Let's go to the Electoral College Map

[presonorek]

i am thinking with mccrory and his mess....nc will go blue....hoping....so hard....

I live in North Carolina. The governor's race will influence the presidential race or vice versa. If McCrory wins then Trump takes North Carolina. If Roy Cooper wins then Hillary gets North Carolina. I think what McCrory done was irresponsible but I don't think he did it without weighing the political potential. I think McCrory is safe. I predict Trump will take North Carolina.

trump may take nc but cooper will be the next governor.....basketball is serious business in nc....i do not see how anyone can support mccrory at this point...

I don't think it will be split like that. I predict that Trump and McCrory wins. The second most likely possibility is that Clinton and Cooper wins. I'd be willing to bet 50 cents that it won't be split.

That stupid stunt that North Carolina Republicans pulled back in March was too ridiculous. It's hard for me to believe that making more gay bashing legislation wasn't carefully analyzed and calculated by McCrory's strategist. House Bill 2 was a highly controversial bill that will never be enforced. It was obviously politically motivated. It had nothing to do with governing the state.

I'll publicly say that I am wrong if Cooper wins. I just don't see it happening.

 

[presonorek]

Actually, elections ARE a game

Winner take all

I am merely reporting the score and that time is running out

Correll lives in a perfect world. Elections are a game and humans always do what benefits them personally. Poor Correll. He is still a child that loves fairy tales.

 

[presonorek]

These are my updated predictions of the questionable states AKA swing states.

North Carolina - Trump
New Hampshire -
Georgia - Trump
Utah - Trump
Arizona - Trump
Ohio - Trump
Florida - Trump
Iowa - Trump

Nevada - Clinton
Colorado - Clinton
New Mexico - Clinton
Virginia - Clinton
Pennsylvania - Clinton (I don't see why this is a swing state based upon historical data)
Michigan - Clinton
Wisconsin - Clinton
New Hampshire - Clinton

 

[presonorek]

The election is looking a lot closer than I thought.

I'm showing Hillary win 279- 259. I think that is because I have made three bold predictions.

I'm predicting Ohio, Florida and Iowa to go to Trump.

 

[rightwinger]

These are my updated predictions of the questionable states AKA swing states.

North Carolina - Trump
New Hampshire -
Georgia - Trump
Utah - Trump
Arizona - Trump
Ohio - Trump
Florida - Trump
Iowa - Trump

Nevada - Clinton
Colorado - Clinton
New Mexico - Clinton
Virginia - Clinton
Pennsylvania - Clinton (I don't see why this is a swing state based upon historical data)
Michigan - Clinton
Wisconsin - Clinton
New Hampshire - Clinton

Quite optimistic for Trump

He will not take both Florida and Ohio which means he loses

NH and Iowa are doubtful for Trump

 

[presonorek]

These are my updated predictions of the questionable states AKA swing states.

North Carolina - Trump
New Hampshire -
Georgia - Trump
Utah - Trump
Arizona - Trump
Ohio - Trump
Florida - Trump
Iowa - Trump

Nevada - Clinton
Colorado - Clinton
New Mexico - Clinton
Virginia - Clinton
Pennsylvania - Clinton (I don't see why this is a swing state based upon historical data)
Michigan - Clinton
Wisconsin - Clinton
New Hampshire - Clinton

Quite optimistic for Trump

He will not take both Florida and Ohio which means he loses

NH and Iowa are doubtful for Trump

Whoops. I meant to put New Hampshire in the Hillary column. It's too late to edit my post now.

 

[Correll]

Your panic mongering, demonizing of Trump and half the nation, and your avoidance of the issues is working.


Do you think that that half of the nation is going to forget the way they have been vilified?

Where have I demonized Trump on this thread or mongered in panic?

I am merely reporting numbers and current trends. I think I have been very fair to Mr Trump

Well played.

First you move the goal posts to try to limit the discussion to just this thread.

Then you point out the your actions, IN THIS THREAD, do not meet the first two items in my list.


Conveniently "missing" the THIRD item on my list, ie avoidance of issues.


And then you lie about what you are doing.

You are in THIS THREAD
If you have objections to my statements in other threads, take it up in THAT THREAD

This thread is not to discuss issues. It is to discuss the electoral college map

And I am challenging your premise. This election is not a game.

Real people are suffering. Real people are DYING, as I have linked to.

YOu have been gloating for over a year about the system of Complete Control that you lefties have built with the use of Identity Politics and by importing Third World voters so that some day you can completely and permanently marginalize and then oppress your enemies, ie half the American population.


You are radically transforming this nation for the worse.


Have you any concern about decreasing American life spans?

Actually, elections ARE a game

Winner take all

I am merely reporting the score and that time is running out

As I said, that is your purpose here. To present it as a game to get people thinking US vs Them.


Meanwhile many of your voters are literally being KILLED by the hardships caused by the policies your side is supporting.


As I have linked to.


I have asked you if you have any concern or thoughts about addressing the drop in American lifespans caused by economic hardship, but you have dodged and avoid my question.



Because you know that a real and honest discuss, will undermine your candidate and agenda.

 

[Correll]

Your sides CONSTANT, we are going to win, is no more substantial than a high school cheerleader's chant, and designed for the same purpose,

Not so. I predicted Obama to win in 2012 but I donated money to Mitt Romney. A prediction has no bias....

RW purpose here IS to have a "bias". This is an Act of Propaganda.


Rah, Rah, GO TEAM!!


Shouted lout enough to hopefully drown out the Truth, and to stampede the Mob into voting for the perceived winning side.


An emotional appeal, ie a form of Demagoguery.

 

[Correll]

Nationwide polls do not matter...ask President Gore
What matters is the Electoral Vote in which Hillary leads 202 to 154 in states heavily leaning blue or red
There are 182 Electoral Votes up for grabs...these votes will decide the election

As of today, Trump will have to win 116 out of the 182 available votes or 64%

Hard to do when he is trailing in most battleground states


RealClearPolitics - 2016 Election Maps - Battle for White House




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RW, I seem to have missed all the threads you've started on HIllary and her great issues and policies.

Could I have a quick link? I hate to miss meaty discussion.

We are talking about the electoral map and making predictions state by state. Want to join us in making a prediction? Which candidate do you think will take Pennsylvania? That seems to be the state that Trump supporters are watching. Which candidate do you think will take Florida?

You libs are doing everything you can to distract from the issues, (deport the illegals, bring back manufacturing jobs, and stop fucking with Russia).


Focusing on the election as though it is a game, my team vs your team is part of that.

Your sides CONSTANT, we are going to win, is no more substantial than a high school cheerleader's chant, and designed for the same purpose,

to raise the morale of your side, and to (with enough crowd support) to lower the morale of your enemies.

Meanwhile people are literally DYING from your shitty policies,


Life Expectancy for White Americans Declines


"There have been signs for years that health and socioeconomic problems might be chipping away at improvements in longevity for parts of the U.S. population."


"Life expectancy fell for the U.S. white population in 2014 and remained flat for all population groups combined, according to data released Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, "

I take it that you are not interested in discussing the possible outcomes of the electoral map? Am I right? You'd rather discuss policies?

I want to point out that this is not a game, of US vs Them, and that jumping on the bandwagon is a good way to greatly fuck up your personal, your family, your circle of friends, your nation's, interests.


Because Hillary is supporting the status quo that is literally KILLING Americans.

As I have linked to.

 

[rightwinger]

Your sides CONSTANT, we are going to win, is no more substantial than a high school cheerleader's chant, and designed for the same purpose,

Not so. I predicted Obama to win in 2012 but I donated money to Mitt Romney. A prediction has no bias....

RW purpose here IS to have a "bias". This is an Act of Propaganda.


Rah, Rah, GO TEAM!!


Shouted lout enough to hopefully drown out the Truth, and to stampede the Mob into voting for the perceived winning side.


An emotional appeal, ie a form of Demagoguery.

Show anywhere on this thread where I have been biased

When Trump came back in the polls during September, I reported it as each new poll was released

You are the one being partisan in this thread

 

[Correll]

Your sides CONSTANT, we are going to win, is no more substantial than a high school cheerleader's chant, and designed for the same purpose,

Not so. I predicted Obama to win in 2012 but I donated money to Mitt Romney. A prediction has no bias....

RW purpose here IS to have a "bias". This is an Act of Propaganda.


Rah, Rah, GO TEAM!!


Shouted lout enough to hopefully drown out the Truth, and to stampede the Mob into voting for the perceived winning side.


An emotional appeal, ie a form of Demagoguery.

Show anywhere on this thread where I have been biased

When Trump came back in the polls during September, I reported it as each new poll was released

You are the one being partisan in this thread

Reporting on Trump's ups in the polls in the context of framing the contest as a game does not challenge my point about what you are doing,


ie framing this as a game to distract from the issues and to encourage a mob effect on the voters,


Anything to avoid discussing the issues.


I started a thread on a World Trade Organization report on how the European Union has been found guilty of massive subsidies to AIRBUS to the great harm to US corporation and workers.

I included quotes from leading Europeans involved openly stating their intent to advance their economic interests by any means necessary.


That disproves both the ring wing claims that the Trade Deficit is a natural thing, or a result of Fair Competition,


AND the lefty claims that it is because Americans are stupid and lazy.


The thread is getting almost ZERO responses.


Trump was RIGHT!


Trump right on Trade

 

[rightwinger]

The purpose of this thread is to track changes in the electoral college map

It is needed because, as President Gore can explain, national polls are meaningless in a Presidential election

It is those little polls in each state that nobody ever heard about that accurately predict who is winning. The race will be decided in the battleground states. How each candidate is doing in those states will determine who wins

 

[presonorek]

The purpose of this thread is to track changes in the electoral college map

It is needed because, as President Gore can explain, national polls are meaningless in a Presidential election

It is those little polls in each state that nobody ever heard about that accurately predict who is winning. The race will be decided in the battleground states. How each candidate is doing in those states will determine who wins

He's not going to get it.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

saveliberty, post: 15462874

The Democrats killed the youth vote when Bernie lost.

Republicans killed themselves when they nominated the big celebrity entitled vagina grabber.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Trump continues to make inroads in the electoral college map

Clinton 225
Trump 154

Hillary has dropped 47 EVs in the last two weeks but Trump has not moved up from his 154. NH and Virginia move to tossup

Map has changed as the number of toss up states has increased

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Election Maps - Battle for White House

Actually 'no toss ups' tell it like it is.

This matches Nate Silver's most conservative forecast.

Polls
No Toss Up States


322 Clinton
Trump 216

270 wins it.

Trump has a very limited path to 270.

Trump is way behind Romney's numbers on white likely voters.

I don't see how he gets more whites back.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, the electoral map is going to look very interesting by next Friday.

 

[presonorek]

Well, the electoral map is going to look very interesting by next Friday.

Which states should we be watching? What happens on Friday?

 

[rightwinger]

Trump continues to make inroads in the electoral college map

Clinton 225
Trump 154

Hillary has dropped 47 EVs in the last two weeks but Trump has not moved up from his 154. NH and Virginia move to tossup

Map has changed as the number of toss up states has increased

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Election Maps - Battle for White House

Actually 'no toss ups' tell it like it is.

This matches Nate Silver's most conservative forecast.

Polls
No Toss Up States


322 Clinton
Trump 216

270 wins it.

Trump has a very limited path to 270.

Trump is way behind Romney's numbers on white likely voters.

I don't see how he gets more whites back.

That is within ten votes of Obamas margin for victory in 2012

Given Trumps recent "October surprise" we are likely to see a much larger swing towards Hillary

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Trump continues to make inroads in the electoral college map

Clinton 225
Trump 154

Hillary has dropped 47 EVs in the last two weeks but Trump has not moved up from his 154. NH and Virginia move to tossup

Map has changed as the number of toss up states has increased

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Election Maps - Battle for White House

Actually 'no toss ups' tell it like it is.

This matches Nate Silver's most conservative forecast.

Polls
No Toss Up States


322 Clinton
Trump 216

270 wins it.

Trump has a very limited path to 270.

Trump is way behind Romney's numbers on white likely voters.

I don't see how he gets more whites back.

That is within ten votes of Obamas margin for victory in 2012

Given Trumps recent "October surprise" we are likely to see a much larger swing towards Hillary

There are only 15% undecideds yet? And even if Trump were to get a 50/50 split the electoral map would not change that much. I don't see him getting 10% of undecideds specifically after his wholly disastrous Friday going into the second debate.

At a Town Hall forum Trump would have to grovel to questioners and beg for forgiveness in tears from Jesus and every single grownup voter in America. But if he did that the children that love his sexist racialist bigotry will be ill prepared to deal with a self-immolated The Donald.

Those children won't bear seeing their fairytale hero begging for forgiveness for bragging about his celebrity status entitling him to grab any vagina on a non-fat female of Trump approved beauty, that he wants.

To the Trump impish followers they either believe that the ACCESS HOLLYWOOD video is a fake or as Michelle Bachman put it that was just bad boy talk so it is just a distraction from real issues.

Or as Corey Lewandowski put it - we are not electing a Sunday School Teacher so it is ok.

Why should Trump apologize? That's a sign of weakness. Maybe the Alt Right will abandon Trump too if he shows weakness.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump continues to make inroads in the electoral college map

Clinton 225
Trump 154

Hillary has dropped 47 EVs in the last two weeks but Trump has not moved up from his 154. NH and Virginia move to tossup

Map has changed as the number of toss up states has increased

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Election Maps - Battle for White House

Actually 'no toss ups' tell it like it is.

This matches Nate Silver's most conservative forecast.

Polls
No Toss Up States


322 Clinton
Trump 216

270 wins it.

Trump has a very limited path to 270.

Trump is way behind Romney's numbers on white likely voters.

I don't see how he gets more whites back.

That is within ten votes of Obamas margin for victory in 2012

Given Trumps recent "October surprise" we are likely to see a much larger swing towards Hillary

There are only 15% undecideds yet? And even if Trump were to get a 50/50 split the electoral map would not change that much. I don't see him getting 10% of undecideds specifically after his wholly disastrous Friday going into the second debate.

At a Town Hall forum Trump would have to grovel to questioners and beg for forgiveness in tears from Jesus and every single grownup voter in America. But if he did that the children that love his sexist racialist bigotry will be ill prepared to deal with a self-immolated The Donald.

Those children won't bear seeing their fairytale hero begging for forgiveness for bragging about his celebrity status entitling him to grab any vagina on a non-fat female of Trump approved beauty, that he wants.

To the Trump impish followers they either believe that the ACCESS HOLLYWOOD video is a fake or as Michelle Bachman put it that was just bad boy talk so it is just a distraction from real issues.

Or as Corey Lewandowski put it - we are not electing a Sunday School Teacher so it is ok.

Why should Trump apologize? That's a sign of weakness. Maybe the Alt Right will abandon Trump too if he shows weakness.

The next debate will not be pretty for Trump

I thought defending his lack of paying taxes s going to be rough. But the entire debate will cover his treatment of women