese democracy" in view of the fact that over 70 percent of migrants from Mexico and Central America wind up on the public dole while American Citizens are made into tax slaves to support their economic needs.

Hillary and Rubio have the same plan to deal will illegal entrants . . . which is letting them stay!

JWK

To support Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders, which panders to the Chamber of Commerce, the Club for Growth and our Global Governance Crowd

Because that is just one issue. I like to concider all issues, and right now IMO, the biggest one is SCOTUS picks. Rubio can win the general and Trump cannot.

 

[Redfish]

But according to your philosophy Ronald Reagan was an establishment politician. We need to crack down on illegal immigration and I'm not for giving them public assistance, that should come from the state and monitored accordingly. Rubio's plan is much more palatable to the masses than Trump's. I'm not sure where Cruz is on it.

He was. Just like he enjoyed shitting the constitution..
Rubios is only palatable to partisan hacks and lefties. People that care about America aint buying that insane bullshit.

You are short on specifics and big on insults. That's what America ain't buying.

The bottom line here is that we all better be ready to vote against hillybilly or Bernie or plugs biden and vote FOR the GOP candidate whoever it is.

Do not repeat the mistake of 2012 and stay home because "Romney is not conservative enough" or " he is a Mormon"---------------that kind of thinking got us 4 more years of Obama------------------DO NOT REPEAT THAT MISTAKE.

Why vote for Rubio when he will continue Obama's open border tyranny and allow the millions upon millions of illegal entrants to remain here. To allow these millions to remain here will fundamentally transform America into a "free cheese democracy" in view of the fact that over 70 percent of migrants from Mexico and Central America wind up on the public dole while American Citizens are made into tax slaves to support their economic needs.

Hillary and Rubio have the same plan to deal will illegal entrants . . . which is letting them stay!

JWK

To support Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders, which panders to the Chamber of Commerce, the Club for Growth and our Global Governance Crowd

Because that is just one issue. I like to concider all issues, and right now IMO, the biggest one is SCOTUS picks. Rubio can win the general and Trump cannot.

any GOP candidate will win the general. Hillary is a failed candidate and Bernie is a moronic socialist.

 

[PredFan]

He was. Just like he enjoyed shitting the constitution..
Rubios is only palatable to partisan hacks and lefties. People that care about America aint buying that insane bullshit.

You are short on specifics and big on insults. That's what America ain't buying.

The bottom line here is that we all better be ready to vote against hillybilly or Bernie or plugs biden and vote FOR the GOP candidate whoever it is.

Do not repeat the mistake of 2012 and stay home because "Romney is not conservative enough" or " he is a Mormon"---------------that kind of thinking got us 4 more years of Obama------------------DO NOT REPEAT THAT MISTAKE.

Why vote for Rubio when he will continue Obama's open border tyranny and allow the millions upon millions of illegal entrants to remain here. To allow these millions to remain here will fundamentally transform America into a "free cheese democracy" in view of the fact that over 70 percent of migrants from Mexico and Central America wind up on the public dole while American Citizens are made into tax slaves to support their economic needs.

Hillary and Rubio have the same plan to deal will illegal entrants . . . which is letting them stay!

JWK

To support Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders, which panders to the Chamber of Commerce, the Club for Growth and our Global Governance Crowd

Because that is just one issue. I like to concider all issues, and right now IMO, the biggest one is SCOTUS picks. Rubio can win the general and Trump cannot.

any GOP candidate will win the general. Hillary is a failed candidate and Bernie is a moronic socialist.

I hope you are right, but I'm not sure if Trump.

 

[percysunshine]

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I thought rdean was our establishment’s controlled sock puppet
...who switched them?

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[ScienceRocks]

I'd take a pile of horse shit over the tea party. The tea party is 1880-1890 gilided age bullshit.

 

[Iceweasel]

I'd take a pile of horse shit over the tea party. The tea party is 1880-1890 gilided age bullshit.

I'm just curious. Have you ever had Portland's water supply tested?

 

[johnwk]

Legendary conservative, Phyllis Schlafly, says Rubio betrayed us!


See Schlafly unloads on Rubio: 'He betrayed us all'


”In 2009, Marco Rubio was a plucky challenger for the open Senate seat in Florida, taking on incumbent Republican Gov. Charlie Crist. Though Rubio was trailing in the polls, one leading conservative activist thought he had real potential and vowed to help him.

“When Marco Rubio ran for the Senate in Florida, I think I was the first one to endorse him,” said Phyllis Schlafly. “I made a trip down to Florida in 2009 just for the purpose of helping him.”

But Schlafly, a legendary conservative activist, author and WND columnist, now says she is bitterly disappointed by Rubio’s record.”

Schlafly is correct about Rubio’s record and how he has betrayed those who worked to get him elected. Not only has Rubio betrayed those who worked to get him elected, but this slithering snake has thrown his hat in with those who work to subvert our Constitution and fundamentally transform America into a “free cheese democracy” with a majority of its population dependent upon government for their subsistence. Were we not warned about this fatal mistake when Hamilton wrote? A POWER OVER A MAN's SUBSISTENCE AMOUNTS TO A POWER OVER HIS WILL ____ Hamilton, No. 79 Federalist Papers


JWK


To support Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders, which panders to the Chamber of Commerce, the Club for Growth and our Global Governance Crowd

 

[Redfish]

I'd take a pile of horse shit over the tea party. The tea party is 1880-1890 gilided age bullshit.

NO, actually the tea party is the party of 1776 and the constitution. You are part of the far left, huge government, bullshit party that is destroying this nation, our culture, and our kids future.

 

[johnwk]

I'd take a pile of horse shit over the tea party. The tea party is 1880-1890 gilided age bullshit.

NO, actually the tea party is the party of 1776 and the constitution. You are part of the far left, huge government, bullshit party that is destroying this nation, our culture, and our kids future.

Amen to that!

JWK


If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon an Obama, welfare, food stamp, section 8 housing, college loan check, and now free Obamacare along with FREE BACON, we can blackmail them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Our Washington Establishment’s Free Cheese Democracy, designed to establish a federal plantation which redistributes wealth that wage earners, business and investors have worked to create.

 

[imawhosure]

How times have changed in just a few days. It was Trump and Cruz, now it is Rubio.

To many people are listening to the media and the left, and it shows. Don't people understand that the real reason the Democrats want Rubio is because they have an inkling they might lose and want their apple cart left intact?

We have massive amounts of threads on Trump, but one of his main issues is illegal immigration. What would that do to the Democratic plan of one party rule if he got elected ?

Cruz is a constitutionalist in total. How would that affect their plan?

Now Rubio, and look at what he thinks and backed! See what I am saying?

If you actually believe Hillary is going to make it to the general without getting booted by the DNC, and if all you really care about is putting someone...........anyone, from the Republican party in the White House...........this time only............then Marco is your candidate. He will keep the seat warm for the Democrat in 20, or 24...........and since little will change, HE will get all the grief we give the left over Obama, since with little changing, it will be the same for his economic performance.

Will I vote for Rubio over Hillary or Bernie? Sure I will; then I will run away from defending his policies, as the establishment keeps Obamas all in place while Americans seethe and blame him.

We have 2 GOP candidates who will no doubt, change things tremendously albeit differently. The Democrats have at this time; the most unlikable candidate running as their perceived nominee in modern history. And we are discussing Rubio? The left has to love our gumption and guile as they smile, knowing we are now talking about giving them EXACTLY what they want.....a win-win for them. Win they win, lose.....they still win, and we get the blame for their policies.

Yes, how far we have come in a few days. We are not talking about the winner, 2nd place is now the loser, and 3rd place somehow becomes the savior. Yep, the Democrats are laughing as they drink their wine, and eat their brie! And I don't blame them, they have the narrative again, and to many GOPers are listening.

 

[johnwk]

How times have changed in just a few days. It was Trump and Cruz, now it is Rubio.

To many people are listening to the media and the left, and it shows. Don't people understand that the real reason the Democrats want Rubio is because they have an inkling they might lose and want their apple cart left intact?

We have massive amounts of threads on Trump, but one of his main issues is illegal immigration. What would that do to the Democratic plan of one party rule if he got elected ?

Cruz is a constitutionalist in total. How would that affect their plan?

Now Rubio, and look at what he thinks and backed! See what I am saying?

If you actually believe Hillary is going to make it to the general without getting booted by the DNC, and if all you really care about is putting someone...........anyone, from the Republican party in the White House...........this time only............then Marco is your candidate. He will keep the seat warm for the Democrat in 20, or 24...........and since little will change, HE will get all the grief we give the left over Obama, since with little changing, it will be the same for his economic performance.

Will I vote for Rubio over Hillary or Bernie? Sure I will; then I will run away from defending his policies, as the establishment keeps Obamas all in place while Americans seethe and blame him.

We have 2 GOP candidates who will no doubt, change things tremendously albeit differently. The Democrats have at this time; the most unlikable candidate running as their perceived nominee in modern history. And we are discussing Rubio? The left has to love our gumption and guile as they smile, knowing we are now talking about giving them EXACTLY what they want.....a win-win for them. Win they win, lose.....they still win, and we get the blame for their policies.

Yes, how far we have come in a few days. We are not talking about the winner, 2nd place is now the loser, and 3rd place somehow becomes the savior. Yep, the Democrats are laughing as they drink their wine, and eat their brie! And I don't blame them, they have the narrative again, and to many GOPers are listening.

Great summary!

JWK

 

[johnwk]

I'd take a pile of horse shit over the tea party. The tea party is 1880-1890 gilided age bullshit.

The tea party is made up of patriotic American's who love their country and reject Obama's free cheese democracy!


JWK

If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon an Obama, welfare, food stamp, section 8 housing, college loan check, and now free Obamacare along with FREE BACON, we can blackmail them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Our Washington Establishment’s Free Cheese Democracy, designed to establish a federal plantation which redistributes wealth that wage earners, business and investors have worked to create.