Like it or not, God is immoral.

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    Like it or not, God is immoral.

    This clip shows how man has defined morality. I generally agree with it as it closely resembles the morality shown in all the holy books. I see them as closely resembling the golden rule.

    TED Blog | The real difference between liberals and conservatives: Jonathan Haidt on TED.com

    This clip show how what I see as a good representation of moral men judging God’s morality. I agree with their verdict and judge God to be immoral.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI]God on Trial: The Verdict - YouTube[/ame]

    From the above and from all that we know of God as depicted in the Bible, one can only conclude that God is immoral.

    All those with intelligence who can discern moral actions from immoral actions will agree.

    Moral actions for this exercise will be those issues where God interacts with humans.

    If you do not agree that God is immoral from what you have heard above, then give your reason and I will show that God chose the immoral path in whatever action you choose to use as your example of his moral action. That or I will show that any of his altruistic acts are self-serving.

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    Nazi's persecute the Jews so therefore God is Immoral.

    Fail.
     
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    Like it or not, god is invisible and non-existant.

    The question would then be: is a non-existant invisible being who doesn't want you to find him or see him immoral? Or does the immorality rest with retards who think they can see an invisible non-existant being? Or is it immoral to think that your invisible being is the one true invisible being and all the others are fake?
     
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    Thanks for showing that you cannot refute the premise.
    As usual Christians run from any discussions on morality because they know they do not have a leg to stand on.

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    No argument but I did specify "God as depicted in the Bible" and that way even non-believers can judge. They would be judging what is written and not an imaginary God.

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    What is really your issue with God? You come in here every other day with illogical posts attacking God. Why? What purpose does it serve? Do you honestly think you are going to influence people with experience with the Lord? Do you think that anyone who has felt the power of the Holy Spirit, felt the joy and love of God, that God is anything but the merciful and kind Father of our Souls?
     
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    If you judge what is written, then you're still talking about an invisible being.
     
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    I enjoy trying to find out how to see the same invisible beings that you see, but I can't seem to ever see them, never mind magic underwear and ancient submarines. Bummer. :frown:
     
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    While I wasnt talking to you, I dont think it's difficult to see things the way I see. It just requires work. If you are willing to put in the work to seek God, then you will find Him. He will reveal Himself in His own due time.

    Study the Bible. Study the Book of Mormon. Study all the revelations from God. Humble yourself. Kneel before God in spoken prayer. Pour out your heart. Tell Him what you think and feel. If you're sincere and you put in the effort, God will bless you.

    When I first investigated, I had no idea whether there was a God or not. If there was one, I had no clue whether it was the Christian God or some other diety. I had no clue whether it was possible to even find out. But I did conclude that if there was a way, God would reveal Himself to me. He did. He had to hit me over my head with a Spiritual 4x4, but He did after I put in the effort. I studied the scriptures. I tried to live what i read the best I could. I sought God in prayer.

    And when The Lord sent His Holy Spirit, I couldn't deny it. I realized He was trying to reveal Himself to me before, but I wasnt prepared to listen. When I felt the pure love and joy associated with the Spirit, I had one desire, to keep that joy and love in my life always. I knew I had to change some things in my life. I had to repent and turn to Him for support.

    There is still alot of things I need to know. And There are things I need to improve in my life. But I will never forget the day He taught me that Jesus Christ was His Son. Nor will I forget when the Spirit testified to me that Joseph Smith was a Prophet and that the Bible and Book of Mormon are true. the event changed my life.

    And what amazes me most is God is willing to do that for anyone who will listen. If you seek Him, you will find Him.
     
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    You know, I looked up Genesis the other day and started to read it. It sounded like the people who wrote it were on magic mushrooms or something. The world wasn't made in six days, and humans don't live to be 600 years old, well, not yet anyways, lol. Never mind the boat thing with the animals which is IMPOSSIBLE!
    How does one get through all the malarkey? And then you add on the book of mormons, that's even more whacked than the bible!
     
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