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Yeah that's it. What are the poor Polar Bears to do?? All that warm ice and all. Giving billions to the UN for decades has worked wonders for the environment so far.Guess what, dingbat. I'm from Western New York and with global warming you get more wetness and wind and that's what caused this lake effect snow storm. In the last ten years or so Buffalo has gotten about the same amount of snow as Baltimore New York City and Boston which is totally different, and our winters are a hell of a lot easier than they used to be and we are becoming the Miami of the north, and don't ask for any of our water lol. We now have more wetness more heat. Less wetness where there is drought historically.... and more wetness where drought is not a problem historically. maybe if you listen to a TV station that reports the god dam news......
So you don't know if MMGW is real, but Republicans should pull their heads out of their asses AND ADDRESS IT.
Did you post what your argument is?I'm saying that partisans don't give a fuck whether its real or not. It's just a wedge to fight their idiotic proxy war.
Thousands of active, degreed scientists working this subject believe MMGW is real. That conclusion, in fact, is based on their work. That is not the case with Bigfoot or the Loch Ness monster, is it.So you don't know if MMGW is real, but Republicans should pull their heads out of their asses AND ADDRESS IT.
Makes sense.
Should Republicans also address Bigfoot? The Lock (sic) Ness Monster?
Those who accept mainstream science and have children DO give a fuck whether its real or not.I'm saying that partisans don't give a fuck whether its real or not. It's just a wedge to fight their idiotic proxy war.
Thousands and thousands say it isn’tThousands of active, degreed scientists working this subject believe MMGW is real. That conclusion, in fact, is based on their work. That is not the case with Bigfoot or the Loch Ness monster, is it.
And where are the scientists peer reviewed studies saying so? You'll have trouble here establishing equivalence and there's a good reason for that. The scientific method is extremely resistant to spreading falsehoods. That is its primary function. But you, obviously, don't care about science. It just gets in your way, doesn't it.Thousands and thousands say it isn’t
1995 to Present: Climate Model Failure
Source: CEI.org
2000: ‘Children won’t know what snow is.’
Source: The Independent, March 20, 2000
2002: Famine in 10 years
Source: The Guardian, December 23, 2002
2004: Britain to have Siberian climate by 2020
Source: The Guardian, February 21, 2004
2008: Arctic will be ice-free by 2018
Source: Associated Press, June 24, 2008
2008: Al Gore warns of ice-free Arctic by 2013
But… it’s still there:
Source: WattsUpWithThat.com, December 16, 2018
2009: Prince Charles says only 8 years to save the planet
Source: The Independent, July 9, 2009
2009: UK prime minister says 50 days to ‘save the planet from catastrophe’
Source: The Independent: October 20, 2009
2009: Arctic ice-free by 2014
Source: USA Today, December 14, 2009
2013: Arctic ice-free by 2015
Source: The Guardian, July 24, 2013
The paper: Gas hydrate dissociation off Svalbard induced by isostatic rebound rather than global warming - Nature Communications (open access)
Gas hydrate dissociation off Svalbard induced by isostatic rebound rather than global warming
Abstract
Methane seepage from the upper continental slopes of Western Svalbard has previously been attributed to gas hydrate dissociation induced by anthropogenic warming of ambient bottom waters. Here we show that sediment cores drilled off Prins Karls Foreland contain freshwater from dissociating hydrates. However, our modeling indicates that the observed pore water freshening began around 8 ka BP when the rate of isostatic uplift outpaced eustatic sea-level rise. The resultant local shallowing and lowering of hydrostatic pressure forced gas hydrate dissociation and dissolved chloride depletions consistent with our geochemical analysis. Hence, we propose that hydrate dissociation was triggered by postglacial isostatic rebound rather than anthropogenic warming. Furthermore, we show that methane fluxes from dissociating hydrates were considerably smaller than present methane seepage rates implying that gas hydrates were not a major source of methane to the oceans, but rather acted as a dynamic seal, regulating methane release from deep geological reservoirs.
2013: Arctic ice-free by 2016
Source: The Guardian, December 9, 2013
Did you see the first 4 posts in this thread, Simp?Thousands of active, degreed scientists working this subject believe MMGW is real. That conclusion, in fact, is based on their work. That is not the case with Bigfoot or the Loch Ness monster, is it.
50 years of missed predictions and that's how you try and explain it away? Stupid is actually BELIEVING that politicians and governments can control the climate in any shape or form the same way that a person controls the temperature of their house with a thermostat.
Far more evidence for Bigfoot and Loch Ness than changing the climate with CO2Thousands of active, degreed scientists working this subject believe MMGW is real. That conclusion, in fact, is based on their work. That is not the case with Bigfoot or the Loch Ness monster, is it.
Why, did they make you look stupid too?Did you see the first 4 posts in this thread, Simp?
So, thousands and thousands of scientists from every country on the planet have unanimously chosen to join a conspiracy to push a fabrication over on the people of the world that will cost trillions of dollars and waste millions of man-years of labor so that they can get research grants. This will require perfect coordination so that their data do not contradict each other. And not one single scientist has ever confessed to this conspiracy or failed to produce appropriate study results or even accidentally produced ANY real evidence that such a conspiracy actually exists.Nope. They documented just how stupid you MMGW Cultist lemmings are.
you never established that the studies reviewed, proved that the scientists who wrote said studies believed that climate change is a danger or that it is being driven by manAnd where are the scientists peer reviewed studies saying so? You'll have trouble here establishing equivalence and there's a good reason for that. The scientific method is extremely resistant to spreading falsehoods. That is its primary function. But you, obviously, don't care about science. It just gets in your way, doesn't it.
Enjoy the aftermath because it's too late to fix things now.THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT THE CLIMATE. IT IS ABOUT THE BIGGEST POLITICAL SCAM IN HISTORY.
In short, our liberal politicians in the US and around the world are running the biggest scam in history in order to bankrupt the US and transfer wealth to "developing" countries like China.
That's right, the biggest polluter on the planet by far, China, qualifies for the latest handout Biden announced this week. Please tell me the science behind that.
Please look at the MMGW Cult track record:
4 Catastrophic Climate Predictions That Never Came True
Current climate predictions can be terrifying if you don't know about the previous dire climate claims that amounted to nothing.
If you’re under 50, there’s a good chance you’re expecting to see climate change create chaos and death in your lifetime. Scientists and pundits seem so certain we’re headed for global collapse and their predictions can be terrifying—especially if you’re young enough not to remember the last dozen times they predicted imminent collapse and were wrong. In each case, claims of impending environmental disaster were backed by allegedly irrefutable data and policymakers were encouraged to act before it was too late.
Global Cooling
The Prediction: Top climate specialists and environmental activists predicted that “global cooling trends” observed between WWII and 1970 would result in a world “eleven degrees colder in the year 2000 ... about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.” Bitter winters and floods from “delayed typhoons” would trigger massive drops in food production, followed by widespread famine.
The Prophecies:
What Actually Happened: Global cooling trends didn’t continue unabated, and temperatures stabilized. Within a few years, the same alarmists were predicting a life-threatening rise in temperatures, presaging many of the same dire effects on plant and animal life. Those new predictions were continually revised as their “near certainty” collided with the truth year after year, but prophets seem unchastened by their abysmal historical accuracy. Newsweek issued a correction to the 1975 article in 2006.
- Newsweek Magazine’s "The Cooling World" Peter Gwynne April 28, 1975
- Time Magazine’s “A New Ice Age?” April 28, 1974
- BBC’s Nigel Calder International Wildlife magazine, 1975
- Betty Friedan in Harper’s magazine, 1958
- University of California at Davis professor Kenneth Watt, Earth Day 1974
The Great Die-Off
The Prediction: More women having babies in the developing world was expected to exceed the “carrying capacity” of the earth, experts were certain. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supply we make,” Ehrlich said. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years [1970-1980].” Ehrlich predicted that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.” This would lead to “an utter breakdown of the capacity of the planet to support humanity.”
The Prophecies:
- Paul Erlich, The Progressive, Earth Day 1970
- The Population Bomb, 1968 Bestseller
What Actually Happened: Motivated by the urgent call for population control and fears of famine, India and China performed millions of forced abortions and sterilizations. But the number of people at risk of starvation dropped from 25 percent to 10 percent globally as genetically modified seeds and advances in irrigation improved crop yields. Far from the Great Die-Off, the global population nearly doubled while agricultural capacity soared and rates of starvation plummeted. Ehrlich’s star has continued to rise, though his signature predictions were nonsense, and now holds an endowed chair in Population Studies at Stanford. The millions scapegoated by his fear-mongering have not fared as well.
Pollution Particle Clouds
The Prediction: Ecologists and environmentalists claimed that the buildup of nitrogen, dust, fumes, and other forms of pollution would make the air unbreathable by the mid-1980s. They predicted all urban dwellers would have to don gas masks to survive, that particle clouds would block the majority of sunlight from reaching earth, and that farm yields would drop as dust blotted out the sun.
The Prophecies:
What Actually Happened: When these doomsayers were pronouncing the imminent death of our atmosphere, the rate of air pollution had already been falling for most of the world, usually in the absence of dedicated policy changes. Developments like air filtration, as well as an overall decline in household pollutants (like the smoke from cooking with coal or wood) greatly reduced the health risks of the particles that remained. Increased adoption of fossil fuels and electricity grids, rather than traditional stoves, accelerated the improvements.
- Ecologist Kenneth Watt
- Life Magazine, 1970
- Newsweek Magazine, 1970
- Science News, C.C. Wallen of the World Meteorological Organization, 1975
75 Percent of Species Will Go Extinct
The Prediction: Alleged experts in biology and zoology predicted that of all species of animals alive in 1970, at least 75 percent would be extinct by 1995. They blamed human activities like hunting and farming for shrinking wild habitats and cited pollution and climate change as key drivers of the new extinctions. Paul Ehrlich claimed “[By 1985] all important animal life in the sea will be extinct."
The Prophecies:
- Sen. Gaylord Nelson, Look Magazine
- Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute
- The Sinking Ark 1979, Oxford biologist Norman Myers
What Actually Happened: You may have noticed that earth has not lost three-quarters of its 8.7 million species, and indeed total biomass continues to grow. 99 percent of all species that have ever existed are already extinct, and natural rates of extinction predict we might lose anywhere from 200 to 2,000 species per year without any human intervention. Since 2000, we’ve identified fewer than 20.
The language surrounding these various environmental disasters sounds much like Wednesday night’s town hall, and yet each thesis has faded from public consciousness, and the fear-mongers faced no accountability for their misplaced alarmism. Before we make unprecedented sacrifices to fight a climate phantom, let’s review the credibility of claims that the end is near—but really, this time.
4 Catastrophic Climate Predictions That Never Came True
The language surrounding these various environmental disasters sounds much like Wednesday night’s town hall, and yet each thesis has faded from public consciousness, and the fear-mongers faced no accountability for their misplaced alarmism.fee.org
Now for a prediction that will come true, leftists will come into this thread whining and crying about the source without being able to refute any of the facts contained in this OP.
More to come........
when I stated the cost was trillions, you claimed I was wrong and that you do not know the cost. Amazing, now you admit it will cost trillions.So, thousands and thousands of scientists from every country on the planet have unanimously chosen to join a conspiracy to push a fabrication over on the people of the world that will cost trillions of dollars and waste millions of man-years of labor so that they can get research grants. This will require perfect coordination so that their data do not contradict each other. And not one single scientist has ever confessed to this conspiracy or failed to produce appropriate study results or even accidentally produced ANY real evidence that such a conspiracy actually exists.
My GOD are you stupid.
So, you think you're Nostra's equal? I'll let you have that.when I stated the cost was trillions, you claimed I was wrong and that you do not know the cost. Amazing, now you admit it will cost trillions.
Stupidity is claiming that building giant wind turbines, covering square miles of earth with millions of solar panels, that are extremely inefficient is the solution.
Stupidity is denying the there is a Renewable Heavy Industry that is polluting the earth, at a rate greater than when said industry did not exist.
where is your study about the scientists?So, you think you're Nostra's equal? I'll let you have that.
