polarbear said-And the radiative transfer equivalent of the above law that Roy Spencer is either too stupid to comprehend or is deliberately falsifying and "explained" it to a "Virginia" which has no science background and he managed to convince with that diminishing radiative transfer is the same as warming an object.
hahahaha!!! that it???? we didn't use your magical phrase 'diminishing radiative transfer', so we were wrong????? all the times I said it was the sun makinging the surface warmer because the surface couldnt radiate energy away as efficiently because of GHGs, and you never thought to say, "yes your concept is right but you wording could be more precise".
Spencer wrote a simple article to explain to laymen the basic ideas in heat transfer. he said that adding a second plate would increase the temperature of the heated plate which is what happens. now you are saying that he is not only wrong but a liar because your definition of warming is different than the common usage of 'warming'. would you have been OK if he had said the second plate warms the first indirectly? or does he get zero marks for omitting the phrase "diminishing radiative transfer"?
SSDD accused me of lying just so that I could be 'right'. I am only arguing the warmists' side (and only a small, narrow portion of it) because I think it is stupid to alienate normal, less than scientifically literate people by ridiculing an obvious mechanism. remember when wirebender 'proved' that blankets make you colder? you guys argue definitions and technicalities, and ignore reality. blankets make you warmer (oops, I guess I should put "diminishing radiative transfer" in there somewhere, huh?) and greenhouse gases make the surface of the earth warmer.
some of my best friends are blowhards like you. typically they know how to get things done. but you are doing a disservise to the skeptical side by saying Spencer is wrong. you could easily point out that back radiation doesnt directly heat the surface, instead it changes the conditions which indirectly cause the sun's input to warm the surface more efficiently causing a temperature rise. instead you just say Spencer is wrong and allow people to think that no warming happens even though it does (if we could separate it out from all the other factors).