Map of Ottoman Empire @ 1900's clearly shows, land NOT OWNED BY ARABS:

[montelatici]

Historical facts fly in the face of those who claim: "The Jews stole the land".

The "land" was Ottoman Empire territory for 600 years, and then under the control of the British after WWI once the Ottoman Empire collapsed.

Get it right, the Arabs had no say or control over what happened to the land for 800 years. In fact, the Ottomans who CONQUERED the Arabs were enemies:

You are hilarious. You post a little mickey mouse map and deny the facts as reported in the Survey of Palestine prepared for the UN as the official record of the Mandatory prior to partition.


"6. The estimated total population has increased in the 15 years from 1922 to the middle of 1937, by 631,272 persons. The increase is due to immigration and to the excess of births over deaths, the allocation of the total increases between these two factors being estimated to be as follows:--

	All religions.	Moslems.	Jews.	Christians.	Others.
Total increase of population Increase by migration Natural increase	631,272 281,339 349,933	286,770 25,168 261,602	302,294 245,433 56,861	38,305 10,414 27,891	3,903 324 3,579

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1937

1937! Ha ha ha! You are a joke. That would be after the third wave of Arab Muslim invasions.

That map is 100% accurate. Unless you can show me a map that calls the land "Palestinian / Arab Empire"....you are shit outta luck and doing nothing but pissing in the wind.

Read ma lips, Arabs never owned the land.

The end.

Exactly!

During the 1800s the land was sparsely populated, but even then Jerusalem had a Jewish majority. That is a fact. During the late 1800s the Jews started to return. Jewish communities were starting the transformation of the "flower in the desert!" With this economic revival brought along Arab squatters. In fact Tel Aviv was founded in 1909 when the land was still under Ottoman Rule.

Then came the British Rule in 1914 after WW I. During this time the Jews were forbidden to immigrate to the lands, yes Muslims could immigrate without even getting their bags checked. During this time it was the vast majority of the people who call themselves Palestinians came to the lands. The narrative that the Muslim revisionist state that most were on the lands for centuries was a great lie! Most came from Syria, Iraq, Arabia, Egypt etc. They were natives in any senses of the word!

As of 1896, notwithstanding the European invasion of Jews, indigenous non-Jews were still 50% of the population of Jerusalem (and 95% of the population of Palestine) as confirmed in a unique period film:

 

[DriftingSand]

Historical facts fly in the face of those who claim: "The Jews stole the land".

The "land" was Ottoman Empire territory for 600 years, and then under the control of the British after WWI once the Ottoman Empire collapsed.

Get it right, the Arabs had no say or control over what happened to the land for 800 years. In fact, the Ottomans who CONQUERED the Arabs were enemies:

You are hilarious. You post a little mickey mouse map and deny the facts as reported in the Survey of Palestine prepared for the UN as the official record of the Mandatory prior to partition.


"6. The estimated total population has increased in the 15 years from 1922 to the middle of 1937, by 631,272 persons. The increase is due to immigration and to the excess of births over deaths, the allocation of the total increases between these two factors being estimated to be as follows:--

	All religions.	Moslems.	Jews.	Christians.	Others.
Total increase of population Increase by migration Natural increase	631,272 281,339 349,933	286,770 25,168 261,602	302,294 245,433 56,861	38,305 10,414 27,891	3,903 324 3,579

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1937

1937! Ha ha ha! You are a joke. That would be after the third wave of Arab Muslim invasions.

That map is 100% accurate. Unless you can show me a map that calls the land "Palestinian / Arab Empire"....you are shit outta luck and doing nothing but pissing in the wind.

Read ma lips, Arabs never owned the land.

The end.

Exactly!

During the 1800s the land was sparsely populated, but even then Jerusalem had a Jewish majority. That is a fact. During the late 1800s the Jews started to return. Jewish communities were starting the transformation of the "flower in the desert!" With this economic revival brought along Arab squatters. In fact Tel Aviv was founded in 1909 when the land was still under Ottoman Rule.

Then came the British Rule in 1914 after WW I. During this time the Jews were forbidden to immigrate to the lands, yes Muslims could immigrate without even getting their bags checked. During this time it was the vast majority of the people who call themselves Palestinians came to the lands. The narrative that the Muslim revisionist state that most were on the lands for centuries was a great lie! Most came from Syria, Iraq, Arabia, Egypt etc. They were natives in any senses of the word!

As of 1896, notwithstanding the European invasion of Jews, indigenous non-Jews were still 50% of the population of Jerusalem (and 95% of the population of Palestine) as confirmed in a unique period film:

Interesting.

 

[Roudy]

Historical facts fly in the face of those who claim: "The Jews stole the land".

The "land" was Ottoman Empire territory for 600 years, and then under the control of the British after WWI once the Ottoman Empire collapsed.

Get it right, the Arabs had no say or control over what happened to the land for 800 years. In fact, the Ottomans who CONQUERED the Arabs were enemies:

I wonder who drew the map. I'm sure that the Arabs would present a completely different picture. History can be whatever its author says it is. There were always be more than one side to a story but there is only one TRUTH!

Idiot, this is a map of the Ottoman Empire at the time. Are you trying to change world history now? Ha ha ha.

 

[Roudy]

Historical facts fly in the face of those who claim: "The Jews stole the land".

The "land" was Ottoman Empire territory for 600 years, and then under the control of the British after WWI once the Ottoman Empire collapsed.

Get it right, the Arabs had no say or control over what happened to the land for 800 years. In fact, the Ottomans who CONQUERED the Arabs were enemies:

You are hilarious. You post a little mickey mouse map and deny the facts as reported in the Survey of Palestine prepared for the UN as the official record of the Mandatory prior to partition.


"6. The estimated total population has increased in the 15 years from 1922 to the middle of 1937, by 631,272 persons. The increase is due to immigration and to the excess of births over deaths, the allocation of the total increases between these two factors being estimated to be as follows:--

	All religions.	Moslems.	Jews.	Christians.	Others.
Total increase of population Increase by migration Natural increase	631,272 281,339 349,933	286,770 25,168 261,602	302,294 245,433 56,861	38,305 10,414 27,891	3,903 324 3,579

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1937

1937! Ha ha ha! You are a joke. That would be after the third wave of Arab Muslim invasions.

That map is 100% accurate. Unless you can show me a map that calls the land "Palestinian / Arab Empire"....you are shit outta luck and doing nothing but pissing in the wind.

Read ma lips, Arabs never owned the land.

The end.

Exactly!

During the 1800s the land was sparsely populated, but even then Jerusalem had a Jewish majority. That is a fact. During the late 1800s the Jews started to return. Jewish communities were starting the transformation of the "flower in the desert!" With this economic revival brought along Arab squatters. In fact Tel Aviv was founded in 1909 when the land was still under Ottoman Rule.

Then came the British Rule in 1914 after WW I. During this time the Jews were forbidden to immigrate to the lands, yes Muslims could immigrate without even getting their bags checked. During this time it was the vast majority of the people who call themselves Palestinians came to the lands. The narrative that the Muslim revisionist state that most were on the lands for centuries was a great lie! Most came from Syria, Iraq, Arabia, Egypt etc. They were natives in any senses of the word!

As of 1896, notwithstanding the European invasion of Jews, indigenous non-Jews were still 50% of the population of Jerusalem (and 95% of the population of Palestine) as confirmed in a unique period film:

And yet, despite the propaganda clip you presented, in 1896 Jews were the majority in Jerusalem, not the invading Arab squatters. You keep failing at every turn. Ha ha ha.

 

[Roudy]

Actually, I proved you wrong. And you admitted it. . . .

You haven't proven a thing at all. I admitted to using a wrong figure, that is all. So let's keep my question very simple so that you can give one simple straight answer.

How do you figure adding some 200k+ from over 500k people is a 'natural' increase.

He added Jordan,where Arab Palestine was supposed to be, into the numbers. LOL

It is so easy to make a fool of you. You should read the reports before commenting. The first paragraph, quoted below, defines the boundaries of the area covered by the report. One of the boundaries (on the east) is Trans-Jordan. Now, I don't want your head to blow up but, how can a land that is a boundary of the land being covered by a report, be included in the report? Again, careful, don't think so hard.

"Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between latitude 30° N. and 33° N., Longitude 34° 30 E. and 35° 30' E.

On the south-west it is bounded by Egyptian territory, on the south-east by the Gulf of Aqaba, on the east by Trans-Jordan, on the north by the French Mandated territories of Syria and the Lebanon, and on the west by the Mediterranean..."

. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1936

Yet you included numbers from 1922, when Jordan was included. Your bullshit numbers are all over the place. Now who is the false propagandist who is a fool.

No, Trans Jordan was not included in 1922. In fact, Trans-Jordan was specifically excluded. Why do you continue making a fool of yourself.

" The Order in Council also contains a provision that it shall not apply to the Transjordan territory."

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations 31 December 1922

THE DIVISION OF THE MANDATE FOR PALESTINE

In 1923 the British "chopped off" 75% of the proposed Jewish Palestinian homeland to form an Arab Palestinian Nation of "Trans-Jordan," meaning "across the Jordan River." The Palestinian Arabs now had THEIR homeland... the remaining 25% of the original Palestinian territory (west of the Jordan River) was to be the Jewish Palestinian homeland. However, sharing was not part of the Arab psychological makeup then or now and they were determined to get ALL of that remaining 25%. Encouraged and incited by growing Arab nationalism throughout the Middle East, the Arabs of that small remaining Palestinian territory launched never-ending murderous attacks upon the Jewish Palestinians in an effort to drive them out. Most terrifying were the Hebron slaughters of 1929 and later the 1936-39 "Arab Revolt." The British, at first tried to maintain order but soon (due to the large oil deposits being discovered throughout the Arab Middle East) turned a blind eye. It became obvious to the Palestinian Jews that they must fight the Arabs AND drive out the British.

 

[Roudy]

Historical facts fly in the face of those who claim: "The Jews stole the land".

The "land" was Ottoman Empire territory for 600 years, and then under the control of the British after WWI once the Ottoman Empire collapsed.

Get it right, the Arabs had no say or control over what happened to the land for 800 years. In fact, the Ottomans who CONQUERED the Arabs were enemies:

You are hilarious. You post a little mickey mouse map and deny the facts as reported in the Survey of Palestine prepared for the UN as the official record of the Mandatory prior to partition.


"6. The estimated total population has increased in the 15 years from 1922 to the middle of 1937, by 631,272 persons. The increase is due to immigration and to the excess of births over deaths, the allocation of the total increases between these two factors being estimated to be as follows:--

	All religions.	Moslems.	Jews.	Christians.	Others.
Total increase of population Increase by migration Natural increase	631,272 281,339 349,933	286,770 25,168 261,602	302,294 245,433 56,861	38,305 10,414 27,891	3,903 324 3,579

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1937

1937! Ha ha ha! You are a joke. That would be after the third wave of Arab Muslim invasions.

That map is 100% accurate. Unless you can show me a map that calls the land "Palestinian / Arab Empire"....you are shit outta luck and doing nothing but pissing in the wind.

Read ma lips, Arabs never owned the land.

The end.

Exactly!

During the 1800s the land was sparsely populated, but even then Jerusalem had a Jewish majority. That is a fact. During the late 1800s the Jews started to return. Jewish communities were starting the transformation of the "flower in the desert!" With this economic revival brought along Arab squatters. In fact Tel Aviv was founded in 1909 when the land was still under Ottoman Rule.

Then came the British Rule in 1914 after WW I. During this time the Jews were forbidden to immigrate to the lands, yes Muslims could immigrate without even getting their bags checked. During this time it was the vast majority of the people who call themselves Palestinians came to the lands. The narrative that the Muslim revisionist state that most were on the lands for centuries was a great lie! Most came from Syria, Iraq, Arabia, Egypt etc. They were natives in any senses of the word!

As of 1896, notwithstanding the European invasion of Jews, indigenous non-Jews were still 50% of the population of Jerusalem (and 95% of the population of Palestine) as confirmed in a unique period film:

1896 video shows Jewish majority in Jerusalem:

 

[montelatici]

You haven't proven a thing at all. I admitted to using a wrong figure, that is all. So let's keep my question very simple so that you can give one simple straight answer.

How do you figure adding some 200k+ from over 500k people is a 'natural' increase.

He added Jordan,where Arab Palestine was supposed to be, into the numbers. LOL

It is so easy to make a fool of you. You should read the reports before commenting. The first paragraph, quoted below, defines the boundaries of the area covered by the report. One of the boundaries (on the east) is Trans-Jordan. Now, I don't want your head to blow up but, how can a land that is a boundary of the land being covered by a report, be included in the report? Again, careful, don't think so hard.

"Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between latitude 30° N. and 33° N., Longitude 34° 30 E. and 35° 30' E.

On the south-west it is bounded by Egyptian territory, on the south-east by the Gulf of Aqaba, on the east by Trans-Jordan, on the north by the French Mandated territories of Syria and the Lebanon, and on the west by the Mediterranean..."

. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1936

Yet you included numbers from 1922, when Jordan was included. Your bullshit numbers are all over the place. Now who is the false propagandist who is a fool.

No, Trans Jordan was not included in 1922. In fact, Trans-Jordan was specifically excluded. Why do you continue making a fool of yourself.

" The Order in Council also contains a provision that it shall not apply to the Transjordan territory."

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations 31 December 1922

THE DIVISION OF THE MANDATE FOR PALESTINE

In 1923 the British "chopped off" 75% of the proposed Jewish Palestinian homeland to form an Arab Palestinian Nation of "Trans-Jordan," meaning "across the Jordan River." The Palestinian Arabs now had THEIR homeland... the remaining 25% of the original Palestinian territory (west of the Jordan River) was to be the Jewish Palestinian homeland. However, sharing was not part of the Arab psychological makeup then or now and they were determined to get ALL of that remaining 25%. Encouraged and incited by growing Arab nationalism throughout the Middle East, the Arabs of that small remaining Palestinian territory launched never-ending murderous attacks upon the Jewish Palestinians in an effort to drive them out. Most terrifying were the Hebron slaughters of 1929 and later the 1936-39 "Arab Revolt." The British, at first tried to maintain order but soon (due to the large oil deposits being discovered throughout the Arab Middle East) turned a blind eye. It became obvious to the Palestinian Jews that they must fight the Arabs AND drive out the British.

Why do you post Zionist propaganda and opinion. I posted links to official documents which say what they say. Trans-Jordan was a separate territory that had nothing to do with Palestine territorially. You can ahead and make things up all you want. You are wrong and are making a fool of yourself.

 

[Saigon]

I have never understood why supporting Israel on this board seems to be synonymous with lying.

For anyone who genuinely cares about Israel and Israeli people it is hugely dispiriting to see them sold down the river by people who consider the entire conflict little more than a childrens sandpit game. A game in which their own lives are never at stake.

There is a lot of dishonesty and distortion on the Palestinian side of history, some of which we see on this board, but there is nothing like the systematic allergy to truth, facts and honesty that we see from Israeli 'supporters' here.

It's always been my hope that more Israelis would urge them to stop, but instead I think it just means few Israelis actually want to post here.

 

[Saigon]

Why do you post Zionist propaganda and opinion. I posted links to official documents which say what they say. Trans-Jordan was a separate territory that had nothing to do with Palestine territorially. You can ahead and make things up all you want. You are wrong and are making a fool of yourself.

Exactly...and don't think Roudy is unaware of this, either.

Most of the distortion and lying here is very deliberate, and there is no way you'll ever get him to debate the topic honestly or sensibly.

 

[Saigon]

For anyone interested in the facts, this is a pretty good starting point:

According to Alexander Scholch, Palestine in 1850 had about 350,000 inhabitants, 30% of whom lived in 13 towns; roughly 85% were Muslims, 11% were Christians and 4% Jews[24]

There is an excellent table here, but I'm having trouble C&Ping it without it resetting itself into a format that is hard to read:

Demographics of Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Roudy]

He added Jordan,where Arab Palestine was supposed to be, into the numbers. LOL

It is so easy to make a fool of you. You should read the reports before commenting. The first paragraph, quoted below, defines the boundaries of the area covered by the report. One of the boundaries (on the east) is Trans-Jordan. Now, I don't want your head to blow up but, how can a land that is a boundary of the land being covered by a report, be included in the report? Again, careful, don't think so hard.

"Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between latitude 30° N. and 33° N., Longitude 34° 30 E. and 35° 30' E.

On the south-west it is bounded by Egyptian territory, on the south-east by the Gulf of Aqaba, on the east by Trans-Jordan, on the north by the French Mandated territories of Syria and the Lebanon, and on the west by the Mediterranean..."

. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1936

Yet you included numbers from 1922, when Jordan was included. Your bullshit numbers are all over the place. Now who is the false propagandist who is a fool.

No, Trans Jordan was not included in 1922. In fact, Trans-Jordan was specifically excluded. Why do you continue making a fool of yourself.

" The Order in Council also contains a provision that it shall not apply to the Transjordan territory."

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations 31 December 1922

THE DIVISION OF THE MANDATE FOR PALESTINE

In 1923 the British "chopped off" 75% of the proposed Jewish Palestinian homeland to form an Arab Palestinian Nation of "Trans-Jordan," meaning "across the Jordan River." The Palestinian Arabs now had THEIR homeland... the remaining 25% of the original Palestinian territory (west of the Jordan River) was to be the Jewish Palestinian homeland. However, sharing was not part of the Arab psychological makeup then or now and they were determined to get ALL of that remaining 25%. Encouraged and incited by growing Arab nationalism throughout the Middle East, the Arabs of that small remaining Palestinian territory launched never-ending murderous attacks upon the Jewish Palestinians in an effort to drive them out. Most terrifying were the Hebron slaughters of 1929 and later the 1936-39 "Arab Revolt." The British, at first tried to maintain order but soon (due to the large oil deposits being discovered throughout the Arab Middle East) turned a blind eye. It became obvious to the Palestinian Jews that they must fight the Arabs AND drive out the British.

Why do you post Zionist propaganda and opinion. I posted links to official documents which say what they say. Trans-Jordan was a separate territory that had nothing to do with Palestine territorially. You can ahead and make things up all you want. You are wrong and are making a fool of yourself.

You should be the one to speak about propaganda, most of the board considers you the Baghdad Bob of Hamas, silly man.

 

[Roudy]

For anyone interested in the facts, this is a pretty good starting point:

According to Alexander Scholch, Palestine in 1850 had about 350,000 inhabitants, 30% of whom lived in 13 towns; roughly 85% were Muslims, 11% were Christians and 4% Jews[24]

There is an excellent table here, but I'm having trouble C&Ping it without it resetting itself into a format that is hard to read:

Demographics of Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Demographic Shmemographic. The land was Ottoman territory and the Arabs had no say in land that did not belong to them. Period.

 

[Roudy]

I have never understood why supporting Israel on this board seems to be synonymous with lying.

For anyone who genuinely cares about Israel and Israeli people it is hugely dispiriting to see them sold down the river by people who consider the entire conflict little more than a childrens sandpit game. A game in which their own lives are never at stake.

There is a lot of dishonesty and distortion on the Palestinian side of history, some of which we see on this board, but there is nothing like the systematic allergy to truth, facts and honesty that we see from Israeli 'supporters' here.

It's always been my hope that more Israelis would urge them to stop, but instead I think it just means few Israelis actually want to post here.

Pali terrorist ass kissers come in all sizes and shapes, in the case of Saigooon his shtick is posing as an Israeli supporter. Ha ha ha.

 

[montelatici]

It is so easy to make a fool of you. You should read the reports before commenting. The first paragraph, quoted below, defines the boundaries of the area covered by the report. One of the boundaries (on the east) is Trans-Jordan. Now, I don't want your head to blow up but, how can a land that is a boundary of the land being covered by a report, be included in the report? Again, careful, don't think so hard.

"Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between latitude 30° N. and 33° N., Longitude 34° 30 E. and 35° 30' E.

On the south-west it is bounded by Egyptian territory, on the south-east by the Gulf of Aqaba, on the east by Trans-Jordan, on the north by the French Mandated territories of Syria and the Lebanon, and on the west by the Mediterranean..."

. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1936

Yet you included numbers from 1922, when Jordan was included. Your bullshit numbers are all over the place. Now who is the false propagandist who is a fool.

No, Trans Jordan was not included in 1922. In fact, Trans-Jordan was specifically excluded. Why do you continue making a fool of yourself.

" The Order in Council also contains a provision that it shall not apply to the Transjordan territory."

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations 31 December 1922

THE DIVISION OF THE MANDATE FOR PALESTINE

In 1923 the British "chopped off" 75% of the proposed Jewish Palestinian homeland to form an Arab Palestinian Nation of "Trans-Jordan," meaning "across the Jordan River." The Palestinian Arabs now had THEIR homeland... the remaining 25% of the original Palestinian territory (west of the Jordan River) was to be the Jewish Palestinian homeland. However, sharing was not part of the Arab psychological makeup then or now and they were determined to get ALL of that remaining 25%. Encouraged and incited by growing Arab nationalism throughout the Middle East, the Arabs of that small remaining Palestinian territory launched never-ending murderous attacks upon the Jewish Palestinians in an effort to drive them out. Most terrifying were the Hebron slaughters of 1929 and later the 1936-39 "Arab Revolt." The British, at first tried to maintain order but soon (due to the large oil deposits being discovered throughout the Arab Middle East) turned a blind eye. It became obvious to the Palestinian Jews that they must fight the Arabs AND drive out the British.

Why do you post Zionist propaganda and opinion. I posted links to official documents which say what they say. Trans-Jordan was a separate territory that had nothing to do with Palestine territorially. You can ahead and make things up all you want. You are wrong and are making a fool of yourself.

You should be the one to speak about propaganda, most of the board considers you the Baghdad Bob of Hamas, silly man.

That's better. You finally realize you are better off shutting up about the issue and hurl personal insults. It kind of gives you an honorable way out after looking like such a fool. By the way, most of board knows that my position is consistent with the official record and my assertions are always confirmed by the official historical record. I don't do propaganda like you do.

 

[Saigon]

Roudy -

Yeah...I'm an Israeli supporter who lived 1500 metres from Lebanon during the Lebanon War, and six kms from Syria, and who has been back to the Middle East a dozen times since then.

I believe that Israel has a cast iron historical claim to land, and I believe its future lies in setting an ethical standard for the region; encouraging Palestinians to work with Israelis for a carrot, and moving away from simply beating them with sticks.

I also believe that your constant and deliberate lying, distorting and childish abuse undermine Israel and Israel's goals, because you make Israelis look like liars, fools and thieves. I am very relieved that I know most Israeli would fnd you as embarassing as I do.

 

[montelatici]

For anyone interested in the facts, this is a pretty good starting point:

According to Alexander Scholch, Palestine in 1850 had about 350,000 inhabitants, 30% of whom lived in 13 towns; roughly 85% were Muslims, 11% were Christians and 4% Jews[24]

There is an excellent table here, but I'm having trouble C&Ping it without it resetting itself into a format that is hard to read:

Demographics of Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Demographic Shmemographic. The land was Ottoman territory and the Arabs had no say in land that did not belong to them. Period.

As the record shows. The Arabs owned more than 90% of Palestine in 1943, as confirmed by the per-partition survey of Palestine commissioned by the United Nations in order to validate the historical record. Of course, after partition the Zionist propaganda started up attempting to muddy the waters.

 

[Roudy]

Scream and holler all you want Jordan was indeed part of the British Palestine mandate and designated as Arab Palestine by League of Nations while West of the Jordan river was to be Jewish Palestine aka Israel. You quoted numbers for 1922 and I pointed that in 1922 those numbers included Jordan. Then you posted a lame video of 1896 and I pointed out that in 1896 Jews were majority population in Jerusalem. So then you jumped to 1937 with a stupid chart which didn't account for the British encouraged massive Arab invasion into Israel at the time.

In short you failed at every turn. You couldn't show any Arab control of the land for 700 years, you couldn't refute the fact that Jerusalem had a majority Jewish population late 1800's.

 

[Roudy]

Roudy -

Yeah...I'm an Israeli supporter who lived 1500 metres from Lebanon during the Lebanon War, and six kms from Syria, and who has been back to the Middle East a dozen times since then.

I believe that Israel has a cast iron historical claim to land, and I believe its future lies in setting an ethical standard for the region; encouraging Palestinians to work with Israelis for a carrot, and moving away from simply beating them with sticks.

I also believe that your constant and deliberate lying, distorting and childish abuse undermine Israel and Israel's goals, because you make Israelis look like liars, fools and thieves. I am very relieved that I know most Israeli would fnd you as embarassing as I do.

And you've been proven an ignoramus and a liar at every turn. Last we saw of you, you whined your way off the board.

So you show posts on this board to Israelis and ask their opinion? Ha ha ha. OMG. That is an obvious lie and if not then you are a bum with too much time on your hands.

 

[Saigon]

Roudy -

Two excellent sets of data have been posted in #70 and #76.

So far you have addressed neither of them coherently nor honestly.

By all means prove my earlier assertions wrong and actually mount an honest case, or admit that both sets of data are actually accurate. Obviously you know that they are...the only question is whether you can be honest.


btw. I spent the summer in Tanzania. Not a lot of WiFi where I was living, hence no posting.

 

[Roudy]

For anyone interested in the facts, this is a pretty good starting point:

According to Alexander Scholch, Palestine in 1850 had about 350,000 inhabitants, 30% of whom lived in 13 towns; roughly 85% were Muslims, 11% were Christians and 4% Jews[24]

There is an excellent table here, but I'm having trouble C&Ping it without it resetting itself into a format that is hard to read:

Demographics of Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Demographic Shmemographic. The land was Ottoman territory and the Arabs had no say in land that did not belong to them. Period.

As the record shows. The Arabs owned more than 90% of Palestine in 1943, as confirmed by the per-partition survey of Palestine commissioned by the United Nations in order to validate the historical record. Of course, after partition the Zionist propaganda started up attempting to muddy the waters.

View attachment 32911

Again with the bogus irrelevant chart from a Mooslim propaganda site showing Jews being forced to pay double tax for Arab invaders. Ha ha ha.