Low Information Voters versus Dimwitted Voters

[flacaltenn]

Draw a Venn Diagram. Our Republic is a sub-set form of democracy.. And your comment about understanding the Constitution should be left to elected representatives is APPALLING..

If you want manipulated automatons with no knowledge of how America got here to be the dominant voting block, you will end UP with a true Democracy. And that's not actually a good thing. Because the government already SUCKS WADS at 87% of the things that they do.. And PANDERING to voters is easier than actually fixing problems. THAT ---- is a large part of our CURRENT problem..

When very few people vote then if I were a politician I would only worry about what the Rich lobbyist want me to do I wouldn't even worry about the voters because I know only voters are the rich people who want the status quo and that's Republican

Low information people vote when they personally want something. Or they vote when the Govt steps on THEIR toes, or they vote because there's a cool and trendy angle to the election.

They don't vote because they are personally responsible for PARTICIPATING in govt. But voting without PARTICIPATION in the process, without an investment in understanding ALL the lying from BOTH sides is not admirable..

You want less corporate and special interest participation? LIMIT the government back to the few powers that they are ACTUALLY responsible. It's the POWER they have stolen stupid,, not the money..

If they couldn't pander and gift out to corporations and special interests -- Money wouldn't flow..
They can't even launch a website or protect 20Million employees from having their life records stolen by the Chinese. This is same govt that RENEWED Mohammed Attah's visa AFTER 9-11. No wonder the voting process is so lousy in this country. There's no attention to what govt is SUPPOSED to be doing.

And having MORONS without skin (brains) in the game voting just to run up the numbers -- Is just gonna make all that worse. REGARDLESS of whether they vote for Repubs or Dems..

Look at you. As much information as you have you still vote wrong. So I don't know what the problem is if more people show up and vote there hunch their heart or their gut

You have no idea how I vote. Most my adult life has been spent defeating the monopoly of the Dems and Repubs and working towards 3rd party parity.

"vote their hunch, their hearts, or their gut"..... Seems you left out their brains, principles and conscience.. I said a general gut reaction to a direction they didn't like is OK.... but I refuse to give up hope that they've actually STUDIED the issues and are PARTICIPATING from evidence --- not feelings or criminal political lying and manipulation...

Let me guess. Teabagger or Libertarian

Lemme guess -- Progressive with no actual party to represent you or Socialist pillager in the same boat?

 

[sealybobo]

When very few people vote then if I were a politician I would only worry about what the Rich lobbyist want me to do I wouldn't even worry about the voters because I know only voters are the rich people who want the status quo and that's Republican

Low information people vote when they personally want something. Or they vote when the Govt steps on THEIR toes, or they vote because there's a cool and trendy angle to the election.

They don't vote because they are personally responsible for PARTICIPATING in govt. But voting without PARTICIPATION in the process, without an investment in understanding ALL the lying from BOTH sides is not admirable..

You want less corporate and special interest participation? LIMIT the government back to the few powers that they are ACTUALLY responsible. It's the POWER they have stolen stupid,, not the money..

If they couldn't pander and gift out to corporations and special interests -- Money wouldn't flow..
They can't even launch a website or protect 20Million employees from having their life records stolen by the Chinese. This is same govt that RENEWED Mohammed Attah's visa AFTER 9-11. No wonder the voting process is so lousy in this country. There's no attention to what govt is SUPPOSED to be doing.

And having MORONS without skin (brains) in the game voting just to run up the numbers -- Is just gonna make all that worse. REGARDLESS of whether they vote for Repubs or Dems..

Look at you. As much information as you have you still vote wrong. So I don't know what the problem is if more people show up and vote there hunch their heart or their gut

You have no idea how I vote. Most my adult life has been spent defeating the monopoly of the Dems and Repubs and working towards 3rd party parity.

"vote their hunch, their hearts, or their gut"..... Seems you left out their brains, principles and conscience.. I said a general gut reaction to a direction they didn't like is OK.... but I refuse to give up hope that they've actually STUDIED the issues and are PARTICIPATING from evidence --- not feelings or criminal political lying and manipulation...

Let me guess. Teabagger or Libertarian

Libertarian -- card carrying dues paying type --- BUT --- my interest is in getting 3rd parties on the ballot NO MATTER who they are. So I've chummed with Greens and Constitution folks.. Do you realize how times the Dems and Repubs ABANDON losing races and actually don't even run a candidate for Congress? It's a crime.

So doesn't MATTER if you go to polls if the ballot is already determined by having 1 of 2 parties decide NOT to contest an election.. What kind of "voting" is that eh?

That stuff doesn't happen if everyone votes

 

[sealybobo]

When very few people vote then if I were a politician I would only worry about what the Rich lobbyist want me to do I wouldn't even worry about the voters because I know only voters are the rich people who want the status quo and that's Republican

Low information people vote when they personally want something. Or they vote when the Govt steps on THEIR toes, or they vote because there's a cool and trendy angle to the election.

They don't vote because they are personally responsible for PARTICIPATING in govt. But voting without PARTICIPATION in the process, without an investment in understanding ALL the lying from BOTH sides is not admirable..

You want less corporate and special interest participation? LIMIT the government back to the few powers that they are ACTUALLY responsible. It's the POWER they have stolen stupid,, not the money..

If they couldn't pander and gift out to corporations and special interests -- Money wouldn't flow..
They can't even launch a website or protect 20Million employees from having their life records stolen by the Chinese. This is same govt that RENEWED Mohammed Attah's visa AFTER 9-11. No wonder the voting process is so lousy in this country. There's no attention to what govt is SUPPOSED to be doing.

And having MORONS without skin (brains) in the game voting just to run up the numbers -- Is just gonna make all that worse. REGARDLESS of whether they vote for Repubs or Dems..

Look at you. As much information as you have you still vote wrong. So I don't know what the problem is if more people show up and vote there hunch their heart or their gut

You have no idea how I vote. Most my adult life has been spent defeating the monopoly of the Dems and Repubs and working towards 3rd party parity.

"vote their hunch, their hearts, or their gut"..... Seems you left out their brains, principles and conscience.. I said a general gut reaction to a direction they didn't like is OK.... but I refuse to give up hope that they've actually STUDIED the issues and are PARTICIPATING from evidence --- not feelings or criminal political lying and manipulation...

Let me guess. Teabagger or Libertarian

Lemme guess -- Progressive with no actual party to represent you or Socialist pillager in the same boat?

If enough people would show up in vote then the masses could teabag the Democratic party instead of the Koch brothers backing the Tea Party

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Omfg!!!

 

[flacaltenn]

Low information people vote when they personally want something. Or they vote when the Govt steps on THEIR toes, or they vote because there's a cool and trendy angle to the election.

They don't vote because they are personally responsible for PARTICIPATING in govt. But voting without PARTICIPATION in the process, without an investment in understanding ALL the lying from BOTH sides is not admirable..

You want less corporate and special interest participation? LIMIT the government back to the few powers that they are ACTUALLY responsible. It's the POWER they have stolen stupid,, not the money..

If they couldn't pander and gift out to corporations and special interests -- Money wouldn't flow..
They can't even launch a website or protect 20Million employees from having their life records stolen by the Chinese. This is same govt that RENEWED Mohammed Attah's visa AFTER 9-11. No wonder the voting process is so lousy in this country. There's no attention to what govt is SUPPOSED to be doing.

And having MORONS without skin (brains) in the game voting just to run up the numbers -- Is just gonna make all that worse. REGARDLESS of whether they vote for Repubs or Dems..

Look at you. As much information as you have you still vote wrong. So I don't know what the problem is if more people show up and vote there hunch their heart or their gut

You have no idea how I vote. Most my adult life has been spent defeating the monopoly of the Dems and Repubs and working towards 3rd party parity.

"vote their hunch, their hearts, or their gut"..... Seems you left out their brains, principles and conscience.. I said a general gut reaction to a direction they didn't like is OK.... but I refuse to give up hope that they've actually STUDIED the issues and are PARTICIPATING from evidence --- not feelings or criminal political lying and manipulation...

Let me guess. Teabagger or Libertarian

Libertarian -- card carrying dues paying type --- BUT --- my interest is in getting 3rd parties on the ballot NO MATTER who they are. So I've chummed with Greens and Constitution folks.. Do you realize how times the Dems and Repubs ABANDON losing races and actually don't even run a candidate for Congress? It's a crime.

So doesn't MATTER if you go to polls if the ballot is already determined by having 1 of 2 parties decide NOT to contest an election.. What kind of "voting" is that eh?

That stuff doesn't happen if everyone votes

That stuff happens no matter HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTE. You have only 2 parties and in abot 12% of races, one or the other party cuts there losses and doesnt even OFFER a candidate. In another 5% they allow a weak candidate to run with no party support or funding. Most folks dont realize there are that many uncontested Congress seats each election. 12% is MORE than the balance of power in Congress most of the time.

 

[sealybobo]

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Look at you. As much information as you have you still vote wrong. So I don't know what the problem is if more people show up and vote there hunch their heart or their gut

You have no idea how I vote. Most my adult life has been spent defeating the monopoly of the Dems and Repubs and working towards 3rd party parity.

"vote their hunch, their hearts, or their gut"..... Seems you left out their brains, principles and conscience.. I said a general gut reaction to a direction they didn't like is OK.... but I refuse to give up hope that they've actually STUDIED the issues and are PARTICIPATING from evidence --- not feelings or criminal political lying and manipulation...

Let me guess. Teabagger or Libertarian

Libertarian -- card carrying dues paying type --- BUT --- my interest is in getting 3rd parties on the ballot NO MATTER who they are. So I've chummed with Greens and Constitution folks.. Do you realize how times the Dems and Repubs ABANDON losing races and actually don't even run a candidate for Congress? It's a crime.

So doesn't MATTER if you go to polls if the ballot is already determined by having 1 of 2 parties decide NOT to contest an election.. What kind of "voting" is that eh?

That stuff doesn't happen if everyone votes

That stuff happens no matter HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTE. You have only 2 parties and in abot 12% of races, one or the other party cuts there losses and doesnt even OFFER a candidate. In another 5% they allow a weak candidate to run with no party support or funding. Most folks dont realize there are that many uncontested Congress seats each election. 12% is MORE than the balance of power in Congress most of the time.

If everyone voted a bad incumbent wouldn't even make it out of their own parties primary let alone win. And if everyone voted both parties would go after those unchallenged seats.

 

[sealybobo]

Give a 100 dollar tax break to everyone that votes on their next income tax returns. Don't want the hundred dollars? Then don't vote

 

[sealybobo]

You can read the Constitution but do you understand it? You do know Obama is a constitutional scholar and yet you don't agree with him on what the Constitution means.

 

[sealybobo]

Republicans are funny. They think they understand the constitution better than the President of the United States. And they think anybody who agrees with Obama is stupid and shouldn't vote

 

[deltex1]

Spent the holiday week listening to the Right Wing Noise Machine .. replays of Rushbo and other wingnut, echo chamber mouthpieces and let me tell you I got an education.

It seems right wing world is of the opinion that the GOP lost the Presidential election, not because of Romney or the right wing kooks that came out of the woodwork to actually help the President and Democrats (the Dems actually won seats in BOTH houses of Congress in 2012), but because of low information voters...people new to the process, first time voters and others.

Imagine a party actually running against more people voting? It's hilariously funny and sad at the same time.

I guess the GOP base thinks having information o matter how twisted or distorted makes a better voter.

Denial runs rampant, but what is worth watching is how the right wingers deal with the fact that more people are voting now...more youth, and blacks, and others who usually sit out an election

Dante predicts more victimhood for the GOP and it's base

Your thread title could have been simplified to "Liberals"

 

[deltex1]

Republicans are funny. They think they understand the constitution better than the President of the United States. And they think anybody who agrees with Obama is stupid and shouldn't vote

Not funny...just correct.

 

[whitehall]

Spent the holiday week listening to the Right Wing Noise Machine .. replays of Rushbo and other wingnut, echo chamber mouthpieces and let me tell you I got an education.

It seems right wing world is of the opinion that the GOP lost the Presidential election, not because of Romney or the right wing kooks that came out of the woodwork to actually help the President and Democrats (the Dems actually won seats in BOTH houses of Congress in 2012), but because of low information voters...people new to the process, first time voters and others.

Imagine a party actually running against more people voting? It's hilariously funny and sad at the same time.

I guess the GOP base thinks having information o matter how twisted or distorted makes a better voter.

Denial runs rampant, but what is worth watching is how the right wingers deal with the fact that more people are voting now...more youth, and blacks, and others who usually sit out an election

Dante predicts more victimhood for the GOP and it's base

The GOP won the biggest mid term landslide in history but the desperate left reminds us only of the fact that "democrats actually won seats". If that's not a twisted blend of distorted information nothing is.

 

[sealybobo]

Spent the holiday week listening to the Right Wing Noise Machine .. replays of Rushbo and other wingnut, echo chamber mouthpieces and let me tell you I got an education.

It seems right wing world is of the opinion that the GOP lost the Presidential election, not because of Romney or the right wing kooks that came out of the woodwork to actually help the President and Democrats (the Dems actually won seats in BOTH houses of Congress in 2012), but because of low information voters...people new to the process, first time voters and others.

Imagine a party actually running against more people voting? It's hilariously funny and sad at the same time.

I guess the GOP base thinks having information o matter how twisted or distorted makes a better voter.

Denial runs rampant, but what is worth watching is how the right wingers deal with the fact that more people are voting now...more youth, and blacks, and others who usually sit out an election

Dante predicts more victimhood for the GOP and it's base

The GOP won the biggest mid term landslide in history but the desperate left reminds us only of the fact that "democrats actually won seats". If that's not a twisted blend of distorted information nothing is.

Yeah because the GOP obstructed and frustrated the American people so much nobody showed up to vote in 2010 or 14.

 

[sealybobo]

When more people showed up you saw what happened. Obama won

 

[sealybobo]

Republicans are funny. They think they understand the constitution better than the President of the United States. And they think anybody who agrees with Obama is stupid and shouldn't vote

Not funny...just correct.

Let me give you a great example of how stupid Republican voters are. I have probably heard at least 10 jackasses say they like Trump. And the last election I remember many of you liking Herman Cain Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann. So clearly you right wing fools vote for any assclown the Republican Party throws at you

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

sealybobo

It's not the act of voting that preserves our type of democracy. It's having INFORMED and moral voters who understand the Constitution and how things work.. Raving about VOLUME of voters who are driven to polls with gimmicks and hot-button issues is not smart.. OTH -- political wizards severely underestimate the Common Sense of low information voters on both sides. Even when the mainstream media is derelict in their duty to inform, and their product is a god awful combo of fluff and propaganda, older low information voters on BOTH sides who couldn't tell you where the Mason Dixon line is --- get the drift of where the country is heading.

The future is in 3rd party politics. Sooner or later both duopoly parties need replacing..

You may be confusing our republic with democracy. Hmm...

The founding generation spoke to having an informed and moral society in order to keep a republic. They were NOT big fans of democracy and were not addressing how the USA would function as a democracy.

Understanding the Constitution and how it works would be the job of the representatives the people elect in a democratic republic.

Political wizards consistently manipulate the dimwitted citizenry who mistake every thought in their pathetic heads as being Common Sense

Older voters have experience. They may even have wisdom, but the future is NOT theirs.

Draw a Venn Diagram. Our Republic is a sub-set form of democracy.. And your comment about understanding the Constitution should be left to elected representatives is APPALLING..

If you want manipulated automatons with no knowledge of how America got here to be the dominant voting block, you will end UP with a true Democracy. And that's not actually a good thing. Because the government already SUCKS WADS at 87% of the things that they do.. And PANDERING to voters is easier than actually fixing problems. THAT ---- is a large part of our CURRENT problem..

When very few people vote then if I were a politician I would only worry about what the Rich lobbyist want me to do I wouldn't even worry about the voters because I know only voters are the rich people who want the status quo and that's Republican

dumb shit here.

Few people vote and those that do are manipulated into voting identity over self interests.

If you vote then that's an argument for why everyone else in America / teenage should vote. What makes you any different? Or better?

clue #1: life is unfair

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

grumpy old Grampa Murked U strikes again!

Spent the holiday week listening to the Right Wing Noise Machine .. replays of Rushbo and other wingnut, echo chamber mouthpieces and let me tell you I got an education.

It seems right wing world is of the opinion that the GOP lost the Presidential election, not because of Romney or the right wing kooks that came out of the woodwork to actually help the President and Democrats (the Dems actually won seats in BOTH houses of Congress in 2012), but because of low information voters...people new to the process, first time voters and others.

Imagine a party actually running against more people voting? It's hilariously funny and sad at the same time.

I guess the GOP base thinks having information o matter how twisted or distorted makes a better voter.

Denial runs rampant, but what is worth watching is how the right wingers deal with the fact that more people are voting now...more youth, and blacks, and others who usually sit out an election

Dante predicts more victimhood for the GOP and it's base

Speaking of dimwit voters. Just look at your junior high school name calling.

Irony

Oh please, go take a nap

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Libertarian -- card carrying dues paying type --- BUT --- my interest is in getting 3rd parties on the ballot NO MATTER who they are. So I've chummed with Greens and Constitution folks.. Do you realize how times the Dems and Repubs ABANDON losing races and actually don't even run a candidate for Congress? It's a crime.

So doesn't MATTER if you go to polls if the ballot is already determined by having 1 of 2 parties decide NOT to contest an election.. What kind of "voting" is that eh?

That stuff doesn't happen if everyone votes

Jesus Christ, what an idiotic assumption. More people voting is a cure all?

 

[eagle7_31]

Spent the holiday week listening to the Right Wing Noise Machine .. replays of Rushbo and other wingnut, echo chamber mouthpieces and let me tell you I got an education.

It seems right wing world is of the opinion that the GOP lost the Presidential election, not because of Romney or the right wing kooks that came out of the woodwork to actually help the President and Democrats (the Dems actually won seats in BOTH houses of Congress in 2012), but because of low information voters...people new to the process, first time voters and others.

Imagine a party actually running against more people voting? It's hilariously funny and sad at the same time.

I guess the GOP base thinks having information o matter how twisted or distorted makes a better voter.

Denial runs rampant, but what is worth watching is how the right wingers deal with the fact that more people are voting now...more youth, and blacks, and others who usually sit out an election

Dante predicts more victimhood for the GOP and it's base

More pearls of stupidity from a left wing blow hard.

 

[sealybobo]

Spent the holiday week listening to the Right Wing Noise Machine .. replays of Rushbo and other wingnut, echo chamber mouthpieces and let me tell you I got an education.

It seems right wing world is of the opinion that the GOP lost the Presidential election, not because of Romney or the right wing kooks that came out of the woodwork to actually help the President and Democrats (the Dems actually won seats in BOTH houses of Congress in 2012), but because of low information voters...people new to the process, first time voters and others.

Imagine a party actually running against more people voting? It's hilariously funny and sad at the same time.

I guess the GOP base thinks having information o matter how twisted or distorted makes a better voter.

Denial runs rampant, but what is worth watching is how the right wingers deal with the fact that more people are voting now...more youth, and blacks, and others who usually sit out an election

Dante predicts more victimhood for the GOP and it's base

More pearls of stupidity from a left wing blow hard.

Look at you fools. You vote wrong but that doesn't stop you from showing up