Let's put this to bed, Climate Change is real

[Delta4Embassy]

The real debate isn't about whether or not climate change exists...the debate is our impact on climate change. Sleep tight.

She is right. One side believes we do, and one side believes we don't. But only one side thinks we should stop trying to find out.

Not true, one side wants the ignorant knee jerk scare tactics and lies to stop. Did you know they developed a way to extract carbon from the air better then a tree does? And the response from the green nuts? Don't build it it encourages bad behavior.

I believe there is no real evidence we contribute to the warming. And the supposed science community fails to provide proof. If as claimed CO2 is leading to higher temperatures do the experiment, prove it. And we can see the experiment repeated thus proving the point. That NO ONE in the science community will even do this one simple task proves to me they are wrong.

I repeat, since there has been no warming since 1998 , that is 15 years, yet CO2 has gone up every year, admit your theory is wrong and move on, stop adjusting temps to match your theory, stop lying about increased temperatures stop making ignorant predictions that keep proving to be wrong and quit trying to scare people into believing you.

No increase in temperatures for 15 years. No increase in frequency or strength of Hurricanes or tornadoes, nothing you predicted has come to pass. Yet you keep putting out scare the tweebs predictions that fail miserably and contribute to less and less people believing you.

"No increase in frequency or strength of Hurricanes or tornadoes..."

Seriously? Super storm Sandy and Super Typhoon Haiyan ring any bells?

Idiot.

 

[westwall]

Simple illustration of how climate change is real. The vanishing Pacific islands.

Islands Threatened By Climate Change - Business Insider

"As the climate warms, sea ice and the ice sheets in Greenland and the Antarctic continue to melt. These and other factors lead to increases in sea level and further warming of the Earth. Climate change will manifest in many many ways, including changes in weather patterns and more extreme weather events.

For some, though, rising sea levels may leave them underwater, Michael Mann said in an interview with The Guardian earlier this month."

11 examples at link of how rising sea levels from climate change and melting ice are displacing millions in the Pacific. This same process will be displacing Floridians and Louisianians soon.

Can bury your head in the sand if you wish, just be sure you don't bury it in beach sand cause you'll drown.

Yes, climate change is real. It has been occurring for at least 3 billion years and man currently can modify the weather only locally (urban heat island effect). Or, to put it another way, if the threat was so great why on Earth would the Maldives spend 500 million dollars on a new international airport?

If they were truly going under water..... I think it highly unlikely that tourists would want to travel there and please note that 25 year lease......

Don't you?

"Privatisation of the airport[edit]

In 2010, Government of Maldives appointed IFC to run the bidding process for the privatization of the airport. IFC apart from being the lead transaction advisor also ran the international bid process for the Government of Maldives. Among the bids received in the process, six bidders comprising more than ten international investors were prequalified for the transaction and a consortium of GMR Group, India & Malaysia Airports Berhad (MAHB) was one of the bidders. After the legal and technical evaluation of the bids received, financial evaluation of the bids was done.[4] Out of 3 international consortium bids including ones from Flughafen Zürich AG and Aéroports de Paris, the bid was won by the consortium between GMR Group and Malaysia Airports who provided Rufiyaa 1 Billion[10] as upfront fee to the government for the rehabilitation, expansion, modernization, operation and maintenance of the airport for 25 years.

On 28 July 2010, a public-private partnership in managing the airport was signed between the Maldivian government and officials of GMR Group and Malaysia Airports, leasing the airport to the consortium for 25 years,[11][12] with the new operator’s mission being to develop MIA into a global standard airport by the year 2014.

In September 2010, GMR-MAHB consortium registered "GMR Malé International Airport Pvt. Ltd. (GMIAL)" as the new operator of the airport.[13]

On 25 November 2010, MACL officially handed over the aerodrome license of Malé International Airport to GMIAL.[5]

MACL continued to own the Male’ International Airport and manage some of the other airports in Maldives."


Ibrahim Nasir International Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[westwall]

She is right. One side believes we do, and one side believes we don't. But only one side thinks we should stop trying to find out.

Not true, one side wants the ignorant knee jerk scare tactics and lies to stop. Did you know they developed a way to extract carbon from the air better then a tree does? And the response from the green nuts? Don't build it it encourages bad behavior.

I believe there is no real evidence we contribute to the warming. And the supposed science community fails to provide proof. If as claimed CO2 is leading to higher temperatures do the experiment, prove it. And we can see the experiment repeated thus proving the point. That NO ONE in the science community will even do this one simple task proves to me they are wrong.

I repeat, since there has been no warming since 1998 , that is 15 years, yet CO2 has gone up every year, admit your theory is wrong and move on, stop adjusting temps to match your theory, stop lying about increased temperatures stop making ignorant predictions that keep proving to be wrong and quit trying to scare people into believing you.

No increase in temperatures for 15 years. No increase in frequency or strength of Hurricanes or tornadoes, nothing you predicted has come to pass. Yet you keep putting out scare the tweebs predictions that fail miserably and contribute to less and less people believing you.

"No increase in frequency or strength of Hurricanes or tornadoes..."

Seriously? Super storm Sandy and Super Typhoon Haiyan ring any bells?

Idiot.

You need to read some better material. Yours is crap....Super Storm Sandy wasn't. She was not even a hurricane when she made landfall and it was only bad because it collided with another storm.

Likewise with Haiyan, the PI have unfortunately been battered by many typhoons that were more powerful.

The fact is that there have been FEWER major storms, hurricanes and tornado's in these last few years than ever in recorded history.

"Year # of Tornadoes
2013 771
2012 1119
2011 1894
2010 1543
2009 1305
2008 1685
2007 1102
2006 1117
2005 1262
2004 1820
2003 1374
2002 938
2001 1219
2000 1072"

11:50 AM | 2013 ? a year with minimal extreme weather events in the US « The SI Weather

 

[hjmick]

Not true, one side wants the ignorant knee jerk scare tactics and lies to stop. Did you know they developed a way to extract carbon from the air better then a tree does? And the response from the green nuts? Don't build it it encourages bad behavior.

I believe there is no real evidence we contribute to the warming. And the supposed science community fails to provide proof. If as claimed CO2 is leading to higher temperatures do the experiment, prove it. And we can see the experiment repeated thus proving the point. That NO ONE in the science community will even do this one simple task proves to me they are wrong.

I repeat, since there has been no warming since 1998 , that is 15 years, yet CO2 has gone up every year, admit your theory is wrong and move on, stop adjusting temps to match your theory, stop lying about increased temperatures stop making ignorant predictions that keep proving to be wrong and quit trying to scare people into believing you.

No increase in temperatures for 15 years. No increase in frequency or strength of Hurricanes or tornadoes, nothing you predicted has come to pass. Yet you keep putting out scare the tweebs predictions that fail miserably and contribute to less and less people believing you.

"No increase in frequency or strength of Hurricanes or tornadoes..."

Seriously? Super storm Sandy and Super Typhoon Haiyan ring any bells?

Idiot.

You need to read some better material. Yours is crap....Super Storm Sandy wasn't. She was not even a hurricane when she made landfall and it was only bad because it collided with another storm.

Likewise with Haiyan, the PI have unfortunately been battered by many typhoons that were more powerful.

The fact is that there have been FEWER major storms, hurricanes and tornado's in these last few years than ever in recorded history.

"Year # of Tornadoes
2013 771
2012 1119
2011 1894
2010 1543
2009 1305
2008 1685
2007 1102
2006 1117
2005 1262
2004 1820
2003 1374
2002 938
2001 1219
2000 1072"

11:50 AM | 2013 ? a year with minimal extreme weather events in the US « The SI Weather

Looks like we have a WINNER!





<close thread>

 

[jon_berzerk]

"No increase in frequency or strength of Hurricanes or tornadoes..."

Seriously? Super storm Sandy and Super Typhoon Haiyan ring any bells?

Idiot.

You need to read some better material. Yours is crap....Super Storm Sandy wasn't. She was not even a hurricane when she made landfall and it was only bad because it collided with another storm.

Likewise with Haiyan, the PI have unfortunately been battered by many typhoons that were more powerful.

The fact is that there have been FEWER major storms, hurricanes and tornado's in these last few years than ever in recorded history.

"Year # of Tornadoes
2013 771
2012 1119
2011 1894
2010 1543
2009 1305
2008 1685
2007 1102
2006 1117
2005 1262
2004 1820
2003 1374
2002 938
2001 1219
2000 1072"

11:50 AM | 2013 ? a year with minimal extreme weather events in the US « The SI Weather

Looks like we have a WINNER!





<close thread>

just as the global warmists predicted

in one of their hundreds of various models

--LOL

 

[Stephanie]

My gawd, does ANYONE not believe the climate is changing?

The difference is THE EARTH frikken does that all on her own

These people in the "globull warming" cult uses it as a means to take away your freedoms and suck more money out of you

You people need to wake

 

[Stephanie]

Here's how the family and now the "God" of the globull warming cult got rich



that's real care about pollution and the earth, eh?

 

[Jose1]

I just don't understand how people can continue to deny climate change at this point.

 

[flacaltenn]

Simple illustration of how climate change is real. The vanishing Pacific islands.

Islands Threatened By Climate Change - Business Insider

"As the climate warms, sea ice and the ice sheets in Greenland and the Antarctic continue to melt. These and other factors lead to increases in sea level and further warming of the Earth. Climate change will manifest in many many ways, including changes in weather patterns and more extreme weather events.

For some, though, rising sea levels may leave them underwater, Michael Mann said in an interview with The Guardian earlier this month."

11 examples at link of how rising sea levels from climate change and melting ice are displacing millions in the Pacific. This same process will be displacing Floridians and Louisianians soon.

Can bury your head in the sand if you wish, just be sure you don't bury it in beach sand cause you'll drown.

Bury YOUR head, go to bed without dinner, hold your breath til you turn blue.. I don't really care.. It's a SCIENCE issue --- not a news story..

Go find me a chart of the sea level rise that SHOWS the effect of added CO2 and how much it has raised the oceans.. FACT --- almost 1/2 of the sea rise to date is NOT more water from melting ice, but simply thermal expansion.. So if ANY Pac islands are going underwater --- they were doomed centuries BEFORE man had added his trivial amount of CO2 to the atmos..

 

[flacaltenn]

Simple illustration of how climate change is real. The vanishing Pacific islands.

Islands Threatened By Climate Change - Business Insider

"As the climate warms, sea ice and the ice sheets in Greenland and the Antarctic continue to melt. These and other factors lead to increases in sea level and further warming of the Earth. Climate change will manifest in many many ways, including changes in weather patterns and more extreme weather events.

For some, though, rising sea levels may leave them underwater, Michael Mann said in an interview with The Guardian earlier this month."

11 examples at link of how rising sea levels from climate change and melting ice are displacing millions in the Pacific. This same process will be displacing Floridians and Louisianians soon.

Can bury your head in the sand if you wish, just be sure you don't bury it in beach sand cause you'll drown.

Yes, climate change is real. It has been occurring for at least 3 billion years and man currently can modify the weather only locally (urban heat island effect). Or, to put it another way, if the threat was so great why on Earth would the Maldives spend 500 million dollars on a new international airport?

If they were truly going under water..... I think it highly unlikely that tourists would want to travel there and please note that 25 year lease......

Don't you?

"Privatisation of the airport[edit]

In 2010, Government of Maldives appointed IFC to run the bidding process for the privatization of the airport. IFC apart from being the lead transaction advisor also ran the international bid process for the Government of Maldives. Among the bids received in the process, six bidders comprising more than ten international investors were prequalified for the transaction and a consortium of GMR Group, India & Malaysia Airports Berhad (MAHB) was one of the bidders. After the legal and technical evaluation of the bids received, financial evaluation of the bids was done.[4] Out of 3 international consortium bids including ones from Flughafen Zürich AG and Aéroports de Paris, the bid was won by the consortium between GMR Group and Malaysia Airports who provided Rufiyaa 1 Billion[10] as upfront fee to the government for the rehabilitation, expansion, modernization, operation and maintenance of the airport for 25 years.

On 28 July 2010, a public-private partnership in managing the airport was signed between the Maldivian government and officials of GMR Group and Malaysia Airports, leasing the airport to the consortium for 25 years,[11][12] with the new operator’s mission being to develop MIA into a global standard airport by the year 2014.

In September 2010, GMR-MAHB consortium registered "GMR Malé International Airport Pvt. Ltd. (GMIAL)" as the new operator of the airport.[13]

On 25 November 2010, MACL officially handed over the aerodrome license of Malé International Airport to GMIAL.[5]

MACL continued to own the Male’ International Airport and manage some of the other airports in Maldives."


Ibrahim Nasir International Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Aint it OBVIOUS??? THe Govt of the Maldives just wants a redistribution check to compensate for GWarming damage ---- so they can PAY for a new Intl. Airport..

It's all about global "fairness" and redistribution..
See any of the recent "food fights" at the Intl Conferences on Climate Change.. It all ended in a beg-fest for US and European money...

 

[Politico]

No one is denying it. Nice fail though. Moving on.

 

[flacaltenn]

She is right. One side believes we do, and one side believes we don't. But only one side thinks we should stop trying to find out.

Not true, one side wants the ignorant knee jerk scare tactics and lies to stop. Did you know they developed a way to extract carbon from the air better then a tree does? And the response from the green nuts? Don't build it it encourages bad behavior.

I believe there is no real evidence we contribute to the warming. And the supposed science community fails to provide proof. If as claimed CO2 is leading to higher temperatures do the experiment, prove it. And we can see the experiment repeated thus proving the point. That NO ONE in the science community will even do this one simple task proves to me they are wrong.

I repeat, since there has been no warming since 1998 , that is 15 years, yet CO2 has gone up every year, admit your theory is wrong and move on, stop adjusting temps to match your theory, stop lying about increased temperatures stop making ignorant predictions that keep proving to be wrong and quit trying to scare people into believing you.

No increase in temperatures for 15 years. No increase in frequency or strength of Hurricanes or tornadoes, nothing you predicted has come to pass. Yet you keep putting out scare the tweebs predictions that fail miserably and contribute to less and less people believing you.

"No increase in frequency or strength of Hurricanes or tornadoes..."

Seriously? Super storm Sandy and Super Typhoon Haiyan ring any bells?

Idiot.

Here's your prob.. The Media and the Policy folks heard some rash projections from a few Global Warming zealots about what would happen when temps got to 2 or 3degC ABOVE where they are now.. They misinterpreted all that into --- "Its happening NOW".

But it's not.. A hurricane or a thunderstorm cell doesn't really care about 0.5degC warming in your lifetime.. It works off of temp. differentials, atmos. pressure differentials, and differentials in humidity.. NONE of that works off ABSOLUTE changes in temp that are the same increases at the ground as they are in the lower Troposphere..

The doom and gloom of what COULD happen --- has been transformed into a misreading of EVERY metereological event of the day.. ((See most of the current threads in the Enviro forum for instance. ))

All of that wasted effort over a 0.5degC average Global change in your lifetime..
Where I live --- the temp is almost NEVER within 0.5degC of average. It's meaningless in terms of BLAMING disasters on AGW today.

 

[chikenwing]

Historically,people and animals have done much better during warming periods in history,warmer means less hydrocarbons being burned.

 

[PredFan]

Simple illustration of how climate change is real. The vanishing Pacific islands.

Islands Threatened By Climate Change - Business Insider

"As the climate warms, sea ice and the ice sheets in Greenland and the Antarctic continue to melt. These and other factors lead to increases in sea level and further warming of the Earth. Climate change will manifest in many many ways, including changes in weather patterns and more extreme weather events.

For some, though, rising sea levels may leave them underwater, Michael Mann said in an interview with The Guardian earlier this month."

11 examples at link of how rising sea levels from climate change and melting ice are displacing millions in the Pacific. This same process will be displacing Floridians and Louisianians soon.

Can bury your head in the sand if you wish, just be sure you don't bury it in beach sand cause you'll drown.

Yes, the Climate Changes.

Fire is hot, ice is cold, it's dark at night, and Obama lies.

Thank you Captain Obvious.

 

[flacaltenn]

Uh -- The Seychelles is drowning?

or from satellite data ---- Yeah --- there's a tiny trend up there.. But probably LESS than the global average SL rise.

Furthermore, seems like these islands are manufacturing all KINDS of GW caused disasters when the evidence is
really really weak.. See their claims to payments at a Climate Conference due to drought here ------

http://www.appinsys.com/globalwarming/Seychelles.htm

Lot of begging and whining goin on.. We need to INDEPENDENTLY VERIFY all of these claims with actual studies.. NOT -- take the claims of local govt officials looking to cash in on the AGW scam...

 

[koshergrl]

Let's put this to bed, Climate Change is real

Of course it is, and the learned opinion leans strongly to the idea that man's actions can effect it for good or bad.

No, not learned opinion.

Whacked out opinion.

 

[koshergrl]

The gist of it is, the planet is dying and it's the fault of Republicans, so the world must adopt progressive/democratic policies.

That is the source and the entire purpose of the global warming scam.

 

[JamesMillman]

I find it hilarious those global warming researchers in the Artic got stuck in the ice they said was melting.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Uh -- The Seychelles is drowning?

or from satellite data ---- Yeah --- there's a tiny trend up there.. But probably LESS than the global average SL rise.

Furthermore, seems like these islands are manufacturing all KINDS of GW caused disasters when the evidence is
really really weak.. See their claims to payments at a Climate Conference due to drought here ------

Seychelles - Climate Lies

Lot of begging and whining goin on.. We need to INDEPENDENTLY VERIFY all of these claims with actual studies.. NOT -- take the claims of local govt officials looking to cash in on the AGW scam...

Hmmm, not showing "wider and wider swings with an overall warming trend" there either

 

[HenryBHough]

Careful....

The high priests of Global Warming have been reading those "How to become an ayatollah in your spare time" tracts. Won't be long and they'll be publicly stoning us infidels!