Liberal Intellectual Elite ("LIE")

[Oddball]

again... you cannot disprove that the DOE has been a success in preventing test scores and literacy from falling even further and faster.

Of course, because you cannot prove a negative.

But since when was the goal to prevent falling literacy rates and test scores?

If you're going to throw the kind of money around that the DoE has, one would think that their aim would be positive results, wouldn't you?

the "goal"? The "aim"? Of COURSE.. The "aim" is for every kid to get perfect test scores and be geniuses and every one of them find the cure for cancer or invent the perpetual motion machine or time travel. Given the decline of moral values in our country, the socio-economic divide, and the disintegration of the family unit and the discipline that it used to provide our children, it is a wonder to me that the DOE has done as well as it has, IMO.

Oh, balderdash.

How would you get a command if you sat around and blamed your troops for your crappy command skills?

 

[daveman]

Einstein was an atrocious speller.

your point?

I've been told I hate education. Odd then, don't you think, that I can spell?

Or is it perhaps that the claim that conservatives hate education is just bigoted horseshit?

That seems more likely to me.

Did she or did she not communicate to you? Were you able to understand what she had to say?

My cat communicates to me. That doesn't mean she thinks.

I would be truly sad if America's educational system turned out a bunch of aautomatons who could spell perfectly, but still couldn't think.

Yeah, I haven't seen much evidence of that from her, either.

 

[geauxtohell]

Almost at 300 posts.

Francis would be proud.

 

[maineman]

Einstein was an atrocious speller.

your point?

I've been told I hate education. Odd then, don't you think, that I can spell?

Or is it perhaps that the claim that conservatives hate education is just bigoted horseshit?

That seems more likely to me.

Did she or did she not communicate to you? Were you able to understand what she had to say?

My cat communicates to me. That doesn't mean she thinks.

I would be truly sad if America's educational system turned out a bunch of aautomatons who could spell perfectly, but still couldn't think.

Yeah, I haven't seen much evidence of that from her, either.

uneducated morons who take the time to use the installed spell checker can spell just fine too.

And I have been on a variety of boards with TM for nearly a decade, and while I will admit that her spelling IS atrocious, her commitment to making this country a better place is unmatched. She IS partisan, and not at all ashamed of it. So am I and I an not ashamed either.

 

[The T]

why would you say that? Are you saying that every organization with any sort of a philosophical perspective is incapable of accurately portraying the historical facts about a subject?

Not when they have a political bent of any sort...Just the facts...just the facts.

Do you, therefore, disbelieve anything and everything that is published by such organizations as the American Enterprise Institute, the Heritage Foundation, the Hoover Institute or the Center for Immigration Studies?

I look forward to you condemning any poster who uses sources such as these in the future.

And that would include myself. Esp...Heritage. And guilty as charged...and what political bent are they? Care to elaborate?

 

[daveman]

uneducated morons who take the time to use the installed spell checker can spell just fine too.

Are you, perhaps, referring to me?

No, couldn't be. Because spell checkers only work in the text box as you're typing. They don't operate on already-posted text. You know, like where I saw her spelling errors.

And I have been on a variety of boards with TM for nearly a decade, and while I will admit that her spelling IS atrocious, her commitment to making this country a better place is unmatched.

I've seen what she wants to make this country into. It's not better.

She IS partisan, and not at all ashamed of it. So am I and I an not ashamed either.

Both of you partisan? The hell you say!

 

[maineman]

Not when they have a political bent of any sort...Just the facts...just the facts.

Do you, therefore, disbelieve anything and everything that is published by such organizations as the American Enterprise Institute, the Heritage Foundation, the Hoover Institute or the Center for Immigration Studies?

I look forward to you condemning any poster who uses sources such as these in the future.

And that would include myself. Esp...Heritage. And guilty as charged...and what political bent are they? Care to elaborate?

go to google... type "think tanks by ideology" study up. get back to me.

And then, once you've studied up, I expect that I will NEVER see you post ANY data from ANY think tank that has any political bent of any sort..... because, according to you, they cannot be trusted.

 

[maineman]

uneducated morons who take the time to use the installed spell checker can spell just fine too.

Are you, perhaps, referring to me?

No, couldn't be. Because spell checkers only work in the text box as you're typing. They don't operate on already-posted text. You know, like where I saw her spelling errors.

And I have been on a variety of boards with TM for nearly a decade, and while I will admit that her spelling IS atrocious, her commitment to making this country a better place is unmatched.

I've seen what she wants to make this country into. It's not better.

She IS partisan, and not at all ashamed of it. So am I and I an not ashamed either.

Both of you partisan? The hell you say!

actually, the google spellchecker will work on a post that you quote. My point is...TM does not give a shit about spelling and she never takes the time to spell check... that does not mean she is uneducated or stupid or less than thoughtful.

and it is no surprise that conservatives and liberals have opposing views of what will make America better. That has always been the case. Unfortunately for YOUR side, those issues that were super liberal issues a century ago and vehemently opposed by conservatives, are NOW issues that are widely accepted as part and parcel of America... from women's suffrage to the clean water act... from the rights of workers to organize to workplace safety...from child labor laws to social security and medicare.... you all LOST the last century and WE WON it, and if you don't think that America is a better place because of all those changes, then you better fucking move, because there ain't a snowball's chance in hell that we're headed backwards on any of those issues. sorry

 

[daveman]

actually, the google spellchecker will work on a post that you quote.

I know. But I had to notice the misspellings first, didn't I? That was the reason I quoted the post.

My point is...TM does not give a shit about spelling and she never takes the time to spell check... that does not mean she is uneducated or stupid or less than thoughtful.

No, her stupid and unthoughful posts mean she's stupid and less than thoughtful.

and it is no surprise that conservatives and liberals have opposing views of what will make America better. That has always been the case. Unfortunately for YOUR side, those issues that were super liberal issues a century ago and vehemently opposed by conservatives, are NOW issues that are widely accepted as part and parcel of America... from women's suffrage to the clean water act... from the rights of workers to organize to workplace safety...from child labor laws to social security and medicare.... you all LOST the last century and WE WON it, and if you don't think that America is a better place because of all those changes, then you better fucking move, because there ain't a snowball's chance in hell that we're headed backwards on any of those issues. sorry

Ummm...who's saying women should no longer have the franchise or we all want to pollute the water?

Oh, yeah...your bigotry against conservatives. Dumbass.

Liberals used to be about liberty. Now, they're about greater government control of individual lives.

That will change.

 

[rikules]

Lets just remember who hates higher education, science and History?

Let's just remember who peddles hobgoblin strawmen, with bigoted sweeping generalizations.

"Let's just remember who peddles hobgoblin strawmen, with bigoted sweeping generalizations."


it would take a VERY STUPID person to NOT REALIZE that conservatives do THAT all the time;


"liberals hate America"
"liberals hate christians"
"liberals want to destroy America"
"liberals are morons"
"liberals hate facts"
"liberals LIE"

not...SOME liberals


but SWEEPING GENERALIZATIONS about ALL liberals and ALL democrats


THAT is what MANY conservatives do

certainly MOST conservatives on these boards

and cons like oreilly, beck, limbaugh, coulter, malkin, hannity...

 

[The T]

Do you, therefore, disbelieve anything and everything that is published by such organizations as the American Enterprise Institute, the Heritage Foundation, the Hoover Institute or the Center for Immigration Studies?

I look forward to you condemning any poster who uses sources such as these in the future.

And that would include myself. Esp...Heritage. And guilty as charged...and what political bent are they? Care to elaborate?

go to google... type "think tanks by ideology" study up. get back to me.

And then, once you've studied up, I expect that I will NEVER see you post ANY data from ANY think tank that has any political bent of any sort..... because, according to you, they cannot be trusted.

Whatever you say dear.

 

[Truthmatters]

The world trends more liberal through time.

Cons hate that fact

 

[The T]

Lets just remember who hates higher education, science and History?

Let's just remember who peddles hobgoblin strawmen, with bigoted sweeping generalizations.

"Let's just remember who peddles hobgoblin strawmen, with bigoted sweeping generalizations."


it would take a VERY STUPID person to NOT REALIZE that conservatives do THAT all the time;


"liberals hate America"
"liberals hate christians"
"liberals want to destroy America"
"liberals are morons"
"liberals hate facts"
"liberals LIE"

not...SOME liberals


but SWEEPING GENERALIZATIONS about ALL liberals and ALL democrats


THAT is what MANY conservatives do

certainly MOST conservatives on these boards

and cons like oreilly, beck, limbaugh, coulter, malkin, hannity...

And the truth bothers you? Imagine that, Gracie.

 

[maineman]

And that would include myself. Esp...Heritage. And guilty as charged...and what political bent are they? Care to elaborate?

go to google... type "think tanks by ideology" study up. get back to me.

And then, once you've studied up, I expect that I will NEVER see you post ANY data from ANY think tank that has any political bent of any sort..... because, according to you, they cannot be trusted.

Whatever you say dear.

at least you effectively admit your own partisan hypocrisy.

why am I not surprised?

And I ain't your "dear", you fucking homo. got it? good.

 

[daveman]

And I ain't your "dear", you fucking homo. got it? good.

What's wrong with homosexuality?

 

[maineman]

actually, the google spellchecker will work on a post that you quote.

I know. But I had to notice the misspellings first, didn't I? That was the reason I quoted the post.

My point is...TM does not give a shit about spelling and she never takes the time to spell check... that does not mean she is uneducated or stupid or less than thoughtful.

No, her stupid and unthoughful posts mean she's stupid and less than thoughtful.

and it is no surprise that conservatives and liberals have opposing views of what will make America better. That has always been the case. Unfortunately for YOUR side, those issues that were super liberal issues a century ago and vehemently opposed by conservatives, are NOW issues that are widely accepted as part and parcel of America... from women's suffrage to the clean water act... from the rights of workers to organize to workplace safety...from child labor laws to social security and medicare.... you all LOST the last century and WE WON it, and if you don't think that America is a better place because of all those changes, then you better fucking move, because there ain't a snowball's chance in hell that we're headed backwards on any of those issues. sorry

Ummm...who's saying women should no longer have the franchise or we all want to pollute the water?

Oh, yeah...your bigotry against conservatives. Dumbass.

Liberals used to be about liberty. Now, they're about greater government control of individual lives.

That will change.

every single issue I listed was oppopsed by American conservatives. Every one of them. Every one of them was a far left wacko liberal idea at its inception. Conservatives fought every single one and thought that every single one would be bad for business and bad for America. YOu may say that America is a center right country, but if that is so, it is because the center has moved WAY to the left over the past century. My favorite illustration of this was the classic sign at a teaparty rally that read, "Keep your socialist hands off my medicare".

Bigoted? not really. I will readily admit that I do not like Americans whose political ideology has consistently stood in the way of all of those issues that I listed. That's a fact.

 

[Alpha1]

And I ain't your "dear", you fucking homo. got it? good.

What's wrong with homosexuality?

Maineman told us once he don't like the taste....

 

[daveman]

every single issue I listed was oppopsed by American conservatives. Every one of them. Every one of them was a far left wacko liberal idea at its inception. Conservatives fought every single one and thought that every single one would be bad for business and bad for America.

Yeah. Anybody calling for them now? No? Okay, then.

YOu may say that America is a center right country, but if that is so, it is because the center has moved WAY to the left over the past century. My favorite illustration of this was the classic sign at a teaparty rally that read, "Keep your socialist hands off my medicare".

Yes, that's as dumb as "Who needs oil? I ride the bus!"

Bigoted? not really. I will readily admit that I do not like Americans whose political ideology has consistently stood in the way of all of those issues that I listed. That's a fact.

Yes, bigoted. You're bigoted against conservatives. Your claims are no different than William Joyce saying Jews control the world.

 

[maineman]

every single issue I listed was oppopsed by American conservatives. Every one of them. Every one of them was a far left wacko liberal idea at its inception. Conservatives fought every single one and thought that every single one would be bad for business and bad for America.

Yeah. Anybody calling for them now? No? Okay, then.

YOu may say that America is a center right country, but if that is so, it is because the center has moved WAY to the left over the past century. My favorite illustration of this was the classic sign at a teaparty rally that read, "Keep your socialist hands off my medicare".

Yes, that's as dumb as "Who needs oil? I ride the bus!"

Bigoted? not really. I will readily admit that I do not like Americans whose political ideology has consistently stood in the way of all of those issues that I listed. That's a fact.

Yes, bigoted. You're bigoted against conservatives. Your claims are no different than William Joyce saying Jews control the world.

you miss the point. Of COURSE no conservatives are opposing any of those initiatives now. BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOW BECOME ABSORBED INTO THE SPHERE OF ISSUES THAT CONSERVATIVES NOW EMBRACE. Because, like it or not, America has moved left at a relatively steady rate for a hundred years.

And no. I am not bigoted. I have a political ideology that shapes the directions in which I think America needs to evolve. WIlliam Joyce IS wrong. Jews don't control the world. Tell me what claims I have made that are wrong. Am I wrong to say that conservatives consistently opposed liberal progressive issues for the last 100 years? Am I wrong when I claim that issues that were once ultra-liberal are now accepted by conservatives and that conservatives now support and defend? Really... what "claim" have I made that is wrong in any way? Do tell.

 

[maineman]

And I ain't your "dear", you fucking homo. got it? good.

What's wrong with homosexuality?

not a thing. It's just not MY thing and I don't like guys calling me "dear". If you don't mind him hitting on YOU, then maybe you should speak up and let him know you're interested.