Liberal extremism isn't a new thing..

I guess right wing extremism isn't new either.

January 1996 Chevie and associate Daniel Lewis Lee leave Yukon, Okla., where they have been living, and head for the Mueller home in Tilly, Ark. Jan. 11, 1996 Mueller, his wife and her 8-year-old daughter are abducted, robbed and murdered as they leave their Arkansas home for a gun show. The killers tape plastic bags over their heads and shock them with electric cattle prods as they suffocate.



Later that month, Chevie buys a motor home with $10,000 cash. Weapons owned by the Muellers are eventually linked to the Kehoe brothers and Kirby.

February 1996 Travis Brake is arrested while carrying a gun traced to the Mueller collection. He tells authorities he bought the weapon from Kirby at a Seattle gun show, giving investigators their first break in the Kehoe case.

April 29, 1996 A pipe bomb goes off outside Spokane City Hall. Cheyne Kehoe later says that his brother Chevie carried out the attack. Eventually, Lee also is indicted in the bombing.
The Kehoe Gang: A Timeline | Southern Poverty Law Center

A man suspected of fatally shooting abortion doctor George Tiller in church was in jail Monday while investigators sought to learn more about his background, including his possible connections to anti-abortion groups.
Abortion Doctor Killed

1984-JUN: An abortion clinic was bombed.
1984-DEC: The same clinic was bombed again.
1986-MAR: A second clinic was broken into and vandalized; two female employees were assaulted. John Burt, a former member of the KKK, and his daughter were tried and convicted. John Burt became the local leader of Rescue America.
1993-MAR: Michael Griffin, allegedly a member of Rescue America, assassinated Dr. David Gunn outside an abortion clinic. Griffin's lawyers claimed that Burt had brainwashed Griffin into committing the killing. (There is a consensus among mental health professionals that this sort of "Manchurian Candidate" programming is impossible). Griffin was convicted and given a life sentence.
1994-JUL: Paul Hill, a former Presbyterian minister and leader in Defensive Action assassinated a physician and bodyguard outside another abortion clinic; he also wounded the wife of the bodyguard. He was sentenced to both life imprisonment on federal charges, and execution on state charges.
1994-AUG: Five KKK groups demonstrated adjacent to an abortion clinic in Melbourne FL. They were opposed to abortions given to whites; they encourage abortions to persons of other races. They named Hill their hero of the month.
Violence at US Abortion Clinics


An out-of-work truck driver accused of opening fire at a Unitarian church, killing two people, left behind a note suggesting that he targeted the congregation out of hatred for its liberal policies, including its acceptance of gays, authorities said Monday

Police: Killer targeted liberal church - Crime & courts- msnbc.com

A Filipino American postal worker allegedly shot and killed by a white supremacist who had opened fire at a Jewish community center in Los Angeles will be honored today at a march and memorial in San Francisco.
S.F. Memorial to Honor Filipino Postal Worker / March for victim of L.A. rampage is `wake-up call' - SFGate

Hertz is accused of calling the Boulder Abortion Clinic and threatening to kill members of Dr. Warren Hern’s family. The alleged threat came within weeks of the slaying of Dr. George Tiller, who operated an abortion clinic in Wichita, Kan.
Spokane man's hearing in abortion doctor threat continued - Spokesman.com - March 22, 2010
 
Oh please, it's really not necessary for you to go so far as to actually side with that lunatic is it? You only bring yourself down to his dilusional level where he suffers terribly from gullible-itis sold on tap. I don't ever agree with you, but you are a cut above that POS.

Your just upset because you can't stand being told the truth about what happens on your side of the aisle....I'm not here to make you feel all comfy in your only social interaction with civilization. My suggestion to you is to put down the Ben and Jerry's and get a life.

I know exactly what happens by both the right AND the left. I call you a POS only because you can't make a posting without lacing it with hysterical obsenities. POS was mild, so thanks for the neg rep, hypocrite.

Anytime crybaby...I'm glad you find my obscenities hysterical....that lets me know I'm doing my part to help you loons get those sticks out of your asses.
 
Well pardon me all to hell. I did say I picked just ONE link out of hundreds. So if you don't think violence heavily exposed in all the mediums available to teens these days has an effect on their psyches, how do you explain it? And try to tell me without having a cow. K?

Father Time is essentially correct though.

Violent Crime rates have been going down steadily since the introduction of video games, especially among young people.

A "violent crime" doesn't include bullying yet. Since as I recall the conversation was about teen violence, I was attempting to make that analogy, but I guess I didn't do a very good job of it. And I suspect violent "crimes" where one actually gets arrested is avoided only because certain teens can transcend violent tendencies playing crash and burn video games or act out their machismo in fantasy worlds like Second City. I still believe there's a frightening tendency by the younger generation to view violence as just part of being "normal."
 
Your just upset because you can't stand being told the truth about what happens on your side of the aisle....I'm not here to make you feel all comfy in your only social interaction with civilization. My suggestion to you is to put down the Ben and Jerry's and get a life.

I know exactly what happens by both the right AND the left. I call you a POS only because you can't make a posting without lacing it with hysterical obsenities. POS was mild, so thanks for the neg rep, hypocrite.

Anytime crybaby...I'm glad you find my obscenities hysterical....that lets me know I'm doing my part to help you loons get those sticks out of your asses.

Yeah, because you act like an illiterate street thug, it will help bring us over to your "side." Uh huh. Now THAT'S funny!!
 
Absolutely.
But let's not pretend the big bad military attacked students out of the blue, for the sheer joy of killing. That's idiotic.

Alright, I'll accept that.

As long as we stop insisting that the protesting students are somehow on par with the alleged plans of the Mutaree Terrorists.

And let's not pretend that the National Guard didn't over-react.

Yeah...it's OK for leftist protesters to burn buildings down, throw rocks at the police, smash out windows of businesses on Main street, assault police officers, terrorize the local population and destroy private property without repercussions....but let a right wing nut case CONSPIRE to commit crimes and the left wingers come unglued and demand revenge!!!!....and you said it the best LWC ALLEGED PLANS....let's wait and see what charges they are convicted of.

The National Guard was aquitted of any wrong doing by a judge. That means they used the appropriate amount of force to remedy the situation. Notice the absence of violent protests at Kent State after this incident.
 
Absolutely.
But let's not pretend the big bad military attacked students out of the blue, for the sheer joy of killing. That's idiotic.

Alright, I'll accept that.

As long as we stop insisting that the protesting students are somehow on par with the alleged plans of the Mutaree Terrorists.

And let's not pretend that the National Guard didn't over-react.

"Alleged plans"... don't forget that.

Also, the students chanted "KILL! KILL!"....meaning kill troops of course. It's the EXACT same thing as what the Hutaree are charged with.
 
I know exactly what happens by both the right AND the left. I call you a POS only because you can't make a posting without lacing it with hysterical obsenities. POS was mild, so thanks for the neg rep, hypocrite.

Anytime crybaby...I'm glad you find my obscenities hysterical....that lets me know I'm doing my part to help you loons get those sticks out of your asses.

Yeah, because you act like an illiterate street thug, it will help bring us over to your "side." Uh huh. Now THAT'S funny!!

You insolent boob....I said get the stick out of your ass and get a fricken life already....I surely don't want left wing doofusses on anyone's side...you all are in a class by yourselves.
 
Absolutely.
But let's not pretend the big bad military attacked students out of the blue, for the sheer joy of killing. That's idiotic.

Alright, I'll accept that.

As long as we stop insisting that the protesting students are somehow on par with the alleged plans of the Mutaree Terrorists.

And let's not pretend that the National Guard didn't over-react.

"Alleged plans"... don't forget that.

Also, the students chanted "KILL! KILL!"....meaning kill troops of course. It's the EXACT same thing as what the Hutaree are charged with.

The students misspoke.....so they get a pass.
 
What's wrong with threatening to kill, attacking people, burning down buildings? It's just good, clean fun!
 
It really does boggle my mind that they call tea partiers "violent extremists" but they defend this shit to the end....
 
This whole conversation is foolish anyway.

There are certainly more apt comparisons among 60's activists to the "Christian Warriors" than Kent State.

The Weathermen come to mind, but they weren't the only ones. And the culprits were generally thrown in Jail.

And be that as it may, what you are suggesting seems to logically lead to an argument that the "Christian Warriors" should in fact be SHOT BY NATIONAL GUARDSMAN, without a trial.

Is that where this is leading?

Or are you trying to imply that modern acts of terrorism by the right-wing are somehow justified by the acts of some crazy hippies 50 years ago?

Does that mean that Southern folks should be excused for any acts of terrorism they might choose to commit because they are justified by Sherman's March during the Civil War?

And how does this all jibe with the fact that you all have been screaming your heads off about not allowing Muslim terrorists any rights at all?
 
Exactly...look to the 60's when they were all doped up and high on acid.....now these fucking braindead assholes are running the country...and they want to legalize drugs to keep the population dumbed down...and get a few more votes.

Um, what? The counter-culture movement of the 60s went on to become the CEOs, lawyers, bankers, and politicians that have gotten us into the mess we currently find ourselves in.

Uh...thank you for agreeing wholeheartedly with me. Look at the age of the people running the country...not just our druggie President.....and for your info....
the me me me me me me me me me I I I I I I I I I I I I gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme generation is firmly entrenched now....that's why we have a new 2.5 trillion dollar socialist entitlement program that's law.

I think you missed the point. Was Bush a hippie too? Or just a coke-fuelled drunk blowing the family money? And then a socialist? How about the GOP-run Congress for 6 years? Please pay attention and lose the one-sided ranting. The Dems and the GOP have collectively screwed us up, not just one group that you don't particularly like (or appear to know much about). Obtuse conservatism and liberalism are both bad, because neither group actually believes what they say.
 

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