"Make America Great Again"...what do you think it means?

[Grumblenuts]

That probably sounded better in Russian when you thought of it

What are you talking about? Don't know any Russian. I'm mostly Pennsylvania Dutch, not that it matters.

 

[beautress]

I think this slogan, borrowed from Reagan is one of the most wonderful ideas put on the political table in the past 50 years. America's been through good and bad times through all that, and it's still a place people are clawing and digging to get into as we speak.

USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!​

Groundhogs and dogs are most suggested by "clawing and digging" along with small mammals, rodents, or vermin more generally. Never "people". Except you maybe.

Thank you for putting me on a level with St. Francis of Assisi, but I'm just a humble senior widow who stays home a lot, prays for peace in the world every night, and keeps her fingernails short so she can not scratch the cotton materials as she makes her humble little quilt for fatherless children whose mothers visit the care center to receive free medical help and advice on what to expect when their child comes, how to balance work with raising a child as single moms, and that sort of thing. I'm not even a Roman Catholic, too, but I admire St. Francis' work of caring for critters and birds fed by his gardens and parishioners who supported his works.

Claws, really. They'd tear my humble little cotton baby quilts to shreds.

 

[beautress]

Quote: "One Trumper even said he thought America was great during Jim Crow or before 1860."
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Oh, please, Mr. or Ms. Lesh. President Donald Trump was born in 1946, and never held a poltical office until January 20, 2017, the date he took his oath of office to provide for the common defense. All of a sudden his supporters became a subhuman species, clawing and clutching and classified in disdain by losers as "Trumpers." OK. Can I have a MAGA hat, too? Oh, wait, I have to save $8,000 to pay county road and local school taxes for my tiny farm by December 31 of this year. And I have a more than half of my social security check this month going to insurance on my truck and a third of it will go to the power company because it was the coldest February on record. Gasoline just went up 30% here, so it's beans and cornbread and OTC medicines instead of pharmacy stuff for health care. 10% already went to my church and is always paid first. I got nothin left to buy a MAGA hat with even though I'd wear it if it had a sunbonnet visor on it.

Trumper? Well, they get some of my time when my neck muscles get tight over sitting in front of a sewing machine a few hours a day for the care center. lol

 

[beautress]

That probably sounded better in Russian when you thought of it

What are you talking about? Don't know any Russian. I'm mostly Pennsylvania Dutch, not that it matters.

You are? My grandpa always said we were "Holland Dutch." Our forefather landed on Plymouth Rock on the Mayflower's voyage to Massachusetts. Don't mind Lesh. He or she is very radicalized toward socialism. You never know what is gonna be said there.

 

[skews13]

I've noticed Liberals can become quite offended by the phrase and I can't for the life of me figure out why such a thing could be considered offensive to a real American.
The meaning and implication to me is clear....there were times when this country was better than it is today...let's work toward becoming the type of citizens we were during those times.
Why does that notion suck again?

Libs don’t become offended. Mental midgets like you do which explains this post.

Libs are however shocked and amazed that easily led around by the nose fools like you exist.

 

[Grumblenuts]

beautress Ah, I think I see where you've gone askew:

On October 4, people all over the world will be celebrating the feast day of the Patron Saint of Animals, Saint Francis of Assisi. It's customary that in remembrance of St. Francis of Assisi's love for all creatures, animals are led to churches for a special ceremony called the “Blessing of the Animals.” - wikipedia/peta.org

You've somehow concluded that I was accusing you of loving all animals. BIG hint; uh, no, that's not it. Not even close.

One pointing out that some rats have clawed their way into a box of stale Cheerios does not make the Cheerios good. It definitely makes the rats appear desperate though. Perhaps really trying to explain why you feel this MAGA slogan "is one of the most wonderful ideas put on the political table in the past 50 years" might be helpful? Is it because you remain a big Reagan fan?

 

[Grumblenuts]

Don't mind Lesh.

I don't mind him. Just wondering what he was thinking. I always like to kid around, but not until things at least begin making sense.

 

[beautress]

beautress Ah, I think I see where you've gone askew:

On October 4, people all over the world will be celebrating the feast day of the Patron Saint of Animals, Saint Francis of Assisi. It's customary that in remembrance of St. Francis of Assisi's love for all creatures, animals are led to churches for a special ceremony called the “Blessing of the Animals.” - wikipedia/peta.org

You've somehow concluded that I was accusing you of loving all animals. BIG hint; uh, no, that's not it. Not even close.

One pointing out that some rats have clawed their way into a box of stale Cheerios does not make the Cheerios good. It definitely makes the rats appear desperate though. Perhaps really trying to explain why you feel this MAGA slogan "is one of the most wonderful ideas put on the political table in the past 50 years" might be helpful? Is it because you remain a big Reagan fan?

Actually, I held a neutral view of President Reagan because his wife turned my stomach for some reason. But I liked him because he reached across the aisle to both Democrat and Republican. And when I married my husband in 1971, I promised I would never cancel his Republican voting, although I was pretty neutral most of my life politically. I can't stand feminazis whether they be male or female. I can't stand the thought of the 58 million unborn American citizens being never given the privilege of breathing fresh air when the time came after Roe v. Wade. I count those figures along with the 100 million the Chinese killed while nobody was looking in WWII and the unaccounted for number of Russians who met a similar fate under Stalin. I even stayed away from church for a couple of months to get over the Feminazis in the surrounding pews populating our traditionally balanced session with banner all-girl sessions. I was right, because the church population dwindled from a full house to sparsely populated pews on Sunday, so I apparently wasn't the only one who hated what Feminazis discouraged church males from participation in ruling the church. I'm back but only because I promised my Grandpa I'd always attend the family church.

Oh, and I do love animals and their diversity. If you do not think so, you haven't seen my ornithology, Lepidoptera, and ocean diversity of sea animals threads, which were relegated to the Garage area of our dear USMB boards. I get a charge out of mammals, too, but I haven't started that thread yet. I guess it's because I have a 4.5"-thick book on Animals in full color that I got for a song on Amazon.com. lol

 

[Grumblenuts]

Everyone loves animals. Hell, we are animals. Again, perhaps really trying to explain why you feel this MAGA slogan "is one of the most wonderful ideas put on the political table in the past 50 years" might be helpful?

Corollaries or logical deductions from:"Make America Great Again"
"America is not great" - Why not?
"America used to be great" - When? How?
How exactly did a Reagan or Trump presidency promise to improve our circumstances "most wonderful"ly?

 

[Fang]

I've noticed Liberals can become quite offended by the phrase and I can't for the life of me figure out why such a thing could be considered offensive to a real American. The meaning and implication to me is clear....there were times when this country was better than it is today...let's work toward becoming the type citizens we were during those times. Why does that notion suck again?

I'm offended by people who don't think America is great right now. If you don't think so, find someplace better to live.

"For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country"

- Michelle Obama

I guess you were offended then also.

 

[jc456]

That probably sounded better in Russian when you thought of it

What are you talking about? Don't know any Russian. I'm mostly Pennsylvania Dutch, not that it matters.

i didn't know russia founded our nation. funny how these projectionists use russia all the time. they are buttered up with russia.

 

[Pogo]

I've noticed Liberals can become quite offended by the phrase and I can't for the life of me figure out why such a thing could be considered offensive to a real American. The meaning and implication to me is clear....there were times when this country was better than it is today...let's work toward becoming the type citizens we were during those times. Why does that notion suck again?

I'm offended by people who don't think America is great right now. If you don't think so, find someplace better to live.

"For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country"

- Michelle Obama

I guess you were offended then also.

Why would that be "offensive" to anyone but a Jingoist?

 

[Lesh]

That probably sounded better in Russian when you thought of it

What are you talking about? Don't know any Russian. I'm mostly Pennsylvania Dutch, not that it matters.

i didn't know russia founded our nation. funny how these projectionists use russia all the time. they are buttered up with russia.

Yea..because Russia didn't interfere in our election in 2016...and 2018...and according to our intel folks are ramping up that effort for 2020

 

[Lesh]

I think this slogan, borrowed from Reagan is one of the most wonderful ideas put on the political table in the past 50 years. America's been through good and bad times through all that, and it's still a place people are clawing and digging to get into as we speak.

USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!​

Groundhogs and dogs are most suggested by "clawing and digging" along with small mammals, rodents, or vermin more generally. Never "people". Except you maybe.

Thank you for putting me on a level with St. Francis of Assisi, but I'm just a humble senior widow who stays home a lot, prays for peace in the world every night, and keeps her fingernails short so she can not scratch the cotton materials as she makes her humble little quilt for fatherless children whose mothers visit the care center to receive free medical help and advice on what to expect when their child comes, how to balance work with raising a child as single moms, and that sort of thing. I'm not even a Roman Catholic, too, but I admire St. Francis' work of caring for critters and birds fed by his gardens and parishioners who supported his works.

Claws, really. They'd tear my humble little cotton baby quilts to shreds.

How does someone so "saintly" end up sounding so hateful so often?

 

[easyt65]

"Make America Great Again"...what do you think it means?

Strongest economy in decades.
Lowest unemployment rate in decades.
Lowest minority unemployment in recorded history
Most Americans working at 1 time
Millions of Americans back to work, off food stamps / welfare / etc...
Manufacturing jobs Obama said were gone for good coming back to the US, bringing jobs
Oppressive Job-Killing Obama regulations gone
Higher wages, raises, bonuses
Record Stock Market
Better Trade Deals for Americans
Allies / NATO pulling their own financial weight
Americans being held abroad returned to the US w/out the US having to pay ransoms
No President financing/arming/training/supplying/defending/protecting/helping terrorists take over their own country
No President committing International War Crimes by invading other countries to help terrorists oust a ruler
No administration arming Mexican Drug Cartels, protecting illegal HAMAS Drug Operations
No administration illegally targeting US citizens with the IRS
No administration illegally spying on US citizens, reporters, the media, the US Senate, and USSC Justices
No administrations abandoning US citizens to needlessly die
No President violating both Constitution and Law, attempting to make personal EDICTS the 'Law of the Land'


....now if he could just get the new DOJ to deal with all the existing evidence of Democrat crimes. If the DOJ is waiting for the Trump investigations to end 1st, the traitors will keep their investigations going to run out the clock - until Trump leaves office - so save their own asses.

 

[easyt65]

Yea..because Russia didn't interfere in our election in 2016...and 2018...and according to our intel folks are ramping up that effort for 2020

How interesting that you completely leave out how Russian 'Interference started on Barry's watch in 2014and he did nothing about it...and how a billionaire Hillary donor was exposed as being behind much of the Fake News / False reporting that the Russians were helping Republicans in these elections.

 

[Lesh]

All of a sudden his supporters became a subhuman species,

Nope...just wrong, defensive, and far too often racist

 

[Lesh]

Yea..because Russia didn't interfere in our election in 2016...and 2018...and according to our intel folks are ramping up that effort for 2020

How interesting that you completely leave out how Russian 'Interference started on Barry's watch in 2014and he did nothing about it...and how a billionaire Hillary donor was exposed as being behind much of the Fake News / False reporting that the Russians were helping Republicans in these elections.

Save your fantasies and bullshit. We all know it's just "something to say" that even you don't really believe

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

The meaning and implication to me is clear....there were times when this country was better than it is today...let's work toward becoming the type of citizens we were during those times.
Why does that notion suck again?

The opinion of a Cult45 troll is about as useful as a crocheted condom.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I liked him [Reagan] because he reached across the aisle to both Democrat and Republican.

Democrats and Republicans exist to lend one another legitimacy. Exactly two Parties, no other shall be recognized. Didn't exactly start out that way, but it sure is the case today. Therefore, someone "reaching across the aisle" - as Obama and Bill Clinton did so much more effectively than a Reagan, Bush, or Trump could ever dream of, is actually just embracing the other half of the problem. Naturally, that just leads to more of the same problems. Getting legislation passed does not actually equate to making progress or getting good things done as is so widely advertised. Real progress only results from the people forcing their will upon the government. Voting certainly helps, but it's a very slow, indirect route. When the proverbial crap hits the fan, as it plainly has with Trump many times now, it's time to act quickly... before millions more are rendered worthless and rubbed out by the shock troops..