Liberals to Stamp Out 'Take Out'????

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When our NYC Mayor Bloomberg gets in touch with his Liberal side, well....he should have a drink, and lie down until it passes.


His latest caprice:


1. "... holding a hearing Monday on a bill to prohibit the use and sale of plastic foam cups and plates that have long been ubiquitous in delis, bodegas and even school cafeterias.

2. Sanitation officials say plastic foam food containers add 23,000 tons of trash a year to landfills, The city’s total total waste stream is more than three million tons.

3. ....officials say the ban is warranted because foam containers are non-biodegradable, can’t be recycled and spoil the environment.

4. Mayor-elect Bill de Blasio proposed a similar measure as public advocate in 2010, according to his office website.
Bloomberg’s office said the foam ban is a no-brainer.

5. “When polystyrene foam is used for food service it becomes a devastating pollutant that infects our parks and waterways while never biodegrading and has been classified a carcinogenic health hazard by the National Institute of Health,” said Bloomberg spokesman Jake Goldman."
Mayor Bloomberg wants to ban Styrofoam | New York Post





First, environmentalism is one of those pet projects of Liberals, based on lies and misinformation.





6. Ready for a lesson in eutrophication?

"...many hours learning the ins and outs of factors such as eutrophication, which is the degree to which paper or plastic bags disturb the chemical and nutritional balance of the earth's soil as they each sit in landfills or other burial spots. (Paper loses that part of the battle, because the process used to manufacture the bags emits considerably more carbon than the act of making a plastic bag.)

... neither paper nor plastic bags decompose to any useful degree in the landfills where most of our trash ends up."
Binary Man: Paper Or Plastic? - Raw Fisher
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2009/01/binary_man_paper_or_plastic.html

a. "Sometimes, even banana peels don't decompose once they reach the landfill. For sanitary reasons, modern landfills are lined on the bottom with clay and plastic to keep waste from escaping into the soil and are covered daily with a layer of earth to reduce odor. The landfill, then, acts like a trash tomb—the garbage within receives little air, water, or sunlight. This means that even readily degradable waste objects, including paper and food scraps, are more likely to mummify than decompose."
Do plastic bags really take 500 years to break down in a landfill?





7. Strofoam a carcinogen?
Yeah....if you smoke it.

But before you toss those white plastic take-out containers, keep this in mind: the government report says that by far the greatest exposure to styrene comes from cigarette smoke. In fact, one study cited in the report estimates that exposure from smoking cigarettes was roughly 10 times that from all other sources, including indoor and outdoor air, drinking water, soil and food combined.
Chemical Found in Foam Cups a Possible Carcinogen - US News and World Report


BTW.....studies of styrofoam as a carcinogen are replete with the word 'possibly.'
Guess why?






8. Dr. Thomas Sowell, in “Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One,” challenges individuals to analyze not only their short term (Stage One) impact but to also think ahead to their long term (Stage Two, Three, etc) impact.

Politicians do not think beyond Stage One because they will be praised (and elected) for the short term benefits but will not be held accountable much later when the long term consequences appear.

Case in point the styrofoam ban: any thought to what the food industry would use instead?

Wanna carry out that Kung Pao Chicken in your hands?
 
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I recommend the people of NY deliver their trash directly to the Mayor's address.

Let him process the compost.
 
I recommend the people of NY deliver their trash directly to the Mayor's address.

Let him process the compost.





Well....I don't come down too hard on our mayor....after all, most of his policies have been the same conservative ones as Mayor Giuliani.


And....the mayor-elect is just to the Left of Fidel Castro.....
 
I recommend the people of NY deliver their trash directly to the Mayor's address.

Let him process the compost.





Well....I don't come down too hard on our mayor....after all, most of his policies have been the same conservative ones as Mayor Giuliani.


And....the mayor-elect is just to the Left of Fidel Castro.....

Just making suggestions. His front yard could be decorated before Christmas.............

You could even make Christmas Trees out of the cups...............
 
People and businesses have become way too disposable. Too much does get tossed and something should be done about it. Not in favor of banning but would love for people and companies take the initiative on this, someone invent better alternatives, etc.
 
I recommend the people of NY deliver their trash directly to the Mayor's address.

Let him process the compost.





Well....I don't come down too hard on our mayor....after all, most of his policies have been the same conservative ones as Mayor Giuliani.


And....the mayor-elect is just to the Left of Fidel Castro.....

Just making suggestions. His front yard could be decorated before Christmas.............

You could even make Christmas Trees out of the cups...............



Well....when you put it like that.....



You know Bloomberg is probably the richest man in a city with 400,000 millionaires?

"....current mayor Michael Bloomberg has never resided at Gracie Mansion, although he uses it for meetings and events and has used the Mansion as a place for official visitors to stay while in the city. At the beginning of Bloomberg's term he initiated a major restoration of the mansion, funded by an anonymous donor, suspected of being the billionaire mayor himself." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gracie_Mansion



Well....second richest.
 
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When our NYC Mayor Bloomberg gets in touch with his Liberal side, well....he should have a drink, and lie down until it passes.


His latest caprice:


1. "... holding a hearing Monday on a bill to prohibit the use and sale of plastic foam cups and plates that have long been ubiquitous in delis, bodegas and even school cafeterias.

2. Sanitation officials say plastic foam food containers add 23,000 tons of trash a year to landfills, The city’s total total waste stream is more than three million tons.

3. ....officials say the ban is warranted because foam containers are non-biodegradable, can’t be recycled and spoil the environment.

4. Mayor-elect Bill de Blasio proposed a similar measure as public advocate in 2010, according to his office website.
Bloomberg’s office said the foam ban is a no-brainer.

5. “When polystyrene foam is used for food service it becomes a devastating pollutant that infects our parks and waterways while never biodegrading and has been classified a carcinogenic health hazard by the National Institute of Health,” said Bloomberg spokesman Jake Goldman."
Mayor Bloomberg wants to ban Styrofoam | New York Post





First, environmentalism is one of those pet projects of Liberals, based on lies and misinformation.





6. Ready for a lesson in eutrophication?

"...many hours learning the ins and outs of factors such as eutrophication, which is the degree to which paper or plastic bags disturb the chemical and nutritional balance of the earth's soil as they each sit in landfills or other burial spots. (Paper loses that part of the battle, because the process used to manufacture the bags emits considerably more carbon than the act of making a plastic bag.)

... neither paper nor plastic bags decompose to any useful degree in the landfills where most of our trash ends up."
Binary Man: Paper Or Plastic? - Raw Fisher
Binary Man: Paper Or Plastic? - Raw Fisher

a. "Sometimes, even banana peels don't decompose once they reach the landfill. For sanitary reasons, modern landfills are lined on the bottom with clay and plastic to keep waste from escaping into the soil and are covered daily with a layer of earth to reduce odor. The landfill, then, acts like a trash tomb—the garbage within receives little air, water, or sunlight. This means that even readily degradable waste objects, including paper and food scraps, are more likely to mummify than decompose."
Do plastic bags really take 500 years to break down in a landfill?





7. Strofoam a carcinogen?
Yeah....if you smoke it.

But before you toss those white plastic take-out containers, keep this in mind: the government report says that by far the greatest exposure to styrene comes from cigarette smoke. In fact, one study cited in the report estimates that exposure from smoking cigarettes was roughly 10 times that from all other sources, including indoor and outdoor air, drinking water, soil and food combined.
Chemical Found in Foam Cups a Possible Carcinogen - US News and World Report


BTW.....studies of styrofoam as a carcinogen are replete with the word 'possibly.'
Guess why?






8. Dr. Thomas Sowell, in “Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One,” challenges individuals to analyze not only their short term (Stage One) impact but to also think ahead to their long term (Stage Two, Three, etc) impact.

Politicians do not think beyond Stage One because they will be praised (and elected) for the short term benefits but will not be held accountable much later when the long term consequences appear.

Case in point the styrofoam ban: any thought to what the food industry would use instead?

Wanna carry out that Kung Pao Chicken in your hands?


The liberals have destroyed industry, the schools, & health care. They might as well target the food service industry.

Actually, my microbiology teacher was pretty convinced that bacteria would eventually figure out how to eat plastics.
 
I'm just poking fun at the Liberals.

It is their desire to tell us how to live our lives...........
It is their desire to tell us how to behave, and what we should believe...........
That only opinions that agree with theirs is right and just..................
If we dare disagree we are bigots, racists, and all of their other standard tactics that they use.........

This is just a Liberal Fat Cat telling others how to live..................

How about this..................Mr. Bloomberg.....................

Invent the replacement for the cup..............Then I'll be impressed...........

Until then, STFU.................
 
Isnt this the same mayor that was handing out truckloads of free styrofoam laden bike helmets to folks who will probably never use them a couple years ago? Brain cancer?

I think the answer is banana leaves.. All the Mu Shoo you can fit in a banana leaf.. AND mandatory composting.. No alleyway is too small for a compost pile...
 
Isnt this the same mayor that was handing out truckloads of free styrofoam laden bike helmets to folks who will probably never use them a couple years ago? Brain cancer?

I think the answer is banana leaves.. All the Mu Shoo you can fit in a banana leaf.. AND mandatory composting.. No alleyway is too small for a compost pile...


Well....with that idea in mind.....

.....I recall several years ago a truck would drive around selling Chinese food.
The plates they used to serve it was a huge square noodle with a concave middle.

And that 'plate' was delicious!

Problem solved....
 
Isnt this the same mayor that was handing out truckloads of free styrofoam laden bike helmets to folks who will probably never use them a couple years ago? Brain cancer?

I think the answer is banana leaves.. All the Mu Shoo you can fit in a banana leaf.. AND mandatory composting.. No alleyway is too small for a compost pile...


Well....with that idea in mind.....

.....I recall several years ago a truck would drive around selling Chinese food.
The plates they used to serve it was a huge square noodle with a concave middle.

And that 'plate' was delicious!

Problem solved....

That's the ticket.. Who said that only leftists could improve the environment..

Anything large and fried would do the trick.. After all -- with trans-fats banished --- it's all good now.. An elegant melding of Asian and Redneck Southern..
 
When our NYC Mayor Bloomberg gets in touch with his Liberal side, well....he should have a drink, and lie down until it passes.


His latest caprice:


1. "... holding a hearing Monday on a bill to prohibit the use and sale of plastic foam cups and plates that have long been ubiquitous in delis, bodegas and even school cafeterias.

2. Sanitation officials say plastic foam food containers add 23,000 tons of trash a year to landfills, The city’s total total waste stream is more than three million tons.

3. ....officials say the ban is warranted because foam containers are non-biodegradable, can’t be recycled and spoil the environment.

4. Mayor-elect Bill de Blasio proposed a similar measure as public advocate in 2010, according to his office website.
Bloomberg’s office said the foam ban is a no-brainer.

5. “When polystyrene foam is used for food service it becomes a devastating pollutant that infects our parks and waterways while never biodegrading and has been classified a carcinogenic health hazard by the National Institute of Health,” said Bloomberg spokesman Jake Goldman."
Mayor Bloomberg wants to ban Styrofoam | New York Post





First, environmentalism is one of those pet projects of Liberals, based on lies and misinformation.





6. Ready for a lesson in eutrophication?

"...many hours learning the ins and outs of factors such as eutrophication, which is the degree to which paper or plastic bags disturb the chemical and nutritional balance of the earth's soil as they each sit in landfills or other burial spots. (Paper loses that part of the battle, because the process used to manufacture the bags emits considerably more carbon than the act of making a plastic bag.)

... neither paper nor plastic bags decompose to any useful degree in the landfills where most of our trash ends up."
Binary Man: Paper Or Plastic? - Raw Fisher
Binary Man: Paper Or Plastic? - Raw Fisher

a. "Sometimes, even banana peels don't decompose once they reach the landfill. For sanitary reasons, modern landfills are lined on the bottom with clay and plastic to keep waste from escaping into the soil and are covered daily with a layer of earth to reduce odor. The landfill, then, acts like a trash tomb—the garbage within receives little air, water, or sunlight. This means that even readily degradable waste objects, including paper and food scraps, are more likely to mummify than decompose."
Do plastic bags really take 500 years to break down in a landfill?





7. Strofoam a carcinogen?
Yeah....if you smoke it.

But before you toss those white plastic take-out containers, keep this in mind: the government report says that by far the greatest exposure to styrene comes from cigarette smoke. In fact, one study cited in the report estimates that exposure from smoking cigarettes was roughly 10 times that from all other sources, including indoor and outdoor air, drinking water, soil and food combined.
Chemical Found in Foam Cups a Possible Carcinogen - US News and World Report


BTW.....studies of styrofoam as a carcinogen are replete with the word 'possibly.'
Guess why?






8. Dr. Thomas Sowell, in “Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One,” challenges individuals to analyze not only their short term (Stage One) impact but to also think ahead to their long term (Stage Two, Three, etc) impact.

Politicians do not think beyond Stage One because they will be praised (and elected) for the short term benefits but will not be held accountable much later when the long term consequences appear.

Case in point the styrofoam ban: any thought to what the food industry would use instead?

Wanna carry out that Kung Pao Chicken in your hands?



You have two completely different subjects in this OP.

The first is the Styrofoam ban by Bloomberg, di Blasio, and other rational, responsible adults. It is an absolutely correct thing to do.

The second is the way we currently landfill, which I have no doubt doesn't lead to breakdown of organic waste. It's a terrible process.

The answer is to come up with a better way. There are already items made from plant starch, which break down rather quickly, harmless.


Eco Products? 6.75" Plant Starch Spoons, Knives and Forks


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There is no reason to keep polluting with plastic utensils.
 
When our NYC Mayor Bloomberg gets in touch with his Liberal side, well....he should have a drink, and lie down until it passes.


His latest caprice:


1. "... holding a hearing Monday on a bill to prohibit the use and sale of plastic foam cups and plates that have long been ubiquitous in delis, bodegas and even school cafeterias.

2. Sanitation officials say plastic foam food containers add 23,000 tons of trash a year to landfills, The city’s total total waste stream is more than three million tons.

3. ....officials say the ban is warranted because foam containers are non-biodegradable, can’t be recycled and spoil the environment.

4. Mayor-elect Bill de Blasio proposed a similar measure as public advocate in 2010, according to his office website.
Bloomberg’s office said the foam ban is a no-brainer.

5. “When polystyrene foam is used for food service it becomes a devastating pollutant that infects our parks and waterways while never biodegrading and has been classified a carcinogenic health hazard by the National Institute of Health,” said Bloomberg spokesman Jake Goldman."
Mayor Bloomberg wants to ban Styrofoam | New York Post





First, environmentalism is one of those pet projects of Liberals, based on lies and misinformation.





6. Ready for a lesson in eutrophication?

"...many hours learning the ins and outs of factors such as eutrophication, which is the degree to which paper or plastic bags disturb the chemical and nutritional balance of the earth's soil as they each sit in landfills or other burial spots. (Paper loses that part of the battle, because the process used to manufacture the bags emits considerably more carbon than the act of making a plastic bag.)

... neither paper nor plastic bags decompose to any useful degree in the landfills where most of our trash ends up."
Binary Man: Paper Or Plastic? - Raw Fisher
Binary Man: Paper Or Plastic? - Raw Fisher

a. "Sometimes, even banana peels don't decompose once they reach the landfill. For sanitary reasons, modern landfills are lined on the bottom with clay and plastic to keep waste from escaping into the soil and are covered daily with a layer of earth to reduce odor. The landfill, then, acts like a trash tomb—the garbage within receives little air, water, or sunlight. This means that even readily degradable waste objects, including paper and food scraps, are more likely to mummify than decompose."
Do plastic bags really take 500 years to break down in a landfill?





7. Strofoam a carcinogen?
Yeah....if you smoke it.

But before you toss those white plastic take-out containers, keep this in mind: the government report says that by far the greatest exposure to styrene comes from cigarette smoke. In fact, one study cited in the report estimates that exposure from smoking cigarettes was roughly 10 times that from all other sources, including indoor and outdoor air, drinking water, soil and food combined.
Chemical Found in Foam Cups a Possible Carcinogen - US News and World Report


BTW.....studies of styrofoam as a carcinogen are replete with the word 'possibly.'
Guess why?






8. Dr. Thomas Sowell, in “Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One,” challenges individuals to analyze not only their short term (Stage One) impact but to also think ahead to their long term (Stage Two, Three, etc) impact.

Politicians do not think beyond Stage One because they will be praised (and elected) for the short term benefits but will not be held accountable much later when the long term consequences appear.

Case in point the styrofoam ban: any thought to what the food industry would use instead?

Wanna carry out that Kung Pao Chicken in your hands?



You have two completely different subjects in this OP.

The first is the Styrofoam ban by Bloomberg, di Blasio, and other rational, responsible adults. It is an absolutely correct thing to do.

The second is the way we currently landfill, which I have no doubt doesn't lead to breakdown of organic waste. It's a terrible process.

The answer is to come up with a better way. There are already items made from plant starch, which break down rather quickly, harmless.



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There is no reason to keep polluting with plastic utensils.

Not bad idea.. Doesn't solve the take-out prob completely..
Tell ya what --- I aint using no China made "plant starch" utensils.. They've already killed our pets by not being able to make dog food that's not toxic...
 
When our NYC Mayor Bloomberg gets in touch with his Liberal side, well....he should have a drink, and lie down until it passes.


His latest caprice:


1. "... holding a hearing Monday on a bill to prohibit the use and sale of plastic foam cups and plates that have long been ubiquitous in delis, bodegas and even school cafeterias.

2. Sanitation officials say plastic foam food containers add 23,000 tons of trash a year to landfills, The city’s total total waste stream is more than three million tons.

3. ....officials say the ban is warranted because foam containers are non-biodegradable, can’t be recycled and spoil the environment.

4. Mayor-elect Bill de Blasio proposed a similar measure as public advocate in 2010, according to his office website.
Bloomberg’s office said the foam ban is a no-brainer.

5. “When polystyrene foam is used for food service it becomes a devastating pollutant that infects our parks and waterways while never biodegrading and has been classified a carcinogenic health hazard by the National Institute of Health,” said Bloomberg spokesman Jake Goldman."
Mayor Bloomberg wants to ban Styrofoam | New York Post





First, environmentalism is one of those pet projects of Liberals, based on lies and misinformation.





6. Ready for a lesson in eutrophication?

"...many hours learning the ins and outs of factors such as eutrophication, which is the degree to which paper or plastic bags disturb the chemical and nutritional balance of the earth's soil as they each sit in landfills or other burial spots. (Paper loses that part of the battle, because the process used to manufacture the bags emits considerably more carbon than the act of making a plastic bag.)

... neither paper nor plastic bags decompose to any useful degree in the landfills where most of our trash ends up."
Binary Man: Paper Or Plastic? - Raw Fisher
Binary Man: Paper Or Plastic? - Raw Fisher

a. "Sometimes, even banana peels don't decompose once they reach the landfill. For sanitary reasons, modern landfills are lined on the bottom with clay and plastic to keep waste from escaping into the soil and are covered daily with a layer of earth to reduce odor. The landfill, then, acts like a trash tomb—the garbage within receives little air, water, or sunlight. This means that even readily degradable waste objects, including paper and food scraps, are more likely to mummify than decompose."
Do plastic bags really take 500 years to break down in a landfill?





7. Strofoam a carcinogen?
Yeah....if you smoke it.

But before you toss those white plastic take-out containers, keep this in mind: the government report says that by far the greatest exposure to styrene comes from cigarette smoke. In fact, one study cited in the report estimates that exposure from smoking cigarettes was roughly 10 times that from all other sources, including indoor and outdoor air, drinking water, soil and food combined.
Chemical Found in Foam Cups a Possible Carcinogen - US News and World Report


BTW.....studies of styrofoam as a carcinogen are replete with the word 'possibly.'
Guess why?






8. Dr. Thomas Sowell, in “Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One,” challenges individuals to analyze not only their short term (Stage One) impact but to also think ahead to their long term (Stage Two, Three, etc) impact.

Politicians do not think beyond Stage One because they will be praised (and elected) for the short term benefits but will not be held accountable much later when the long term consequences appear.

Case in point the styrofoam ban: any thought to what the food industry would use instead?

Wanna carry out that Kung Pao Chicken in your hands?



You have two completely different subjects in this OP.

The first is the Styrofoam ban by Bloomberg, di Blasio, and other rational, responsible adults. It is an absolutely correct thing to do.

The second is the way we currently landfill, which I have no doubt doesn't lead to breakdown of organic waste. It's a terrible process.

The answer is to come up with a better way. There are already items made from plant starch, which break down rather quickly, harmless.


Eco Products? 6.75" Plant Starch Spoons, Knives and Forks


9bWLiMj.png






There is no reason to keep polluting with plastic utensils.






"RALEIGH — To Raleigh's thinking, that holiday gift from your tree-hugger friend contains a hidden danger: biodegradable packing peanuts -- menace to plumbing pipes everywhere.

Raleigh's public utilities crew tested the popular corn-starch packaging and discovered that, contrary to the advertising, they do not dissolve in water.

"They actually required agitation," said Dale Crisp, the city's public utilities director. "We were stirring vigorously, and even when we did so overnight, they did not completely dissolve."

That means the eco-friendly peanuts can gum up the city's sewer lines when poured, flushed or dumped. The city suggests you save them to reuse instead, or drop them in the landfill to slowly trickle out of existence."
RALEIGH: Starchy packing peanuts flunk a flush test | Local/State | NewsObserver.com
 

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