LOL! New "claim" is that 2014 was "hottest year on record."

[IlarMeilyr]

A question was posed in Climate Depot to the effect, "Is 58.46°F really distinguishable from 58.45°F?"

See Scientists balk at 8216 hottest year 8217 claims Ignores Satellites showing 18 Year 8216 Pause 8217 8211 We are arguing over the significance of hundredths of a degree 8211 The 8216 Pause 8217 continues Climate Depot

The answer, of course, is "no."

It was even suggested (in the web site linked above) that this .01 degree increase COULD more validly be categorized as the ONGOING cessation of any increase in the alleged "warming" of the planet.

This would be more fun and kinda funny if the liberals weren't misusing "science" like that to advance their socialist agenda.

 

[rightwinger]

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Not even marginally funny. Nobody has contended that since it is cold here on some winter day that there is no global warming.

What the article DID posit is that the 95% confidence interval for an alleged (and estimated) .01 increase in average global temperatures is hardly the stuff of genuine science. And to make the claim with the alarming cry of "warmest year on record" kind of proves the point.

Seen in a rational (and scientific) light, such a minor alleged increase IS effectively the same as saying that "there is a continuation of a cessation for two decades of global warming."

But that wasn't the spin put on that .01 degree F estimated change in temperature. Was it?

 

[rightwinger]

Who cares about .01 degree

It will be 100 years before it is 1 degree
500 years before it is 5 degrees
1000 years before it is 10 degrees

Republicans will be dead by then

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Who cares about .01 degree

It will be 100 years before it is 1 degree
500 years before it is 5 degrees
1000 years before it is 10 degrees

Republicans will be dead by then

Even your inability to employ math stops being funny after a while.

Your silly presumption is that the .01 degree alleged change in temperature will "continue" (and at the same rate) for years , decades and millenia.

Liberal Democrat brains got permanently frozen in the last ice age. (Climate changed a lot long before humans produced SUVs as it turns out. Shocking, I know.)

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Climate Change Misinformer Of The Year: Marc Morano ...

ClimateDepot.com is the website of Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow employee Marc Morano, a conservative global warming denier ...

 

[rightwinger]

Who cares about .01 degree

It will be 100 years before it is 1 degree
500 years before it is 5 degrees
1000 years before it is 10 degrees

Republicans will be dead by then

Even your inability to employ math stops being funny after a while.

Your silly presumption is that the .01 degree alleged change in temperature will "continue" (and at the same rate) for years , decades and millenia.

Liberal Democrat brains got permanently frozen in the last ice age. (Climate changed a lot long before humans produced SUVs as it turns out. Shocking, I know.)

You are correct, it is in all probability an exponential increase

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Climate Change Misinformer Of The Year: Marc Morano ...

ClimateDepot.com is the website of Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow employee Marc Morano, a conservative global warming denier ...

I enjoy each and every one of your more glaringly obvious fallacies, slowthrop.

But, putting your latest use of glaringly obvious fallacy aside, maybe a genius like you can refute or even intelligently dispute what the linked piece actually said?

I'm sure this will be worth the wait ....

 

[Rocko]

I confess that I'm extremely ignorant when it comes to the whole climate change debate, but I don't trust liberals. They are oblivious to real economic principles, why should I think they're any better with science? And it's obvious that they're always looking for power grabs.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Who cares about .01 degree

It will be 100 years before it is 1 degree
500 years before it is 5 degrees
1000 years before it is 10 degrees

Republicans will be dead by then

Even your inability to employ math stops being funny after a while.

Your silly presumption is that the .01 degree alleged change in temperature will "continue" (and at the same rate) for years , decades and millenia.

Liberal Democrat brains got permanently frozen in the last ice age. (Climate changed a lot long before humans produced SUVs as it turns out. Shocking, I know.)

You are correct, it is in all probability an exponential increase

And you offer no evidence to support THAT baseless speculation either.

Actual data and evidence: a roughly 20 year CESSATION of average global temperature increase.

leftwhiner's conclusion: "in all probability an exponential INCREASE in average global temperature."

Convincing? Nah.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

The Warmest Year on Record

Parts of the eastern United States were cooler than average last year, but globally 2014 was the warmest year in recorded history.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/17/s...n-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

 

[R.D.]

lol, dude looks like Obama

 

[rightwinger]

I confess that I'm extremely ignorant when it comes to the whole climate change debate, but I don't trust liberals. They are oblivious to real economic principles, why should I think they're any better with science? And it's obvious that they're always looking for power grabs.

Very true

The fact that 95% of Scientists support the theory has no relevance

After all, the Oil Companies all say it is not true

 

[CrusaderFrank]

...and the number of lab experiments linking any temperature increase to CO2 is still zero

 

[IlarMeilyr]

The Warmest Year on Record

Parts of the eastern United States were cooler than average last year, but globally 2014 was the warmest year in recorded history.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/17/s...n-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Wow. Thanks for supporting the thesis. The New York Slimes breathlessly announces 'the sky is falling' (still based on the "record" being surpassed by a questionable .01 degree F). But even THEY are constrained to acknowledge that there is another side (even as they editorially attempt to pooh pooh it):

“Obviously, a single year, even if it is a record, cannot tell us much about climate trends,” said Stefan Rahmstorf, head of earth system analysis at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany. “However, the fact that the warmest years on record are 2014, 2010 and 2005 clearly indicates that global warming has not ‘stopped in 1998,’ as some like to falsely claim.”

Such claims are unlikely to go away, though. John R. Christy, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville who is known for his skepticism about the seriousness of global warming, pointed out in an interview that 2014 had surpassed the other record-warm years by only a few hundredths of a degree, well within the error margin of global temperature measurements.

“Since the end of the 20th century, the temperature hasn’t done much,” Dr. Christy said. “It’s on this kind of warmish plateau.” -- excerpted from the quoted article. Emphasis added.​

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Warmest Year on Record

Parts of the eastern United States were cooler than average last year, but globally 2014 was the warmest year in recorded history.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/17/s...n-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

odd that the vast majority of the "Warming" is located either north of Alaska on in the oceans.

Very odd

 

[IlarMeilyr]

I confess that I'm extremely ignorant when it comes to the whole climate change debate, but I don't trust liberals. They are oblivious to real economic principles, why should I think they're any better with science? And it's obvious that they're always looking for power grabs.

Very true

The fact that 95% of Scientists support the theory has no relevance

After all, the Oil Companies all say it is not true

It has a LOT of relevance to those of YOU who like to imagine that the "scientific method" is a democratic process of counting votes.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

odd that the vast majority of the "Warming" is located either north of Alaska on in the oceans.

Very odd

I don't know about "near Alaska," but the Antarctic ice has under gone quite a bit of melting -- more than twice as much as the northern Ice Cap.

Oceans hold quite a bit of heat; the less ice there is to cover the ocean waters, the less heat will be reflected back into space.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

odd that the vast majority of the "Warming" is located either north of Alaska on in the oceans.

Very odd

I don't know about "near Alaska," but the Antarctic ice has under gone quite a bit of melting -- more than twice as much as the northern Ice Cap.

Oceans hold quite a bit of heat; the less ice there is to cover the ocean waters, the less heat will be reflected back into space.

Did you bother to look at the chart before you chimed in?